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| number80 | wow, we haven't updated pymod2pkg since inclusion upstream :( | 06:08 |
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| jpena | good morning | 07:10 |
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| number80 | o/ | 07:18 |
| number80 | jpena: what's left to support rpm-packaging after https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1346/ ? | 07:19 |
| jpena | number80: just having openstack-macros somewhere in the dlrn deps repo, and we should be good to go | 07:19 |
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| number80 | jpena: ack | 07:21 |
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| amoralej | good morning | 07:30 |
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| jpena | amoralej: did we remove commits for keystonemiddleware yesterday (in trunk.rdo)? | 07:33 |
| amoralej | i'm checking the status | 07:33 |
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| jpena | we've got a broken python-keystonemiddleware package in current-passed-ci | 07:34 |
| amoralej | i guess we'll have to create rpm-liberty with ^ | 07:34 |
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| jpena | amoralej: the liberty packages are failing due to the i18n fixes, right? | 07:35 |
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| amoralej | i guess so | 07:35 |
| jpena | I'll create the rpm-liberty branches, np | 07:35 |
| amoralej | but couldn't check yet | 07:35 |
| jpena | but first I want to fix the current-passed-ci repo | 07:36 |
| amoralej | let me see the issue with keystonemiddleware | 07:36 |
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| number80 | jpena: you weren't there but EmilienM asked us to pin keystonemiddleware to 4.5.1 yesterday | 07:39 |
| number80 | and while apevec was doing it, the fix was submitted to review, so he undid it | 07:39 |
| number80 | amoralej: ^ | 07:39 |
| jpena | number80: but doing so by deleting a commit in "SUCCESS" causes this kind of issues (it's like feeding a gremlin after midnight :D) | 07:39 |
| amoralej | yes i've seen the pin and revert | 07:40 |
| number80 | jpena: maybe, I'm not sure how it was done on the server | 07:40 |
| amoralej | we should look for a cleanest solution for this "pin commit" cases | 07:40 |
| number80 | +1 | 07:40 |
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| number80 | what about having a dlrn pin command? | 07:41 |
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| number80 | You pin a build and only ship this one in generated repo until we unpin it | 07:41 |
| amoralej | i was thinking of adding a commit: option in rdoinfo for tags | 07:41 |
| amoralej | to pin | 07:41 |
| amoralej | in packages | 07:42 |
| number80 | works too | 07:42 |
| amoralej | and in that case check that the latest build is for that commit | 07:42 |
| number80 | I'd like keeping building commits and just override whatever we ship in repositories | 07:42 |
| amoralej | yeap, sounds better | 07:43 |
| number80 | sounds we have a volunteer for that task :) | 07:43 |
| jpena | keep on building seems to break less stuff in the db area, however that should not touch earlier repos, so any current-passed-ci would not be affected | 07:44 |
| amoralej | yeap, maybe it's time to start learning DLRN... | 07:44 |
| amoralej | but if we keep building on new commits for pinned-packages, those shouldn't get the consistent link, or something like that | 07:45 |
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| number80 | amoralej: in absolute correctness yes, but we pin package to have working repo for current-passed-ci so it implies that these would still have to get consistent link | 07:47 |
| number80 | or we'd have to hack the symlink policy too | 07:47 |
| amoralej | i mean, let's assume we pin openstack-nova to xxx | 07:48 |
| * number80 reads | 07:48 | |
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| amoralej | the repo for any build for other package should have the link to openstack-nova-xxx and get consisteng | 07:48 |
| amoralej | consistent, no problem | 07:49 |
| amoralej | but if we keep building for openstack-nova-xxx +1 | 07:49 |
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| amoralej | that repo, shouldn't be used for promotions, right? | 07:49 |
| amoralej | shouldn't be considered consistent | 07:50 |
| number80 | right if the last build is openstack-nova | 07:50 |
| amoralej | exactly | 07:50 |
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| amoralej | jpena, all issues with liberty are because of i18n, we need to create rpm-liberty | 07:52 |
| jpena | it might be easier if we took another route. Let's assume those cases should be rare. We could fix it by temporarily taking that package out of rdoinfo (tag: to-fix), then add a working package to an "overrides" repo, that is included as part of delorean-deps.repo | 07:52 |
| jpena | it could be easier than hacking dlrn for something against its purpose | 07:53 |
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| number80 | jpena: that's much simpler | 07:53 |
| jpena | amoralej: yep, I'm creating the branches | 07:53 |
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| amoralej | thx | 07:53 |
| number80 | jpena, amoralej: should we add it to the meeting agenda? | 07:53 |
| amoralej | yes | 07:54 |
| jpena | number80: yes, let's do it | 07:54 |
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| number80 | Added => https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 07:56 |
| number80 | feel free to modify it | 07:56 |
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| jaosorior | Hey guys, I'm seeing a bunch of errors like this: | 08:09 |
| jaosorior | Error: Execution of '/bin/yum -d 0 -e 0 -y install openstack-glance' returned 1: Delta RPMs disabled because /usr/bin/applydeltarpm not installed | 08:09 |
| jaosorior | with several openstack packages | 08:09 |
| jaosorior | I installed deltarpm | 08:09 |
| jaosorior | and now I'm seeing stuff like: | 08:10 |
| jaosorior | Error: Execution of '/bin/yum -d 0 -e 0 -y install openstack-ironic-common' returned 1: No Presto metadata available for delorean | 08:10 |
| jaosorior | This is happening in the TripleO CI | 08:10 |
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| jaosorior | any idea what could be causing this or how to fix it? | 08:10 |
| jpena | jaosorior: is that using Mitaka or master? | 08:10 |
| jaosorior | master | 08:10 |
| jpena | I think I know the reason, it's the same python-keystonemiddleware problem we were having in current-passed-ci | 08:11 |
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| jpena | let me fix it | 08:11 |
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| jpena | jaosorior: it should be ok now. Could you recheck one of the jobs and see if it works now? | 08:13 |
| jaosorior | jpena: Is there anything we should do in our side? | 08:13 |
| jaosorior | lets see | 08:13 |
| jaosorior | jpena: so is deltarpm needed? | 08:14 |
| jpena | jaosorior: just recheck. We did a change yesterday that broke some repos | 08:14 |
| jpena | jaosorior: no, that should be just a warning message. The real issue is different | 08:14 |
| jaosorior | jpena | 08:14 |
| jaosorior | ok | 08:14 |
| jaosorior | thanks a lot, I'll let you know if it worked | 08:14 |
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| mrunge | deltarpm should not be needed anyways | 08:23 |
| mrunge | that will save you time, when you have a sloooow link, but otherwise one can even disable the deltarpm check | 08:24 |
| number80 | easy review from someone familiar w/ RDO packages => https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332249/ | 08:24 |
| number80 | (basically, checking that packages epoch are properly set) | 08:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/packstack: Enable heat-cfn installation by default https://review.openstack.org/330977 | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Javier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Refactor manifest execution https://review.openstack.org/329505 | 09:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Javier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Create Gnocchi legacy resources https://review.openstack.org/330478 | 09:54 |
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| number80 | thanks amoralej, jpena | 09:56 |
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| number80 | btw, openstack-macros is now in common-testing | 09:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Javier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Refactor manifest execution https://review.openstack.org/329505 | 10:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Javier Peña proposed openstack/packstack: Create Gnocchi legacy resources https://review.openstack.org/330478 | 10:50 |
| number80 | apevec, amoralej: I added openstack-macros in buildroot topic in today's meeting | 10:51 |
| apevec | thanks! | 10:51 |
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| number80 | I'm preparing a patch to allow renderspec to control common bare buildrequires such as this ones more elegantly | 10:52 |
| apevec | amoralej, keystonemw issue should've been fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332459/ - has that hit rdo trunk repo? | 10:52 |
| amoralej | yes | 10:52 |
| amoralej | in fact, last promote jobs run succeed all puppet jobs | 10:52 |
| amoralej | only the tripleo issue is open | 10:53 |
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| number80 | apevec: btw, second opinion needed on this review +> https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/1346/ | 10:54 |
| amoralej | and for the osc issue it's close, i tested today last proposed patch set and works fine, but it's not merged yet | 10:54 |
| apevec | cool | 10:55 |
| apevec | 3o is that heat thing? | 10:55 |
| amoralej | yeap | 10:55 |
| apevec | so only 3. is left open in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/delorean_master_current_issues | 10:55 |
| amoralej | yes | 10:55 |
| apevec | hmm 2x +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332446 | 10:56 |
| amoralej | hopefully, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332446 will fix it... | 10:56 |
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| apevec | uhm tripleoci failing | 10:56 |
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| apevec | what was the issue w/ rdo repos? | 10:57 |
| * number80 likes the topic | 10:57 | |
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| apevec | hehe https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:it-worked-in-devstack | 10:57 |
| amoralej | well, the keystonemw pin from yesterday | 10:57 |
| apevec | there must be more ! | 10:57 |
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| amoralej | broke symlinks | 10:57 |
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| apevec | let's document that topic | 10:57 |
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| amoralej | for current-passed-ci and current-tripleo | 10:57 |
| amoralej | we've added to today's meeting agenda | 10:58 |
| amoralej | we need something better | 10:58 |
| apevec | amoralej, uh crap, yes, it has rebuilt old commits with current dist hash :( | 10:58 |
| amoralej | the problem is that it's the same dist hash | 10:58 |
| amoralej | but diferent date | 10:58 |
| amoralej | so it overwrithe old builds | 10:58 |
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| amoralej | overwrite | 10:59 |
| jpena | yep, the golden rule is "never delete a successful commit" | 11:00 |
