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electrocucaracha | GM | 13:12 |
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toanster | GD | 13:14 |
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pumaranikar | good morning | 13:58 |
sarafraj | morning | 13:58 |
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izaakk | morning | 14:13 |
sigmavirus24 | Good day all | 14:15 |
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odyssey4me | o/ | 14:20 |
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jroll | mornin' | 14:25 |
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spotz | Morning gang | 14:29 |
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kencjohnston | o/ | 14:30 |
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kencjohnston | OSA Roadmap Review LInks - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-roadmap-brainstorm | 14:35 |
kencjohnston | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-roadmap-refresh | 14:35 |
kencjohnston | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-newton-summit | 14:35 |
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ski3 | join openstack-neutron | 14:37 |
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odyssey4me | thanks kencjohnston - I'm happy to field questions, comments or feedback for any of those | 14:39 |
kencjohnston | you can join our vidyo call right now... | 14:39 |
kencjohnston | ametts's room | 14:40 |
odyssey4me | although tradition demands that such things happen within the etherpad - so if anyone makes comments, etc then please feel free to ping me to let me know | 14:40 |
ametts | odyssey4me: Vidyo 2967 | 14:40 |
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homerp | my vidyo died | 14:55 |
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michaelxin | morning | 14:59 |
michaelxin | Can our Intel teammates join our internal IRC channels? | 15:00 |
michaelxin | Thanks. | 15:00 |
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kencjohnston | michaelxin - if you mean this channel then yes. | 15:03 |
jroll | michaelxin: great question, internal irc is regulated by ldap and/or network access (depending on internal or external endpoint) | 15:03 |
jroll | however osic stuff should happen in the open, on freenode | 15:03 |
kencjohnston | right, if you mean a Rax internal server, then no | 15:03 |
michaelxin | kencjohnston: Thanks. I mean Rackspace Internal channel | 15:04 |
michaelxin | Got it. | 15:04 |
michaelxin | We will just use freenode channel | 15:04 |
michaelxin | it should work | 15:04 |
johnthetubaguy | toanster: I can't make that meeting later around the roadmap, but its basically in an order already, and I think rosmaita knows the details anyways | 15:11 |
johnthetubaguy | toanster: I will try join if I get free early | 15:11 |
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toanster | johnthetubaguy: thanks! | 15:12 |
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izaakk | Hey guys, quick question. When creating new file for a patch.. at least in OSA I've seen the Apache license like: http://paste.openstack.org/show/491740/ | 15:30 |
izaakk | I've also seen Individual names instead of Rackspace, What is the way to go for OSIC developers? | 15:31 |
inc0 | izaakk, put Intel | 15:31 |
nortman | izaakk: Last time I asked that question the answer I got was that no copyright notice was needed at all, but I'm not sure that's the correct answer. | 15:31 |
inc0 | that's what I do anyway;) | 15:32 |
inc0 | nortman, for python code gate-pep8 will punch you unless you add license | 15:32 |
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dasm | good morning. | 15:33 |
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cloudnull | izaakk ++ add the intel name on the license for files you create, you can also add your name as an author if you want to. | 15:35 |
odyssey4me | to copyright notice or not is at the discretion of the person/org supplying the code - it's not required, but generally if you make a substantial contribution you are considered to have the right to add a copyright | 15:36 |
odyssey4me | there's actually a guide in one of the openstack docs | 15:36 |
izaakk | got it! will check the docs too. Thanks cloudnull inc0 odyssey4me | 15:37 |
odyssey4me | here you go: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Copyright | 15:37 |
odyssey4me | a bit more here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LegalIssuesFAQ | 15:38 |
