Thursday, 2019-11-28

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wingshi folks02:31
wingsOpenstack Training Labs vs DevStack... what's recommended for the best learning experience?02:31
wingsI've already tried Devstack and found it kind of flaky02:31
wingsand haven't really learned much by setting it up02:31
wingsI'm wary that OTL appears to be a bit out of date02:31
elicowings: I am also starting and working on a lab right now. May I ask what are you looking for? what scale expirence?02:32
wingselico: just a crash course on OpenStack administration, with perhaps a focus on Keystone.02:32
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wingsI've got a core i7 laptop with 16GB of RAM and plenty of disk...02:33
elicowings: what os?02:33
wingshoping to spin up a standalone setup on that and have a play02:33
wingsAt the moment Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit. I'm open to other OSes if that's easier but I'm under the impression stock Ubuntu 16.04 or 18.04 is "most supported"02:34
elicoI am working with CentOS 7 latest on my local lab. I like it but still wondering if there is anything specific to test and try.02:36
elicoI have here a Corei7 workstation with 32GB Ram and some disk space as the base hypervisor.02:36
elicoI am using nested virtualization..02:36
wingsYep. I started with DevStack in a VM but it was (understandably!) horribly slow02:36
elicoWhat CPU?02:36
wingsI'm now using DevStack directly on bare metal02:37
wingsi7-6600U. Not exactly a beast but should be good enough for testing02:37
elicoAnd what disk? SSD/HDD?02:37
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elicowings: it can test but you need to enable nested virtualization..02:39
wingselico: on my main machine (MacBook Pro 2018) i can't do nested virtualization02:40
wings512GB SSD02:41
elicowings: hmm so what is slow exactly?02:41
wingsoh, sorry02:41
wingsto be clear, running DevStack in a VirtualBox VM on my macbook pro, the VMs inside it were dead slow02:42
wingsas they were running without nested VTx02:42
wingsDevStack on bare metal has been plenty fast enough02:42
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elicowings: So what are you ontop right now?02:43
wingsI'm in a bit of a holding pattern. Whether to continue with DevStack or pave the machine and try out OpenStack Training Labs02:43
wingsI managed to break DevStack twice already, which led to my impression of it being flaky02:44
elicowings: hmm how do you try to learn?02:44
wingsright now having done nothing but gracefully rebooting once or twice, the front page of the dashboard shows the error "Error: Unable to retrieve limits information."02:44
wingswith a fresh install02:44
wingsusually by just spinning something up and going hands-on. Can't do too much reading or my head hurts02:45
elicowings: I can recommend on this: https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_18.04&p=openstack_stein&f=202:46
elicowhich is pretty straight forward installation.. without too much issues to my expirence.02:46
elicoI would start with a basic installation.02:47
wingselico: Thanks :)02:48
elicoIt builds the installation and you can stop in the middle...02:48
elicolike when you get to the compute node you can stay with this..02:48
wingselico: I wouldn't mind learning the whole thing02:49
wingsjust to skill up, but more importantly to understand02:50
elicoFrom my trials I am trying to start small with the basic services and later move on to others once these are working properly.02:51
wingsCool. That sounds like good advice. Thank you very much. :)02:52
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dirtwashis it recommended to use Kolla?10:24
dirtwashor safe10:24
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