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| skullone | has anyone gotten Gnocchi/Ceilometer working on a bare RDO install? seems to be missing stuff | 04:41 |
| skullone | gnocchi seems to be in a restart loop till systemd kills it - debug logs dont show any errors | 04:42 |
| skullone | and ceilometer-upgrade itself just hangs... | 04:42 |
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| Blinkiz | Hello. Am new at OpenStack and am failing to understand workflow about adding a network. | 09:46 |
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| Blinkiz | I have an external marked provider network that has one subnet with 254 public IPv4 addresses. I now want projects to take IPv4 addresses from this subnet and use them for instances or routers. Am failing to understand this workflow because subnet is not external/shared, only the network is. How can I let my users (projects) use IPv4 addresses from my /24 range? | 09:48 |
| Blinkiz | Am guessing there is something about Self-service network but am failing there also. Same reason, the subnet create by me (admin) is not shared so others can take IP address. Getting a floating IP address seems to work but am failing to understand how I can add that floating IP to an routers external port. | 09:50 |
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| frickler | Blinkiz: you would do "openstack router set <router> --external-gateway <network>" and the router will take an IP from the subnet on that network automatically | 10:04 |
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| Blinkiz | frickler, thank you for responding. I have tried that many times as admin user but it does not create an interface on the router owned by another project. | 10:05 |
| Blinkiz | The command works create if I set up everything as admin | 10:05 |
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| frickler | Blinkiz: it should also be possible to do that as non-admin within the project | 10:06 |
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| Blinkiz | frickler, I have tried that also. As a normal user (project) I can see the external network when creating router. It work, it does not complain. The router get an IPv4 address on the external gateway. But! But no interface is created on the router. So no interface type "external gateway". Am guessing that is the problem? | 10:09 |
| Blinkiz | In horizon, if I click on the new created router I can see the external gateway IP address on Overview tab. But on the Interfaces tab there is no interfaces. I can add my own network but never one with external gateway as type | 10:11 |
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| Blinkiz | There is something am missing. A permission problem maybe? I do not understand. :) It works if everything is created by the admin user. Then it adds the type "external gateway" on interface tab. | 10:12 |
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| frickler | Blinkiz: probably that's by design that a normal user cannot see the external interface | 10:13 |
| Blinkiz | Maybe it should not be an interface type "external gateway" in a users router? Maybe I do not understand here.. But it does not work for the instance to reach Internet past the router. | 10:13 |
| Blinkiz | frickler, But you have given me valuable information. Then I know that it should be enough with "openstack router set <router> --external-gateway <network>". I can focus my troubleshooting there | 10:15 |
| Blinkiz | Thank you :) | 10:15 |
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| recheck | [so-openstack] Terraform resource always recreated → https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58235141/terraform-resource-always-recreated | 11:18 |
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| a90c | On which os do you guys usually use openstack? | 12:55 |
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| factor | a90c, Centos, trying to get ubuntu with juju working recently though. | 12:58 |
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| factor | Got Ubuntu installing with Juju, but not working so far. | 12:59 |
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| factor | Just now testing with Centos7.7 see how my setup holds up with it. Need to get my wordpress dev site setup | 13:00 |
| a90c | factor: whats wrong with juju? | 13:02 |
| factor | Nothing , its really good. Im just not familiar with defaults needed for its setup. | 13:02 |
| factor | YOuhave ot have pre-existing hardware or vm to install it on. | 13:03 |
| a90c | Does centos provide a tool like juju? | 13:03 |
| factor | I use packstack, which is a puppet install. | 13:03 |
| factor | They are similar. | 13:04 |
| factor | Want to do a write up on juju installation ASAP. Getting close to making a basic one. | 13:05 |
| factor | a90c, Which OS/Setup do you use? | 13:08 |
| a90c | factor: in fact, im very new to openstack project. i just wanted to know which os would be better for beginners. | 13:08 |
