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AcquaCow | I have controllers in KVM | 02:15 |
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AcquaCow | I have a full OSP10 stack in KVM actually | 02:15 |
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AcquaCow | only issues I had were with DHCP in my provisioning network | 02:16 |
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QthePirate | o/ | 02:52 |
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goreye | Hello. How do I debug the cinder-volume service? I need to make some changes to the way volumes are attached/detached. | 05:12 |
goreye | Adding pdb statements in file and installing the code throws exceptions at runtime | 05:12 |
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garciadeblas | is this the right channel to ask support questions about openstack configuration? | 11:49 |
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larsks | garciadeblas: sure. | 13:13 |
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garciadeblas | I've launched a VM connected to a provider network and assigning a fixed IPv4 address. Then tried to read the IP address from metadata service (network_data.son). MAC address is there, but IP address is not present. Any idea? | 13:31 |
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larsks | I'm not sure. Mostly I'm working with tenant networks using dhcp, so I haven't looked at the behavior of fixed ips for a long time. | 13:33 |
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Be-El | hi | 13:38 |
Be-El | a question about neutron l3 agent: is it possible to add custom routes to the virtual routers, e.g. for accessing internal network? the route would go via an ip address in the floating ip network the router resides in | 13:40 |
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BlackDex | Hello all. Is it possible to have openstack always create a volume instead of ephemeral disks? | 16:47 |
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EvanFoster | Hey folks! I've got something I've been beating my head against for about a week now and I was wondering if this was the best place to ask about it. I've looked at dozens of answers on ask.openstack.org, stackoverflow, and random blogs, and I can't seem to find an answer. | 18:08 |
EvanFoster | If this isn't the best place, please just point me where I should go and I'll head over there. | 18:09 |
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* larsks waits to see what the problem is. | 18:27 | |
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EvanFoster | Alrighty, I'll ask away then! | 18:28 |
EvanFoster | My problem is that my compute nodes have almost no storage but I can't find a way to force root disk creation to happen as a Cinder volume. | 18:29 |
EvanFoster | It can't be a manual process because I'm not creating the instances myself, Kubernetes is. | 18:29 |
EvanFoster | And Kubernetes will only accept an image and a flavor. I can't find any way to customize what it does beyond that. | 18:30 |
EvanFoster | I never ever ever want to use local storage on my compute nodes, I have a nice SAN that's running Cinder and I want all block storage to be provisioned there. | 18:30 |
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EvanFoster | I'm running Ocata and I'm getting the feeling that the answer may be to upgrade to a newer version, but I haven't seen that what I want is possible even on newer versions. | 18:31 |
larsks | I guess the first step would be to create a flavor (or flavors) with minimal or zero disk sizes. Have you tried that? | 18:31 |
EvanFoster | I have, but the issue is that then there's no volume created. | 18:31 |
EvanFoster | That's what we do for manual instance creation. Our flavor and image have 0 for root disk size, but we still have to manually create a volume for the root disk. | 18:32 |
EvanFoster | And Kubernetes isn't able to do that. | 18:33 |
larsks | So what you really want is for openstack, when booting an instance, is to (a) create a volume for you and (b) copy over the data from the boot image and then (c) boot the instance from that volume? | 18:33 |
EvanFoster | I can't even use a volume snapshot as my source, it *must* be an image. | 18:33 |
EvanFoster | Basically, yeah. I don't know if that's possible, but it would make me very happy if it was. | 18:33 |
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EvanFoster | I'm coming from oVirt where it worked that way, all storage was just an NFS mount, and nothing was ever created on the local nodes. | 18:34 |
larsks | It's not possible that I know of, but I'm not an expert. | 18:35 |
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EvanFoster | That's the feeling I'm getting. I may have to do something janky like just mount an NFS volume manually at /var/lib/nova/instances | 18:35 |
EvanFoster | In the future, our nodes will have lots of local storage and we'll use something like Ceph, but this was our first Openstack deploy and I just sort of assumed it wouldn't use local storage on the compute nodes, which is entirely my bad. | 18:36 |
EvanFoster | I actually saw a patch that was destined for Ocata that would do something like what I want, but it missed the merge window and then got dropped :C | 18:37 |
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EvanFoster | Maybe I can script something inside my image where it will automatically create a volume and then mount it in the appropriate place. I hadn't considered doing anything like that, but it seems like it may be the best option for me at the moment. | 18:40 |
EvanFoster | Thanks @larsks for listening to me, I really appreciate it, and it's helped to get this out there and ask someone. | 18:40 |
larsks | Eh, no worries. Sorry I wasn't more helpful :) | 18:41 |
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EvanFoster | Ack, this may not be an easy problem... | 19:13 |
EvanFoster | Not sure how I'm going to get my image to automatically create and attach a volume. | 19:13 |
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larsks | I suspect you are looking at either (a) patching openstack or (b) patching kubernetes. | 19:52 |
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albert23 | EvanFoster: Could Ceph be an option? They claim "now it is possible to boot every virtual machine inside Ceph directly without using Cinder" | 20:11 |
albert23 | see http://docs.ceph.com/docs/jewel/rbd/rbd-openstack/ bullet point guest disks | 20:11 |
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AcquaCow | yes | 21:46 |
AcquaCow | you don't need cinder | 21:46 |
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AcquaCow | rbd is nice that way | 21:46 |
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EvanFoster | albert23 and AcquaCow Gotcha. Would there be problems with me running Ceph and Cinder concurrently? My SAN would still have to be where everything is stored, and it still has to run Cinder | 23:27 |
EvanFoster | but if I can do the two at the same time, then look into that right now. | 23:28 |
EvanFoster | I had completely discounted Ceph for this cluster, so I really appreciate the suggestion! | 23:28 |
EvanFoster | I'm going to go pure Ceph for my next two clusters I'm creating. | 23:28 |
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