| amoralej | something that should work is create a new dummy commit in distgit before "unpining" | 11:00 |
| apevec | amoralej, yeah, in case of passed it was the same dist but still timestamp | 11:01 |
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| amoralej | but we need to get a better solution | 11:01 |
| amoralej | i think the one jpena proposed is the simplest | 11:01 |
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| number80 | *nods* | 11:02 |
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| sshnaidm_ | jpena, hi | 11:17 |
| jpena | hi sshnaidm_ | 11:18 |
| sshnaidm_ | jpena, could you tell please what was wrong with repos today morning? | 11:18 |
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| jpena | sshnaidm_ sure. We are having an issue with the openstackclient that required us to temporarily pin to an older version of keystonemiddleware (https://github.com/redhat-openstack/rdoinfo/commit/b4db304e973fe7e8043c2eac2fcc1b91d9c3b005) | 11:19 |
| jpena | actually, we *were* having an issue, not anymore | 11:19 |
| EmilienM | hello | 11:20 |
| amoralej | o/ | 11:20 |
| EmilienM | amoralej: therve fixed keystonemiddleware, patch was merged, we should be good | 11:20 |
| jpena | so long story short, while trying to force that version in the repos, that forced rebuild of some old keystonemiddleware packages, and that broke the repos containing them | 11:20 |
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| jpena | sshnaidm_ so CIs relying on current-passed-ci or current-tripleo failed when installing a package that depended on python-keystonemiddleware | 11:21 |
| amoralej | yes, we are EmilienM | 11:21 |
| EmilienM | amoralej: but last night I tried latest repos and keystonemiddleware was pin so I gave up | 11:22 |
| EmilienM | can I try again today? | 11:22 |
| sshnaidm_ | jpena, I see, it's a pity we didn't know about that.. Is there a way to alert about repositories problem? To save time for unnecessary reproducing and investigations | 11:22 |
| amoralej | you mean the promotion pipeline? | 11:23 |
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| amoralej | the keystonemw was unpinned and package built | 11:23 |
| amoralej | https://ci.centos.org/job/weirdo-master-promote-puppet-openstack-scenario001/289/ | 11:23 |
| amoralej | this was with latest | 11:23 |
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| jpena | sshnaidm_ maybe an email to rdo-list with a specific topic would work. wdyt? | 11:24 |
| EmilienM | amoralej: ack, will try again | 11:25 |
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| EmilienM | amoralej: it seems like it works https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328591/ | 11:25 |
| sshnaidm_ | jpena, sure, something visible, i.e. "[ALERT] [RDO repo]" | 11:25 |
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| EmilienM | amoralej: all 3 jobs we care don't fail anymre | 11:26 |
| jpena | sshnaidm_ ok, let me add this as a topic for today's meeting, in case someone else can think of an automated way to do it | 11:26 |
| sshnaidm_ | jpena, cool, thanks! | 11:26 |
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| amoralej | i tested with a packstack install and was fine too | 11:26 |
| number80 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332758/1 <= I started with these ones | 11:30 |
| number80 | the provides macros is not suitable yet to be upstreamed | 11:30 |
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| tristanC | apevec: misc: that makes sense, letsencrypt do have some tricky caveats and afaik, it's broken for old system (it needs a recent glibc iirc) | 11:38 |
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| flepied | trown|outtypewww: jschlueter: I have added a countdown and the count of issues with a link to the RDO dashboard too: http://46.231.133.253:3030/rdo-dev | 11:47 |
| jschlueter | flepied: cool | 11:48 |
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| jschlueter | flepied: any luck getting a more permanent home with a domain name for the dashboard? | 11:48 |
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| flepied | misc: ^^ | 11:48 |
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| apevec | number80, you could add macros which work for rdo as macros.openstack-rdo, there's already openstack-macros/macros.openstack-suse | 11:55 |
| apevec | then we move them to common when there's consensus | 11:55 |
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| apevec | vs blocking on consensus | 11:56 |
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| apevec | flepied, jschlueter - the only thing now blocking rdo trunk master promotion is https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:it-worked-in-devstack | 11:56 |
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| misc | jschlueter: still didn't had time to look at it | 11:58 |
| number80 | apevec: ack, this is the fallback option | 11:58 |
| EmilienM | apevec: fyi, puppet CI should promote today if not this morning | 11:58 |
| number80 | but I'd like those to get into spec templates | 11:59 |
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| * bkero notices that we're missing a python-keystonemiddleware in the repos that I'm trying | 12:03 | |
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| apevec | EmilienM, so puppet-heat CI is not hitting that heat issue which breaks tripleo pingtest? | 12:03 |
| EmilienM | bkero: fixed now | 12:03 |
| bkero | EmilienM: Oh? Thanks! | 12:03 |
| EmilienM | apevec: no | 12:03 |
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| EmilienM | apevec: we run tempest smoke and it seems like all is passin | 12:03 |
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| EmilienM | apevec: pingtest does something special, that I can't tell atm | 12:04 |
| bkero | EmilienM: in 9e2897e0e? | 12:04 |
| apevec | bkero, which repos are you trying? | 12:05 |
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| apevec | fixed build should be in latest "consistent" | 12:05 |
| bkero | apevec: trunk.r.o/centos7-master/9e/28/9e2897e0... and buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/x86_64/openstack-newton | 12:05 |
| apevec | where did you get that repo url from? | 12:06 |
| apevec | latest consistent is http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7/aa/cc/aacc9c327cb3c2759d894faa2bde91e2d747c168_3a5983a8 | 12:06 |
| bkero | https://github.com/openstack/puppet-openstack-integration/blob/master/manifests/repos.pp#L33 | 12:06 |
| apevec | https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-master/consistent/delorean.repo | 12:06 |
| apevec | bkero, ah that's old, EmilienM has refresh coming | 12:07 |
| bkero | Yep, I believe that's what he was saying | 12:07 |
| apevec | 9e2898e0 us Jun 10 | 12:08 |
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| apevec | EmilienM, one idea to throw around: I see openstack-ansible is branchless i.e. works with multiple openstack release, is there a plan for openstack/puppet going branchless? | 12:12 |
| EmilienM | no | 12:12 |
| apevec | I'm entertaining idea making packstack branchless | 12:13 |
| EmilienM | we had this discussion 10 times with our community | 12:13 |
| EmilienM | and this is not possible | 12:13 |
| apevec | how does ansible do it? | 12:13 |
| EmilienM | apevec: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/puppet-openstack-specs/specs/kilo/master-policy.html | 12:13 |
| EmilienM | I don't know but this is not how we do | 12:13 |
| EmilienM | we have the same release cycle as other OpenStack projects, and everything works like this, specially our CI | 12:14 |
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| bkero | What would be gained by getting rid of branches? | 12:17 |
| EmilienM | nothing but pain for our group, we just won't do it | 12:19 |
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| EmilienM | ask the same question to tripleo | 12:19 |
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| EmilienM | config changes at every release, without branch it's impossible to support stable releases | 12:19 |
| EmilienM | and until now we're pretty damn good at it | 12:20 |
| bkero | Right, I'm wondering why it would be desired to get rid of branches | 12:20 |
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| apevec | bkero, using same installer to install multiple releases | 12:26 |
| apevec | I think tripleo has that RFE | 12:26 |
| bkero | This sounds like moving the complexity from 1 installer to N projects | 12:27 |
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| EmilienM | apevec: the RFE is about "n can deploy n-1" | 12:29 |
| EmilienM | apevec: and with our puppet modules, you can do it, but we don't garantee it works. WHat we garantee is the puppet interface (parameters) that keep backward compatibility | 12:29 |
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| apevec | how does it work ? parallel installable puppet-* RPMs ? | 12:31 |
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| bkero | The RPMs don't support parallel installation. | 12:37 |
| bkero | The packages are 'puppet-nova', not 'puppet-nova-mitaka' | 12:38 |
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| bkero | Man that repo link changes so much | 12:45 |
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| bkero | I'm wondering why we just don't wget the repo URL into /etc/yum.repos.d/ I guess it would create some ambiguity, and if it's broken it will break tests. | 12:46 |
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| apevec | bkero, supported way is to wget delorean.repo | 12:47 |
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| apevec | that one has fixed hashed repourl | 12:48 |
| bkero | Yup | 12:48 |
| bkero | I'm also wondering why we don't provide a symlink 'curren't. | 12:48 |
| bkero | 'curren't | 12:48 |
| bkero | Blah. 'current' that points to the latest. | 12:48 |
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| trown | flepied: that is awesome thanks! | 12:58 |
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| karimb | danpawlik ping mind me talking ownership on https://bugs.launchpad.net/puppet-keystone/+bug/1590748 ? | 13:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1590748 in puppet-keystone "Keystone_authtoken missing parameters" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to daniel.pawlik (daniel-pawlik) | 13:01 |
| danpawlik | karimb: sure. I have done something here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328620/ | 13:02 |
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| danpawlik | karimb: unit tests and functionall passed, but I forgot to make one more time recheck | 13:02 |
| EmilienM | trown: fyi, puppet promotion today | 13:02 |
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| trown | EmilienM: woot, just need that one patch to THT to make it through the gate... zuul queue is so long... | 13:06 |
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| EmilienM | trown: yeah | 13:08 |
| EmilienM | trown: we also have infra issues with zuul/ansible, see #openstack-infra | 13:08 |
| trown | fun times | 13:09 |
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| trown | should slow down other potentially broken things from merging at least :P | 13:09 |
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| trown | so we have that going for us... which is nice | 13:09 |
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| jaosorior | Hey guys, I'm trying to build a package from a local changte | 13:11 |
| jaosorior | and I'm seeing stuff like this | 13:12 |