| factor | CentOs and Ubuntu are both good. Will know more once I finish Ubuntu setup . | 13:10 |
| factor | What type of system do you have to work with? | 13:10 |
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| a90c | You mean Hardware specific? | 13:11 |
| factor | a90c, Yes. | 13:12 |
| factor | I have 8 cores and usually play with 4-6 cores for VMS. | 13:12 |
| a90c | factor: i have 6x dell r720 | 13:12 |
| factor | a90c, How many cores? | 13:12 |
| a90c | They have 2 x e5 2670 8 cores | 13:13 |
| factor | a90c, good | 13:13 |
| factor | a90c, If you want to try CentOS7.x you can try my install https://icarusfactor.github.io/openstack-Installs/stein/centos7_packstack/ | 13:14 |
| factor | a90c, Im currently testing 7.7 on it, but the text is for 7.6 | 13:14 |
| factor | So far its working as 7.6, no issues and in middle of install of packstack. | 13:15 |
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| factor | So I think you can use 7.7 , since it has the python 3.x stuff. | 13:16 |
| factor | Python 2 will be unsupported by 2020 | 13:16 |
| factor | few months away. | 13:16 |
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| a90c | factor: thanks for your nicr pointers. | 13:17 |
| a90c | *nice | 13:17 |
| factor | No problem. Glad to see people trying it out, its really neat and powerful. | 13:18 |
| factor | It can do microservices as well, with Magnum. Full VMs are good for virtual netowrks or SDN's | 13:18 |
| factor | Microservices would be docker images. | 13:19 |
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| a90c | factor: how do you make container orchestration on magnum? | 13:25 |
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| factor | a90c, I think that would be heat, but you can do it manually with puppet and or ansible or even python or bash scripts. | 13:26 |
| factor | they have a gui version option, but have not used it. | 13:26 |
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| factor | if you check the Dashboard options. | 13:27 |
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| factor | a90c, But I have not gotten to work with microservice yet, been busy working on my website. | 13:28 |
| factor | Will be working with microservice more now | 13:28 |
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| a90c | Microservices are future. i will be having fun with them. | 13:30 |
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| factor | I keep trying to get time to use and learn them , which I have a little bit , but the full VMs have done well for me so far. But yes need to learn them as theyre good for production options, as they are black boxes. you dont touch much of the system stuff as you would with VM. | 13:32 |
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| factor | Hands off OS is not my cup of tea, but excellent for production, as you just replace them if something goes wrong. But scalability is not the best for complex network setup . | 13:33 |
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| factor | if you have a contained single systems their best. But they do use them for networking. I would not though. | 13:38 |
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| ryuujin | hi all... in your opinion, is it possible I implemnent a openstack solution with local disk inraid? | 16:01 |
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| ryuujin | local storage i mean | 16:03 |
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| recheck | [so-openstack] HTTP error 401 when configuring keystone → https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34192462/http-error-401-when-configuring-keystone | 17:15 |
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| nick_wv | Hello everyone ! I am using PackStack to do a deployment of OpenStack on a single machine with one NIC. I am trying to bridge this machine to the local LAN network so that I can interface with the VMs from other machines on the LAN. I have some questions if anyone has time to help me out | 18:23 |
| factor | nick_wv, Im working on building one right now | 18:24 |
| nick_wv | I am following a guide and I am getting different results from the guide. Have you achieved this before? | 18:25 |
| nick_wv | I am following a guide and I am getting different results from the guide. Have you achieved this before?/#rdo | 18:25 |
| factor | Upading my guide as it different in one way now. | 18:27 |
| factor | Had problems with Rabbit before and hacked it on timeout. But now I dont thin I need it on the singe node system. | 18:28 |
| nick_wv | I would love to read it so that I can try to solve this. I am using this guide https://www.rdoproject.org/documentation/packstack-all-in-one-diy-configuration/ right now. | 18:28 |
| factor | single^ | 18:28 |
| factor | nick_wv, Where are you having problems. | 18:28 |
| factor | https://icarusfactor.github.io/openstack-Installs/stein/centos7_packstack/ | 18:29 |
| factor | Im using mine and it works , but you get an error with Rabbit not working. | 18:29 |
