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| masber | good afternoon, can I delete snapshots and images created form snapshot without affecting the instance? | 07:20 |
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| zhan | 你好 | 08:03 |
| zhan | 有人吗 | 08:03 |
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| sri_ | masber, what is your storage backend ? | 08:45 |
| masber | lvm | 08:45 |
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| masber | sri_, lvm | 08:45 |
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| sri_ | hhmm, I am not sure we can do that in lvm, but if your using ceph you can flatten the volume | 08:46 |
| sri_ | masber, ^^ | 08:47 |
| masber | sri_, I mean I have a vm, and I created a snapshot from it, then... what do I need to do to delete the snapshot? | 08:48 |
| masber | I guess openstack snapshot delete... but will that break the instance? | 08:48 |
| masber | I guess it shouldn't (at least on vmware) but I am not sure about openstack ... | 08:48 |
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| umbSublime | just don't delete the snapshot your instance is booted on, are you _should_ be fine. If you delete snapshots of the image you are booted on it should not affect the instance | 08:51 |
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| masber | ok, how do I know if the instance is booting using that snapshot? | 08:52 |
| umbSublime | `openstack server show` and check the image id. | 08:53 |
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| masber | umbSublime, https://bpaste.net/show/d4f8d41c0491 | 08:55 |
| umbSublime | what is the image id you see with my previous commands ? | 08:55 |
| masber | sorry forgot to put the server https://bpaste.net/show/f352f57b2cc8 | 08:55 |
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| umbSublime | masber: server show plz | 08:56 |
| umbSublime | hehe you don't see image with `server list` | 08:56 |
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| masber | https://bpaste.net/show/b68e3692bac0 | 08:57 |
| umbSublime | huh ?? the image field is just empty ? | 08:57 |
| umbSublime | are you booted from the volume f1ac2e94-b0ed-4089-898f-5b6467fb51e3 ? | 08:58 |
| masber | umbSublime, yes | 08:58 |
| masber | I guess yes | 08:58 |
| umbSublime | ok, so question is is 'f1ac2e94-b0ed-4089-898f-5b6467fb51e3' a snapshot of something else ? | 08:59 |
| umbSublime | or are the snapshots made _from_ 'f1ac2e94-b0ed-4089-898f-5b6467fb51e3' | 08:59 |
| masber | the snapshots are made from f1ac2e94-b0ed-4089-898f-5b6467fb51e3 | 09:00 |
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| umbSublime | then I don't think it would affect you instance if you deleted the snapshot. But if this is prod, take precautions | 09:01 |
| masber | ok | 09:02 |
| masber | what about the images? | 09:02 |
| masber | images should be fine right? | 09:02 |
| masber | looks like the vm is booting from the volume ... | 09:02 |
| umbSublime | could you do an image show of f1ac2e94-b0ed-4089-898f-5b6467fb51e3 ? | 09:02 |
| masber | umbSublime, it says Could not find resource f1ac2e94-b0ed-4089-898f-5b6467fb51e3 | 09:06 |
| masber | and it is not listed in openstack image list | 09:06 |
| masber | that is a volume | 09:06 |
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| umbSublime | err volume mb | 09:07 |
| umbSublime | hehe | 09:07 |
| umbSublime | hehe so `volume show f1ac2e94-b0ed-4089-898f-5b6467fb51e3` | 09:07 |
| masber | umbSublime, https://bpaste.net/show/2fdfa8511756 | 09:08 |
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| umbSublime | look at the metadata, it's apparently based on a centos image "'image_name': u'centos7', u'image_id': u'7047b9a6-f0a2-415a-8ea7-af834146260f'" | 09:12 |
| umbSublime | you can at least safely delete the ubuntu image :p | 09:13 |
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| masber | ??? I deleted the centos image ... | 09:18 |
| masber | before | 09:18 |
| masber | :( | 09:18 |
| masber | but the vm is still up | 09:18 |
| masber | I had the impression openstack would create a volume based on the image? | 09:18 |
| masber | and run the vm from the volume? | 09:19 |
| umbSublime | that is currently the case | 09:19 |
| masber | ok | 09:19 |
| masber | I deleted the images | 09:19 |
| masber | so far so good | 09:19 |
| umbSublime | did you delete it just now ? | 09:19 |
| masber | I deleted the centos image like 45 mins ago | 09:20 |
| umbSublime | depending on image/volume dependencies, it is possilbe the volume was a copy on write ref to that cent os image | 09:20 |
| masber | before I started posting messages here | 09:20 |
| umbSublime | if that's the case a reboot would break your instance | 09:20 |
| masber | ups | 09:20 |
| umbSublime | take all necessary backup's before testing a reboot. If the reboot works you are golden | 09:21 |
| masber | so the vgs is 8.05t | 09:21 |
