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| devfaz | good morning, we have a quite strange problem with neutron-port-bindings. There are some instance-ports which tend to flap between two nodes. Looks like it may be caused by an action which creates an "profile:{original_owner:XXXX}" entry in ml2-mapping. Any ideas which action this may do? | 07:04 |
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| gameon | cz2: Hi are you there? I lost connection the other day. Do I remember you were looking to hide external networks? | 08:51 |
| gameon | Hi all - I have a question which I'm struggling to find any info on. I have a Kilo deployment, and have a provider network which is set as external. This network is NOT visible from within tenant projects. However, using a new Pike deplyoment, the provider network IS visible (and deleteable even!!) from tenant projects. Has anyone got a solution to this? RBAC didn't seem to do anything, as soon as I set the network to external, it's | 08:52 |
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| lvdombrkr | hello folks, someone have tried install compute node somewhere on different site and add it to controller as avaibility zone in-house? | 09:37 |
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| gameon | cz2: I may have a solution to hiding the external network from tenants - edit policy.json on the neutron nodes, and find 'get_network' and remove remove 'rule:external' | 10:24 |
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| gameon | cz2: Restart all neutron services, and you'll find it's hidden from a tenant | 10:25 |
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| devfaz | Hi, is here someone able to explain me the "original_owner"-profile in ml_ports_mapping of neutron? Esp. who is setting/using this profile? | 13:03 |
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| tom221 | hello | 13:40 |
| tom221 | hello everybody | 13:40 |
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| cz2 | gameon: ah, I didn't look into policy.json indeed | 15:51 |
| cz2 | gameon: my goal was to actually have a provider network which would be visible as external to tenants I would grant access to | 15:52 |
| cz2 | and that did work, but I couldn't spawn routers in such network | 15:52 |
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| gameon | cz2: How did you achieve that? I had to revert my change in policy.json - as it stands I can't see a way of actually 'hiding' the external network whilst having an interface on a project network on that external network... | 16:18 |
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| cz2 | gameon: neutron rbac-create --type network --target-tenant <customer_tenant_id> --action access_as_external <network> | 16:28 |
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| cz2 | gameon: if you want to hide the provider network and then share it to specific tenants, set the router:external to False | 16:29 |
| cz2 | (neutron net-update <network> --router:external False) | 16:29 |
| cz2 | and then do the rbac-create thing | 16:29 |
| gameon | cz2: If I set the router:external to false then I can't use it as a provider network, even with rbac. As soon as I create the rbac policy the provider network is then visible in the project network list... | 16:30 |
| gameon | Effectively as soon as I set it to be 'external' either via RBAC or the router:external property, it's visible in the project which isn't really what I want. Kilo doesn't exhibit this behavior oddly.. | 16:33 |
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| cz2 | Uh, sorry, I got lost a bit | 16:35 |
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| cz2 | Can you repeat the problem again? Your message from 09:52:33 is incomplete in my client | 16:36 |
| cz2 | it ends on >as soon as I set the network to external, it's | 16:36 |
| gameon | I wasn't very clear either, let me try again. Effectively as soon as I set it to be 'external' either via RBAC or the router:external property, it's visible in the project which isn't really what I want. Kilo doesn't exhibit this behavior oddly.. | 16:38 |
| gameon | cz2: What I want to achieve is to have a project's router with an interface on the ext-net, allowing for creation of floating IPs - but 'hiding' the ext-net... | 16:38 |
| cz2 | ah, I think I get it now | 16:39 |
| cz2 | I think that one of our older deployments has such setup, sec | 16:40 |
| cz2 | let me check | 16:40 |
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| gameon | cz2: Many thanks - I have tried and tried but no luck. I'm not *that* bothered about being able to see the network, but tenants can actually delete the ext-net which is not good. I have stopped this by setting admin only to delete_network:router_external in policy.json but I'd rather it was hidden... | 16:41 |
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| cz2 | gameon: first of all, try comparing your neutron policy.json with this https://pastebin.com/DPHnxtw2 | 16:45 |
