Wednesday, 2017-10-04

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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/tempest-distgit rpm-master: openstack-tempest: failed to build cc255bb  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992401:55
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/tempest-distgit rpm-master: openstack-tempest: failed to build cc255bb  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992505:32
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chandankumarykarel: i am on tempest ftbfs.05:56
ykarelchandankumar, ack05:57
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rdogerritchkumar246 proposed openstack/tempest-distgit rpm-master: Use stestr to run tempest unit tests  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992406:37
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rdogerritAditya Ramteke proposed openstack/os-client-config-distgit rpm-master: Moved package description to global variable.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/988907:42
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jpenagood morning07:44
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chandankumarjpena: amoralej|off number80 apevec \o/07:45
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chandankumarjpena: is there something wrong with rdo zuul? all jobs are in queue07:55
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jpenachandankumar: I'm checking07:55
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack master: Zuul v3 support for Packstack jobs  https://review.openstack.org/50843407:58
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for ocata-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992608:02
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for pike-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992708:04
jpenachandankumar: I have restarted nodepool and it seems to be working now. Jobs should start dequeueing08:04
chandankumarjpena: thanks :-)08:04
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/horizon-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to 11.0.4  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992808:06
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amoralejapevec, dalvarez is asking me about building ovs-2.7.3 for pike08:45
amoraleji've seen it's not in fedora and 2.8. is latest in fedora08:45
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amoralejcan we request 2.7.3 in fedora after 2.8 is built?08:45
amoralejor we need to do it directly in rdo?08:46
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apevecamoralej, dalvarez - ovs 2.8 is in Rawhide f28 only, 2.7.x is f27/26, let's ask tredaell to update f27 branch to 2.7.308:54
dalvareznumans, ^08:55
numansthanks.08:55
dalvarezapevec, amoralej thanks guys. If you want us to open a BZ or something requesting it we can do that08:55
apevecthen we rebase pike deps to 2.7.308:55
dalvarezawesome, i'll open the BZ for OSP12 as well08:55
apevecdalvarez, Fedora bz might be good08:56
numansapevec, FYI .. 2.8.1 is also released. if Rawhide f28 is also updated, we can revert the patch i submitted to apply a fix to ovs 2.808:56
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dalvarezapevec, ack thanks, will do08:56
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apevecnumans, ack 2.8.1 is in rawhide, I'll rebase rdo-common08:57
numansapevec, thanks. 2.8.0-2 is still not available for queens repo right ?08:57
apevecqueens deps repo is wip, but really close now08:57
numansapevec, ok cool. once 2.8.1 is available in queens-testing, i will rerun the patch to test for regression.08:58
apevecnumans, NB queens deps will be at new location https://review.openstack.org/50887008:59
numansapevec, thanks for the info.08:59
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apevecdalvarez, there are fedora bzs filed by Upstream Release Monitoring like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1468234 but that bot doesn't understand stable branches afaict09:04
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1468234 in openvswitch "openvswitch-2.7.1 is available" [Unspecified,On_qa] - Assigned to tredaelli09:04
apevecso it's now filing only for the latest 2.8.x releases09:04
dalvarezapevec, shall i then open a new bz in fedora for OVS requesting 2.7.3?09:05
apeveclet's reuse https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146823409:05
openstackbugzilla.redhat.com bug 1468234 in openvswitch "openvswitch-2.7.1 is available" [Unspecified,On_qa] - Assigned to tredaelli09:05
apevecwhich is still open09:05
dalvarezapevec, but that's old :) unless i rename the title it may be confusing?09:06
apevecyes, that's what I mean09:06
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apevecupdate summary and add comment saying 2.7.1 is obsoleted by 2.7.3 now09:06
dalvarezapevec, ah got it thanks a lot! will do that in a min09:07
rdogerritMerged openstack/glare-distgit pike-rdo: Update to 0.4.1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/984909:07
dalvarezapevec, sry for asking but... should i then flip the state to NEW? hope noone gets mad at me :)09:08
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apevecyes, filp to new, I don't think Timothy will get mad, afaik he's a nice guy09:09
dalvarezapevec, on it :) thx09:09
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/glare-distgit pike-rdo: openstack-glare: failed to build 5c0139f  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992909:18
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rdogerritMerged openstack/tempest-distgit rpm-master: Use stestr to run tempest unit tests  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992409:32
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apevecjpena, http://zuulv3.openstack.org/ check queue is really busy, https://review.openstack.org/508434 will take ages to get to the top there...09:35
jpenaapevec: we can wait for now. They have switched back to zuul v2 as main gate09:35
