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jadajadaHi, anyone experienced with setting permissions in Horizon panels?10:10
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morsikHi, it's possible somehow to have SNAT on external network when using BGP Speaker?11:24
morsikWe configured BGP Speaker which needed same Address Scope between internal and external network, but such configuration disabled external SNAT which is not desired...11:25
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yourselfnamehello...11:45
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hegemoOngood morning11:47
hegemoOnis there way to get history of vm running on a compute ?11:47
hegemoOnmy issue is that i have a compute powered off, and i was sure at least one vm was running on it two weeks ago.11:48
hegemoOni would like to know which one11:48
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fricklermorsik: can you explain your use case for that? why do you want BGP for networks that are NATted?12:04
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avtar_hegemoOn you can check nova database for the information.12:59
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jadajadaHi, can someone give me a simple explanation how role based authentication should work within Horizon? I can't make sense out of it. I have devstack running, to keep it as simple as possible. I have set "openstack.roles.admin" in a panel. My admin user has the right privileges, and I still get a "permission denied" error. Am I missing something?13:45
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ejathi, i tried to resize the instance but the storage doesnt change to the new resize flavor15:26
ejatwhere should i troubleshoot?15:26
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SamYapleejat: which storage? cinder volume? root disk?15:31
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ejatSamYaple: volume attached15:33
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ejatroot disk15:33
ejatand ephemeral disk15:34
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ejatonly vcpu n vram change15:34
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SamYapleejat: are you sure the sizehasnt changed? it wont auto resize the disks for you15:35
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ejateven choose automatically ?15:37
ejatso need manually resize/lvm inside instances15:38
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ejatbut at the volume tab its still show the size of 1st instance launched15:39
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SamYaplethe *cinder* volume doesnt resize basedon nova flavors15:39
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SamYaplenova only controls root/swap/ephemeral disks (and vcpu and ram)15:40
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ejatSamYaple: ok .. just notice the size of root & ephemeral in hypervisor changed based on the nova flavors15:43
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SamYaplesounds like thats all working appropriately then15:44
SamYaplei *think* if you have an xfs parition it my auto resize for you, but thats a cloud-init implementation detail15:45
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ejatSamYaple: how to configure nova-compute to use ceph instead of local disk ?16:01
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ejatconfigure in nova.conf , images_type = rbd ?16:05
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SamYapleejat: https://github.com/SamYaple/home-salt/blob/master/salt/files/openstack/nova/nova.conf.j2#L44-L4916:07
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* ejat build using juju16:12
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ejatSamYaple: i have xfs partition , i changed the nova to use rbd .. the nova root/ephemeral not auto resize16:38
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SamYaplei guess cloud-init (which runs in your instance....) isnt doing it16:39
SamYaplebut it is a problem that needs to be solved inside your instance16:39
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yglhi all16:44
ygli want to launch a vm with a dummy nic interface without an IP assigned to it . can someone help me how to do it please16:44
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yglcan anyone help me please16:49
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yglcan someone help me please16:54
ygli want to launch a vm with a dummy nic interface without an IP assigned to it . can someone help me how to do it please16:54
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arbainduAre there any recommendations for setting the max_pool_size and max_overflow settings? Supposing our mysql DB is configured to allow many more open connections and won't be an issue, is there any *downside* to doubling or tripling the default values?18:53
arbainduSpecifically for neutron, say to 30 max_pool_size and 100 for max_overflow. We are currently at 10/5018:53
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SamYaplearbaindu: downside is more memory/resource usage. you can safely bump the numbners up to 10,000 without much worry18:54