| Over23 | cz2: LINK TITLE: "create_network": "", "get_network": "rule:admin_or_owner or rule:share - Pastebin.com | 16:45 |
| cz2 | I'll dig deeper | 16:45 |
| gameon | cz2: superb, thank you | 16:45 |
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| cz2 | heh, this is Icehouse so there's no rbac | 16:50 |
| gameon | :D - my policy.json is identical AFAICT, I'm using the default one apart from my addition of "delete_network:router:external": "rule:admin_only", | 16:50 |
| gameon | My Kilo deployment exhibits the same behavior - the ext_net is hidden. As soon as I set the external flag it appears in every tenant's project network pane in Horizon (and by extension via the CLI...) | 16:51 |
| cz2 | gameon: on that icehouse deployment of mine, behavior is as follows: tenant does not see any networks apart from their own, though they have access to a floating ip pool | 16:52 |
| cz2 | which is actually created on such external network that is not visible by tenant | 16:53 |
| gameon | cz2: The same behavior as my Kilo deployment... which is really what I'd like for the Pike deployment I've just created, but I can't find a way of achieving it easily... | 16:53 |
| cz2 | ...what if we are looking in wrong place | 16:54 |
| cz2 | sec | 16:54 |
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| cz2 | nah, doesn't make any sense. that provider network is marked as router:external=True, but it isn't visible in tenants networks. | 16:58 |
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| gameon | cz2: It's weird, I'm not sure if it's a bug or not really or even when it changed... | 16:59 |
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| gameon | short of getting a devstack of each major it might be tricky to find out if it's intentional or when it was introduced... | 16:59 |
| gameon | I'm away for a few days now, but I'll take a look the week of the 20th Feb to try and figure it out | 16:59 |
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| gameon | cz2: Thanks for your time, much appreciated | 17:00 |
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| cz2 | you're welcome. can't find out how they hid the provider network in that deployment | 17:02 |
| cz2 | (I'm basically playing archaelogist in here) | 17:02 |
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| gameon | cz2: Hopefully I'l find out and let you know soon :) | 17:11 |
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| OutBackDingo | is there a production quality installer for single nic single server | 19:11 |
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| larsks | OutBackDingo: I don't think so. Mostly because a single-nic-single-server deployment isn't going to meet the definition of "production quality" for most people. | 19:56 |
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| larsks | I mean, "packstack" might get you there, but it's meant to proof-of-concept deployments. | 19:56 |
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| larsks | I don't know what the minimum requirements are for openstack-ansible, but maybe worth checking it out. | 19:57 |
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| OutBackDingo | larsks: thanks, im the only one using it... not really for prod but to run images and containers | 20:00 |
| OutBackDingo | i looked at triton SDC but required multiple nics | 20:00 |
| OutBackDingo | i just need to spin up kubernetes and be able to launch a few vms | 20:00 |
| larsks | Are you sure you want openstack for that? | 20:00 |
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| larsks | I mean, why not just run kubernetes (or docker swarm) on the bare metal host? | 20:01 |
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| OutBackDingo | because i need vms also | 20:01 |
| larsks | Okay. | 20:01 |
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| larsks | Have you seen kubevirt? https://github.com/kubevirt/kubevirt | 20:01 |
| Over23 | larsks: LINK TITLE: GitHub - kubevirt/kubevirt: A virtualization API and runtime add-on for Kubernetes in order to define and manage virtual machines. | 20:01 |
| larsks | I've never used it... | 20:01 |
| OutBackDingo | ive loooked at the few kubernetes vm instalces also | 20:02 |
| larsks | ...but it looks interesting. | 20:02 |
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| OutBackDingo | heck ive even looked at the running openstack inside containers | 20:07 |
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| SamYaple | OutBackDingo: many projects around that. Kolla has ansible and kubenretes deploy variants (though the ansible is the only "production" one). OpenStack-Ansbile deploys in "machine" containers (the containers run systemd in LXC containers and have ssh). and LOCI is a container image building project for openstack projects (no associated deploy tools) | 20:56 |
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| SamYaple | openstack-helm can use kolla and loci containers to deploy on kubernetes | 20:57 |
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