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| herekun | hi for all? can anyone to help me with my storage? | 05:13 |
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| blkart | herekun, cinder problem ? | 05:21 |
| herekun | blkart: help me, please. I have home storage with my gay & furry porn, and I want to have best perfomance on it. now I use 4 3Par's with totaly 200Tb of space. I use ocfs2 and FC fabric to connect my home computers to it. | 05:23 |
| herekun | I use thunderblot to PCI-e adapted w | 05:23 |
| herekun | ith fibrechannel card to delivery my gay porn to my macbook pro. I use SAN on FC on Silkworms 200E as SAN-core; But now I think, that I need to move to Ceph on ZFS to best mobility and my integrity. I want to use "proxy" servers with FC connection to SAN and ethernet and infiniband connection to my LAN. | 05:23 |
| herekun | I think, that I can migrate my gay & furry porn to new FS over restore from tape LTO-6 backup. but it is a lot of work to do it. on my place what did you with your's gay furry porn storages? migrate from cluster FS to distributed FS or not | 05:23 |
| herekun | ? | 05:23 |
| blkart | herekun, sorry, i'm not focus on storage, maybe you can join #openstack-cinder channel to get more help | 05:26 |
| herekun | blkart: oh, big thanks, bro! | 05:27 |
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| avi_ | Getting this error when delete instance http://paste.openstack.org/show/688509/ | 11:04 |
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| avi_ | log stop when i restart the linuxbridge | 11:15 |
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| larsks | CHICO12: "nova security groups" aren't really a thing anymore. In the past, both Neutron and Nova implemented the network API and you could just one or the other, but these days everythign uses Neutron. | 12:09 |
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| umbSublime | vishwana_: did you put a shabang on line one. If not that file will be passed directly to cloud-init. You can check cloud-init logs after to see if it ran the script. Also you might have to change the sshd config so it enables password logins as well | 12:59 |
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| CHICO1234 | larsks: So, to confirm, the security groups are being requested through Neutron API, while it's only being requested as a parameter while Nova is requested a new instance just line nics and networks. | 13:34 |
| CHICO1234 | ? | 13:34 |
| larsks | CHICO1234: right. | 13:34 |
| CHICO1234 | Perfect, so where will be the actual enforcement? | 13:34 |
| CHICO1234 | on the VM tap interface? | 13:35 |
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| larsks | CHICO1234: they are implemented as iptables rules on your compute host. | 13:36 |
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| CHICO1234 | so it's stateful not stateless . . right? | 13:36 |
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| larsks | CHICO1234: there are stateful rules to short-circuit checks for established sessions. Take a look at the output of 'iptables -S'; look for chains named neutron-openvswi-i* and neutron-openvswi-o*. | 13:38 |
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| CHICO1234 | larsks: Ok, but what is the case if I'm going to use an SDN solution like Contrail with vrouter, are there any changes? | 13:39 |
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| CHICO1234 | larsks: I assume there shall be no change since it's being applied to the tap interface which is there even with vrouter | 13:39 |
| CHICO1234 | larsks: right? | 13:39 |
| larsks | CHICO1234: probably! The implementation details I just mentioned are particular to the neutron openvswitch mechanism. I imagine contrail looks different. | 13:39 |
| larsks | But I don't know for sure! | 13:40 |
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| larsks | I haven't used contrail. | 13:40 |
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| larsks | I mean, look at your iptables rules and see if you have chains matching the naming pattern I just mentioned. That would be a good test to see if things are the same or different. | 13:40 |
| CHICO1234 | larsks: perfect | 13:41 |
| CHICO1234 | larsks: for the case with OVS, are there any security filtering that could be applied on the OVS itself? | 13:41 |
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| larsks | CHICO1234: i'm not sure exactly what you're asking there... | 13:41 |
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| larsks | It is certainly *possible* to implement some restrictions via OVS flow rules. | 13:42 |
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| CHICO1234 | larsks: you mean through the openflow protocol flows? | 13:43 |
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| larsks | CHICO1234: I'm not sure if I mean that or not. Specifically, I mean through the use of "ovs-ofctl", for example. | 13:44 |
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| larsks | (e.g., as you see when running "ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-tun" when using the neutron OVS agent) | 13:45 |
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| CHICO1234 | larsks: ok | 13:46 |
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| vishwana_ | umbSublime thanks for the response | 15:34 |
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| RossSchulman[m] | I'm having trouble installing nova on ubuntu 16.04. When I try to call `nova-manage cell_v2 map_cell0` I get sqlalchemy/api.py erroring and saying `unexpected keyword argument 'retry_on_request'`. | 15:51 |
| RossSchulman[m] | That looks like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1741001 | 15:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1741001 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Got an unexpected keyword argument when starting nova-api" [Undecided,Invalid] | 15:51 |
| RossSchulman[m] | But as far as I can tell, I have the correct versions installed. | 15:51 |
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| RossSchulman[m] | (disregard, I figured out the issue) | 17:21 |
