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| kyblik | hello. I have a problem setting up HA for Ironic. after reading https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/rocky/install/configure-compute.html I was surprised to discover that there is no HA for ironic from nova-compute (with ironic driver) point of view ... ? | 09:49 |
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| kyblik | documentation says " Once active, a node will stay mapped to the same nova-compute even when it goes down. The node is unable to be managed through the Compute API until the service responsible returns to an active state.". which basically means that running bare metal nodes are not operable after ironic nova-compute which manages given node goes down. | 09:50 |
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| telemonster | Mmm Dell hardware, Triple O. The Dells catch the DHCP, but fail to TFTP boot. It times out. The TFTP server is reachable on the VLAN and I was able to pull the file off of it. | 14:16 |
| telemonster | Looking at packet capture of the DHCP reply it seems to look okay? It does have a localhost.localdomain which seems suspect but then dhcp option 60 (IIRC) allows the dhcp server to act as tftp so maybe it doesn't matter | 14:17 |
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| telemonster | One thought was modifying the in.tftpd docker container so it has some actual useful logging output | 14:19 |
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| Forty-3 | if I am running neutron-dhcp-agent, is the appropriate config for dnsmasq just /etc/dnsmasq.conf? | 14:34 |
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| telemonster | If you ps -ef | grep dnsmasq do you see where the config file is called? Is it containerized? | 14:35 |
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| Forty-3 | it appears that everything is set on the command line, since it has `--conf-file=` | 14:37 |
| telemonster | And the conf file variable points to the /etc/dnsmasq.conf ? or it's empty | 14:37 |
| Forty-3 | should I create a config and then set dnsmasq_config_file in dhcp_agent.ini? | 14:37 |
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| Forty-3 | the conf file variable has nothing | 14:38 |
| Forty-3 | e.g. dnsmasq --arguments --conf-file= --more-arguments | 14:38 |
| Forty-3 | man dnsmasq | 14:39 |
| Forty-3 | realistically, I want to use an existing dhcp server on the provider network | 14:40 |
| Forty-3 | so I wanted to set up dnsmasq as a dhcp relay | 14:41 |
| Forty-3 | otherwise it appears they will conflict | 14:41 |
| telemonster | yea you only want one dhcp server or ip helper on a subnet | 14:41 |
| Forty-3 | right, atm the vms are getting their ip from dhcp-agent, but I want them to get IP from the existing server, or have it come from a relay | 14:42 |
| Forty-3 | ofc, I am not sure whether that would interfere with the port | 14:42 |
| rouk | would neutron be able to set the port-security rules correctly if its not the one determining the ip allocation? you cant just listen to random ips with port security on | 14:44 |
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| Forty-3 | what is port security doing? | 14:45 |
| telemonster | I was going to say, looking at ours it looks like the dhcp/tftpd stuff is tied into making other calls as well | 14:45 |
| rouk | by default it only allows the assigned ip to be used on the port. disabling it would disable all security groups and firewalling | 14:45 |
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| rouk | the solution if you really really need to use a central dhcp would be to hook to the event of assigning an ip, and copy that reservation to the central dhcp list. | 14:46 |
| Forty-3 | so does openstack tell dnsmasq what IPs to assign to what macs? | 14:46 |
| rouk | yes. | 14:46 |
| rouk | and it makes firewall rules to ensure thats the case | 14:47 |
| rouk | dhcp can also be disabled, allowing you to get ip addresses via cloud-init, as well. | 14:47 |
| Forty-3 | where would I look into to create a hook like you described? | 14:47 |
| rouk | youd probably have to make a rabbitmq listener and bind to the topic, and make that daemon configure your dhcp server... theres no implemented specs that i know of that would allow it by default. | 14:49 |
| rouk | its kinda assumed youre using openstack for the allocation, but you could just write an ipam driver for neutron if youre trying to centralize your allocation. | 14:50 |
| telemonster | Hmm any ideas why Dells wouldn't complete the TFTP stage for introspection? They get DHCP assignments fine. Container is running, continer has proper IP, and I'm able to pull a file from the tftp server from the same network | 14:50 |
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| rouk | ipam driver might be less painful? havnt done it, plan on doing it eventually myself for some inventory system integration. | 14:50 |
| telemonster | It just hits a timeout | 14:51 |
