Wednesday, 2020-07-15

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arturoI'm trying to understand if/how a VM can contact a floating IP. The destination VM will see packet as coming directly from the src VM and therefore reply directly, without NAT being involved. Kind of an asymmetric thing. Any hints or docs on this?10:21
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arturoI guess this would be different in a DVR setup, since the floating IP NAT would be performed in the hypervisor box, rather than in the neutron virtual router11:15
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devfazAjohn: do you have a backup of the database?12:57
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admin0arturo, a floating IP lives in the router .. the router has one public ip for itself, the .1 gateway of the private ip of the vm and the floating ip .. the internal ip and public ips are in src/dst nat15:10
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arturoadmin0: I understand that15:11
admin0you want to do a network without nat ?15:12
arturoso therefore there is a weird asymmetric routing situation if a VM contact a floating IP of another VM15:12
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admin0tcp is assymmetric .. its syn/syn-ack/ack15:13
admin0so not sure what you exactly mean my asymmetric here15:13
admin0vm1 ->  router1 ->  router2 -> vm215:13
admin0if 2 vms are in the same router  vm1 -> router1 ->vm2 , but why would you not just use the private ip in this case15:14
admin0even if they are in diff network, since the router is connected to both, it can route15:14
admin0without involving  the floating ip15:14
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DHEiirc DVR only really works for stateless routing, and NAT is not stateless and floating IPs require NAT15:17
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admin0DVR had issues when we started, so we do use compute nodes as network nodes, but not in DVR15:19
admin0also you need 3 ips for every router in every node, which is a big waste of ip addresses if using public ips directly15:21
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arturoadmin0: this diagram is what I mean: https://phab.wmfusercontent.org/file/data/hzn3aiooh4wyqnnxt3c6/PHID-FILE-squha3w5zf7f2xgcfw24/image.png16:10
arturoso both source and dst VMs live in the same subnet, but for whatever reason, we need the src VM to talk to the floating IP16:12
arturoinstead of a direct connection16:12
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admin0arturo, you want 172.16.0.231 to talk to 172.16.1.171  ?18:08
admin0and what does talk to the floating IP really mean ? its a src/dst nat18:09
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admin0lets say vm2 has a nginx running .. and you want vm1 to connect to the nginx .. you can curl vm2-private-ip or vm2-public-ip from the vm1 and that is how to decide what ip you want to talk to ?18:11
admin0because of the src/dst nat, you end up in the same nginx in the same vm18:11
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