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apevecyeah, but v3 with reduced capacity will not help people willing to migrate...09:36
apevecimho legacy-* should be just removed09:36
jpenayes, the whole situation is getting complicated09:36
apevecand let projects migrate to native v3 jobs with some reasonable deadlines09:36
apevecdmsimard, pabelanger, ^ was that discussed as an option? /me was not following closely discussions last night09:38
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apevecnumans, 2.8.1 built in queens-candidate http://cbs.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2004809:39
numansapevec, thats cool. thanks.09:39
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numansapevec, i will update the patch to test it.. hope you are fine going from ovs 2.7.2 -> ovs 2.8.0-2 -> ovs 2.8.1 in queens repo09:42
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toskythanks for the sahara* merges!09:55
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created config master: Run graffiti command from rdoinfo directory  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993010:01
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rdogerritChristopher Brown proposed openstack/saharaclient-distgit rpm-master: enable unit tests  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/945010:19
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed config master: Run graffiti command from rdoinfo directory  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993010:19
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for ocata-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992610:20
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created config master: Change topic for CBS updates generated by bot  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993110:35
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created config master: Add noop jobs to gating_scripts repo  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993210:43
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amoralejapevec, https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9931 will change topic for reviews generated by bot10:55
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amoralejbut i still need to differentiate between -testing and -release, si ti will be <release>-<phase>-update10:55
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amoralejwe still can see all reviews related to updates using https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:%255Enewton.*update10:56
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apevecamoralej, ack, +W https://review.rdoproject.org/r/9931 when you're ready11:08
apevec(I removed my -W b/c I realized you need to rename existing reviews)11:08
amoralejapevec, yeah, sure11:09
rdogerritMerged config master: Change topic for CBS updates generated by bot  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993111:09
rdogerritMerged config master: Add noop jobs to gating_scripts repo  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993211:10
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware-distgit rpm-master: Disable warning-is-error  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/871411:14
rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed openstack/oslo-vmware-distgit rpm-master: Add python-eventlet as BuildRequires  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/863111:15
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for pike-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992711:18
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rdobot[sensu] RESOLVED: master.monitoring.rdoproject.org - check-delorean-pike-current @ http://tinyurl.com/y9q43qte |#| No build failures detected: http://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-pike/report.html11:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack master: Disable Keystone v2 tests for Tempest  https://review.openstack.org/50756511:33
rdogerritJavier Peña created openstack/magnum-distgit rpm-master: Add openstack-macros as a build requirement  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993311:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack master: Define key_manager/api_class to a cass full path  https://review.openstack.org/50857112:22
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/packstack-distgit rpm-master: openstack-packstack: failed to build 68abca3  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993412:36
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo created openstack/packstack-distgit rpm-master: Revert "Define key_manager/api_class to a cass full path"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993513:04
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed config master: Run graffiti command from rdoinfo directory  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993013:14
sfbenderHaïkel Guémar proposed graffiti master: Use rdoinfo database to detect CBS tags  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/980513:15
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rdogerritMerged openstack/packstack-distgit rpm-master: Revert "Define key_manager/api_class to a cass full path"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993513:17
number80amoralej: for the reviews 9930 and 9914, I'm open to any option you think is better13:18
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number80There's also the possibility to use the --info-repo switch after we merge the graffiti change, but the config file way avoids any disruption13:19
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rdogerritMerged openstack/packstack-distgit pike-rdo: drop Req puppet-mongodb from openstack-packstack-puppet  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/974413:20
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dmsimardapevec, jpena, amoralej: v3 is no longer gating13:24
dmsimardevery project is back to v213:24
amoralejyeah, i saw the mails13:24
dmsimardv3 is starved almost purposefully in order to keep enough capacity in v2 to unblock projects13:24