| jaosorior | WARNING:dlrn:URL for ./data/instack-undercloud changed from https://git.openstack.org/openstack/instack-undercloud.git to git://git.openstack.org/openstack/instack-undercloud, cleaning directory and cloning again | 13:12 |
| jaosorior | any clues? | 13:12 |
| jaosorior | seems to clone it again and doesn't take the changes I did into account | 13:12 |
| jpena | jaosorior: I think I introduced a bug in a patch merged a couple days ago | 13:15 |
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| jaosorior | aw :( | 13:15 |
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| jpena | jaosorior: for a quick test, edit dlrn/shell.py, then go to line 485 and change "else:" for "elif local is False:" | 13:16 |
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| jpena | I'm going to propose the change right now | 13:16 |
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| jaosorior | jpena: Same issue | 13:17 |
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| jpena | jaosorior: does the warning show up? | 13:17 |
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| jaosorior | yep | 13:18 |
| jaosorior | in the same way | 13:18 |
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| jpena | let me run a quick test | 13:18 |
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| jaosorior | jpena wait up | 13:21 |
| jaosorior | seems I edited the wrong file | 13:21 |
| jaosorior | for some reason there is another dlrn cloned by tripleo.sh | 13:21 |
| jaosorior | anyway | 13:21 |
| jaosorior | now it's processing the right hash | 13:21 |
| jpena | ok good | 13:22 |
| jpena | in any case I should fix that | 13:22 |
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| jaosorior | jpena: fixed! | 13:25 |
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| jaosorior | jpena: Thanks for the help | 13:31 |
| jpena | jaosorior: np | 13:31 |
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| number80 | .nextmeeting #rdo | 13:32 |
| zodbot | number80: In #rdo is RDO meeting (starting in an hour) | 13:32 |
| zodbot | number80: In #rdo is RDO meeting (starting in 7 days) | 13:32 |
| zodbot | number80: In #rdo is RDO meeting (starting in 14 days) | 13:32 |
| zodbot | number80: - https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/location/rdo%40irc.freenode.net/ | 13:32 |
| rbowen | That's handy. | 13:32 |
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| number80 | I just saw that you could give the channel as an argument | 13:33 |
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| number80 | and you can always PM zodbot to run commands | 13:33 |
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| trown | neat | 13:36 |
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| dmsimard | number80: fyi I'm here today but not for next week's meeting (pto) | 13:39 |
| dmsimard | you'll be on openstack mute duty :) | 13:39 |
| dmsimard | just -v the bot and +v it back once the meeting ends | 13:40 |
| number80 | dmsimard: np | 13:40 |
| number80 | dmsimard: btw, check the agenda, I think the DLRN topic may interest you | 13:40 |
| number80 | (the one about packages pinning) | 13:41 |
| dmsimard | what, How to raise an alert when RDO Trunk repos are broken ? | 13:41 |
| dmsimard | I have no strong opinion | 13:42 |
| dmsimard | around pinning | 13:42 |
| dmsimard | I do, however, think that however we're going to do it is probably going to end up being dirty | 13:42 |
| number80 | well, Javier's proposal avoids playing with the database | 13:43 |
| trown | dmsimard: who did you chat with wrt legal implications of ansible plugins in Apache2 codebase? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331250/2 | 13:44 |
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| dmsimard | oh, this thread has grown already far too big with far too many people involved :( | 13:45 |
| dmsimard | I opened pandora's box | 13:45 |
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| trown | dmsimard: ah k... wanted to get some legal guru input on that patch to quickstart, because http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html pretty clearly states the compatibility is one way | 13:46 |
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| dmsimard | trown: hang on | 13:47 |
| dmsimard | so there is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321331/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330856/ | 13:48 |
| dmsimard | apparently my version of the callback has grown popular :p | 13:49 |
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| dmsimard | but seriously, let me send you what I have | 13:49 |
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| trown | I mean the link on the Apache page is pretty clear... would really need a lawyer, like one with an actual law degree, to convince me otherwise | 13:51 |
| dmsimard | trown: forwarded you a couple emails | 13:51 |
| dmsimard | an actual lawyer with an actual degree who happened to write the GPL has an opinion on the matter :) | 13:51 |
| dmsimard | although tl;dr, there is no decisive clear cut decision | 13:52 |
| trown | lol, k I will just leave that where it is for now... quickstart log output is not bad enough to make me want to deal with all of that atm | 13:53 |
| dmsimard | The ambiguity is that ansible callback plugins should be GPL, and if a GPL callback plugin is inside an Apache project, it's not so clear anymore which license is effective | 13:53 |
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| dmsimard | and the fuss is that OpenStack big tent projects cannot under any circumstances require GPL stuff | 13:54 |
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| dmsimard | Zuul is exempt of that | 13:54 |
| dmsimard | it's complicated :( | 13:54 |
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| trown | adarazs: context for my -1 on that patch btw ^ | 13:54 |
| misc | ansible callback could be apache2 | 13:54 |
| alphacc | number80: can you relaunch your last build attempt ? :-) | 13:55 |
| dmsimard | misc: however that particular callback was originally licensed GPL | 13:55 |
| misc | dmsimard: oh, that's a problem then | 13:55 |
| misc | dmsimard: what about pushing it upstream in ansible ? | 13:55 |
| trown | dmsimard: is there any way to get the original author to relicense? | 13:55 |
| trown | ya or that | 13:55 |
| dmsimard | I think tosky wanted to pursue sending human_log upstream | 13:56 |
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| dmsimard | otoh when I talked to Ansible engineering they wanted something cleaner | 13:57 |
| tosky | I only commented on the gist of the original author asking if he wanted/could push it upstream | 13:57 |
| imcsk8 | meeting in 3 minutes guys | 13:57 |
| dmsimard | uh, no, 1 hour ? | 13:57 |
| adarazs | dmsimard, trown: so what if we would ask the guy who wrote it originally (and then dmsimard) if he can relicense it to apache for us? (omg I don't want to deal with licenses, but here we are) | 13:57 |
| dmsimard | trown: FWIW ARA is full Apache v2 until proven otherwise | 13:57 |
| * adarazs had his scroll buffer up and didn't notice this was already mentioned :) | 13:58 | |
| imcsk8 | i'm movile so i might have some little connection glitches | 13:59 |
| dmsimard | imcsk8: the meeting is in one hour .. | 13:59 |
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| imcsk8 | it's at 8:00 am MST right? | 14:00 |
| Duck | quack | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | it's like every week | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | it's in 1h :) | 14:00 |
| dmsimard | 15:00 UTC | 14:00 |
| imcsk8 | oh yeahh!! | 14:00 |
| imcsk8 | hahaha | 14:00 |
| Duck | number80: you did not contact me for MM3 :-/ | 14:00 |
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| imcsk8 | i'm right now on CDT, got confused with the timezones | 14:01 |
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| number80 | Duck: well, no time for MM3 so backup is to use our current list | 14:01 |
| number80 | sorry about that :( | 14:01 |
| Duck | number80: ha ok, that' a good reason | 14:02 |
| Duck | maybe you could drive me on it and I'll do the work | 14:02 |
| rbowen | Oh! I got the time wrong. | 14:02 |
| rbowen | Oy, time zones. | 14:03 |
| Duck | in 1h :-) | 14:03 |
| number80 | Duck: well, that was investigation on what could be done, so do not force any burden on yourself :) | 14:04 |
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| Duck | number80: I'm already working on it for oVirt, so that's the right time for me | 14:05 |
| number80 | we should do it like in China: everyone at Beijing hour | 14:05 |
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| Sketch | UTC for all | 14:05 |
| number80 | Duck: ack, anyway if we do that, we need to find out where to host it | 14:05 |
| number80 | Sketch: well, technically France should be using UTC so it would be perfect for me :) | 14:06 |
| misc | i heard OSAS got a few set of servers in their cage | 14:06 |
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| number80 | oh, that may change things, apevec ^ | 14:06 |
| misc | (by a set, that's 2 with 16G or 8g of ram) | 14:07 |
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| number80 | which is enough for mailing lists | 14:07 |
| Duck | I guess a VM would be sufficient | 14:07 |
| misc | we still didn't named them yet :) | 14:07 |
| number80 | *more than | 14:07 |
| misc | (I also wrote a ansible role to deploy a VM ...) | 14:07 |
| number80 | Goofy and Minnie? | 14:07 |
| Duck | yeah, the biggest problem is not to install them, but to name them :-) | 14:07 |
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| misc | number80: so far, the best domain name proposed is "kittendome2000.io" | 14:09 |
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| Duck | beemo and football ? | 14:10 |
| misc | Duck: we can decide to each name 1 server | 14:11 |
| misc | i almost proposed a complicated scheme like the Fedora naming | 14:11 |
| Duck | but if they don't get on well? | 14:12 |
| misc | (the one where you have to have a link between 2 versions, but not the same for each version) | 14:12 |
| misc | Duck: well, that would be the same as if not wearing matching socks | 14:12 |
| Duck | exactly, a source of regular downtime | 14:13 |
| Duck | but that could be an excuse to be lazy | 14:13 |
| number80 | misc: lol, well, like the now late Fedora naming process (RIP) | 14:14 |
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| Duck | number80: could you tell me what you would need in term of feature, auth system… so I can look for it (before the 3 months debating about naming) ? | 14:20 |
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| number80 | Duck: that's something we'd need to discuss w/ apevec | 14:21 |
| number80 | likely for auth, using github | 14:21 |
| number80 | or openstack openid server | 14:21 |
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| misc | it depend on who is gonna be subscribed, no ? | 14:22 |
| Duck | number80: I think we need to write it somewhere | 14:22 |
| number80 | well, now we use github for authentication everywhere in RDO | 14:23 |
| number80 | at least, stuff that have authentication feature | 14:23 |
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| apevec | on call | 14:24 |
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| misc | number80: what we did for mageia: http://archives.mageia.org/zarb-ml/mageia-sysadm/2010-October/000023.html | 14:24 |
| apevec | auth for what? | 14:24 |
| misc | apevec: mailman3 | 14:25 |
| number80 | apevec: old discussion to have separate list for infra and notifications, apparently OSAS has now new servers | 14:26 |