| nick_wv | My major concern is that, on my lan, our computers have assigned IPs from DHCP. So in the guide when I create my subnet, I need to specify a range of IPs to use. In the guide, they are using 15 IPs from a /24 range. I only have one IP on a /25 range. | 18:29 |
| factor | The range can be one | 18:30 |
| factor | So you will run out after assigning a single woutside instance connection. | 18:31 |
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| nick_wv | So I gave the subnet only one IP, my local computers IP. I moved on from that section. Later on there is a check section. When running ovs-vsctl show, I do not see that any new interfaces have been created. Instead of moving on, I wanted to stop and find out why it failed | 18:31 |
| nick_wv | Just to clarify, you mean that I will only be able to make one VM instance, and it will take that IP then I will have no IPs left? | 18:32 |
| factor | No | 18:32 |
| factor | You will be able to only assign one floatin gIP. | 18:32 |
| factor | You can assign instances till your hardware allows. | 18:32 |
| factor | Floating IP will be the only thing it will limit. | 18:33 |
| nick_wv | So is that the IP that will be external facing to the LAN, and there will be internal IPs to the instances that will be bridged through that one external, on local LAN, IP? | 18:33 |
| factor | yes | 18:33 |
| factor | You will have to assign floating IPs to get access. If this fails you have assigned too many. | 18:34 |
| factor | or not setup any. | 18:34 |
| nick_wv | Understood. Now, I still have the issue of not seeing a new interface when I run "ovs-vsctl show" | 18:34 |
| factor | You should see the defined inteface. | 18:34 |
| factor | : ovs-system: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000 | 18:34 |
| factor | link/ether 4e:d0:7b:f2:81:42 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff | 18:34 |
| factor | 4: br-ex: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 | 18:34 |
| factor | sorry. | 18:35 |
| factor | thought that would be two lines not four | 18:35 |
| nick_wv | Using the guide, it directed me to use the command before/after I set up the network, subnet, and router and that I should have seen a change. I have not noticed a change | 18:35 |
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| factor | when you do a ip a do you see your opeVswitch bridge. | 18:35 |
| factor | You can have a openstack instance, but without a bridge. But its not able to access outside. | 18:36 |
| nick_wv | I do have a "ovs-system" when I run ip a and ifconfig but no change when I run "ovs-vsctl show" nor "ip netns" | 18:36 |
| nick_wv | To be clear, I do not have "ovs-system" with "ovs-vsctl show" nor "ip netns" | 18:37 |
| factor | No change in mine either. | 18:37 |
| nick_wv | Ok, the guide may be wrong there. They did mention that it may be because the guide is patched together. I will contiue on since yours is presenting the same way. | 18:38 |
| factor | Yes. | 18:39 |
| nick_wv | Thank you very much | 18:39 |
| factor | Im working over new stuff on my guide. | 18:39 |
| factor | Ramy guide is just 2 months old. | 18:39 |
| factor | Some new things with RabbitMQ and not being needed for single node systems. | 18:39 |
| factor | that is my current theory. | 18:40 |
| factor | as everythign is working ,although I get an error and Rabbit is not running. | 18:40 |
| nick_wv | I just pulled it up, is it neccesarry to have extra IPs ready? Because I do not have that option | 18:40 |
| factor | You can add them later. | 18:40 |
| factor | As long as you have a single working setup should be fine. | 18:40 |
| nick_wv | I do have single network, but I will not be able to get more IPs at a later date. The college will not allow it | 18:41 |
| factor | heh | 18:41 |
| factor | No issue then as long as it works. | 18:41 |
| nick_wv | Will this be a problem? We are trying to get openstack setup for our cyber security lab. Use OpenStack to host our VMs but bridge it to local LAN so that everyone can acess its resources | 18:42 |
| nick_wv | heh is correct lol | 18:42 |
| factor | that is what I use for my home lab. Its just one actual IP. | 18:43 |
| factor | It makes it easy to setup entire networks to test against. | 18:43 |
| factor | Just one IP is needed for external www access to get packages. | 18:44 |
| nick_wv | My home lab is jusr prox mox right now. | 18:44 |
| factor | or general web access. | 18:44 |
| nick_wv | And that is exactly what we want to do | 18:44 |
| factor | Yes sounds like a great setup . | 18:45 |
| nick_wv | Ill get there eventually | 18:45 |
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| factor | nick_wv, oh and to reconfigure packstack , you just run packstack command again with new answer settings. | 18:59 |
| factor | if any changes need to be done. | 19:00 |
| factor | Its a "puppet apply" install. If you're familiar with puppet it just goes over it plan and reapplies it initial state. With new modification of course. | 19:01 |
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| ozzzo | Is it possible to change dns_domain of an existing network? | 19:09 |