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| cbt | hello guys. Im trying to migrate vmdk files from VMware to Openstack KVM. I tried using virt-v2v, qemu-img, and everything that I can think of but the qcow2 file generated always fails to boot. | 18:35 |
| cbt | if I use ephemeral storage the OS boot works fine | 18:35 |
| cbt | however if I convert that qcow image to a volume it fails | 18:35 |
| cbt | the OS is windows | 18:35 |
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| cbt | do you have any ideas as to what is going on? | 18:36 |
| cbt | why could this be happening? | 18:36 |
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| grabes | So, I have a question as I am trying to consume going from bare mental to a private cloud. Are there serious performance ramifications if I am using Postgresql to a cloud based option? Is my DB instance spread across multiple metal chasis? | 21:50 |
| grabes | hah, bare mental is where I am now. | 21:51 |
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| neotic | cloud based doesn't automatically mean X performance. choose vendor/solution based on requirements | 21:54 |
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| larsks | grabes: your postgresql database isn't going to be spread across multiple anything unless you explicitly set up some sort of clustering/replication. If you are in fact running multiple postgresql instances, then sure, they could actually be running on separate baremetal hosts. | 22:09 |
| larsks | There are scheduling hints that will let you enforce that if necessary. | 22:10 |
| grabes | larsks: So in reality openstacks is merely a management tool for hypervisors across many hosts? I am guessing comparable to vSphere in a sense? I am just not 100% getting the differnce as I have used Xen before, and I am trying to stop worrying about a metal problem which is happening more often | 22:11 |
| larsks | grabes: openstack is a resource scheduler for infrastructure resources. Not just hypervisors, but storage, networks, and more. | 22:12 |
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| grabes | so if you dont care about resource scheduling (as its all our services) is openstacks the way to go, or should I just roll a hypervisor solution. | 22:15 |
| larsks | I don't think I can answer that question for you. If just running a standard hypervisor, like Xen or libvirt or whatever, meets your needs, then it will probably be simpler to maintain. | 22:15 |
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| grabes | larsks: so will fuel/openstacks give me a xen hypervisor solution managed via openstacks gui? | 22:17 |
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| grabes | I am sure these sound like idiotic questions, but I have to be honest I am an old BSD head trying to make my life better as I manage a bunch of metal boxes, and I feel like I am missing out on something to make my life better should a node fail | 22:19 |
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| larsks | grabes: I...guess? I believe that Xen is a supported hypervisor, although I've only worked with libvirt. | 22:21 |
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| larsks | I will say that if it's *just* you -- that is, if you're not interested in multi-tenancy and self-service for a population of people other than yourself -- then probably openstack is going to be overkill. | 22:22 |
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| grabes | larsks: is there an ISO that installs that gives you a openstack instance similiar almost to a esxi instance? Well, that brings an intesting question as we recently had to overcommit on bandwidth and I am wondering if we could possibly offer customers virtual servers to utilize some of our over bult infrastructure. | 22:24 |
| larsks | grabes: openstack is a distributed system; "an openstack instance" typically encompasses multiple servers, some acting as controllers, some acting as compute resources, and possibly some dedicated to storage or networking (although often all rolled into the "controller" role). | 22:25 |
| grabes | larsks: thanks, so if its a great multi-tenant environment for resource sharing? | 22:27 |
| larsks | grabes: I am having trouble parsing that sentence. | 22:28 |
| larsks | grabes: the install guide (https://docs.openstack.org/install-guide/index.html) has some overview material that talks about the architecture and concepts. https://docs.openstack.org/install-guide/index.html | 22:29 |
| larsks | (specifically, the "Get started with OpenStack" and "Overview" sections) | 22:29 |
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| grabes | larsks: so if I can pry, how do you utilize openstacks? | 22:30 |
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| larsks | grabes: I'm a developer at Red Hat, although in a previous life I was a sysadmin at a university where we used OpenStack to provide self-service virtual machines and storage to grad students and faculty. | 22:30 |
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| grabes | larsks: so you chose openstacks over say a single management environment (xen/libvirt) more for the multi-tenancy aspect? | 22:31 |
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| larsks | Right. We wanted to provide our community with the ability to deploy their own compute and storage resources without needing to involve IT in every request. | 22:32 |
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| larsks | Speaking of self service, I need to go start work on dinner. | 22:33 |
| larsks | I'll be around later if you have more questions. | 22:34 |
| grabes | larsks: thanks, I think I have a better understnading | 22:34 |
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| hohum | hi | 23:00 |
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| hohum | I'm reading the openstack install guide and I have a question. Does etcd get installed on all nodes or just the controller? | 23:01 |
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| marst | hohum: Hi. What guide are you following? | 23:02 |
| hohum | https://docs.openstack.org/install-guide/environment-etcd-rdo.html | 23:02 |
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| hohum | that one | 23:02 |
| marst | hohum: in that setup it's just controller. | 23:03 |
| hohum | ty | 23:03 |
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