| Duck | misc: good dish names? | 14:26 |
| number80 | okonomyaki is too long | 14:26 |
| Duck | hehe, on of the best | 14:27 |
| Duck | tonkutsuramen ? | 14:27 |
| Duck | tonkotsuramen sorry | 14:27 |
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| number80 | tonkotsulamen? | 14:29 |
| Duck | nattouomelette | 14:29 |
| * number80 -> [} | 14:29 | |
| alphacc | apevec, number80 : openstack-ironic build is not happy . I am looking into it. the taks is staying forever in "free" not picked up bu builders | 14:29 |
| * misc note that there is already a yakisoba.cdg.redhat.com | 14:29 | |
| number80 | alphacc: the previous one was cancelled | 14:29 |
| apevec | re. auth for mailman - what's wrong w/ normal passwords? | 14:29 |
| number80 | I haven't looked at it yet | 14:29 |
| Duck | number80: there's several systems to romanize, but normal romaji is "ramen" | 14:30 |
| alphacc | number80: yes it blocks all other builds for all other tags. very weird... | 14:30 |
| alphacc | number80: do you have the command you use ? | 14:30 |
| apevec | so cancel killed CBS? | 14:31 |
| number80 | alphacc: cbs build --scratch cloud7-openstack-mitaka-el7 xxx.src.rpm (that's actually rdopkg doing it for me) | 14:31 |
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| number80 | I always do scratch builds unless I am sure or drunk | 14:31 |
| apevec | scratch? | 14:31 |
| misc | apevec: I think no one like having 1 password per website | 14:31 |
| misc | apevec: but we can keep also that, that's not a exclusive choice | 14:31 |
| number80 | apevec: yeah, to check if new releases doesn't break build first | 14:31 |
| misc | it is more "what should be supported" | 14:32 |
| number80 | and it also gives me time to last minute forgetting | 14:32 |
| alphacc | number80: ok investigating... thanks! | 14:32 |
| apevec | misc, yeah, sso is nice but for mailman everybody is used to password per list | 14:32 |
| misc | ie, there is some nice to have, some "we do not care", and some "must work" | 14:32 |
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| misc | apevec: the work is also already done upstream | 14:32 |
| imcsk8 | jpena: i'm trying to rsync from the centos but i get this error, do you have any clue how to get pass this? (rsync -aqzH mirror.centos.org::centos/7/cloud/x86_64/openstack-mitaka/) | 14:33 |
| imcsk8 | jpena: @ERROR: Unknown module 'centos' | 14:33 |
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| apevec | imcsk8, I don't think there's public rsync on mirror.c.o | 14:33 |
| apevec | but some mirrors of mirror.c.o might have it | 14:33 |
| jschlueter | number80: I've noticed general cleanup in spec files dropping Group? | 14:33 |
| imcsk8 | apevec: thanks i'll check the mirrors | 14:34 |
| number80 | jschlueter: yes, it's been unused for a long time (since RHEL5 or 6) | 14:34 |
| jschlueter | number80: ack | 14:34 |
| number80 | we never succeeded in managing groups properly | 14:34 |
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| apevec | imcsk8, https://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/ | 14:34 |
| Sketch | imcsk8: having two colons looks suspicious | 14:35 |
| imcsk8 | i tried without colons also | 14:35 |
| Duck | apevec, misc: at the moment local pwd to have compat with MM2 is *not* working. abompard has started work but it's not finished and he is struggling to finish MM 3.1 with perfect migration script so… | 14:35 |
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| Duck | number80: like JP ryouri too? | 14:36 |
| number80 | \o/ | 14:36 |
| number80 | weirdly enough, I understand enough japanese to get that | 14:36 |
| Sketch | you might try one of the rsync urls on the page linked above, it's likely that mirror.centos.org will hit a server that doesn't offer rsync | 14:37 |
| Duck | number80: washoku ga suki? | 14:37 |
| number80 | mochiron! | 14:38 |
| Duck | yokatta :-) | 14:38 |
| dmsimard | trown: unblocked for the jenkins slaves \o/ | 14:39 |
| number80 | I suspect that I pretty much understand anything food related in any language | 14:39 |
| Duck | number80: かな ga ok? | 14:39 |
| number80 | well, I can't read kanji :) | 14:39 |
| imcsk8 | Sketch: thanks | 14:39 |
| Duck | number80: sugoi! we should talk in japanese sometimes then, number80-sensei | 14:41 |
| number80 | lol, my conversation is pretty limited but you should ask tristanC about it ;) | 14:42 |
| number80 | Jinja! | 14:42 |
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| dmsimard | In Tokyo I over used the words "Sumimasen" and "Arigatou gozaimasu" so much (sorry for spelling mistakes if any :p) | 14:43 |
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| Duck | tristanC: はじめまして。宜しくお願いいたします。時々日本語で話しましょうか？ | 14:44 |
| Duck | number80: thanks :-) | 14:44 |
| number80 | dmsimard: next time, try yakuza or yankee talk | 14:44 |
| Duck | dmsimard: no it's fine. and yes it's so damn useful :-) | 14:45 |
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| dmsimard | My japanese is limited to what I can understand from all the animes I watch | 14:45 |
| dmsimard | I tried to learn kanji and hiragana before going to Tokyo | 14:46 |
| dmsimard | but without every day practice, it just doesn't stick | 14:46 |
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| Duck | this morning the woman from kuroneko, the delivery service, must have done some insignificantly bad thing or made the customer wait 30s, and she kept saying sorry, thank you in a loop until away with her car | 14:47 |
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| dmsimard | lol | 14:47 |
| tristanC | Duck: nice to meet you too sir, please note my japanese skill are limited to hand gesture ;) | 14:48 |
| Duck | the ojiisan said daijoubu multiple times, and smiled, but to no avail | 14:48 |
| * number80 is an ojiisan now | 14:48 | |
| leanderthal | alexismonville++ | 14:48 |
| Sketch | dmsimard: that's pretty much all the japanese i remembered last time i went to japan | 14:48 |
| Duck | tristanC: joudan da yo!!! :-) | 14:48 |
| Duck | ok, let's do the meeting in Japanese then | 14:49 |
| dmsimard | there was a noodle restaurant in shibuya.. everytime a customer came in or exited the restaurant, all the cooks would scream things | 14:49 |
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| Sketch | don't they do that in pretty much every shop? ;) | 14:49 |
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| dmsimard | that was was special :P | 14:50 |
| dmsimard | that one* | 14:50 |
| misc | tristanC: you count "designating a bottle of sake" as hand gesture ? | 14:50 |
| Duck | IRASSHAIMASE!!! | 14:50 |
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| Duck | that's really common here this shouting, you get used to it :-) | 14:50 |
| dmsimard | kamukura I think | 14:50 |
| dmsimard | kamukura noodles ? | 14:51 |
| number80 | meeting in 10 min | 14:51 |
| tristanC | misc: heh, you know, I show a hand handing an invisible glass, that is usualy enough to get a random beverage :-) | 14:51 |
| misc | tristanC: so true | 14:51 |
| number80 | alphacc: did you do something? my scratch just went suddenly moving forward | 14:52 |
| Duck | hum, after yokohama along the see, a bit far | 14:52 |
| alphacc | number80: yes weird bug | 14:52 |
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| number80 | alphacc: I must be using CBS too intensively then :) | 14:53 |
| alphacc | number80: all host from diffferent arch need same capacity setting otherwise tassk are not moved accross host (we added ppc64le builder today) | 14:53 |
| apevec | alphacc, what was it? | 14:53 |
| apevec | oh | 14:53 |
| alphacc | can you send another one ? | 14:53 |
| apevec | alphacc, http://cbs.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=11341 this was you? | 14:53 |
| alphacc | apevec: yes | 14:54 |
| apevec | built by koji | 14:54 |
| alphacc | apevec: you can resend | 14:54 |
| imcsk8 | number80, apevec i'm connected using my cell and i have to chair the meeting, should i transfer the chair to someoneelse to avoid problems? | 14:54 |
| alphacc | apevec: or I did ;) | 14:54 |
| number80 | ah yes | 14:54 |
| apevec | ok, I'll resend ironic | 14:54 |
| number80 | imcsk8: just add everyone in chair and we'll pick it up if you can't | 14:54 |
| number80 | apevec: you're doing ironic? | 14:54 |
| apevec | yeah, we have HA chairs :) | 14:55 |
| misc | ah ah | 14:55 |
| number80 | http://cbs.centos.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=97447 | 14:55 |
| apevec | number80, I started it earlier https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1348817#c2 | 14:55 |
| openstack | apevec: Error: Error getting bugzilla.redhat.com bug #1348817: NotPermitted | 14:55 |
| imcsk8 | hehehe i can be on the meeting but i don't want to dropoff while chairing | 14:55 |
| apevec | hm, why is that not public bz | 14:55 |
| imcsk8 | sorry about that, i'll chair next one :) | 14:55 |
| number80 | apevec: ack, please cherry-pick the latest commit in rpm-master | 14:56 |
| apevec | to liberty? | 14:56 |
| number80 | nope mitaka | 14:56 |
| apevec | number80, you can finish mitaka, I've started w/ liberty | 14:56 |
| number80 | ah ok | 14:56 |
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| imcsk8 | meeting on one minute | 14:59 |
| trown | imcsk8: it is in an hour | 14:59 |
| trown | har har har | 14:59 |
| imcsk8 | not again!! | 14:59 |
| trown | jk | 15:00 |
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| dmsimard | lol | 15:00 |
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| apevec | TZ jokers :) | 15:00 |
| imcsk8 | i can start the meeting but can't chair 'cause i might dropoff | 15:00 |
| apevec | start it up! | 15:00 |
| imcsk8 | #startmeeting RDO meeting (2016-06-22) | 15:00 |
| zodbot | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 15:00:45 2016 UTC. The chair is imcsk8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jun 22 15:00:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is imcsk8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| zodbot | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:00 |
| zodbot | The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting_(2016-06-22)' | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting__2016_06_22_' | 15:00 |
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| apevec | drop of the chair? | 15:00 |
| imcsk8 | of the connection | 15:01 |
| apevec | jk | 15:01 |
| chandankumar | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 15:01 |
| apevec | imcsk8, #chair us all | 15:01 |
| Duck | quack | 15:01 |
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| trown | o/ | 15:01 |
| number80 | o/ | 15:01 |
| jpena | o/ | 15:01 |
| amoralej | o/ | 15:01 |
| chandankumar | \o/ | 15:01 |
| rbowen | /0\ | 15:02 |
| apevec | /o/ | 15:02 |
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| apevec | woof! | 15:02 |
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| apevec | imcsk8, you need to chair us | 15:03 |
| imcsk8 | #chair apevec Duck number80 dmsimard | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck apevec dmsimard imcsk8 number80 | 15:03 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: Duck apevec dmsimard imcsk8 number80 | 15:03 |
| Duck | yes, it's tiring to stand up all along | 15:03 |
| misc | o/ | 15:03 |
| imcsk8 | sorry, i lost connections | 15:03 |
| apevec | #topic rollcall | 15:04 |
| apevec | we did that | 15:04 |
| rbowen | Still here | 15:04 |
| apevec | #topic graylist review.rdoproject.org | 15:04 |
