| *** LarsErik1 is now known as LarsErikP | 08:07 | |
| LarsErikP | Hi! Where are we on Puppet Core vs OpenVox etc.? Is there any.. officialy stand and/or plans? | 08:53 |
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| LarsErikP | tkajinam: ^ | 09:08 |
| tobias-urdin | LarsErikP: tkajinam did add openvox integration on master a while back https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/+/957293 | 11:11 |
| tobias-urdin | no real plan other than supporting it and if we find anything fix it i guess | 11:12 |
| LarsErikP | great. that sounds to me like going for OpenVox from puppet7, rather than throwing money after Perdue should be a safe choice, openstack-wise | 12:28 |
| tkajinam | I attempted migrating the remaining jobs to puppet but the current blocker is puppetlabs-mysql doing ugly things in its provider and does not run properly in beaker tests | 12:30 |
| tkajinam | the biggest concern atm is that our module depends on puppetlabs-mysql and puppetlabs-apache which are almost abandoned and these are blocking various things (like migration to c10s) | 12:30 |
| tkajinam | LarsErikP, tobias-urdin ^^^ | 12:32 |
| tkajinam | https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-mysql/pull/1687 | 12:33 |
| tkajinam | https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-mysql/pull/1686 | 12:33 |
| tobias-urdin | tkajinam: ack | 12:33 |
| LarsErikP | right | 12:34 |
| tobias-urdin | LarsErikP: yea, openvox was forked from puppet 8 so just make sure you've support for your stuff with puppet 8 and you should be fine moving directly | 12:34 |
| tkajinam | correction: migrating remaining jobs to "openvox" | 12:34 |
| tkajinam | the above concern is not only about openvox support but also affects our long term maintenance. | 12:35 |
| tkajinam | c9s is no longer compatible with latest OpenStack due to python 3.9 support removed and we expect new ubuntu LTS coming soon but idk if the core puppet and the modules in puppetlabs org can be updated timely | 12:35 |
| LarsErikP | tobias-urdin: yeah. it will be a journey :P But certainly something we have to do sooner rather than later | 12:35 |
| tkajinam | given the fact that some of these are completely broken in c10s | 12:36 |
| tobias-urdin | tkajinam: any news from voxpupuli if they are going to fork those modules? | 12:36 |
| tkajinam | tobias-urdin, not really. the initial reaction there is "if you want more then support us" | 12:36 |
| tkajinam | you know what "support" means. they are not asking individual contribution | 12:36 |
| tkajinam | so honestly speaking I'm almost stuck about it :-( | 12:37 |
| tobias-urdin | ack, i understand not much to do since the ecosystem is slowly dying | 12:38 |
| LarsErikP | this is.. alarming | 12:39 |
| LarsErikP | gg Perdue | 12:39 |
| tkajinam | :-( | 12:41 |
| LarsErikP | how is the general feeling for the future here? Don't want to sound or be too pessimistic, but I have to admint that I'm a litte bit afraid of what's going to happen with puppet-openstack here.. | 12:43 |
| tkajinam | personally I'd like to maintain the project as much as I can, but the recent trend in underlying ecosystem (not only puppet but also rdo) has been making it harder and harder these days | 12:58 |
| tkajinam | and, my own work has been all voluntary-bassis these days I'd admit that I may hit the wall sometime soon unless these ecosystem problems can be somehow settled (or eased, at least) | 12:58 |
| tobias-urdin | yea, there is multiple factors where which makes it a PITA and nothing you'd really want to spend time on | 13:04 |
| LarsErikP | I see. Damnit, it hurts hearing this :/ | 13:05 |
| tobias-urdin | tkajinam: be careful and don't take on anything that puts you down, it's not worth it... more important for you to not the wall | 13:06 |
| LarsErikP | This has been such an awesome and helpful project for over a decade <3 | 13:06 |
| tobias-urdin | tkajinam: tbh, if modules are blocking you we could just pin those to your forks and live with it until we have a better plan | 13:06 |
| tobias-urdin | i assume we have to nuke rdo at some point, perhaps we can live (by testing atleast) with ubuntu | 13:07 |
| tobias-urdin | but not a bright future | 13:07 |
| LarsErikP | would work for us; we're running ubuntu :P But yeah, far from optimal I guess | 13:08 |
| LarsErikP | context - we're running one of largest (if not the largest) deployments in Norway - University sector | 13:09 |
| LarsErikP | And for sure, what tobias-urdin said on the human level here. Not worth taking on anything that makes you hit the wall <3 | 13:10 |
| tkajinam | yeah we could survive with ubuntu... until next lts arrives | 13:14 |
| tkajinam | yeah I can try forks at least to check whether that PR may resolve our problem, but that's a kind of quick patching for short-term | 13:15 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration master: DNM: testing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/+/974878 | 14:57 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration master: Add jobs with OpenVox https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/+/960978 | 14:59 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/puppet-openstack-integration master: DNM: testing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/+/974878 | 14:59 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/puppet-openstack_spec_helper master: dnm: Test acceptnce helper https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/puppet-openstack_spec_helper/+/961286 | 15:00 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/puppet-nova master: DNM: testing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/puppet-nova/+/974889 | 15:40 |
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