dmsimardthey are working on improving performances and already came up with a great change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509309/13:25
apevecdmsimard, right, so I'm saying why not remove all legacy-*13:25
apevecand let project migrate to zuul v3 native as they like13:25
dmsimardapevec: because the point is to keep the load on to keep improving things and also to allow projects to check their legacy jobs13:25
dmsimardbrb kid school13:25
apevechmm, not sure how this will work, but ok13:25
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toskyapevec: I suspect that when the load/slowdown issues are solved, there will be a new push to migrate13:28
toskyso better be prepared13:28
number80tosky: I hope they will start migrating progressively projects just to obverse how to behave first13:28
toskynumber80: that's why having projects ready will help13:29
toskybut we will notice how zuul3 works, because it's still active, it just does not vote with +213:29
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apevectosky, yes, but migration with legacy-* just doesn't feel right13:31
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apevecprojects doing it conciously like Packstack https://review.openstack.org/508434 would be better13:32
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dmsimardapevec: the problem is that v2 and v3 can't both be gating13:36
apevecthat's fine, let's make v3 check work first13:37
dmsimardapevec: right now v2 is gating, and that is actually a big problem because that means someone could merge a typo in a zuul.yaml file and break v3 entirely13:37
apevecyeah, I saw post from Monty13:37
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apevecwhy is v3 not more resilient to that? e.g. just block offending project?13:38
dmsimardit's by design that the zuul configuration is aggregated from every project in the "tenant"13:38
dmsimardthat's why packstack can use jobs or roles defined in project-config13:39
dmsimardor zuul-jobs, or openstack-zuul-jobs13:39
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apevecunderstood, but why not just skip project with broken v3 config?13:39
dmsimardif v3 is gating, you can't merge an error because zuul will not allow you to do that13:39
apeveclet it suffer not everybody13:39
dmsimardmaybe they'll do that in the future, right now it's not handled that way13:40
apeveceven with gating13:40
apevecok13:40
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pabelangerapevec: if we don't force migrate projects to legacy- (migration scripts) they'd never migrate13:45
pabelangerit is going to be hard enough getting projects to stop using legacy-* and write zuulv3 playbooks13:45
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack master: Zuul v3 support for Packstack jobs  https://review.openstack.org/50843413:52
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dmsimardpabelanger: +113:55
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adarazsdmsimard: hi! I'm trying to rework the phase1 promotion pipelines https://review.rdoproject.org/r/9919 -- I will need to add URLTrigger to the individual Weirdo jobs.14:09
dmsimardadarazs: oi, let me see14:09
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adarazsdmsimard: I am just looking through the jobs and I don't see how they get the this overridden: delorean_hash=${delorean_current_hash:-current}14:10
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adarazsdmsimard: I'm just trying to make sure that they are not getting some overrides from other steps. which they probably do through the propery file that I'm trying to remove.14:11
adarazswe should make them standalone.14:11
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dmsimardadarazs: If we're doing away with multijobs, let's drop the promote jobs and use the generic jobs instead. They are already used remotely from review.rdo too.14:16
dmsimardadarazs: generic jobs are basically fully parameterized and you can trigger them with anything14:16
dmsimardYou can see for example how we're doing the puppet promotion process with generic jobs here: https://github.com/rdo-infra/ci-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/weirdo-promote-puppet.yml14:17
adarazsdmsimard: how would we trigger them? I wanted to add a URLTrigger to check for changes on https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-$release/current-tripleo/14:17
adarazs.../delorean.repo :)14:18
jpenachandankumar: I'm checking some packages in the Fedora worker, and several are failing because there is no python3-tempest package. Is this something we can prepare?14:18
dmsimardadarazs: the way I would see things working is that there would be a parent job (with the URLTrigger) that would trigger the right jobs with the right parameters14:18
adarazsdmsimard: also it would be good to keep dedicated promotion jobs, still good for checking their history.14:18
adarazsdmsimard: but those generic jobs shouldn't report back to DLRN API. so I think there's no good reason for not having separate promotion jobs.14:19
chandankumarjpena: which project needs python3-tempest?14:19
adarazsit seems a lot more simple. what do you gain by having only these super parameterized job? we need anyway an extra job for it.14:19
chandankumarjpena: i can update that14:19
adarazsto trigger it.14:19
jpenachandankumar: so far, I've found python-patrole and python-*-tests-tempest (where * is keystone/novajoin/watcher/barbican)14:19
pandadmsimard: jpena I just replied to adarazs mail regarding where to put the promotion script. Unless we run the promotions in jenkins, crdentials to access the images server are needed. Can you create them ?14:19
chandankumarjpena: one question how to use dlrn to use fedora builder locally?14:20
adarazsjpena: btw thanks for the reply to that email. I understood that you didn't want to put this logic directly in DLRN, that's why I made the script :)14:20
dmsimardadarazs: we're able to do anything we want with 7 jobs instead of having to create, monitor and maintain 90 jobs, that's the advantage :p14:20