| imcsk8 | #chair amoralej jpena rbowen | 15:04 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: Duck amoralej apevec dmsimard imcsk8 jpena number80 rbowen | 15:04 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: Duck amoralej apevec dmsimard imcsk8 jpena number80 rbowen | 15:04 |
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| apevec | graylist should be down to 5min after reverse DNS was fixed | 15:04 |
| number80 | #chair trown chandankumar | 15:04 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena number80 rbowen trown | 15:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena number80 rbowen trown | 15:04 |
| Duck | #chair misc | 15:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena misc number80 rbowen trown | 15:04 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena misc number80 rbowen trown | 15:04 |
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| chandankumar | apevec, what is graylist? | 15:05 |
| apevec | any SMTP experts around who can help us solve remaining 5? | 15:05 |
| apevec | temp block by mail server | 15:05 |
| misc | apevec: I do not think we can do much | 15:05 |
| misc | except on the remote server side | 15:05 |
| apevec | from review.rdo -> redhat.com it was hours | 15:05 |
| misc | and greylist should be applied on the first connexion | 15:06 |
| Duck | but that's rh.c's side | 15:06 |
| misc | not sure if RH IT has some kind of whitelist | 15:06 |
| misc | we can dig in their puppet config to see that, or open a ticket | 15:06 |
| apevec | misc, card is https://trello.com/c/vgSUYFjU/162-email-graylist-review-rdoproject-org | 15:06 |
| apevec | jschlueter has filed IT ticket | 15:06 |
| imcsk8 | Duck: rh.c is graylisting right? | 15:06 |
| apevec | yes | 15:06 |
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| imcsk8 | mot graylist programs have an exclusion list | 15:07 |
| imcsk8 | /mot/most/ | 15:07 |
| apevec | misc, please check comments in the card, and add suggestion how to debug further | 15:07 |
| apevec | but I think we can remove that topic from recurring list | 15:07 |
| apevec | let's move on? | 15:08 |
| misc | apevec: looking at the ticket, seems IT is on it | 15:08 |
| apevec | yeah, jschlueter said they need one example session | 15:08 |
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| apevec | fbo, jschlueter ^ anything else to add? | 15:09 |
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| misc | we can chat after the meeting (or I can go ping fbo, even if that involve me moving by 5 m to the other side of the room) | 15:09 |
| apevec | #action apevec to followup remaining graylisting of review.rdoproject.org with fbo jschlueter misc | 15:10 |
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| apevec | misc, hehe | 15:10 |
| Duck | misc: do I need to be a previous member of IT to see tickets unrelated to me? | 15:10 |
| apevec | ok next | 15:10 |
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| apevec | #topic DLRN instance migration to ci.centos infra | 15:10 |
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| jpena | that's mine | 15:10 |
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| misc | Duck: yep, unfortunately | 15:11 |
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| jpena | we should have everything in place now, with the current and consistent links being synced | 15:11 |
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| apevec | what about passed-ci ? | 15:11 |
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| apevec | do they match? | 15:11 |
| mburned | o/ | 15:11 |
| jpena | that's synced to buildlogs, and the public server redirects there | 15:12 |
| imcsk8 | #chair mburned | 15:12 |
| zodbot | Current chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena mburned misc number80 rbowen trown | 15:12 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck amoralej apevec chandankumar dmsimard imcsk8 jpena mburned misc number80 rbowen trown | 15:12 |
| apevec | ok so when can we do the cut off? | 15:12 |
| amoralej | will we manually sync the current-passed-ci for bootstrap the new server? | 15:13 |
| jpena | unless EmilienM/trown/dmsimard have any issue, I'd like to flip the switch tomorrow morning (CET time), so we have enough time to troubleshoot during the day if anything goes wrong | 15:13 |
| apevec | EmilienM, trown, dmsimard - speak up now! | 15:13 |
| trown | +1, hopefully we get a promote on master today | 15:13 |
| dmsimard | I think all my concerns have been addressed | 15:13 |
| dmsimard | also yes, we need to re-sync the symlinks | 15:14 |
| trown | but if not, I dont think the change should disrupt promote | 15:14 |
| dmsimard | I can take care of that, I did a small script to check the symlinks on both servers to compare them | 15:14 |
| apevec | trown, you're using trunk-primary ? | 15:14 |
| dmsimard | apevec: for the hash check only | 15:14 |
| dmsimard | apevec: not for the actual installation | 15:14 |
| jpena | dmsimard: ok. If you can, re-sync the symlinks later today and e-mail me if it goes ok, so I can change DNS tomorrow | 15:15 |
| apevec | I mean for promote script | 15:15 |
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| trown | trunk-primary is used to get the hash, and it is used for promote | 15:15 |
| dmsimard | yes, promote uses trunk-primary | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | jpena: go ahead | 15:15 |
| apevec | ok, then it's good | 15:15 |
| apevec | jpena, action! | 15:15 |
| EmilienM | our CI is completly broken anyway today | 15:16 |
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| EmilienM | but unrelated to rdo | 15:16 |
| jpena | #action dmsimard to re-sync the current-passed-ci symlinks | 15:16 |
| jpena | #action jpena to switch DNS entries for trunk.rdoproject.org on Thu Jun 23 | 15:16 |
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| apevec | #topic MM3 (mailman3) installation | 15:17 |
| apevec | that was on irc earlier, do we have hosting now? | 15:17 |
| apevec | IIUC | 15:17 |
| Duck | investigating OSAS hosting | 15:17 |
| number80 | yep, misc mentionned that OSAS has two unnamed servers | 15:17 |
| apevec | there was auth question | 15:18 |
| Duck | if a VM on our new machines would fit you, think it would | 15:18 |
| Duck | more generally, list the needs | 15:18 |
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| apevec | looks like MM3 doesn't support old style password per list ? | 15:18 |
| Duck | have it written in Trello for ex | 15:18 |
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| apevec | ack, let's start with that | 15:18 |
| Duck | apevec: it should, but not yet | 15:18 |
| apevec | rbowen, ^ suggestion is to also migration rdo-list to future @lists.rdoproject.org | 15:19 |
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| Duck | abompard started working on it but is too busy with the upcoming release to continue it right now | 15:19 |
| apevec | rbowen, any suggestion for migration strategy? | 15:19 |
| misc | when is 3.1 supposed to be released ? | 15:19 |
| apevec | auto re-subscribe all current members? | 15:19 |
| rbowen | Yes, I would be a big big fan of having our lists on an rdoproject.org hostname. | 15:19 |
| Duck | misc: I did not see an exact date, but seems soon | 15:19 |
| number80 | apevec: yep | 15:19 |
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| Duck | misc: but we have the RPM from abompard with 3.1 git + patches | 15:20 |
| apevec | number80, would you like to start the trello card and everybody chime-in with requirements? | 15:20 |
| number80 | #action coordinate requirements for m-l migration in trello | 15:20 |
| Duck | we can already work on migrating previous mails and see what is the result | 15:20 |
| number80 | #undo | 15:21 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x7fc2b02d6ad0> | 15:21 |
| zodbot | Removing item from minutes: ACTION by number80 at 15:20:57 : coordinate requirements for m-l migration in trello | 15:21 |
| number80 | #action number80 coordinate requirements for m-l migration in trello | 15:21 |
| Duck | number80: :-) | 15:21 |
| apevec | rbowen, what version of mailman do we have now at @redhat.com ? | 15:21 |
| dmsimard | Why no hyperkitty :( | 15:21 |
| misc | mailman2 | 15:21 |
| Duck | dmsimard: ??? | 15:21 |
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| misc | likely mailman-2.1.12-25.el6.x86_64 | 15:22 |
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| dmsimard | Duck: fedora's moved to hyperkitty recently, was it considered ? | 15:22 |
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| Duck | dmsimard: it's a standard component with MM3 | 15:22 |
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| dmsimard | oh so mm3 ~= hyperkitty ? | 15:22 |
| Duck | and Postorius for the webi | 15:22 |
| misc | and abompard is hyperkitty upstream | 15:22 |
| dmsimard | ahhhhhh | 15:22 |
| rbowen | It seems we've been talking about it for 2 years, at least. | 15:22 |
| Duck | dmsimard: the components are split, but I was talking about the whole package | 15:22 |
| misc | rbowen: yeah, mailman3 was supposed to be released at pycon in Montreal, and it took a few weeks of delay | 15:23 |
| misc | then fedora did deploy, found bugs | 15:23 |
| rbowen | Also worth looking at, Apache PonyMail | 15:23 |
| rbowen | Not that I'm biased or anything. :-) | 15:23 |
| misc | (then, it did also requires python3, so it did requires backport on EL7) | 15:23 |
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| Duck | well, if you want to look at the new interface, I can give you info on the oVirt's experiment | 15:23 |
| dmsimard | rbowen: http://ponymail.com/ ? :P | 15:24 |
| rbowen | No, not that one | 15:24 |
| rbowen | ponymail.incubator.apache.org | 15:24 |
| trown | lol | 15:24 |
| dmsimard | I know, just messing with you | 15:24 |
| trown | flashback to the 90s | 15:24 |
| misc | " Q: I can Receive email but I can no longer send any email.." seems like a way to reduce the problem of having too much traffic on the list | 15:24 |
| dmsimard | sorry for sidetracking topic | 15:24 |
| dmsimard | let's move on | 15:24 |
| rbowen | Also http://rdo.fosslists.org/list.html?rdo-list@redhat.com | 15:25 |
| apevec | rbowen, oh, so we need to migrate all those references? | 15:26 |
| rbowen | No. | 15:26 |
| rbowen | That last url was a temporary thing set up by the ponymail guy to show me what it could do. | 15:26 |
| rbowen | That is not a stable URL | 15:26 |
| apevec | ok | 15:26 |
| apevec | let's move on, we have action | 15:26 |
| apevec | #topic New release for openstack-utils | 15:27 |
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| number80 | o/ | 15:27 |
| apevec | yes, let's publish it | 15:27 |
| number80 | I noticed that since pixelb left no new release | 15:27 |
| apevec | even if it is just one patch | 15:27 |
| number80 | apevec: actually, we have some pending reviews | 15:27 |
| apevec | reviews? | 15:28 |
| jpena | should we add this package under the DLRN umbrella? | 15:28 |
| number80 | do you take the action or should i take it? | 15:28 |
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| apevec | I see only one PR https://github.com/redhat-openstack/openstack-utils/pull/11 | 15:28 |
| apevec | we didn't migrate it to review.rdo did we? | 15:28 |
| apevec | jpena, I'm not sure | 15:29 |
| apevec | it's not openstack project | 15:29 |
| apevec | and not much changing | 15:29 |
| number80 | apevec: nope (well, I reviewed Nir's to add neutron-**aaS services) | 15:29 |
| number80 | https://github.com/redhat-openstack/openstack-utils/commit/11c3e85609f168a64410354afce1c143fc8661a9 | 15:29 |
| apevec | https://github.com/redhat-openstack/openstack-utils/issues/13 should be fixed? | 15:30 |