| Forty-3 | oh, you mean wait for openstack to decide what IP to give and then make the existing dhcp server give that mac that ip\ | 14:51 |
| telemonster | forty-3 yea static assignments | 14:51 |
| telemonster | you might have a race condition though | 14:51 |
| telemonster | that the dhcp replies before it is updated with the new info | 14:51 |
| Forty-3 | that won't work since I'm not in direct control of the dhcp server | 14:51 |
| rouk | Forty-3: yes, if you want it the other way around, youd need an ipam driver for neutron plugging into your existing allocation system | 14:51 |
| rouk | Forty-3: does the dhcp server source its allocations from somewhere you do have control over? like an ipam system? | 14:52 |
| Forty-3 | nope | 14:52 |
| rouk | then its impossible, you need more control of something somewhere, or just accept openstack for dhcp and block out the existing dhcp server | 14:52 |
| Forty-3 | if it was up to me, we'd have everything openstack on its own network and just route it | 14:53 |
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| Forty-3 | but I'm not calling the shots here :l | 14:53 |
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| rouk | well, youre up a creek without a paddle in this case, youll need SOME control SOMEWHERE to integrate. | 14:53 |
| rouk | either you control the allocations on the dhcp server, or you split openstack off and let openstack handle it, or you disable port-security globally and throw away a mountain of consistency and have everything confused. | 14:54 |
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| Forty-3 | could I set up something to modify the port to the correct address after it has been assigned? | 14:56 |
| rouk | are the assignments from your existing dhcp static, forever? how would you signal that the ip is now free? cause yes, you could get an ip... then remap the ip on the port, but youd need to boot every instance twice. | 14:59 |
| Forty-3 | why would I need to reboot the instance? | 14:59 |
| rouk | because youd boot it, neutron will pick an ip for it, it will get a different ip, fail to get connected, youd listen for the reservation on your existing server, then copy that to neutron, then rebuild the instance. | 15:00 |
| rouk | would be a mess. | 15:00 |
| Forty-3 | so ports don't get updated unless you rebuild the instance? | 15:00 |
| rouk | i guess it could be done live, since you do have the ip assigned already. it should work. | 15:01 |
| rouk | but what guarantee do you have that your dhcp server isnt going to change the allocation later? you need some kind of ipam | 15:01 |
| Forty-3 | maybe block dhcp traffic and set up a relay | 15:02 |
| Forty-3 | and then hook into the relay to know what the real IP is | 15:02 |
| rouk | still will have downtime when the ip changes at random on a new lease or after some time with an instance shut down. and your dns records will need constant updating too. | 15:03 |
| Forty-3 | yeah, I agree it would be pretty messy | 15:04 |
| rouk | the powers above you have given you an impossible task, and even a workaround IF you had control of the allocations would require developer time. | 15:06 |
| Forty-3 | they think openstack is just a bit different esxi >.> | 15:07 |
| Forty-3 | "why can't you just make the network bridged" | 15:07 |
| rouk | well, if you want to use only nova, glance, cinder, and horizon, and remove nova entirely, yes, you can. but just use libvirt directly at that point, proxmox does that job. | 15:08 |
| Forty-3 | idk, they told me they wanted a "web interface" but now it's basically supposed to be full custom | 15:09 |
| rouk | remove neutron entirely* if you can get some ip blocks removed from the dhcp scope that you can control, you can run without dhcp, use cloud-init configdrive to seed your ips, works great without dhcp. | 15:09 |
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| Forty-3 | if I could get some blocks removed from dhcp scope, I'd just tell neutron to assign IPs from that block | 15:10 |
| Forty-3 | but apparently that involves corporate involved | 15:10 |
| rouk | but youd have dhcp conflicts, unless you could lock yourself into a vlan and route. | 15:10 |
| Forty-3 | how do you mean? | 15:10 |
| Forty-3 | atm, the problem is that the existing dhcp server and dhcp-agent might assign two computers to the same IP | 15:11 |
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| rouk | if neutron has a dhcp server, and corp has a dhcp server, and theyre in the same vlan, its a dice roll on which dhcp server gets the assignment. | 15:11 |
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| Forty-3 | oh, I see | 15:11 |
| Forty-3 | couldn't I firewall off dhcp? | 15:12 |
| rouk | so youd need your own vlan if you wanted to use your own dhcp at all. configdrive would configure the ip using cloud-init based on parsing the network config out of a file on a cdrom openstack attaches. | 15:12 |
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| rouk | so you could run dhcp-less. but that doesnt fix ip conflicts. | 15:13 |
