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| kollarl | Please help! I try to install octavia on 'rocky'. I try to run 'octavia-db-manage upgrade head' but it throws an error: ProgrammingError: (psycopg2.ProgrammingError) constraint "PRIMARY" of relation "listener_statistics" does not exist | 07:40 |
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| kollarl | Please help! I try to install octavia on 'rocky'. I try to run 'octavia-db-manage upgrade head' but it throws an error: ProgrammingError: (psycopg2.ProgrammingError) constraint "PRIMARY" of relation "listener_statistics" does not exist | 09:40 |
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| frickler | kollarl: probably you need to wait for us-based folks to be awake in order to get help with that. you could also try asking in #openstack-lbaas | 09:59 |
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| yetiszaf | Anyone here that nows how routers with dvr work? I can't turn off snat and for my understanding I should be able to. | 10:21 |
| Baggypants12000 | yetiszaf: you still need snat namespaces for instances without floating ip's | 10:21 |
| Baggypants12000 | that need to get traffic out to the routeable network | 10:22 |
| yetiszaf | Baggypants12000: Do I if I don't do nat within Openstack? I'm routing the networks straight out? | 10:22 |
| Baggypants12000 | a flat network? theyn you don't need dvr either then? | 10:22 |
| yetiszaf | I was under the impression that I need to run DVR to be able to not route all traffic through the network nodes. | 10:25 |
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| yetiszaf | So the networks we have are heading out through the snat-spaces to a firewall/router, get routed and come back in on a different vlan or head somewhere else in our network | 10:28 |
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| Baggypants12000 | if you're using a shared external flat network then you shouldn't need any routers anywhere? | 10:30 |
| Baggypants12000 | The instances would attach to the external network and then send traffic directly to the nearest configured physical network. | 10:33 |
| yetiszaf | well, let's say we've got 10 Tenants with one network each, those networks are on 10/8, we've got separation between the tenants and we need to need to shove the networks out to a firewall to make sure that the tenants are separated | 10:37 |
| yetiszaf | We currently have a router on each of those networks and the router is set to DVR and snat is disabled. | 10:37 |
| yetiszaf | but the routers still spawn snat-namespaces when you enable them. | 10:38 |
| yetiszaf | From our understanding of the docs you should be able to disable snat if you tell the router what to do with the traffic | 10:38 |
| yetiszaf | our expectation was that we'd then have the traffic on 10.something/24 behave in the same way traffic on floating ips would behave - go directly out from the nova node and not be routed via the network-nodes | 10:40 |
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| Baggypants12000 | yetiszaf: the instances will only use DVR for external routable traffic if they have floating ip's otherwise they'll use the snat namespaces/ | 10:46 |
| Baggypants12000 | Which docsa re you reading that tell you about routing? | 10:46 |
| Baggypants12000 | traffic routing between networks don't need snat namespaces. | 10:47 |
| Baggypants12000 | but traffic that needs to access the internet does. | 10:47 |
| Baggypants12000 | unless the instance has a floating ip | 10:48 |
| Baggypants12000 | So you do still need snat namespaces, but the traffic travelling through them will be vastly reduced compared to a non-dvr installation. | 10:49 |
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| yetiszaf | So if we do snat externally we should remove the routers on the tenant-networks and hook them straight up to the appropriate vlans heading to the firewall? | 10:51 |
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| yetiszaf | (networks that actually use floating ips etc. excluded) | 10:52 |
| Baggypants12000 | depends if you want the networking to remain self service or not, the downside to external provider network is the tenans then no longer manage the networking, you'd have to do it all/ | 10:52 |
| Baggypants12000 | tenans/tenants | 10:53 |
| yetiszaf | self-service as in 'do resolver/dhcp' or 'you can just click your own test-network'? | 10:54 |
| Baggypants12000 | you'd have to create a set of network ports for tenants to use with their instances as they wouldn't have the permissions to attach the instances to the network by default/ | 10:55 |
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| yetiszaf | Ok ... | 10:56 |
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| yetiszaf | And if I spin up a router that's got snat disabled it will still do snat? | 10:56 |
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| Baggypants12000 | pretty sure there isn't an api call for create router with disabled snat, what do you mean? | 10:59 |