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| apevec | number80, ok, let's do triage of remaining open issues then release it | 15:30 |
| number80 | Yes | 15:31 |
| apevec | #action apevec and number80 do triage of open issue and release openstack-utils 2016.1 | 15:31 |
| apevec | next | 15:31 |
| apevec | #topic Proposal to manage pinned packages | 15:31 |
| number80 | (sorry, I'm also dealing w/ CBS tag topic on #centos-devel at the same time) | 15:31 |
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| apevec | so yes, current approach was to fork problematic project (currently osc) | 15:32 |
| apevec | and pin to latest release tag | 15:32 |
| dmsimard | I have a problem with that | 15:32 |
| apevec | but to build it, we had to delete successfully built commits from dlrn db | 15:33 |
| number80 | I agree that's error-prone | 15:33 |
| dmsimard | We have no visibility on the problems between <release tag> and <latest commit> | 15:33 |
| apevec | jpena, please summarize your proposal | 15:33 |
| dmsimard | In that sense, it's as bad as having no consistent for a long period of time | 15:33 |
| jpena | my idea was that, in these cases, we: | 15:33 |
| jpena | a) temporarily disable the pinned project in rdoinfo (setting a tag) | 15:33 |
| apevec | dmsimard, yes, but that's projects which don't seem to care about their tip of master branch | 15:33 |
| dmsimard | apevec: I don't think these projects don't care | 15:34 |
| jpena | b) have the pinned rpm in an overrides repo, included in delorean-deps.repo | 15:34 |
| apevec | dmsimard, so time to fix is unkown | 15:34 |
| apevec | unknown even | 15:34 |
| dmsimard | apevec: for that particular issue, dtroyer was relatively quick in understanding the issue and pushing a fix for review | 15:34 |
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| dmsimard | apevec: If that use case had testing coverage, it probably wouldn't have merged in the first place | 15:34 |
| apevec | yep | 15:34 |
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| apevec | ideally we help upstream fix it and improve coverage | 15:35 |
| trown | the osc issues plagued us for a week... pretty hard to have a weekly promote if a single issue takes a week to resolve | 15:35 |
| apevec | but if that takes more than few days, we need planB solution | 15:35 |
| trown | +1 | 15:35 |
| dmsimard | trown: so pinning a package is the same as promoting an inconsistent repo, then ? | 15:35 |
| trown | more than 2 days is dire | 15:35 |
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| apevec | dmsimard, not quite | 15:36 |
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| apevec | we pin to release tag, which is what upstream gate is actually using | 15:36 |
| trown | because it is rare we go more than 2 days without something breaking, so the cycle can repeat | 15:36 |
| dmsimard | I would think upstream gate uses trunk, no ? | 15:36 |
| apevec | this would be restricted to dep libs only | 15:36 |
| trown | dmsimard: nope, not for libs | 15:36 |
| apevec | dmsimard, not for libs | 15:36 |
| dmsimard | Why would upstream gate devstack use released projects ? | 15:36 |
| dmsimard | Oh. | 15:36 |
| number80 | well, if we keep building every commit in pinned package to track progress (at least display the build state in reporting), I'm fine | 15:36 |
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| apevec | number80, we don't | 15:36 |
| apevec | we pin it to a tag | 15:37 |
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| apevec | it's exceptional state | 15:37 |
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| amoralej | with jpena's proposed solution we don't build any new commit | 15:37 |
| apevec | and we need to remove it as soon as fix lands on master | 15:37 |
| number80 | I mean w/ jpena b. proposal, it'd be possible | 15:37 |
| trown | I actually think we might be better served to follow upstream here and put libs into deps repo | 15:37 |
| apevec | number80, it's both | 15:38 |
| number80 | trown: master release for libs are too often broken | 15:38 |
| number80 | ack | 15:38 |
| apevec | step a and step b | 15:38 |
| number80 | suse and mirantis had issue recently w/ oslo.cache changes | 15:38 |
| trown | number80: right but at least if a release is broken we have a leg to stand on when bringing the issue upstream | 15:38 |
| trown | number80: if master is broken... there is not much urgency | 15:39 |
| apevec | ok, let's then make a list, | 15:39 |
| apevec | of projects in rdoinfo which are used from pypi in the gate | 15:39 |
| trown | putting them in deps repo does then require a deps promotion pipeline, but we want that anyways | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | so how does upstream test when they bump a lib release ? | 15:39 |
| apevec | that's oslo and clients | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | brb kid school (last day at school!) | 15:40 |
| trown | ever? | 15:40 |
| apevec | dmsimard, it's whatever that projects' have in their gate | 15:40 |
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| rbowen | Wow. Our kids were out almost a month ago. | 15:40 |
| apevec | so conclusion? | 15:42 |
| apevec | move all of oslo and clients out of rdoinfo ? | 15:42 |
| apevec | but then, how do we keep track of master changes? | 15:42 |
| trown | it might be a bit complicated issue to resolve in meeting... maybe we should push to ML? | 15:42 |
| apevec | yeah | 15:43 |
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| jpena | +1 to trown's proposal | 15:43 |
| number80 | I | 15:43 |
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| apevec | jpena, ok, since this was your topic, please start thread on rdo-list :) | 15:43 |
| number80 | 'm -1 to remove oslo libs from DLRN | 15:43 |
| jpena | apevec: ack | 15:43 |
| jpena | #action jpena to start thread on rdo-list about pinned packages | 15:43 |
| apevec | yeah, I'm -1 too for now, but let's discuss details on hte list | 15:43 |
| number80 | sure | 15:43 |
| apevec | next | 15:44 |
| apevec | #topic Add openstack-macros in CBS cloud SIG buildroot | 15:44 |
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| apevec | +2 ! | 15:44 |
| apevec | and let's migrate all of rdo-rpm-macros to that | 15:44 |
| number80 | #action number80 migrate rdo-rpm-macros to openstack-macros | 15:44 |
| apevec | number80, ^ this build is pure current upstream? | 15:45 |
| apevec | openstack-macros-2015.2-0 | 15:45 |
| number80 | apevec: yes, it's to allow jpena to move forward w/ DLRN/rpm-packaging support | 15:45 |
| apevec | ack | 15:45 |
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| apevec | jpena, ^ anything else blocking you on that support? | 15:46 |
| number80 | I'll handle the transition as we can't have the same macros defined twice in buildroot | 15:46 |
| jpena | apevec: we need that, merge https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1346 and then we can setup a test instance | 15:46 |
| number80 | this one need second opinion but it works and does not break existing feature | 15:46 |
| apevec | #action apevec to review dlrn rpm-packaging support https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1346 | 15:47 |
| apevec | ok, next | 15:47 |
| apevec | #topic How to raise an alert when RDO Trunk repos are broken | 15:48 |
| apevec | sensu? | 15:48 |
| rbowen | We need another bot! | 15:48 |
| jpena | this came up today, since the keystonemiddleware thing broke current-passed-ci and current-tripleo | 15:48 |
| apevec | but how do you define "broken" ? | 15:48 |
| trown | apevec: is this current-passed-ci broken? or current? | 15:48 |
| trown | ah, thanks jpena | 15:48 |
| jpena | at a minimum: broken symlinks, anything that prevents a package from being read | 15:48 |
| apevec | so repoclosure? | 15:49 |
| apevec | we need to define a probe | 15:49 |
| jpena | apevec: that would be ok. If we can run a probe there, and email rdo-list when it fails, it would be good | 15:49 |
| apevec | light enough i.e. not full CI pipeline :) | 15:49 |
| jpena | the idea is not to only alert us, but also rdo trunk consumers | 15:49 |
| apevec | I'd like this to be part of overall monitoring | 15:49 |
| apevec | which is based on sensu | 15:50 |
| apevec | not just one-off script somewhere | 15:50 |
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| jpena | that makes sense, yes | 15:50 |
| * trown is tempted to action dmsimard in his absence | 15:50 | |
| * jpena too | 15:50 | |
| apevec | dmsimard, ^ when you're back, suggestions welcome how to put this into sensu | 15:50 |
| apevec | trown, jpena ack :) | 15:50 |
| number80 | remember that he'll be in PTO next week :) | 15:51 |
| apevec | #action dmsimard to suggest lightweight sensu probe for basic rdo repo consistency check | 15:51 |
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| apevec | number80, there's still enough hours until next week :) | 15:51 |
| trown | he can always re-delegate :) | 15:51 |
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| number80 | ack | 15:51 |
| apevec | #topic Test Day | 15:52 |
| apevec | rbowen, ^ | 15:52 |
| rbowen | So, first thing was stats from the last test day, just FYI | 15:52 |
| rbowen | We have traditionally not even done a milestone 1 test day, so it's not really surprising that numbers were down. | 15:52 |
| rbowen | But we need to try to spread the word a little wider for M2, if possible. | 15:53 |
| apevec | less tickets might mean openstack is maturing :) | 15:53 |
| rbowen | Like, I kind of missed notifying various places like CentOS and Fedora this time. | 15:53 |
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| rbowen | So, just wanted to get the date out there early so that we can get some wider participation. | 15:53 |
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| rbowen | And, as always, improve test case documentation | 15:53 |
| rbowen | /EOL | 15:53 |
| apevec | ack for July 21/22 dates | 15:54 |
| number80 | +1 | 15:54 |
| apevec | let's keep upstream milestone + 1 week | 15:54 |
| rbowen | ok, I'll start getting the word out on that date. | 15:54 |
| apevec | that's month from now | 15:54 |
| apevec | rbowen, action it :) | 15:54 |
| rbowen | I'll be at RHSummit all next week, so will be somewhat unresponsive for the next little bit. | 15:54 |
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| rbowen | #action rbowen to promote Newton Milestone 2 test day, July 21/22 | 15:54 |
| apevec | #topic Chair for next meeting | 15:55 |
| imcsk8 | i'll do it | 15:55 |
| * chandankumar would like to chair | 15:55 | |
| imcsk8 | i feel bad for sepping dong during this meeting | 15:55 |
| apevec | chandankumar, you'll get week after :) | 15:55 |
| imcsk8 | s/dong/down/ | 15:55 |
| apevec | imcsk8, no worries | 15:55 |
| apevec | just fix those tubes for the next week ;) | 15:55 |
| imcsk8 | yeah! | 15:56 |
| apevec | #info imcsk8 is chair June 29 | 15:56 |
| apevec | #info chandankumar is chair July 6 | 15:56 |
| apevec | #topic Open Floor | 15:56 |
| apevec | anything else, for few minutes left? | 15:56 |
| imcsk8 | just one thing | 15:56 |
| imcsk8 | the packstack refactor | 15:57 |
| apevec | merge it! :) | 15:57 |
| imcsk8 | there's concerns about not having storage host | 15:57 |
| apevec | that can be followup | 15:57 |
| apevec | we will not release this | 15:57 |
| apevec | folks using it will stay on released version | 15:57 |
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| imcsk8 | ok | 15:58 |
| imcsk8 | ah and other thing hehee | 15:58 |
| apevec | jpena, ^ you're fine w/ followup ? | 15:58 |