| ozzzo | looking at "os help network set" I don't see a way to change it | 19:09 |
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| nick_wv | I did not know that, that is extremely helpful. Thank you | 19:14 |
| factor | ozzzo, Cant say I have done that, I've only used setting /etc/hosts on each system. | 19:15 |
| factor | nick_wv, no problem. | 19:15 |
| factor | ozzzo, Had not been aware Openstack had DNS as a service, I just use the Operating systems method of doing DNS or name lookup. | 19:17 |
| factor | Openstack I just setting the netowrks or subnets. | 19:17 |
| factor | I do give names to my networks , but not used by DNS. | 19:18 |
| factor | ozzzo, sounds like a good project DNSaaS. One may exist , but not aware of it. | 19:21 |
| factor | Like TROVE is DBaaS. I just setup my own DB instances currently. | 19:22 |
| factor | Save the state and restore and create a new name DB when need a new database instance. | 19:23 |
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| factor | Would be the same thing for DNS server. Just save a good instance and restore it when needed. | 19:26 |
| factor | Openstack has DHCP agents , but this again is for IP's not domain names. | 19:27 |
| factor | You end up with a lot of good instances you can then restore and create what kinds on network you wish. Although these can get stale and need upgrading. | 19:28 |
| factor | But for production , its good to have an original instance you can restore to original in case of failure or corruption | 19:29 |
| factor | Humm so far tests have passed I dont need an MQ for single node install. Has always been troublesome and not used. Need to modfy my write to disable it and not mind the errors from it. Until you want to add a node. | 19:32 |
| ozzzo | factor: We're using Designate for DNS | 19:38 |
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| emartel | Hello all, I have a noob question: Can I run Cinder on a compute node and use a simple directory on the existing filesystem for the backend? | 19:41 |
| factor | emartel, some of the install do that ,using a loopback packstack does this I think. | 19:43 |
| factor | ozzzo, will look Designate up, not familiar with it. but its not part of the core openstack. | 19:43 |
| factor | You may can use its individual CLI command for it, but not openstack command. | 19:44 |
| factor | Stein is the first version I could use all of the core items with openstack command. Neutron was not fully in rocky. | 19:45 |
| factor | I assume many others as well. | 19:45 |
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| emartel | factor: Maybe I'm complicating my life for nothing. My goal here is simply to start by building this simple lab setup with one compute and use the compute local storage for instance volumes. Do I need Cinder then? How can I tell Openstack to use the local filesystem from the compute node? | 19:46 |
| factor | emartel, no you do not need cinder , but cool to have. | 19:47 |
| factor | Cinder Swift two items of storage types. | 19:48 |
| factor | Swift is working by default small installs. | 19:48 |
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| emartel | ok I was following the install guide... I dont think it mentioned swift. I'll look into it | 19:49 |
| factor | ozzzo, Im looking at the designate options and they only have openstack commands. using "openstack dns service list" or "openstack zone create" | 19:49 |
| factor | https://docs.openstack.org/designate/latest/install/create-zone.html | 19:50 |
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| factor | So yes its like DNSaaS | 19:50 |
| factor | You can add record change or remove them. | 19:51 |
| factor | So to answer your initial question. Yes , just delte the zone and create a new one , or change the records of an existing one. | 19:53 |
| factor | ozzzo, ^ | 19:53 |
| factor | Just like any BIND DNS, but centralized to your SDN. Very nice. | 19:53 |
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| factor | Will have to try it out. | 19:54 |
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| behzad_rockon | hi all | 19:57 |
| behzad_rockon | I have a problem as installating the Neutron | 19:57 |
| behzad_rockon | can anybody help me out sort the problem | 19:57 |
| behzad_rockon | as I have issue the following command | 19:58 |
| behzad_rockon | su -s /bin/sh -c "neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf \ | 19:58 |
| behzad_rockon | --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini upgrade head" neutron | 19:58 |
| behzad_rockon | the following error is shown | 19:58 |
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| factor | behzad_rockon, What version of openstack? | 19:59 |
| behzad_rockon | The Stein release | 20:00 |
| behzad_rockon | on Ubuntu 18.04 | 20:00 |
| behzad_rockon | here is the error message | 20:00 |
| behzad_rockon | http://paste.openstack.org/show/781099/ | 20:00 |
| behzad_rockon | the link has the error output | 20:00 |