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odyssey4me | tl/dr the copyright notices are not required, but don't hurt - the git history shows all authors and contributors, so if a dispute ever does arise then there is enough evidence to look to in order to determine whether someone contributed something to a portion of code | 15:39 |
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dolphm_bot | dolphm, jorge_munoz, xek: Keystone standup! | 16:00 |
dolphm_bot | What are you working on today, and what do you need help with? | 16:00 |
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jorge_munoz | Working on a feed reader to invalidate capstone’s cache. | 16:01 |
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lbragstad | i'm working on deploying more capstone | 16:02 |
dolphm | rderose: o/ | 16:02 |
lbragstad | moar capstone! | 16:02 |
dolphm | rderose: i put up a revised shadow user spec for newton yesterday (i think) -- have you had a chance to review that? | 16:02 |
pumaranikar | sarafraj, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-ideas. link to nova newton summit ideas shared by matt. | 16:03 |
sarafraj | johnthetubaguy: Hey John can you post vidyo link to join Nova roadmap meeting | 16:03 |
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rderose | dolphm: no, not yet. I'll take a look at it today and will work on reviews. I also have some interviews to do as well. | 16:03 |
dolphm | rderose: for keystone? :D | 16:04 |
dolphm | rderose: the spec is super short, it's just a delta from the mitaka one | 16:04 |
dstanek | i have a few more capstone things to clean off and then i'm doing keystone reviews | 16:04 |
rderose | rderose: no, not necessarily. we're trying to build up to 100 developers; mostly recent college grads. and march is a critical month, so we've been doing 3 or interviews a week. | 16:05 |
rderose | * 3 or 4 | 16:06 |
rderose | dolphm: regarding spec, cool, I like short :) | 16:06 |
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rderose | dolphm taking a quick look now | 16:07 |
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dstanek | i think i may just need to start writing down what i say in my daily standup so that i can just paste it here :-) | 16:07 |
ametts | Nova OSIC Meeting: https://vc.rackspace.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=JIER0ztwB5oAcQKcz2VTgA1kOI | 16:08 |
sarafraj | pumaranikar: Thanks | 16:09 |
rderose | dolphm: spec looks good | 16:10 |
rderose | dolphm: "5. Drop support for "federated" tokens." caught my eye | 16:11 |
dolphm_bot | Thank you, dolphm, dstanek, jorge_munoz, lbragstad, rderose! | 16:15 |
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dolphm | rderose: i.e. the federated token format in fernet (and uuid, etc) | 16:15 |
dolphm | rderose: with local identities, we don't need to convey in the token that the user authenticated via federation | 16:16 |
rderose | dolphm: ah, that makes sense | 16:16 |
* lbragstad can't wait for that to happen | 16:16 | |
pdardeau | keystone guys - swift will likely be soon working on some keystone/swift integration pain points. just mentioning as fyi (nothing needed at the moment) | 16:17 |
* dolphm appreciates being looped in early though, pdardeau :) | 16:18 | |
lbragstad | pdardeau awesome - let us know if you need anything | 16:18 |
rderose | dolphm: so user authenticates, rules applied; mapping evaluated, and then treated like any other user | 16:18 |
dstanek | pdardeau: nice. i echo what dolphm and lbragstad said | 16:18 |
rderose | dolphm: right? | 16:18 |
dolphm | rderose: correct | 16:18 |
dolphm | rderose: normal token, no federated payload | 16:18 |
dolphm | rderose: and no groups in the token | 16:19 |
lbragstad | rderose yeah - the role assignments are applied through groups assignments | 16:19 |
rderose | dolphm: nice :) | 16:19 |
rderose | lbragstad: right | 16:20 |
rderose | dolphm lbragstad lots of code to cleanup, should look pretty nice when we are done :) | 16:21 |
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dolphm | rderose: ++ | 16:21 |
lbragstad | rderose i can't wait for the day | 16:21 |
rderose | lbragstad: haha | 16:22 |
rderose | lbragstad or dolphm one thing I'm noticing in the code is, it looks like user can authenticate with certificate and be federated | 16:26 |
rderose | is that right? | 16:26 |
rderose | keystone/common/tokenless_auth.py | 16:26 |
lbragstad | rderose I haven't tried that | 16:27 |
dolphm | rderose: that's a new feature from the last release or two - i haven't played with it either | 16:27 |
dolphm | rderose: it's a form of external auth | 16:27 |
rderose | lbragstad: okay, yeah, ran into when trying to remove ephemeral user type | 16:28 |
dolphm | rderose: which i think uses the mapping engine. calling it "federated" is odd, i think | 16:28 |