| jpena | and remember, separate storage host support was deprecated long time ago, so they can expect it to break ;) | 15:58 |
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| jpena | apevec: sure, it should be a followup | 15:58 |
| imcsk8 | +1 | 15:58 |
| apevec | imcsk8, what's the other thing? | 16:00 |
| imcsk8 | we can address it after ending the meeting | 16:00 |
| apevec | ok | 16:00 |
| apevec | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| zodbot | Meeting ended Wed Jun 22 16:00:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . | 16:00 |
| zodbot | Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2016-06-22/rdo_meeting_(2016-06-22).2016-06-22-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| zodbot | Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2016-06-22/rdo_meeting_(2016-06-22).2016-06-22-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| zodbot | Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/rdo/2016-06-22/rdo_meeting_(2016-06-22).2016-06-22-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jun 22 16:00:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting__2016_06_22_/2016/rdo_meeting__2016_06_22_.2016-06-22-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting__2016_06_22_/2016/rdo_meeting__2016_06_22_.2016-06-22-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting__2016_06_22_/2016/rdo_meeting__2016_06_22_.2016-06-22-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| apevec | thanks everyone | 16:00 |
| rbowen | Thanks! | 16:00 |
| apevec | right on time :) | 16:00 |
| imcsk8 | thanks! | 16:00 |
| eggmaster | heh | 16:00 |
| trown | well chaired | 16:00 |
| imcsk8 | apevec: i'll send the mail | 16:00 |
| apevec | ok | 16:01 |
| Duck | tanoshikatta! | 16:01 |
| imcsk8 | with the minute | 16:01 |
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| amoralej | apevec, trown, EmilienM, the fix for osc has been merged | 16:01 |
| apevec | amoralej, does it work? | 16:01 |
| EmilienM | amoralej: did you test it? | 16:01 |
| amoralej | unpin or wait until promotion? | 16:01 |
| apevec | hehe | 16:01 |
| jpena | brb | 16:01 |
| amoralej | i test it with packstack | 16:01 |
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| apevec | it-worked-in-packstack? :) | 16:02 |
| amoralej | and worked | 16:02 |
| amoralej | :DDD | 16:02 |
| apevec | trown, ^ what do you say? | 16:02 |
| EmilienM | if it works in packstack | 16:02 |
| EmilienM | it works for us in puppet & tripleo I'm quite sure | 16:02 |
| apevec | last blocker for promotion was THT ? | 16:02 |
| trown | lets wait for promotion :) | 16:02 |
| apevec | ok | 16:02 |
| trown | THT change merged just waiting on dlrn to build it | 16:02 |
| EmilienM | apevec: blocker fixed, we landed the patch | 16:02 |
| amoralej | ok | 16:02 |
| apevec | coolio | 16:03 |
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| apevec | promote a day, keeps openstack bugs away! | 16:03 |
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| amoralej | apevec, rdo and trunk http://www.portadasparafacebook.es/i/Coyote.jpg | 16:04 |
| EmilienM | apevec: what is happenning? http://logs.openstack.org/20/332820/2/check/gate-puppet-openstack-integration-3-scenario001-tempest-centos-7/5491afc/console.html#_2016-06-22_15_24_39_683929 | 16:04 |
| amoralej | EmilienM, what repo is that | 16:05 |
| amoralej | that's the keystonemw issue... | 16:06 |
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| EmilienM | ah o | 16:06 |
| EmilienM | ok | 16:06 |
| EmilienM | it's old repo then | 16:06 |
| EmilienM | we need to promote asap... | 16:06 |
| apevec | amoralej, who is who? :) | 16:07 |
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| apevec | amoralej, jpena - oh, btw, THANKS for 2:1 last night :P | 16:07 |
| * apevec runs | 16:07 | |
| amoralej | well apevec, congrats for that | 16:08 |
| amoralej | you have a clean path at least to semifinals | 16:08 |
| EmilienM | trown: puppet Ci won't promote today, our CI is really dead | 16:08 |
| EmilienM | trown: and I'm leaving office earlier today so will continue tonight or tomorrow. | 16:08 |
| amoralej | EmilienM, how did you pick the repo to use for that test? | 16:09 |
| EmilienM | amoralej: we update repos every week by taking latest | 16:10 |
| * number80 remembers that Croatia finished 3rd at last world cup in France | 16:10 | |
| amoralej | ok, then it's that | 16:10 |
| EmilienM | amoralej: ack | 16:10 |
| amoralej | you can get consistent now | 16:10 |
| imcsk8 | mexico lost 7-0 against chile XXXD | 16:12 |
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| amoralej | imcsk8, but Sergio Perez did 3rd in F1 | 16:15 |
| amoralej | :) | 16:15 |
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| imcsk8 | cool!! | 16:16 |
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| imcsk8 | i'm not very fond of football but most mexicans are | 16:17 |
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| apevec | imcsk8, same here, it was just too good opportunity to poke fun at .es folks ;) | 16:25 |
| imcsk8 | yeah hehehe | 16:25 |
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| jpena | apevec: I remember a certain Eurocup where the Swiss guys were so happy they beat Spain :P | 16:26 |
| jpena | or was it a world cup? | 16:26 |
| amoralej | :D | 16:27 |
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| apevec | hehe, I knew it would backfire :) | 16:30 |
| imcsk8 | hehehe | 16:32 |
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| imcsk8 | i like to watch the X games better | 16:32 |
| amoralej | Croatia has a good team this year | 16:32 |
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| jschlueter | number80/apevec: has there been any talk of getting python-shade into RDO to be able to better leverage ansible 2.0 ? | 17:51 |
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| number80 | jschlueter: there was, but the question is where to put ansible? | 17:53 |
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| jschlueter | number80: yea, the one justifcation for having python-shade packaged is to allow http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/os_server_facts_module.html to be used | 17:54 |
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| trown | jschlueter: better leverage ansible 2.0 in what sense? | 17:54 |
| jschlueter | ansible can be installed on remote system to talk to a stack, but if you want to use os_server_facts you need shade and python installed on the node | 17:54 |
| trown | ah right | 17:54 |
| jschlueter | InfraRed I believe is attempting to use os_server_facts for one of it's steps and I'd love it if we could just install the package rather than pip, virtualenv, shade, gcc, python-devel on a node just to use os_server_facts | 17:55 |
| jschlueter | afazekas: ^^ | 17:55 |
| jschlueter | I notice there was a package for shade in fedora https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/python-shade/ | 17:56 |
| afazekas | jruzicka: ^ | 17:57 |
| jschlueter | larsks, and pabelanger are package admins for that package | 17:58 |
| amuller | EmilienM: re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1595228 | 17:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1595228 in tripleo "[RFE] Add a way to figure out the TripleO version from an overcloud node" [Undecided,New] | 17:58 |
| amuller | EmilienM: does tripleo install any packages on overcloud nodes? | 17:59 |
| amuller | EmilienM: I mean any tripleo packages :) | 17:59 |
| larsks | jschlueter: indeed, although mostly pabelanger once I did the initial packaging... | 17:59 |
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| jschlueter | :-) | 17:59 |
| trown | amuller: os-collect-config and os-refresh-config are installed there | 17:59 |
| EmilienM | right but I realized, no tht | 17:59 |
| trown | ya no tht | 17:59 |
| jschlueter | larsks: just wondering how much work it would be to get it included in cloud7-openstack-common | 18:00 |
| amuller | tflink: so one could rpm -qa os-collect-config to figure out which tripleo version installed the node | 18:00 |
| EmilienM | so the problem is solve is "I'm logged on a overcloud node, and I need to know which tripleo version I'm running" | 18:00 |
| amuller | EmilienM: yeah... which tripleo installed this node | 18:00 |
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| amuller | EmilienM: when you don't have access to the undercloud | 18:00 |
| trown | ya, I actually would like to write a /etc/openstack-release file for that purpose | 18:00 |
| EmilienM | I don't think we should rely on os-collect-config | 18:01 |
| EmilienM | trown++ | 18:01 |
| trown | but os-collect-config could be a proxy in the short term | 18:01 |
| EmilienM | trown: something done by packaging | 18:01 |
| amuller | trown: would it contain both the openstack release as well as the tripleo release? | 18:01 |
| EmilienM | with a list of refs maybe | 18:01 |
| amuller | trown: there are two independent things | 18:01 |
| amuller | trown: these* | 18:01 |
| larsks | trown: I want the packaging to write an /etc/openstack-release file, owned by the openstack-release package... | 18:01 |
| EmilienM | amuller: could be, yes | 18:01 |
| amuller | larsks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1595228 :) | 18:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1595228 in tripleo "[RFE] Add a way to figure out the TripleO version from an overcloud node" [Undecided,New] | 18:02 |
| trown | larsks: ya, that is what I am thinking of as well. amuller you are instead wanting to know what version of openstack the undercloud used to deploy the overcloud? | 18:02 |
| trown | does that matter? | 18:02 |
| larsks | amuller: but that is tragically filed against tripleo, and I am claiming that this is a distribution packaging problem, not a tripleo problem... | 18:02 |
| * trown reads the bug instead of asking questions that are probably addressed there :P | 18:03 | |
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| trown | there is actually nothing on the overcloud that deterministically tells what version of undercloud deployed it | 18:04 |
| trown | since packages are installed at image build time, not at deploy time | 18:05 |
| amuller | trown: That is what I would like to see addressed for the use cases I explained in the RFE report | 18:05 |
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| trown | so even if you had newton os-collect-config, that just says you have a newton image... it could have still been deployed (though I doubt it would work) with mitaka undercloud | 18:05 |
| amuller | trown: it would have have the implicit functionality of knowing if the node in question was installed via tripleo at all, and if so, which version | 18:06 |
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| trown | amuller: ya, I think it would have to be solved via THT/puppet so that the file (or whatever mechanism) was written at deploy time | 18:06 |
| amuller | trown: right | 18:06 |
| amuller | trown: OK, what would be the right component then on launchpad? | 18:07 |
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| trown | amuller: the bug is in the right place, I will put some comments there | 18:07 |
| amuller | trown: Thank you :) | 18:07 |
| amuller | trown: To be clear this is an 'open' RFE, I do not intend to implement this myself, but I thought I would ask for this, since I think it's useful and I've seen this requested multiple times by different people. | 18:08 |
| trown | amuller: ya, I dont have cycles to work on it myself atm, but I can help clarify the request and why it would be useful :) | 18:08 |
| amuller | trown++ | 18:08 |