| yetiszaf | Baggypants12000: I can run 'openstack router --disable-snat $id' | 11:00 |
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| Baggypants12000 | ok so looking a the api https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/network/v2/#create-router | 11:02 |
| Baggypants12000 | "The external gateway information of the router. If the router has an external gateway, this would be a dict with network_id, enable_snat and external_fixed_ips. Otherwise, this would be null. | 11:02 |
| Baggypants12000 | so disable_snat would effectily disable the router, probably intended as a temporary measure. | 11:03 |
| yetiszaf | Baggypants12000: ok ... I've disabled the snat and the CLI told me I need to provide network-id and fixed-ip | 11:05 |
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| yetiszaf | (and it works but does snat) | 11:07 |
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| yetiszaf | But that may be the reason for the problems that we're debugging, behind all of this we're trying to figure out why a bunch of selected qrouter-netns don't work properly | 11:10 |
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| lilalinux | Is anyone here using the OS X native VPN client to connect to a VPC? | 11:35 |
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| cz2 | how can I disable LVM driver in cinder-volume? | 11:41 |
| cz2 | I don't have configured in any way, just two other backends | 11:41 |
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| cz2 | and cinder-volume still insists on starting LVMDriver | 11:41 |
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| cz2 | it's like it has some hardcoded defaults where it assumes that administrator always wants LVMDriver to be enabled | 11:42 |
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| yetiszaf | Baggypants12000: Thanks so far. | 11:42 |
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| yetiszaf | I think I may have found why this setup is funky | 14:12 |
| yetiszaf | Is there any reason why you would find the tap-interface from a qdhcp on host A not only in the ovs-flows on host A but also in the flows in host B? | 14:13 |
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| yetiszaf | Or - maybe even broader - a reason why I'd have 49 tap-interfaces registered on the ovs-bridges, but only 31 used in the ip-netns? | 14:19 |
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| tacco | monty: ping? have some questions about the os_server ansible module | 14:50 |
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| dolthesis | If I have 3x hosts all with the same NUMA topology (2 NUMA nodes each with same assignments/specs), could I make two flavors with the "hw:numa_cpus" property to better manage my NUMA node consumption? Or is there more to it than that? | 15:28 |
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| dolthesis | Well I guess I would need a set of flavors for different resources, but question remains if I can have the same "set" of flavors assigning just the superset of CPU's for one particular NUMA node, and use them across three hosts | 15:44 |
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| tomvolek | Morning: newbie to openstack and kuberneees. I have setup a lab at home with redundant Cisco routers, swithces , and 4 server nodes. What distribution/flavor of openstack should I use ? My intention is to setup openstack with kuberneets on top , I be running many clusters like Spark, Kafka, redi, etc. | 17:20 |
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| Pryan | hello, any guide for configuring openstack for ipv6 ? | 18:02 |
| Pryan | my version is queens | 18:03 |
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| frickler | tacco: I assume you might be looking for mordred? he isn't here, though, maybe try #openstack-dev | 19:09 |
| frickler | Pryan: this was written for pike, but should work in queens, too https://cloudbau.github.io/openstack/neutron/networking/ipv6/2017/09/11/neutron-pike-ipv6.html | 19:11 |
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| tacco | frickler: thanks | 19:48 |
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| beisner | coreycb: troublemaker ;-) | 21:07 |
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| greatgatsby | Hi. Just hoping for some feedback on a potential workflow. I'm going to be provisioning a number of machines on two openstack networks, one network not having external network access. I'm considering using ansible to build golden images for each image, doing so with a temporary floating IP for things like installing packages. I'll then use ansible to snapshot the images to be later provisioned in the actual production environment. Hope | 21:38 |
| greatgatsby | this makes sense. | 21:38 |
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| greatgatsby | The alternative I'm considering is not using golden images, and somehow trying to work around the lack of external network connectivity during the real deployment, but not sure how I would handle this. | 21:39 |
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