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SamYapleif you have a decent bit of ram (not a 8gb box)18:55
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SamYaplehowever, do remember mysql has a max connection limit too18:55
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arbainduyea, we are only at about 50% of mysql limit currently18:55
arbainduso lot of headroom18:55
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SamYaplesure. you can safely increase that number alot18:55
arbainduit is a 36 core controller. running 8 api workers and 4 rpc workers currently18:56
SamYaplethe default value isnt reasonable in my opinion, but its the default what can you do18:56
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SamYaplewe set the max_pool_size to 100 and overflow to 500 on a ~500 node cluster without much issue18:57
SamYaplewe dont have as many api workers though18:57
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marstSamYaple: May I ask how many compute nodes do you have?19:02
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arbainduSamYaple: i'm curious as well. specifically how many rpc_workers are you using for such a setup (per controller plus in total as well, if using multiple controller)19:04
SamYaple3 controllers, decently size (dont have the specs in front of me)19:04
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SamYaplei only have one rpc_worker running per controller per service, so 3 in total19:05
SamYaplewe had more at one point but we ran into bugs with tls19:05
SamYaplewe dont seem to be bottlenecking on the workers since we moved to ocata19:06
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SamYaplewe did switch to full wsgi based api deploy which helped alot19:07
arbainduOur main bottlenecks always seem to be RPC layer related19:07
SamYaplehelped the load on the rpc thread i mean19:07
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arbaindutimeouts, and now after bumping rpc_workers and pushing scale further, queuepool limits19:07
arbainduhowever we are still only using Newton19:07
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SamYaplewe just pushed from mitaka to ocata19:08
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SamYaplewe are still ironing out the edges, but switching to the wsgi has helped alot19:08
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arbainduSamYaple: "full wsgi based api deploy" - can you elaborate?19:11
arbainduas opposed to what prior?19:11
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arbainduDoes not neutron already use this? for example, "neutron.wsgi [-] (7782) wsgi starting up on http://0.0.0.0:9696"19:12
SamYaplearbaindu: we deploy nginx+uwsgi (nginx talks to uwsgi over a socket)19:12
SamYaplethis is different than the eventlet based deploy we had in mitaka19:12
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SamYaplebecause (in ocata) the nova-api and neutron-api are not fully split out, we do run a copy of nova-api and neutron-server that is eventlet based so it spawns the rpc workers properly19:13
SamYaplebut haproxy does not loadbalance to them, we have a nova and neutron nginx+uwsgi running that haproxy loadbalances to19:14
SamYaplethere is a neutron-rpc-worker in later versions of openstack, but there are some outstanding bugs with it19:14
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SamYaplethe line you are pasting is eventlet spawning the wsgi server which is not quite... good19:15
SamYapleeventlet is really bad at tls in my experince19:15
SamYaplewe do internal tls for everything19:15
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arbainduSamYaple: Ah thanks. wasnt aware that was even a possibility. cant find any documentation about neutron supporting it. is there any guide for setting it up this way?20:23
SamYaplenot specifically. most deploymenttools havent figured it all out yet20:25
SamYaplebut hold on20:25
arbainduhttps://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html20:25
arbainduseems to indicate its only supports in some projects , which doesnt include neutron?20:25
SamYaplethis has all my configs that im running at home (sorry, cant link the work stuff) https://github.com/SamYaple/home-salt/tree/master/salt/files/openstack20:25
SamYaplesupport is fine with the exception of the rpc issue, which i gave a workaround for20:26
gauravak[m]Hi all!!20:26
gauravak[m]Very recently, I deployed OPNFV XCI installer with opendtack integrated with ODL SFC20:26
gauravak[m]However therr are some porblems I am facing20:26
gauravak[m]Can i get some help?20:26
SamYaplegauravak[m]: im not actually familiar with that effort. what specific issue are you facing?20:28
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gauravak[m]i am able to login into my instance20:29
gauravak[m]Howver unable to ping 8.8.8.820:29
gauravak[m]Shows destination port unreachable20:29
SamYaplesounds like a security group issue20:30
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gauravak[m]Though i can ping internal network20:30
SamYapleoh im sorry, misread20:30
SamYapleyea thats goign to be a bit tougher for me to help with as im not terribly familiar with opendaylight20:31