rderose | dolphm: yeah, that it seemed odd as well | 16:28 |
rderose | * though it | 16:28 |
rderose | *thought | 16:28 |
rderose | man, I'm tired, took my daughter to the airport at 3 AM, can't type | 16:29 |
dolphm | rderose: are you back in SA? | 16:30 |
rderose | not until Tues | 16:30 |
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rderose | I've probably gained about 10 lbs. My wife's aunt is here and she's been cooking up a storm. She doesn't speak English and when asked me something I don't understand, I just say "si" and she brings more food. | 16:32 |
rderose | :) | 16:32 |
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electrocucaracha | rderose, it could be worse if you say "mas, por favor" | 17:33 |
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johnthetubaguy | sarafraj: hey, sorry, only just spotted your note, I had a clash myself :( | 17:49 |
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kencjohnston | Hi OSIC Team, I have a quick request for you all | 18:29 |
kencjohnston | The marketing folks are making t-shirts for the summit | 18:29 |
kencjohnston | and trying to think of words to put on them | 18:29 |
kencjohnston | right now the best they've got is "OSIC: Built for Scale" whicih I"m not very satisfied with | 18:29 |
inc0 | <3 VMWare | 18:30 |
kencjohnston | Can you guys throw out some other ones (and please no Boaty McBoatFace) | 18:30 |
kencjohnston | and I'll send around a poll so the team can vote. | 18:30 |
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kencjohnston | We need to get them a response by tomorrow end of day | 18:30 |
kencjohnston | inc0 don't we all... | 18:31 |
kencjohnston | This is your opportunity to not have to wear a lame t-shirt... | 18:32 |
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inc0 | how about we make image of a conductor standing on one leg, on wobbly chair over pool with sharks, conducting with one hand and spinning a plate in the other | 18:34 |
spotz | kencjohnston OSIC: Community through Partnership? | 18:34 |
spotz | inc0 You need gators.. Just saying | 18:35 |
inc0 | gators will work as well | 18:35 |
inc0 | or pirannias | 18:35 |
inc0 | or better | 18:35 |
inc0 | let's make it a lava pit | 18:35 |
spotz | inc0 that does work with Texas summers:) | 18:36 |
inc0 | and guy with OSIC on tshirt will run toward him with a fire extinguisher | 18:36 |
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inc0 | you get my drift | 18:37 |
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inc0 | or just say on the bottom "They said migrate to Neutron..." | 18:39 |
inc0 | It will be fun they said | 18:39 |
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jroll | lol | 18:55 |
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spotz | inc0 hehehe | 19:04 |
odyssey4me | 'nova-net is my safe word' ? | 19:30 |
odyssey4me | that's cloudnull's favourite one :) | 19:31 |
ankurgupta1 | Open Stack Is Cool | 19:33 |
spotz | OOh Opening the Stack for everyone? | 19:34 |
ankurgupta1 | #Feel the Bern | 19:34 |
spotz | hrm Feel the Neutron Heat of the Nova on the Horizon | 19:35 |
ankurgupta1 | Drumpf uses AWS | 19:35 |
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kencjohnston | I just want you all to realize that this is why we can't have nice things :) | 19:36 |
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spotz | I thought we were doing pretty good kencjohnston! Ok except odyssey4me:) | 19:37 |
kencjohnston | I starting to wonder if you have an accurate definition of "good" | 19:37 |
ankurgupta1 | [O]pen [S]tack [I]ntel ra[C]kspace | 19:38 |
spotz | *hrmphs* | 19:38 |
spotz | Ok Stacky McStackyFace it is! | 19:39 |
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kencjohnston | spotz now we are talking. | 19:41 |
kencjohnston | I actually kinda like "Stacky McStackFace"... | 19:42 |
inc0 | Stacky McStackFace wins for me as well | 19:43 |
kencjohnston | Maybe something like, "We all voted and decided to put "Stacky McStackFace" on this t-shirt." | 19:43 |
spotz | I win!:) | 19:43 |
* kencjohnston reminds himself that spotz always wins. | 19:44 | |
spotz | Sweet I feel the love:) | 19:44 |
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hockeynut | + oo for Stacky McStackFace | 19:47 |
ankurgupta1 | "OSAD makes deployment NOSAD" i think i saw that somewhere | 19:48 |
palendae | ankurgupta1: Yes, that was the old RPC US team shirt :) | 19:48 |
ankurgupta1 | haha awesome. I wish Intel had a stronger t-shirt game. | 19:49 |
spotz | t-shirts are fun! | 19:50 |
odyssey4me | Stacky McStackFace gets my vote :D | 19:51 |
odyssey4me | spotz wins! | 19:51 |
