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| oklhost | Hi @all. Anybody facing issues with latest Google Chrome and "Launch Instance" button in horizon? The modal won't open... | 09:04 |
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| squalluca | hello, i was wondering if you could give me some help, since my google-fu failed me on this one.In my company we are planning to deploy openstack (we are still in a very early stage), our datacenter network topology is partitioned in network islands, the delivery of public network is accomplished via vlans at each TOR switch, all racks belonging to | 09:14 |
| squalluca | a network island have access to a set o vlan segment used to delivery public networks, but racks on ther network islands are not reached by the same segments.We were planning to segregate the compute part with cells ( 1 per island), my doubt is, is there a way in neutron to specify the hosts from which this network is reachable and pass this info | 09:14 |
| squalluca | to the placement service in order to schedule resources requesting a particular network to the right compute host? | 09:14 |
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| admin0 | squalluca, its not clear if your public segment is on an island .. or the private segment also ? | 09:25 |
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| admin0 | for argumens, lets assume you need 5 different network ranges 1. to ssh to the server from your vpn/office (routable) 2. API network 3. east-west (vxlan) network 4. storage network 5. north-south ( public ip) routable | 09:27 |
| admin0 | so between your racks, what network can talk to each other, and what cannot ? | 09:28 |
| squalluca | admin0 hello, only the public ones, my goal would be to allow private segments ( on vxlan ) to span multiple cells, and have a separete sets of publics vlan for each cells | 09:28 |
| squalluca | @admin0 everything is shared but 5, noth sout traffic | 09:29 |
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| admin0 | so for example, if you have 3 racks, each rack can reach the (shared) north-south but everything else is segmented .. or its the opposite .. means each rack can share the other networks, but public will be segmented ? | 09:30 |
| squalluca | @admin0 the opposite, each rack can share the other networks but public is segmented | 09:31 |
| admin0 | ok .. so what you are looking for is a way to map specific hypervisors ( or az, server groups ) to specific external networks | 09:31 |
| squalluca | yes | 09:32 |
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| admin0 | squalluca, i don't know the answer yet :) | 09:33 |
| admin0 | and if you don't get a suitable solution, is this a fixed requirement or still subject to change in networking ? | 09:35 |
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| squalluca | @admin0 probably fixed, dropping that requirment will mean to rethink all our dc networking, technically doable, financially not :D | 09:37 |
| admin0 | isn't sharing a network just a matter of adding a cable and the right vlan tag :) ? | 09:37 |
| admin0 | technically, you can add multiple provider networks .. so lets say rack1-uplink, rack2-uplink and rack3-uplink .. and each network will work only from their respective instances from the same rack | 09:39 |
| admin0 | so if someone from rack2( or a-z 2 ) connects to rack-3 network, it will not work | 09:39 |
| admin0 | but in a way that is transparent and works automatically out of the box, not sure .. ( maybe others will know ) | 09:39 |
| squalluca | admin0 in theory yes, but our dc have 10 islands, each with around 100 racks, it was thought to isolate l2 storms and broadcast to just a section of the dc | 09:41 |
| squalluca | @admin0 50 racks each sry | 09:41 |
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| squalluca | @admin0 the closest thing that i find that could work more or less are 'Routed provider networks', but from what i understand the segments must all have the same vlan id ( but maybe i am wrong) and it's not clear to me if i can add multiple segments to the same AZ | 09:46 |
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| admin0 | squalluca, openstack provides filtering so that user generated l2 storms ( or sniffing, snooping etc) does not hamper the network using ebtables | 10:19 |
| admin0 | you can add multiple routed provider networks and it assumes all compute nodes can reach it | 10:19 |
| admin0 | but if some are in diff island, they cannot reach .. but it will not fail either | 10:19 |
| admin0 | if its private , you can ask users to use the correct networking in the correct a-z | 10:20 |
| admin0 | so if you create 2 availability zones, say island1 and island2, create 2 provider networks, net1 and net2 .. and ask island1 users to use only net1 as net2 will not work | 10:20 |
| admin0 | but another issue is network nodes | 10:21 |
| admin0 | if a qrouter is in the wrong zone, you have to manually move it to the correct island | 10:21 |
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| squalluca | @admin0 yes, i am aware that os can prevent snooping and broadcast, but unfortunately we have other services in tha dcs, and i would probably have to kill all the network team to let me share vlans across all the dcs, they are old school :( | 10:26 |
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| squalluca | @admin0 maybe a combination of routed provided networks and neutron avaibility zones could do the trick? i was reading now about neutron azs, what i cannot grasp is, can i assign a neutron az to a Open vSwitch agent o metadata agent? | 10:28 |
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| admin0 | i think this can be solved .. | 10:46 |
| admin0 | you install openstack .. and create a-z based on which island the server is in .. | 10:47 |
| admin0 | after that, add a provider network on that specific a-z | 10:47 |
| admin0 | since the public is not shared across islands, you may not have to share your vxlan ( east-west) across a-z as well | 10:50 |
| admin0 | the only thing you share is API and maybe storage | 10:51 |
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| squalluca | @admin0 "since the public is not shared across islands, you may not have to share your vxlan ( east-west) across a-z as well" yeah that was my doubt with this solution, if sharing tenant network across azs could create some issues, or if it is even possible, btw we will probably segregate users per AZ/Cell in the first phase, but the having the | 12:28 |
| squalluca | option to allow cross az tenant traffic is something we would like in the long run | 12:28 |
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| sangeet | I am using Stein and ml2 plugin. I do not see Security Headers (X-Content-Type-Options and X-Frame-Options) in the response message. How can I get these headers in the responses from Neutron? Security Headers are defined and used for v2 api (neutron/api/v2/resources.py) but I did not see any such thing in neutron/pecan_wsgi/controllers/resource.py or neutron/plugins/ml2. Please help | 15:19 |
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| sangeet | I am using Stein and ml2 plugin. I do not see Security Headers (X-Content-Type-Options and X-Frame-Options) in the response message. How can I get these headers in the responses from Neutron? Security Headers are defined and used for v2 api (neutron/api/v2/resources.py) but I did not see any such thing in neutron/pecan_wsgi/controllers/resource.py or neutron/plugins/ml2. Please help | 15:54 |
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