| behzad_rockon | the error message says that it could not find the IP address as I have entered in the file (neutron.conf) correctly | 20:01 |
| behzad_rockon | ValueError: controller_1 is not IPv4 or IPv6 address | 20:01 |
| behzad_rockon | here is the error message | 20:01 |
| behzad_rockon | and this is the neutron.conf file | 20:02 |
| behzad_rockon | http://paste.openstack.org/show/781100/ | 20:02 |
| factor | Dont know the answer but using the latest python3 stuff. | 20:02 |
| behzad_rockon | thanks for reply | 20:03 |
| behzad_rockon | do u think that it is the issue of Python3? | 20:03 |
| varesa | is controller_1 resolvable using DNS or hosts-file? | 20:03 |
| behzad_rockon | yes | 20:03 |
| behzad_rockon | root@controller_1:/etc/neutron# ping controller_1 | 20:03 |
| behzad_rockon | PING controller_1 (10.10.13.110) 56(84) bytes of data. | 20:03 |
| behzad_rockon | 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (10.10.13.110): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.016 ms | 20:03 |
| behzad_rockon | 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (10.10.13.110): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.042 ms | 20:03 |
| behzad_rockon | ^C | 20:03 |
| factor | behzad_rockon, if it is a python 2 or 3 issue, you can run "sudo lsof |grep python2" and "sudo lsof |grep python2" on the main system. | 20:06 |
| factor | if python3 does not show any programs and only python2 then your getting pythons mixed up. | 20:07 |
| varesa | I think it doesn't like the underscore | 20:07 |
| varesa | https://github.com/openstack/oslo.config/blob/master/oslo_config/types.py#L775 | 20:07 |
| factor | sorry python3 on the second command not python2 on both :) | 20:08 |
| behzad_rockon | there is a high probability that the underscore could be the main issue | 20:08 |
| varesa | it first check if it is a valid IP address which fails (expected since it is not an IP address but a hostname) | 20:08 |
| varesa | then it checks if it is a "valid" hostname, which includes only consisting of letters, digits and hyphens (according to linked comment) | 20:09 |
| factor | ahh sounds like an issue as underscore is not listed. | 20:09 |
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| behzad_rockon | @factor I am using the Python3 as the sudo lsof | grep -i python2 shows nothing. However the Python3 shows the ... | 20:09 |
| varesa | so this is the "real error": ValueError: controller_1 is an invalid hostname | 20:09 |
| factor | Good | 20:09 |
| ozzzo | ok ty factor! | 20:09 |
| factor | ozzzo, np | 20:10 |
| behzad_rockon | yesss | 20:10 |
| behzad_rockon | I think that's the issue | 20:10 |
| behzad_rockon | sorry guys for such a newbie question | 20:11 |
| behzad_rockon | and clumsy | 20:11 |
| behzad_rockon | thank you guys | 20:11 |
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| varesa | well the answer isn't immediately obvious - but it helps to know enough programming to be able to read the code and walk back from the error :) | 20:11 |
| behzad_rockon | I will update you as I change my hostname | 20:12 |
| dking_desktop | Could somebody help me figure out how to troubleshoot a nova boot stuck in BUILD/scheduling/NOSTATE ? | 20:13 |
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| dking_desktop | I'm attempting a tripleo deploy, and that's where the process seems to stop. I got the same when I attempted to boot one manually, also. | 20:15 |
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| behzad_rockon | @veresa @factor thanks for your help. the issue were the invalid hostname | 20:19 |
| emartel | @factor thanks for the tip, this really helped guide me to the right direction. I mounted a loopback volume in a file and it works just fine for my lab | 20:28 |
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| factor | emartel, Great, yes. Also note if you remove the instance it will leave the Cinder volume behind. | 20:32 |
| factor | emartel, they are separate items. | 20:33 |
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| chudler | I want to learn as much as I can about conntrack_helper in neutron, but I cannot even find one document on google. Please help? | 20:36 |
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| chudler | perhaps if I use ovn I shouldn't care? At least I have managed to find the source code <https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/services/conntrack_helper/plugin.py> | 20:41 |
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| factor | chudler, Cool keep up the work, its does matter. I store and use the data in logstash. | 20:57 |
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| factor | Stand corrected RabbitMQ is needed even on single node installs. Cant use glance to install an image. | 21:27 |
| factor | Getting rabbitMq setup is the biggest PTIA | 21:32 |
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| factor | Ahh found the issue, my hostname did not match /etc/hosts | 22:42 |
| factor | Yeah! all working now. | 22:43 |
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