ankurgupta1 | kencjohnston: something I saw at a conference last summer that was cool was putting each persons IRC nick on the back of the shirt. | 19:52 |
inc0 | that actually would be super useful | 19:53 |
spotz | +1 ankurgupta1 I wish they'd be on our conference badges. I've aded it to my name in gerrit so people can find me | 19:54 |
kencjohnston | ankurgupta1 Do we also get numbers? | 19:54 |
kencjohnston | I like the idea | 19:54 |
spotz | That's how everyone knows everybody. I introduce myself and also give my nick | 19:55 |
ankurgupta1 | its a good icebreaker since people don't know faces necessarily but know IRC nicks | 19:55 |
spotz | *nodnods* | 19:55 |
spotz | I should just wear Dalmatian stuff every day and see if anyone catches on... | 20:00 |
inc0 | last person who wanted to wear dalmatians stuff didn't end well....watch 101 dalmatians... | 20:05 |
spotz | heheh | 20:05 |
sigmavirus24 | "Feel the slow heat death of the universe" (coming into a conversation about 30 minutes late) | 20:06 |
inc0 | slow heat death...well | 20:08 |
inc0 | heat usually dies pretty fast | 20:08 |
sigmavirus24 | only if your cloud can handle it | 20:08 |
sigmavirus24 | *can't | 20:08 |
spotz | I was trying to put together a coherent sentence using OpenStack Projects:) | 20:09 |
sigmavirus24 | it's ironic, isn't it, a cloud not being able to handle orchestration at cloud scale | 20:09 |
spotz | And yet Stacky McStackface is a favorite | 20:09 |
sigmavirus24 | maybe we just need better projects to rally around | 20:09 |
sigmavirus24 | we could take a glance at other communities | 20:09 |
inc0 | let's not use glance for it as well:P | 20:09 |
rosmaita | +1 | 20:09 |
inc0 | heat will be better soon tho | 20:10 |
inc0 | convergence might change a lot | 20:10 |
sigmavirus24 | inc0: oh how young you must be ;) | 20:10 |
sigmavirus24 | rosmaita: do people ever actually use glance? | 20:10 |
sigmavirus24 | or do they just throw all their junk into it | 20:10 |
rosmaita | nobody uses glance! ask jay pipes | 20:10 |
rosmaita | sigmavirus24: speaking of glance, i have a image question for you | 20:11 |
* sigmavirus24 runs | 20:11 | |
sigmavirus24 | what's up? | 20:11 |
inc0 | truth be told...glance can be just glorified proxy for swift | 20:11 |
inc0 | or ceph | 20:11 |
inc0 | but that being said...so is cinder | 20:11 |
rosmaita | we use vhd for xen server, and have to keep tight track of the min_disk on the image | 20:11 |
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rosmaita | so if a user resizes server from 20G disk to 40G, the resulting snapshot has to have min_disk 40 | 20:12 |
rosmaita | but i think that's becasue of the way vhds get resized | 20:12 |
rosmaita | wondering if that's just vhds, or other formats too | 20:12 |
rosmaita | figure you might know, since you don't use vhd in private cloud | 20:13 |
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sigmavirus24 | rosmaita: I have 0 clues | 20:16 |
rosmaita | ok, just thought i'd ask | 20:18 |
rosmaita | thanks | 20:18 |
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sigmavirus24 | Sorry :/ Generally private cloud customers seem to have very few problems with glance & snapshots from what I know so | 20:24 |
sigmavirus24 | I haven't had the privilege of digging too much into anything along those lines | 20:24 |
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rosmaita | sigmavirus24: glad to hear about people having few problems with glance! | 20:28 |
sigmavirus24 | Me too | 20:28 |
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ntpttr | ankurgupta1: do OSIC alumni get shirts | 20:35 |
anush | +1 for the nick idea | 20:36 |
sigmavirus24 | I can imagine someone turning around to me "Wait.. is that really your nick? What's wrong with you?" | 20:37 |
sigmavirus24 | (Assuming remotes get tees) | 20:37 |
anush | that'll be fun sigmavirus24 | 20:38 |
sigmavirus24 | I met someone at a conference once. They didn't recognize my real name until they saw my twitter handle/irc nick on my badge and then they got upset that I didn't tell them who I was | 20:38 |
anush | LOL | 20:40 |
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sigmavirus24 | They were giving me crap for not using my twitter display name at the time for my real name portion | 20:42 |
sigmavirus24 | Because they would have recognized that too | 20:42 |
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spotz | We all know each other by nick but then the non-IRC community goes what'a nick? | 20:54 |
sigmavirus24 | "What is a spotz?" "It's my openstack security number" | 20:56 |
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