toskyjpena: oh, do we have tempest plugins compiled with python3? Isn't it a bit useless without tempest itself (which I'm not sure that supports python3 fully?)14:20
dmsimardadarazs, jpena: replying to that thread is on my todo btw14:20
jpenatosky: that's my point :)14:20
chandankumartosky: for tempest tests are running on python314:21
adarazsdmsimard: umm, it's an advantage to have separate job for promotion, having a history for them, and what handles the jobs is a few lines of JJB.14:21
adarazsdmsimard: it's not like you have to maintain them... we can use the same builder, but we anyway need separate job-template for the trigger and the DLRN API reporting.14:21
chandankumarbut tempest plugins needs to checked where they have py3 jobs or not first upstream14:21
adarazsdmsimard: not really making any difference if you add something that triggers another job in that or the builder to run the weirdo job.14:22
dmsimardadarazs: anyway I don't have a strong opinion on this, I'm saying that I have a personal preference towards less jobs with more flexibility rather than N jobs to expand X parameters14:22
toskychandankumar: so there is a tempest job which runs "full" using python3?14:22
adarazsdmsimard: there is really zero reduction in complexity that I see.14:22
jpenachandankumar: I use this config -> https://review.rdoproject.org/paste/show/46/14:22
dmsimardadarazs: back to your question, if you want to keep the promotion jobs and add an urltrigger to them, that's fine14:23
jpenapanda: there's something I'm not getting. Do you mean you need to add an ssh key created in the promotion server to images.rdoproject.org?14:24
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adarazsdmsimard: cool. so I will make a few alterations for them to fetch the proper hash instead of using the property file.14:24
pandajpena: or whatever is needed to access the server via ssh with a rsync to change the link to the latest promoted images14:25
chandankumartosky: gate-tempest-dsvm-py35-ubuntu-xenial and gate-tempest-python3514:25
chandankumartosky: one run full tempest tests on py3 and another run unit tests14:25
toskychandankumar: ok, full14:25
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chandankumarbest let me create subpackages for python2 and python314:27
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jpenapanda: ack. So what's the ssh public key, and which user do you need to connect to in images.rdo'14:27
chandankumarjpena: one more question how we are renaming openstack-packages for python2 and python3?14:27
jpenachandankumar: so far we haven't renamed any openstack-* package, just the python-* subpackages14:28
chandankumarjpena: so we are going to keep their binaries files as it depending on python2 package am i right?14:29
jpenaI would start with that, yes14:29
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number80Damn, remind me that we need to have proper contributing policies14:30
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pandajpena: sending pm14:34
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jpenadmsimard: do we set this kind of ssh keys in the ansible roles?14:37
dmsimardjpena: the image server isn't fully ansibilized yet, just add it to the uploader user for the time being14:37
dmsimardmake sure the key has a comment to identify it14:38
jpenadmsimard: ack14:38
rdogerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-common-distgit rpm-master: Ship tripleo-config-download script  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/983014:39
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rdogerritJon Schlueter proposed puppet/puppet-certmonger-distgit ocata-rdo: Update to v1.1.1 tag official tag  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/992014:40
apevecjpena, is https://trunk.rdoproject.org/centos7-ocata/report.html stuck or simply on upstream patches on stable/ocata ?14:41
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apevecs/on upstream*/no upstream*/14:42
jpenaapevec: it's not stuck, just that no ocata patches have been merged lately14:42
jpena(which is understandable with all the Zuul v3 stuff)14:42
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dalvarezamoralej, apevec: looks like Timothy was super fast: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-3063b2255e  :)14:51
rdogerritEmilien Macchi created openstack/tripleo-common-distgit rpm-master: Cleanup fake scripts  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993614:51
apevecdalvarez, I told you, nice guy14:52
dalvarez\o/14:52
dalvarezapevec, shall i open a new bz now for RDO?14:52
apevecnope, I'm rebasing it now14:53
number80meeting in 5 min14:53
number80update agenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting14:53
dalvarezapevec++ thanks a lot14:56
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rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-common-distgit rpm-master: Ship tripleo-config-download script  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/983014:59
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amoralejmeeting time15:00
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amoralejstartmeeting RDO meeting - 2017-10-0415:00
amoralej#startmeeting RDO meeting - 2017-10-0415:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  4 15:00:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is amoralej. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2017_10_04'15:00
amoralej#topic roll call15:00
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chandankumar\o/15:01
rbowenyo15:01
jpenao/15:01
jschluetero/15:01
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amoralej#chair chandankumar rbowen jpena jschlueter15:02
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej chandankumar jpena jschlueter rbowen15:02
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jruzicka15:02
amoralej#chair jruzicka15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej chandankumar jpena jruzicka jschlueter rbowen15:03
chandankumarjruzicka: which client you use?15:03