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SamYapleyou can wait for a response from someone else here, or possibly check with #openstack-neutron , but that is geared more toward development20:32
SamYaplethere is also ask.openstack.org20:32
gauravak[m]Thank you sir20:34
gauravak[m]That was a great help20:34
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gunixSamYaple: are you around ?22:14
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SamYaplegunix: mostly22:19
gunixSamYaple: can you please help me better understand the advantages of OVS ?22:19
gunixa colleague told me today that active/active can be achieved with the neutron routers, if ovs is used22:19
SamYapleeh kind of22:20
SamYaplethey are probably refering to DVR22:20
gunixand that multiple controllers are not required, since the compute servers will continue to provide network for the VMs even if the compute networks are down22:20
gunixyea, he mentioned DVR, and i have no idea what that is22:20
SamYapleok. so DVR isnt the magic pill it looks like on paper22:20
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SamYapleits really cool, for a specific use case22:20
gunixi have no idea how it looks on paper :))22:20
SamYaplebasically, all computes spoof themselves as the router for *outgoing* traffic22:21
SamYaplebypassingthe l3 router in neutron22:21
SamYaplethe return traffic, however, has to return the standard way22:21
gunixso what if you have a floating IP that is connected to a VM ?22:21
DHEopenvswitch lets you manually program in routing rules that are more complicated than "if dst $MAC or $IP, then output port X"22:21
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DHEand wouldn't that only work in a non-NAT (stateless) router?22:22
SamYaplegunix: it lets the VM go from compute node <--> internet22:22
gunixSamYaple: so that means that the traffic still won't work if the controller is down22:23
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SamYapleit wont work inbound, correct22:23
SamYaplebut you cando l3ha+dvr now22:23
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gunixTCP usually means outbound + inbound.22:23
gunixit needs to work both ways22:23
SamYapleudp doesnt though22:23
SamYapleso specificuse case22:23
SamYaplelike i said, its no magic pill.but it has some advantagoues22:23
gunix...22:23
gunixhow does l3ha+dvr provide any better functionality than l3ha+linux bridge ? :D22:24
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SamYaplewell the +dvr there gives you... dvr. which has the benefits i posted above22:24
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SamYapleyoure approaching it as an active/active solution which it is not. it has a different purpose22:25
gunixit gives you udp. i find that irelevant :D22:25
SamYaplewhat?22:25
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gunixthe specific use case of udp is not something that i find usefull and a good reason to set up DVR22:25
SamYapleno. the specific use case is east-west traffic scaling22:25
gunixif that is the only advantage (outbound traffic), i find it irelevant22:26
SamYapleyou are asking questions about availability, it doesnt give you that22:26
gunixi guess it scales better since outbound traffic won't stress the router that much22:26
SamYapleat all. wont stress it at all for outbound traffic22:26
SamYapleinbound is still bounded though, yes22:27
gunixoh wait. if outbound traffic always avoid router, than east-west will be far better, since it never reaches the router22:27
SamYapleright. thats what dvr brings22:27
SamYapleit adds alot of complication though22:27
gunixbut north south is still not that good.22:27
SamYaplei prefer OVS to LB. we are slowly getting to a 100% native ovs solution22:28
gunixi mean north-south is still active/standby for inbound thourgh l3ha22:28
SamYaplethe last part we are missingis the l3 router using ovs rules rather than iptables22:28
SamYaplesecurity group rules have a native fw in ovs component now22:28
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gunixwhat do you mean with 100% native?22:29
gunixi don't get that22:29
gunixoh, wait. it still uses iptables instead of using ONLY ovs ?22:29
SamYapleright22:29
DHEthat's the old way. there is a pure OVS firewall/security groups implementation now22:29
SamYaplefor the l3 router part ovs passes to a veth where iptables does the work and linux does the routing22:29
SamYapleDHE: not for the l3 router22:30
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gunixthis really gets me to better understand the technology. i will do some research now on north-south and ha using dvr22:33
SamYaplefor what its worth, if you dont have ovs knowledge, and you do have iptables/linuxbridge knowledge, i wouldnt switch22:33
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gunixSamYaple: the project requirement is OVS22:36
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SamYaplefair enough!22:37
SamYaplewell dont let your first ovsexperince be with neutron DVR22:38
SamYapledo a normaldeploy first22:38
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gunixSamYaple: yea, i plan to do that. i don't want to feel raped by technology22:39
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