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| rouk | Forty-3: i dont know your experience with openstack, but if your corp wants a more-different esxi, the flow of openstack will cause them to get frustrated. | 15:18 |
| Forty-3 | I mean, their use-case sounds much more like what openstack could handle | 15:20 |
| Forty-3 | but they've never used it before outside of a few people | 15:20 |
| rouk | i just mean if theyre expecting to boot a windows server 2016 install cd and manually click through installers youre in for some culture shock | 15:21 |
| Forty-3 | I mean, one of the requirements was to have an easy way to spin up a clean VM | 15:22 |
| Forty-3 | which seems very much in-line with the images/instances model of openstack | 15:22 |
| Forty-3 | one of the other ones was that it needed to be scriptable, and openstack seems to have a very extensive api | 15:23 |
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| rouk | and youd be right, i just mean that the flow of booting cdrom installers doesnt really work here, and some more "traditional" admins might have some shock, if theyre esxi people | 15:24 |
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| Forty-3 | nah, they also expected to be creating VMs on another machine (e.g. with just libvirt+kvm) | 15:24 |
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| Forty-3 | so the process pretty closely aligns with openstack, it's just that the expectations of how a hypervisor works are different | 15:28 |
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| rouk | yeah, either get control of something and some dev resources to integrate with it, or reserve a block, or give up. | 15:30 |
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| Forty-3 | as an aside, how can I connect with a desktop-based vnc client? | 15:34 |
| Forty-3 | I keep hitting C-W and closing the tab | 15:34 |
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| rouk | LMGTFY, https://docs.openstack.org/python-openstackclient/pike/cli/command-objects/console-url.html | 15:35 |
| rouk | if you enable spice, spice is nice, btw. | 15:36 |
| Forty-3 | ah, ty | 15:37 |
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| fmulti | hi, i ran ansible-hardening on Ubuntu 16.04 and am trying to re-enable the use of USB flash drives... | 18:07 |
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| fmulti | not having nay luck playing with stuff i can find, autofs, usbmount, etc | 18:08 |
| fmulti | the drive is shon in dmesg, but not in the Drives utility | 18:08 |
| fmulti | Disks utility* | 18:08 |
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| fmulti | found it... /etc/modprobe.d/, ansible created a file that disables usb-storage | 18:20 |
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| BLZbubba | hi guys, when I run "openstack catalog list" I have two entries for neutron/network - one with no endpoints | 19:30 |
| BLZbubba | is there a way to remove the bogus one? | 19:30 |
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| BLZbubba | ok i deleted the neutron service and then the second one showed up in the list | 19:33 |
| BLZbubba | not sure how I ended up with duplicates, but it is sure a bad situation | 19:33 |
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| BLZbubba | trying to create a network here, is there a way to tell which endpoint this debug line refers to: {"network": {"router:external": true, "name": "provider", "provider:physical_network": "provider", "admin_state_up": true, "provider:network_type": "flat", "shared": true}}: EndpointNotFound: Could not find requested endpoint in Service Catalog. | 19:43 |
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| redkrieg | I'm going to be offering a ddos filtered subnet to end users and I want to ensure that the users cannot allocate one on their own (they'll be paying extra). my current plan has been to reserve all of the IPs in the subnet by adding them to an admin port and then manually assigning them via tooling on demand, but I've recently found the service_type field and was wondering if that would be an | 19:57 |
| redkrieg | effective way to control usage for these addresses if they're in the same network as my public IPs. does anyone have experience with service types for subnets and whether they could be used for this purpose? | 19:57 |
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| BLZbubba | ok get_endpoint says that neutron is trying to read service_type "identity", service_name "None", interface "admin" | 20:31 |
| BLZbubba | presumably the "None" is bad news | 20:31 |
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| BLZbubba | region is "None" in the request, maybe that is the problem? | 20:55 |
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| BLZbubba | yes that aws it | 20:59 |
| BLZbubba | was | 20:59 |
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| BLZbubba | is there a sensible way around this on EL7: InternalError: Nova requires QEMU version 2.5.0 or greater. | 22:37 |
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