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| mikecmpbll | if i create an instance from snapshot, without a volume, can i still create an image from that? 🤔 | 10:48 |
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| mikecmpbll | trying to figure out how to create image from instance using the openstack cli. | 10:48 |
| mikecmpbll | ack, `openstack server image create` | 10:53 |
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| franceman243 | Ëš | 13:28 |
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| mikecmpbll | the backup/image/snapshot stuff in openstack is rather confusing for a newbie | 13:46 |
| mikecmpbll | i'm not precisely sure what the difference is between them | 13:46 |
| mikecmpbll | openstack image create, openstack server backup, openstack volume snapshot, openstack snapshot create, etc | 13:47 |
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| mikecmpbll | what ought i be doing if i have an instance with an attached bootable volume which i want to create an image from, to create another volume from for another instance? | 13:48 |
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| DHE | mikecmpbll: "image" is for creating vms/instances from, stored by Glance. a volume (and snapshots thereof) are managed by Cinder. | 14:04 |
| DHE | when in doubt you can do "openstack <command> --help" to see what it does and how to use it | 14:04 |
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| mikecmpbll | DHE : thanks, but the terms image and volume are within my understanding. the terms snapshot and backup however, are not. | 14:05 |
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| mikecmpbll | "openstack server backup create --help" returns "create a server backup image" | 14:05 |
| mikecmpbll | "openstack volume backup create --help" returns "Create new volume backup" | 14:06 |
| mikecmpbll | "openstack volume snapshot create --help" returns "Create new volume snapshot" | 14:06 |
| mikecmpbll | not wholly enlightening | 14:07 |
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| mikecmpbll | the various command arguments don't throw a whole lot of light on it either. | 14:07 |
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| DHE | a volume snapshot is a read-only copy of a volume that can be created at any time (subject to the cinder backend supporting it, most of the good ones do). you can use it to produce duplicate volumes, or to assist in some backup or recovery needs | 14:08 |
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| mikecmpbll | ok, so that's one variant covered. thanks. | 14:12 |
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| mikecmpbll | server image create Create a new server disk image from an existing server | 14:15 |
| mikecmpbll | server backup create Create a server backup image | 14:15 |
| mikecmpbll | ah, the docs are clearer on those two. seems the difference is that the backup command can manage retention | 14:16 |
| mikecmpbll | "server image create" creates a 0 byte image where i have a separate bootable volume attached | 14:19 |
| mikecmpbll | but "image create --volume x" won't create the image from the volume while it's in-use, and i can't detach it because it's the root device volume | 14:20 |
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| DHE | mikecmpbll: you can try taking a volume snapshot instead. then work with that snapshot. not sure if you can make an image from a volume snapshot - if not, the snapshot can be converted into a new volume with no attachments which will be fine for making into an image. | 15:10 |
| mikecmpbll | DHE : thanks, i'll give that a go. | 15:10 |
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| DHE | also depending on what you're doing with it, leaving it as a snapshot might be acceptable to you. | 15:11 |
| mikecmpbll | "Volume status must be available, but current status is: in-use." /shrug | 15:11 |
| mikecmpbll | can't create snapshot neither. | 15:11 |
| DHE | there is a force option | 15:12 |
| mikecmpbll | ah yes, that's done it. | 15:12 |
| DHE | like I said earlier, some cinder backends support snapshots of attached volumes, some don't | 15:12 |
| mikecmpbll | gotcha :). maybe it'd be easier in my case not to use a separate volume for the instance, and then use `server image create` | 15:14 |
| DHE | hmmm.... maybe, but I rather suspect it only works if the instance is powered down based on everything so far.. | 15:16 |
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