chandankumarjruzicka: i did not get smiles on weechat15:03
jruzickachandankumar, hexchat. has it's problems, but which IRC software doesn't :)15:03
number80o/15:03
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jruzickachandankumar, yeah I'm pushing for unicode this way ;)15:04
number80chandankumar: update weechat, it works :)15:04
chandankumarnumber80: sure.15:04
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amoralej#chair number8015:04
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej chandankumar jpena jruzicka jschlueter number80 rbowen15:04
amoralejok15:04
* number80 prefers old style smileys15:04
amoralejlet's start with the first topic15:04
rbowen:)15:04
amoralej#topic ci-config cores15:05
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amoralej#info https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/2017-September/msg00008.html15:05
amoraleji'm not sure who added that15:05
amoralejanyone know who added that topic?15:06
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number80apevec: ^15:06
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apevecI have not, I just added comment15:06
apevecadarazs, ^ ?15:06
myoungo/15:06
apeveche posted it on rdo-list15:06
number80oh, I assumed from the colors15:07
adarazsapevec: hi15:07
amoralej#chair myoung15:07
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej chandankumar jpena jruzicka jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen15:07
number80#chair myoung15:07
openstackCurrent chairs: amoralej chandankumar jpena jruzicka jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen15:07
adarazsapevec: it was weshay, but it might as well have been me :)15:07
adarazso/15:07
adarazsamoralej: ^15:07
amoralejso, we need to define some policies about how to become core to config15:07
adarazsso anyway, we would like to get those rights, and we don't know what else to do.15:07
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apevecadarazs, sign here, in blood ;)15:08
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Duckquack15:08
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adarazsapevec: sure, that's standard procedure I think :)15:08
apevecseriously, I've linked some other infras guidelines, we could look at that15:08
chandankumar#chair Duck15:08
openstackCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej chandankumar jpena jruzicka jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen15:08
Duckchandankumar: thanks :-)15:09
trowno/15:09
amoralej#chair trown15:09
openstackCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej chandankumar jpena jruzicka jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen trown15:09
adarazsyeah but instead of trying to make an example out of us and blocking this for another month, can we just get the blessings and you can develop these policies in peace? :)15:09
number80Well, from a general perspective, having clear guidelines to determine how one can become core is healthy15:09
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number80(up to infra group to determine what are the requirements)15:09
adarazsor is there something against us submitting stuff regarding our job definitions there?15:10
amoralejjust note that granting permissions to config project will provide access not only to ci, but to all review.r.o config, there is no separated repo for ci config15:10
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adarazsyeah, maybe we should change that. I don't want to have access to all those, but it feels important to be able to change the jobs we rely on for upstream CI.15:11
jatanmaldeo/15:11
amoralejadarazs, i'm in favor of having folks from ci team to submit ci jobs, you are much more familiar that us to tripleo jobs configs15:11
dmsimardadarazs is already core15:11
amoralej#chair jatanmalde15:11
openstackCurrent chairs: Duck amoralej chandankumar jatanmalde jpena jruzicka jschlueter myoung number80 rbowen trown15:11
adarazsyeah, but I got added long time ago by apevec for some not related testing I did.15:12
adarazs:)15:12
trownotoh... it is slightly better already then the current relationship between tripleo-ci and openstack-infra... at least we have a couple folks who can merge stuff15:12
adarazsyeah.15:12
number80If the issue is that perms == too much access, we can work toward isolating roles maybe?15:12
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amoralej#info current comitters are https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/admin/groups/6,members15:13
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dmsimardWe're not going to make everyone core but on the other hand we do not have criterias for becoming core. I would suggest that you propose two cores, we get a consensus on these two and we ramp them up on non-obvious things15:14
dmsimardThe policy for reviewing would be one of trust, not unlike what is happening in TripleO right now where people review things they are familiar on and may not approve something they aren't familiar with15:14
amoralejadarazs, ^ what do you think?15:15
rdogerritAditya Ramteke proposed openstack/designateclient-distgit rpm-master: Moved package description to global variable.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/989715:15
dmsimardi.e, if you're changing something that is not tripleo-specific (pipelines, nodepool config, shared jobs, etc.), we need to have a "rdo" core to weigh in15:15
number80dmsimard: sounds like a good plan15:15
amoralej+115:16
adarazsthis is what I expected... "please only submit to these parts that you understand, enjoy your core rights" :)15:16
trownamoralej: is that accurate... could swear I have +2'd there15:16
* number80 thinks myoung is a good candidate15:16
amoralejtrown, yes15:16
amoralejhttps://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/admin/groups/2411,members15:16
amoralejprovenpackages also have +2/-215:16
dmsimardI think this is all common sense but we can formalize it in writing somewhere15:16
trownah ok15:16
amoralej#undo15:16