| masber | that means if I delete a lv it will free up space on the vgs but not on the physical storage host, is that right? | 09:22 |
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| umbSublime | sru | 09:22 |
| masber | I mean deleting lvs won't increase free space shown in df -h | 09:23 |
| umbSublime | sry I wouldn't know for lv, we use ceph and local storage here | 09:23 |
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| masber | but it will increase free space with vgs command | 09:23 |
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| masber | umbSublime, oh, that is a nice one | 09:23 |
| umbSublime | in our infra if we delete a base image where we created volumes, everything still works | 09:23 |
| masber | you combine distribute and local storage that is a good one! | 09:23 |
| umbSublime | hehe depending on the use case | 09:24 |
| umbSublime | local for better ios, network for HA | 09:24 |
| masber | yes, I mean for storage instensive applications it is always good to use local storage for fast/scratch data | 09:24 |
| masber | yes | 09:24 |
| masber | I tried that once and didn't work | 09:24 |
| masber | I have another openstack environment running on ceph | 09:24 |
| masber | so you just assign ephemeral on the flavor and that will go to local storage is that right? | 09:25 |
| umbSublime | I'm more admin of the infra, but apparently yes: "OS-FLV-EXT-DATA:ephemeral | 0" | 09:27 |
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| masber | nice | 09:27 |
| masber | how do you use openstack? | 09:28 |
| masber | I mean not everybody combines ceph and local storage as far as I know | 09:28 |
| masber | do you use HPC or hadoop? | 09:28 |
| umbSublime | we are a public cloud provider | 09:29 |
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| umbSublime | some people use hadoop yes | 09:30 |
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| umbSublime | but mainly our clients use it however they want/need | 09:31 |
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| masber | I see | 09:32 |
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| masber | umbSublime, which cloud provider you work for if I may ask? | 10:02 |
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| jadajada | Hi, how to can I resolve an user name to an user id with the Horizon API? I used user_list before, but this does not work in one of my environments. Is there another function dedicated to this? Thanks. | 11:22 |
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| sanju_ | hi | 11:22 |
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| sanju_ | how to login on trystack | 11:23 |
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| umbSublime | sanju_: trystack died a month ago | 11:27 |
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| umbSublime | you should check public clouds that are part of the "openstack passport program". | 11:28 |
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| umbSublime | same :p | 12:15 |
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| BDH | What variants might Status take on when querying openstack server list? | 14:23 |
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| BDH | just found this https://developer.openstack.org/api-guide/compute/server_concepts.html | 14:23 |
| BDH | not very googleable | 14:23 |
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| umbSublime | hehe I also had a hard time finding that page once | 14:42 |
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| DunceOS | I was an idiot and tried to do a live migration without shared storage in mitaka. Is there a way for me to cancel it? Its looking like a no :-( | 16:59 |
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| SamYaple | DunceOS: yes there should be | 17:41 |
| SamYaple | DunceOS: https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/#server-migrations-servers-migrations | 17:42 |
| SamYaple | abort migration | 17:42 |
| SamYaple | landed in mitaka it looks like | 17:42 |
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| vinsh | mtreinish: +100 on your final comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525994/ | 18:56 |
| vinsh | Just spent over 8 hours failing on that. | 18:56 |
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| JamesBenson | @SamYaple, have a minute? | 19:31 |
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| mtreinish | vinsh: it's too bad it fell on deaf ears, there hasn't been any progress on that front :( | 19:40 |
| mtreinish | and I don't have the time or the drive to keep pushing on it anymore | 19:40 |
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| vinsh | mtreinish: Yeah.. I should have been more aware of the service specific release notes also. Would have caught that before it was too late. | 19:47 |
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| vinsh | I brought it up to the OSA team as an issue to be aware of, in their channel. Hopefully saves another operator pain if they end up with that same combo. | 19:48 |
