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UnknownMoss1Hi, I have a question about turning up instances with Heat on private networks (i.e. no external network connectivity). I've been trying to turn up instances on a pre-built private network and none of the instances are receiving their configuration details - i.e. no IPs, no hostnames, etc. If I use the same Heat templates on a public network, no issues - the hosts come online with all the expected configurations.19:11
UnknownMoss1At first I thought maybe this was a metadata service issue, but then I realized that the initial IP of the host needs to be configured before metadata can be accessed on 169.254.169.254.19:11
UnknownMoss1So 2 questions:19:11
UnknownMoss11) Can someone point me to documentation that details the Openstack instantiation process.19:11
UnknownMoss12) Is this a metadata service issue? If so, then how does an instance get its initial IP from the Openstack cloud so that it can start accessing the metadata service? (this may be answered by the docs in question 1)19:11
UnknownMoss1Thank you for your support!19:12
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greatgatsbyUnknownMoss1, I have very limited experience here, but you should be able to curl http://169.254.169.254 and start digging to see what is being provided.  Also, if you use config drive, you can mount the block device and see the json there as well.20:07
greatgatsbyhttps://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/metadata-service.html20:08
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UnknownMoss1greatgatsy, thank you for the response. Yes, I've tried querying http://169.254.169.254 when I'm on the public network. No issues there.20:39
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UnknownMoss1The problem is when I'm on the private network. No IP is configured on the host when I check the console and no route. So how can I query the metadata service when there is no IP configured.20:41
UnknownMoss1I'm not familiar with "config drive". Would this be the standard way to get metadata on a private network?20:42
UnknownMoss1Also, thanks for the metadata-service reference. I've read this before. What I'm hoping to find are some docs that show the entire instantiation process.20:44
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UnknownMoss1Okay I've been reading about config-drive and it does seem like this may be the path forward - https://docs.openstack.org/nova/queens/user/config-drive.html20:58
UnknownMoss1I'm still interested in docs that show the detailed Openstack instantiation process. Should be helpful for troubleshooting.21:02
UnknownMoss1Also, if there are any other suggestions on how to fix this Heat instantiation problem on a private network, I'd like to here them.21:03
albert23UnknownMoss1: I just solved a similar problem myself. If you have an option nova_metadata_ip in /etc/neutron/metadata.ini, that's not correct. It must be nova_metadata_host21:27
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UnknownMoss1albert23, thank you for the response. Sorry, I'm not sure I understand your response. I'm a tenant in the Openstack environment. Is this a configuration that the Openstack provider would have to implement?23:04
UnknownMoss1Okay, looking at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1669955.23:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1669955 in neutron " Deprecate nova_metadata_ip in favor of nova_metadata_host option" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)23:07
UnknownMoss1Seems like this is something I'd have to ask the Openstack provider to check in neutron. Thanks albert23, I'll add this to my list of possible fixes.23:08
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