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openstackRemoving item from minutes: #link https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/admin/groups/2411,members15:16
amoralej#undo15:17
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #info current comitters are https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/admin/groups/6,members15:17
number80amoralej: well, it's useful to have them but only use them for emergencies15:17
amoralej#info current commiters are  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/admin/groups/6,members and https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/admin/groups/2411,members15:17
* number80 don't give +W on infra reviews15:17
number80If we have enough infra cores, I'd be ok to reconsider15:18
jpenaI'd suggest to start with dmsimard's proposal, and I can propose a formal policy somewhere in https://www.rdoproject.org/infra/15:18
adarazsso yeah, this is what I expected. otherwise better ACLs are welcome, but for now I think we could just get some more people on that core list. sshnaidm|pto and panda are not going to (willfully ;) destroy things. :)15:18
adarazs+ trown15:18
trownI have +2 through provenpackagers15:19
amoralej#action jpena to propose a formal policy about becoming core for infra15:19
trownbecause a long time ago I proved I can package15:19
jschlueterhmm I don't have permissions to see the second linke to 2411,members15:19
adarazstrown: makes sense then to have all the rights for everything else then ;)15:19
dmsimardlet's start with no more than two formal cores, we can revisit later if we need to.15:19
number80jschlueter: you shouldn't need perms for that, unless you're not logged in15:20
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dmsimardthis doesn't prevent anyone from sending patches, it makes it easier to merge them15:20
adarazsnumber80: FWIW I don't see that link either.15:20
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adarazsnumber80: while logged in.15:20
jschlueterI'm logged in but it gives me an error and shows nothing15:20
number80Well, I have that when I try to look as anonymous user15:21
jschlueterCode Review - Error15:21
jschlueterThe page you requested was not found, or you do not have permission to view this page.15:21
Ducknumber80: same problem on the second link15:21
jschlueterfirst link I can see15:21
amoralejjschlueter, can you see https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/admin/groups/6,members?15:21
adarazsanyway, so do I have to propose sshnaidm|pto and panda again here formally? or do I have to propose myself again?15:21
number80(first rule of the provenpackager group, you can't see the list of the group)15:21
adarazshehe :)15:21
jschlueteramoralej: yes15:21
* jschlueter nods to number80 15:21
number80Well, let's see with SF folks later15:23
Ducknumber80: why hide the list at all?15:23
number80Duck: I don't know, I don't understand gerrit configuration at all15:23
* Duck hahaha :-)15:23
amoralej:)15:23
dmsimardadarazs: I'm +1 on sshnaidm|pto but I can't +1 panda. He's improving but needs more time.15:24
dmsimardadarazs: you are a fine candidate however15:24
adarazsokay, with trown, Sagi and myself we have enough people to submit stuff there when necessary if we have some emergency.15:25
dmsimardjpena, apevec, amoralej, number80 ^ ack ?15:25
jpena+115:25
amoralej+115:25
number80+115:25
adarazsanyway you guys made good and quick reviews on our changes, but I think most of the time it doesn't really make sense for you to spend time on our job changes.15:25
rdogerritAditya Ramteke proposed openstack/networking-bigswitch-distgit rpm-master: Moved package description to global variable.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/987115:25
number80adarazs: we agree on that15:25
amoralej#agreed to give core access to config project to adarazs trown and sshnaidm|pto15:25
number80done15:26
dmsimarddidn't get apevec's ack but democracy ?15:26
* number80 updated the group15:26
amoralejmaybe we coulud use a office hours session to cover config project15:26
dmsimardnumber80: no don't do that15:26
dmsimardnumber80: you need to use the resources config15:27
number80ack15:27
* number80 undo15:27
number80Attila was already in the group15:27
chandankumaramoralej: +1 may be any day in tuesday RDO office hour15:27
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jschlueterchandankumar: that would actually be a decent idea, from my point of view15:29
* apevec tests democracy++15:29
apevec-115:29
jschlueterget a few more people paying attention to things during office hours15:29
apevecnow what :)15:29
jschlueterapevec: you didn't -2 so still passes :-)15:30
apeveccorrect answer!15:30
chandankumaradarazs: what about a sessioon on project-config in rdo office hour?15:30
chandankumar*session15:30
adarazsthanks folks for taking the time for adding us.15:30
jatanmalde+1 chandankumar15:30
chandankumars/project-config/config15:31
rbowenSo, we're still on topic 1 and it's half past.15:31
adarazschandankumar: oh okay, this makes more sense. but what do you mean?15:31
number80apevec: ballot is closed!15:31
* number80 hides15:32
number80yep, next topic15:32
adarazschandankumar: what do you mean by session about the config? should I explain stuff about it or what? :)15:32
number80adarazs: having a visio call to explain the CI setup and all relevant info15:33
number80but let's discuss that later15:33
chandankumaradarazs: yup the same15:33
adarazsokay. it's fairly simple, but we can do that.15:33
adarazsat least what's concerning the config repo.15:34
trownadarazs: I think the knowledge transfer was meant in the other direction :P15:34
number80amoralej: I think next topic is yours15:34
number80(and we have plenty today)15:34
adarazstrown: haha, okay :D15:34
amoralejyeah15:34
amoralejlet's move on15:34
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amoralej#topic Mock 1.4 and network access in DLRN workers15:34
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amoralejjpena?15:34
jpenayes15:34
jpenaso quick info: earlier this week we updated mock in the DLRN instances, and that brought a change in the default config15:35
