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| factor | Presentations of the first day of the openstack summit. https://www.openstack.org/videos/ | 04:14 |
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| masterpe | Hi, I have a question, what does the option image_upload_use_cinder_backend ? | 10:20 |
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| Razva | 18:21 <Razva> Hey! One of my biggest "problems" with our current Xen/Proxmox setup is that users can freely use each other's IP address, because the software stack doesn't enforce any limits. Does OpenStack have the same behavior? What I want is very simple: allow a specific VM to use a specific IP, and only that IP. | 15:29 |
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| DHE | yes, port security is a thing by default | 15:31 |
| Razva | Great! How can this be enforced, thinking at the fact that the IP is not allocated "per VM" (a la LXC)? | 15:32 |
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| DHE | actually it is. ports are assigned a specific IP address from a subnet on a network, along with their MAC address | 15:33 |
| larsks | Razva: enforcement varies depending on your networking setup, but using the default openvswitch configuration it's enforced by flow rules on the openvswitch bridge to which vms are attached. | 15:34 |
| DHE | in linux bridge mode, bridge-calls-iptables mode is enabled and iptables rules are loaded forcing interfaces to use specific IP addresses | 15:35 |
| Razva | Sounds very, very good! So in theory I can be sure that, in a OpenStack setup, users will use only the IPs that they are allowed to use. All this via OpenStack software, without any physical networking and/or external switches. Correct? | 15:36 |
| Razva | Sorry for asking such questions, but my experience with OpenStack was kinda limited, made a POC 4-5 years ago. | 15:38 |
| DHE | it rather depends on how much control you give users. I only allow users to use their own private networks, so any IP address conflicts would be internal to their own stuff anyway. for external access they get an openstack-managed NAT router which won't cause an IP conflict on the public side so I'm largely happy with that. so I just turned off port security | 15:39 |
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| factor | Flat network would need more restrictions, would think vlan would be their own IPs and could never interfere(in theory), even if they had the same ips. | 15:49 |
| Razva | I don't want to give users access to the switch and/or Horizon. They'll have access only to the VM via SSH. | 15:49 |
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| Razva | so long story short, OpenStack can do it, which is great. | 15:51 |
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| factor | You bet | 15:51 |
| factor | Will say I've only worked with flat network. vlan takes more tunnel work. Will get to that at some point and make it easier for me :) | 15:53 |
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| Razva | next question would be - and again, excuse my lack of knowledge - if OpenStack still is a pain in the arse to upgrade? When I made the initial POCs (on the Icehouse/Juno era), we decided that OpenStack is almost impossible to upgrade. Is still the case? | 15:55 |
| factor | I cant answer that. Will be putting it to the test. Want to do a write ups on it. | 15:56 |
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| factor | Razva, But off hand I have not seen any straightforward method for doing so, outside of migration. Moving data from one to another. | 15:57 |
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| Razva | factor: yeah, that was the case on that time as well. Works great for small-scale deployments, can become a deal-breaker for public clouds with hundreds/thousands of VMs. | 16:01 |
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| factor | Want to dig in and find out, so I can answer that with certainty. | 16:03 |
| factor | AFK lunch time here. Trying to make a nice command and control frontend for Openstack. Which I want migration and upgrade paths. | 16:11 |
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| DHE | it does vary. I upgraded from Newton to Rocky and it went fairly well, if slow | 16:19 |
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| jonspw | What's the most ideal way to clean up "Instance 56fc0fc6-f2f5-4e94-9abf-bdeb2e2b4707 has been moved to another host hc02-tx.privatesystems.net(hc02-tx.privatesystems.net). There are allocations remaining against the source host that might need to be removed"? I know how to remove the allocations via the API, but it seems to remove the allocations from BOTH hosts (can't find a way to only remove 1) and then I have to manually | 16:39 |
| jonspw | re-add the allocation for the proper host and this is quite a headache. Is there some way to remove the allocatiosn then have nova automatically build the allocation properly that I'm just not finding? | 16:39 |
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| factor | DHE:Good to know. | 17:08 |
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| larsks | jonspw: oh, hey, I wrote a tool for that: https://github.com/larsks/os-placement-tools | 17:16 |
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| jarbassaidai_ | /nick jrubenst | 17:39 |
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| jonspw | larsks looking into it | 17:41 |
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| jonspw | larsks it worked great after a little tweaking to make it run right! | 18:22 |
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| factor | Yeah , got Stein stable installed and running on my centos 7.6 load. | 20:32 |
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