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| dasm | morning | 15:07 |
| ankur-gupta-f | dasm: good morning sunshine | 15:10 |
| dasm | ankur-gupta-f: what do you want? | 15:12 |
| ankur-gupta-f | coffee, a nice doughnut, possibly a reclining chair | 15:13 |
| dasm | ankur-gupta-f: i'm on it! | 15:13 |
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| inc0 | ntpttr bluex ping | 16:42 |
| inc0 | (any other cinder folks around?) | 16:42 |
| ntpttr | hi inc0 | 16:43 |
| ntpttr | karthikp ^ | 16:43 |
| karthikp | ntpttr: Hi | 16:43 |
| inc0 | I wanted to discuss potential of upstream changes to mitigate this long-running backup thing | 16:43 |
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| karthikp | ntpttr: wassup | 16:43 |
| inc0 | we can move to #openstack-cinder with it | 16:43 |
| ntpttr | karthikp: we're talking about upgrades, and running processes that take a while like backups during them | 16:44 |
| ntpttr | inc0: good idea | 16:44 |
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| karthikp | ntpttr: on cinder channel? | 16:45 |
| ntpttr | karthikp: inc0 is starting the conversation now. I brought it up in #openstack-kolla at first | 16:46 |
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| karthikp | ntpttr: cool ..checking it now..thanks | 16:48 |
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| ntpttr | inc0: looks like the cinder channel is a bit of a ghost town right now :) | 16:52 |
| inc0 | yeah | 16:53 |
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| karthikp | inc0: ntpttr: we had discussed in newton mid cycle about c-data services | 17:28 |
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| inc0 | karthikp so this really boils down to HA | 17:29 |
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| karthikp | a separate process for handling the data component of backup and migrate action on volumes.... | 17:29 |
| inc0 | if you don't have any mechanism to heal up after service death | 17:29 |
| inc0 | it's bad. | 17:29 |
| karthikp | bluex: can you weigh in on this?? | 17:30 |
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| inc0 | dolphm, ping | 17:40 |
| dolphm | inc0: o/ | 17:42 |
| inc0 | dolphm, take a look on discussion above | 17:42 |
| inc0 | something to put on upgrades roadmap I guess | 17:42 |
| inc0 | we need to take careful look at really really long running rasks in OpenStack | 17:42 |
| inc0 | tasks* | 17:42 |
| inc0 | we need to figure out a plan that every task can be killed in a finite (and relatively short) amount of time | 17:43 |
| karthikp | inc0: not really! HA is for cinder-volume. backup has no HA as far i know! ntpttr | 17:43 |
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| karthikp | ntpttr: correct me if i am wrong! | 17:43 |
| inc0 | karthikp yaaay.... | 17:43 |
| karthikp | inc0: :D | 17:44 |
| ntpttr | karthikp: as far as I know I think you're right, though bluex would know better for that | 17:44 |
| inc0 | sooo my dear OSIC cinder team | 17:44 |
| inc0 | I have a feature to propose... | 17:44 |
| inc0 | kencjohnston, ^ | 17:44 |
| inc0 | quickest way to ensure some measure of success would be just retry mechanism | 17:45 |
| kencjohnston | inc0: Add it to the Cinder Trello board? | 17:52 |
| inc0 | trello? we still use trello?;) | 17:53 |
| ankur-gupta-f | inc0: I was just gonna ask that | 17:53 |
| ankur-gupta-f | haha | 17:53 |
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| electrocucaracha | inc0: why no? | 18:09 |
| inc0 | electrocucaracha, well, for one we moved to jira | 18:10 |
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| irtermite | "we", inc0? | 18:33 |
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| dolphm | anush anush_ anush__ johnthetubaguy: asserts:supports-zero-downtime-upgrade https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372686/ | 18:34 |
| anush_ | lol i have so many nicks now | 18:34 |
| anush_ | thanks dolphm | 18:34 |
| inc0 | irtermite, ops team | 18:34 |
| irtermite | got ya | 18:35 |
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| inc0 | dolphm, ks will have this tag right? | 18:36 |
| inc0 | also out of curiosity, is there anything special to upgrade keystone? Or just migrate-db with all ks running, upgrade one ks service at the time, profit | 18:36 |
| odyssey4me | inc0 it depends on the version of keystone - I'm guessing that you missed the ML discussions about the new Newton process | 18:37 |
| dolphm | inc0: yes | 18:39 |
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| dolphm | inc0: starting with newton->ocata | 18:39 |
| dolphm | inc0: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/upgrading.html#upgrading-without-downtime | 18:39 |
| inc0 | ok, thanks, I'll make sure to include this procedure in Kolla in early O | 18:41 |
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| nikhil | ccneill: please ask sabari or flaper87 on #openstack-glance | 21:56 |
| ccneill | thanks nikhil! | 21:56 |
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