| zodbot | amuller: Karma for trown changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any | 18:08 |
| amuller | So we do karma per Fedora release cycle in RDO? =D | 18:09 |
| EmilienM | trown: 332820 is in gate which means we're promoting Puppet CI to latest trunk right now | 18:09 |
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| trown | woot woot | 18:09 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 18:09 |
| EmilienM | stupid question, do we still pin osclient? | 18:09 |
| amuller | trown: I imagine this would not be super complicated to implement, there's a bunch of newish tripleo developers... Is there a way to highlight 'low hanging fruit' in tripleo? | 18:09 |
| trown | amuller: we dont currently use that tag, but it might be good to start | 18:10 |
| trown | s/might/would/ | 18:10 |
| amuller | trown: One last question :) Is a launchpad bug with an RFE tag in the title an appropriate way to file an RFE for tripleo? | 18:11 |
| trown | amuller: it is what I would do :), I will set importance to wishlist also | 18:12 |
| amuller | trown: right on, thanks :) | 18:12 |
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| amuller | every community has its own way... It's what makes openstack great :) | 18:12 |
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| dmsimard | trown: no pressure but if ooo-q succeeds we have a promotion | 18:26 |
| trown | dmsimard: ya, I have both job consoles up, and am doing the rain dance | 18:27 |
| dmsimard | trown: ah so you're more a "dance of the rain" kinda guy than, say, astrology like EmilienM ? | 18:27 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM tends to rely on the stars a lot. | 18:27 |
| dmsimard | And rainbow colors. | 18:27 |
| trown | I will take any cultures good luck rituals if it makes the promote job pass | 18:28 |
| leanderthal|afk | wait, what? | 18:30 |
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| trown | leanderthal: what would your choice of good luck ritual be? | 18:31 |
| dmsimard | oh, trown, you mean you're dancing with leanderthal ? | 18:31 |
| trown | lol, it took me way to long to grok the connection | 18:31 |
| leanderthal | mwahahahahaha | 18:32 |
| leanderthal | trown, dmsimard https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1928809_518289541691_6028_n.jpg?oh=463b8e883574688f2c9b1cf9b6713f27&oe=57F8C658 | 18:32 |
| leanderthal | i *might* have a history. | 18:32 |
| trown | now that is a rain dance | 18:33 |
| leanderthal | tis | 18:33 |
| leanderthal | true story. | 18:33 |
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| amoralej|off | trown, no luck yet https://ci.centos.org/job/tripleo-quickstart-promote-master-delorean-minimal/294/ | 18:47 |
| trown | amoralej|off: well that was at least a deploy failure, so either something new or something transient... looking closer | 18:50 |
| amoralej|off | we are much closer that yesterday, :) | 18:50 |
| trown | amoralej|off: it is the 'no valid host' race that hits about 1/4 jobs, so we still might be good, will kick a new run | 18:51 |
| amoralej|off | sounds good | 18:51 |
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| pabelanger | jschlueter: Yup, I haven't pushed an updated recently. Something needed? | 19:05 |
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| jschlueter | pabelanger: is python-shade in RDO? and I missed it in my checks? | 19:12 |
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| pabelanger | jschlueter: I don't think so. I've just push updates to epel7 | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | and fedora | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | was a dependency for ansible and nodepool | 19:24 |
| jschlueter | pabelanger: ack that's what I thought, it wasn't in RDO at all thanks | 19:24 |
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| trown | hmm HA job failed with keystone issue in deploy... Error: /Stage[main]/Keystone::Roles::Admin/Keystone_tenant[admin]: Could not evaluate: Command: 'openstack [\"project\", \"set\", [\"7498d33e27714f529a1b7c62e6a76a71\", \"--description=admin tenant\"]]' has been running for more then 20 seconds! | 19:29 |
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| eggmaster | I'm trying to use local dlrn to build manila for mitaka (because I want to stage a review locally and get an RPM). I changed projects.ini to source=stable/mitaka. I checked out rpm-mitaka branch in openstack-manila_distro. I run 'dlrn --config projects.ini --dev --local --package-name openstack-manila' and I get 'ERROR:dlrn:Known error building packages for openstack-manila, will retry later' and this stacktrace in rpmbuild.log | 19:35 |
| eggmaster | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/383454/24100146/ | 19:35 |
| eggmaster | amidoingitwrong? | 19:35 |
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| dmsimard | eggmaster: looks like an aborted build that resulted in an unclean mock root unmount | 19:55 |
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| dmsimard | eggmaster: have you tried unmounting the mock root manually ? | 19:55 |
| eggmaster | dmsimard: thank you I'll try that | 19:55 |
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| dmsimard | trown: :( | 19:59 |
| eggmaster | dmsimard: that cleared it, thx again | 20:00 |
| dmsimard | eggmaster: cool ! | 20:00 |
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| trown | dmsimard: I am running a local HA run on the same image that failed to check if there is a real issue or not | 20:05 |
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| dmsimard | trown: dance harder ! | 20:09 |
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| trown | dmsimard: I am doing this https://media.giphy.com/media/13uydq0fmcPlew/giphy.gif | 20:11 |
| trown | hopefully it works | 20:11 |
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| dmsimard | trown: wow, you can do that with your hat on ? | 20:13 |
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| dmsimard | mad skills | 20:13 |
| dmsimard | :) | 20:13 |
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| trown | dmsimard: local run passed, so hopefully we have paid our race condition tax and the current run will end in promote | 20:38 |
| * trown keeps spinning | 20:38 | |
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| dmsimard | I want this promote to happen to see if it fixes weird issues in the weirdo gate jobs | 20:39 |
| dmsimard | weirdo gate jobs shouldn't fail in theory because they use current-passed-ci but they're sort of flappy | 20:39 |
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| dmsimard | which shouldn't happen | 20:39 |
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| trown | it is a bit rough that one of the chassis' in CI have so much better CPUs | 20:40 |
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| number80 | pradk: are you working on packaging pifpaf? | 20:45 |
| pradk | number80, its on my list, we need it soon? | 20:46 |
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| dmsimard | trown: weirdo puppet jobs *might* fail, maybe, maybe not | 20:46 |
| pradk | number80, i can get something out this week | 20:46 |
| trown | rifraf? | 20:46 |
| number80 | pradk: preferably before or not too long after M2 | 20:46 |
| number80 | trown: it's a french pun | 20:47 |
| trown | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eq-GWX3MrLA/UFSf0Xq8mkI/AAAAAAAAl-A/-gI-MyP3cx4/s1600/Lasanha+Pif+Paf.jpg ? | 20:47 |
| dmsimard | lolwat | 20:47 |
| number80 | nope | 20:47 |
| trown | that came up in google image search for pif paf | 20:47 |
| number80 | it's more like "bang bang" | 20:47 |
| dmsimard | yeah pif paf in french is like onomatopoeia for punches | 20:48 |
| dmsimard | trown: we discovered more network problems outbound from the ci.centos.org cloud | 20:49 |
| number80 | well, I don't need anyone to tell me who wrote this piece of code | 20:49 |
| dmsimard | trown: need to wait for IT to come back to the centos team ;( | 20:49 |
| pradk | number80, i'll get on it asap, thx | 20:50 |
| pradk | number80, we want this in fedora first right? | 20:50 |
| trown | how is there nothing describing why it is called pifpaf https://github.com/jd/pifpaf | 20:51 |
| number80 | pradk: yes but set me as a reviewer so that we can get this out sooner | 20:51 |
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| pradk | number80, sure | 20:51 |
| number80 | I'm still surprised that we didn't break CI | 20:51 |
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| number80 | dmsimard: we don't test aodh right? | 20:52 |
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| dmsimard | number80: we do | 20:52 |
| dmsimard | number80: through both packstack and p-o-i | 20:52 |
| number80 | weird, it should have detected that we don't have pifpaf | 20:52 |
| dmsimard | isn't pifpaf their unit test harness thingie ? | 20:52 |
| dmsimard | I haven't read into it | 20:52 |
| dmsimard | too much | 20:52 |
| number80 | it's an utility to run daemons for testing, so you were not too far | 20:53 |
| dmsimard | We don't run unit tests, only integration tests | 20:53 |
| number80 | that explains it | 20:54 |
| dmsimard | so unless it's a hard dependency (like, say, eventlet or whatever) we won't see it | 20:54 |
| number80 | well, I suspect that internal QA would want it anyway | 20:54 |
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| number80 | I'd like that we get all missing deps packaged before M3 | 20:55 |
| trown | N3? | 20:55 |
| number80 | Milestone 3 | 20:56 |
| trown | ah, I have been doing it wrong | 20:56 |
| number80 | I know that after that, I'll be machine-gunning builds like crazy | 20:57 |
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| number80 | *point | 20:57 |
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| number80 | all RC, point-releases, ensure that repo are consistent etc ... | 20:57 |
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| trown | pew pew pew... or is it pif pif paf | 21:03 |
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| * trown leaves before making any more dumb jokes... | 21:03 | |
| trown | will check on promote this evening to cry or rejoice as appropriate | 21:04 |
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| number80 | trown|outtypewww: actually, there's a virtualenvwrapper-like tool named pew | 21:11 |
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| dmsimard | trown|outtypewww: one is green, one to go ! | 22:09 |
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| dmsimard | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 22:21 |
| dmsimard | http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/ | 22:21 |
| apevec | failed? | 22:24 |
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| dmsimard | yeah | 22:25 |
| dmsimard | https://ci.centos.org/job/tripleo-quickstart-promote-master-delorean-ha/293/console | 22:25 |
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| apevec | Stack overcloud CREATE_FAILED | 22:26 |
| apevec | Deployment exited with non-zero status code: 6 | 22:27 |
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| misc | mhh so to deploy the dashboards of rdo, I need to install ruby gems | 22:35 |
| misc | so I need gcc on the webserver | 22:36 |
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| misc | that's annoying | 22:36 |
| apevec | also annoying, html quoting on the mailing list :) | 22:38 |
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| apevec | dmsimard, it's the same "running for more then 20 seconds" | 22:39 |
| apevec | retrigger? | 22:39 |
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