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jpenabefore, when building packages with DLRN, we always had networking enabled, but now mock has changed to use nspawn and the default is no external networking15:35
jpenaThis broke glare (https://review.rdoproject.org/r/9929)15:36
number80Well, it mirrors Koji setup which is a good thing15:36
jpenafor now, I have re-enabled networking as a quickfix, but I wondered if we want to keep it disabled to avoid issues when building in Koji later15:36
number80Glare is special case, the test case require networking is fairly recent (otherwise, it would have failed in CBS)15:37
amoralejnumber80,  it failed15:37
amoraleji disabled unit tests because of that for CBS15:37
number80amoralej: I mean for the previous build, sorry15:37
amoralejthis was first cbs build ever for glare, :)15:37
apevecthat's bad unittest15:37
apevecby definition15:37
number80jpena: I'm +1 to use no networking setup, that's the role for DLRN to detect those issues15:37
apevecneeds to be fixed upstream15:37
* number80 notices that the person who wrote that test is a RDOer15:38
amoralejnumber80, i agree15:38
apevecis there LP ?15:38
jpenawe have some other similar cases, like docs using intersphinx15:38
amoralejnot, i left a message to mfedosin in the review15:38
amoralejbut didn't receive feedback15:38
amoraleji'll create a LP15:38
mfedosinhey15:38
amoralej:)15:39
rdogerritMerged openstack/oslo-vmware-distgit rpm-master: Add python-eventlet as BuildRequires  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/863115:39
mfedosinsecond please :)15:39
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amoralejmfedosin, we are disabling networking access whild building packages, so glare unit test fail because it get a file from outside15:39
mfedosinohh,15:40
number80downstream review is  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9929/15:40
mfedosinyes, we do15:40
amoralejapart from glare, some packages need access to internet to build docs, but i think we patched all or most of them15:40
amoralejas part of the warning is error15:40
amoralejso that should be ok also15:40
amoralejso, anyone against disabling networking access in DLRN?15:41
mfedosinokay, I'll fix it - I wanted to do it long time ago15:41
amoralejthanks mfedosin15:41
number80*nods*15:41
amoralejjpena, for glare we'll have to disable tests until fix is pushed15:42
jpenacool15:42
amoralejif we want to disable networking15:42
jpenaI'm +1 for disabling networking15:42
jpenait'll create some ftbfs, but that's good15:42
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amoralejyeah15:42
number80+115:42
chandankumar+115:42
jschlueter+1 for disabling networking15:42
amoralej#action jpena to disable networking in DLRN runs for all workers15:43
amoralejnext topic?15:43
jpenayes15:43
amoralej#topic OpenStack SIG in Fedora15:43
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amoralej#info https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/2017-September/msg00072.html15:43
amoralej#info Initial slate: amoralej, apevec, chandankumar, dmsimard, jpena, snecklifter, tonyb, tristanC and hguemar15:44
amoralejnumber80, ^15:44
number80Well, since we're short on time, and most people signed up by their own will (or mine :P), I suggest that we vote directly :)15:44
rbowenIs this just clients, or services also?15:45
rbowenOr is that to be determined?15:45
number80rbowen: only clients for now15:45
apevecclients + oslo15:45
rbowenok, good.15:45
rbowenThanks.15:45
apevecservices are in rdo trunk Fedora (WIP)15:45
amoraleji'm +1 about the plan in your mail number8015:45
number80Make OpenStack clients great again is the motto15:45
rdogerritAditya Ramteke proposed openstack/gnocchiclient-distgit rpm-master: Move package description to global variable.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/990315:46
chandankumarnumber80: are we including dependencies also apart from clients + oslo in this group?15:46
number80chandankumar: any dependencies that we can transfer to the SIG15:46
apevecchandankumar, if general python-* it shouldn't be in that SIG, rather in python SIG15:46
number80Well, both SIG can co-maintain it15:46
chandankumargot it. :-)15:46
apevecok, that works15:46
chandankumarcross sig calloboration15:47
number80so anyone opposes it?15:47
rbowenDOO EET15:47
number80#action number80 start paperwork to create the Fedora OpenStack SIG15:47
number80well, alea jacta est15:47
amoralejnice15:47
snecklifterwell said, number8015:48
amoralej#topic RDO booth volunteers needed for OpenStack Summit - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-sydney-summit-booth15:48
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amoralejrbowen, ^15:48
rbowen#info RDO booth volunteers needed for OpenStack Summit - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-sydney-summit-booth15:48
rbowenNo more to say. :-)15:48
amoralej:)15:48
amoralej#topic Tentative test day schedule - https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/ - please point out any date conflicts15:49
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rbowen#info Tentative test day schedule - https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/ - please point out any date conflicts15:49
rbowenReally not much more to say there, either.15:49
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number80rbowen: I suggest that call to be shared on the internal Red Hat openstack dev list as we have few people going there15:49
rbowenAlthough a couple of those dates conflict with events that some folks may be at.15:49
rbowennumber80: I also copied it to that list, this morning.15:49
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number80rbowen: sorry, I must have wrong filters15:50
amoralejnumber80, dates look ok to me15:50
amoralejrbowen, ^15:50
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rdogerritAditya Ramteke proposed openstack/gnocchiclient-distgit rpm-master: Move package description to global variable.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/990315:50