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| DunceOS | SamYaple: thanks! I ended up doing it a different (probably horrible way) via mysql. T_T. I forgot about the api. I thought there might be an openstack command I could use | 19:55 |
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| DunceOS | thanks for the link though! I think this is a much better way haha | 19:55 |
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| SamYaple | DunceOS: there might be idk, but the ability is there | 20:03 |
| SamYaple | JamesBenson: sure | 20:03 |
| SamYaple | mtreinish: terrible response, agreed | 20:04 |
| JamesBenson | @SamYaple, I think I have it figured out now.... sorry for the poke ;-) | 20:04 |
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| DunceOS | so follow up question. I am trying to redeploy a node with a different raid and I don't have a shared backend. I successfully migrated my vm off and now i'm trying to put it back. Is there a way to do this? Migrate live needs shared storage which I don't have. evacuate documentation shows that it rebuilds the vm but I need the ephemeral files (need meaning strongly want not absolute) Is this at all possible? or should am I stuck | 20:08 |
| SamYaple | you can do live block migration | 20:12 |
| SamYaple | its just slow | 20:12 |
| SamYaple | but supported | 20:12 |
| SamYaple | DunceOS: openstack server migrate --live otherhost --block-migration <instance> | 20:12 |
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| DunceOS | oh really?! | 20:25 |
| DunceOS | i misread what block-migration was then | 20:25 |
| DunceOS | thanks ^_^ | 20:25 |
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| SamYaple | DunceOS: shared migration is for shared storage, block migration is qemu actually syncing the disk across both qemu processes (sometimes with libvirt help dependign on the situation) | 20:39 |
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| DunceOS | I was doing this a different way but: | 20:47 |
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| DunceOS | "is not on shared storage: Live migration can not be used without shared storage except a booted from volume VM which does not have a local disk. " I think i still need to do this by hand, SamYaple . Or find another way . | 20:48 |
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| SamYaple | DunceOS: nah it works. docs are just bad | 20:52 |
| SamYaple | "Block live migration, or simply block migration. The instance has ephemeral disks that are not shared between the source and destination hosts. Block migration is incompatible with read-only devices such as CD-ROMs and Configuration Drive (config_drive). " | 20:53 |
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| DunceOS | "RESP BODY: {"badRequest": {"message": "my_host_name is not on shared storage: Live migration can not be used without shared storage except a booted from volume VM which does not have a local disk.", "code": 400}}" | 20:56 |
| DunceOS | ah maybe I have something misconfigured then | 20:56 |
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| DunceOS | "# openstack server migrate --debug --block-migration --live my_host_name 94e67d9d-b7eb-4b6e-98eb-7b65abb0f45a" | 20:57 |
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| DunceOS | that's what I tried. I'm on mitaka. Last time I tried it just straight up bombed and failed on me. So I'm curious as to why i'm getting this error now. | 20:58 |
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| SamYaple | DunceOS: im not sure this works in mitaka... but its also possible im just wrong here (though im pretty sure ive done this befroe....) | 21:09 |
| SamYaple | i only use ceph theses days | 21:09 |
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| DunceOS | yeah I used to use ceph as a backend for our vms but we have too many vms and not enough ceph. | 21:21 |
| DunceOS | haha | 21:21 |
| DunceOS | ended up tanking IO in my early experiments with it. Plus has multiple issues where volumes were unlocked in nova but nova was not unlocking them in ceph (ceph giant/hammer) | 21:21 |
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| SamYaple | oh yea thats back a ways | 21:31 |
| SamYaple | get on lumionous, or at least jewel | 21:31 |
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| DunceOS | yeah I use luminous on a cluster now and it is like night and day. Amazing. | 21:40 |
| DunceOS | still some issues but not nearly as many. Radosgw is still a mess from what I understand and last I talked to yehuda/redhat they have plans to rework it. many small operations seem to cause rgw to eat up all of the ram and die. | 21:41 |
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| DunceOS | but yeah much better | 21:41 |
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