amoraleji just hope to be able to start getting promotions soon15:50
amoralejin master15:50
rbowenIN particular, the February one is during FOSDEM which I know a number of you attend.15:50
jpenasame here, no evident issues15:50
amoralejwe haven't promoted in about 3 weeks15:50
* number80 is ok but travelling for both M1 and M2 test days (which is not a blocker)15:51
rbowenAnyways, nothing more to say on this topic.15:51
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amoralej#topic DLRN Release format15:51
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amoralejis this from jruzicka?15:52
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number80should be15:52
amoralejso, the point is fi we want to stay with the current format for release in DLRN builds or want to move to something compatible with fedora15:53
jpenaa compatible format would be 0.1.<date>.<hash> ?15:53
amoraleji think there were some discussions some time ago15:53
number80yes, and possible the 0.1 is bumpable15:54
amoralej0.1.<date>.<hash> or 0.<date>.<hash>.1 ?15:54
amoraleji'm not sure what was the best option15:54
jpenaso that format only has one issue: upgrades between the packages with the old format and the new format won't be possible15:54
amoralejah, yeah15:54
jpena0.1.<date>.<hash> I mean15:54
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number80amoralej: 0.1.<date>.<hash> is the correct form (for upgrade path) but we can append .1 .2 for rebuilds15:55
amoralejwe discussed if doing it configurable and implement it only in master first15:55
chandankumar0.1.<date>.<hash> +115:55
number80(so third option)15:55
jpenaoh, sure15:55
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amoralejbut in that case, when dlrn bumps release15:55
amoralejwhat digit would it bump?15:55
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amoralejnot dlrn, rdopkg i mean15:55
amoraleji think that was the real issue15:55
jpenain any case, we need to accept that change for queens if we want to do it now15:56
jpenardopkg would bump the 1 in 0.1....15:56
jruzickaoh, sorry15:56
number80Yep15:56
amoralejso rdopkg always bump second digit in release?15:56
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* jruzicka got lost in gerrit15:57
jruzickardopkg always bumps last numeric part of release15:57
jruzickait can be changed to any behavior but I need to know what it should do :)15:57
amoralejthen in 0.1.<date>.<hash> it would bump hash?15:57
amoralejok15:57
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jruzickaI have draft for current format support I still think it might be worth the change, what's your point o n that?15:58
amoralejyeah, it doesn't make sense to bump date or hash15:58
apevecrdopkg does hexa?15:58
jruzickaespescially jpena15:58
jruzickaapevec, no and it's a problem when it will bump hexadigit string when it only contains digits15:58
jpenajruzicka: I think it's a good idea to make the release more compatible with fedora, just want to make sure nobody yells at us when upgrades don't work between to hashes :)15:58
jruzickajpena, allright, cool.15:59
jruzicka0.1.<date>.<hash> sounds OK15:59
apeveclet's break it now15:59
jruzickaFedora always bumps the second part?15:59
rdogerritAditya Ramteke proposed openstack/oslo-versionedobjects-distgit rpm-master: Moved package description to global variable.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/988316:00
amoralejjruzicka, in pre-release i think so16:00
jruzickaapevec, and that answers my question whether I shoud support current format or wait for the new one I guess ;)16:00
apevecjruzicka, you need to support both, we'll break master only16:00
jruzickaapevec, OK, cool, at least the code I wrote will have some use ;)16:01
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jruzickacan someone articulate the change with and #info or #action?16:01
jpena#action jpena to propose DLRN patch to change release to 0.1.<date>.<hash> as a configurable option16:02
amoralejin what case will we be bumping the release16:02
rdogerritGabriele Cerami created rdo-infra/ci-config master: cloud images promotion: disable removal of previously promoted images  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993716:02
jruzickajpena, please add me as reviewer ;)16:02
amoraleji mean if someone bumps it to 0.2.x.y that will always be higher that more recent 0.1.x.y until a new version is release16:02
amoralejjschlueter, ^ is that ok?16:03
jpenajruzicka: ack16:03
amoralejwell, that can be discussed in the review16:03
* chandankumar reminds meeting time cross > 3 mins16:03
amoralejok, we are out of time16:03
jschlueteramoralej: should be ok with me16:03
jruzicka#action jruzicka to support both current and new DLRN release format in rdopkg16:03
amoralejok, are we done with this topic jruzicka16:04
amoralej?16:04
jruzickaamoralej, indeed16:04
amoralej#topic open floor16:04
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jschlueterI think as long as next dlrn build is greater than that... or I will have to do extra work to detect this condition16:04
amoralejany topic you want to bring?16:04
amoralejjschlueter, that's my point, i think dlrn will not16:04
amoralejbut we can discuss it after the meeting16:05
amoralejany volunteer for next week meeting?16:05
jpenaI can do it16:05
amoralej#action jpena will chair next meeting16:06
amoralejok, i think we are done16:06
amoralejthank you all for joining16:06
amoralej#endmeeting16:06
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jschlueteramoralej, jruzicka: then not so in favor of default behavior being that ... but want to look at implementation or examples before I give judgement16:06
amoralejjpena, jschlueter jruzicka so my understanding is16:07
amoralej1. dlrn creates foo-1.0.1-0.1.date1.hash116:07
amoralej2. rdopkg bumps and creates foo-1.0.1-0.2.date1.hash116:07
amoralej3. dlrn next build will be foo-1.0.1-0.1.date2.hash216:08
apevecright16:08
amoralejwhere foo-1.0.1-0.1.date2.hash2 > foo-1.0.1-0.1.date1.hash116:08
apevecso whoever does manual bump, will need to redo it16:08
apevecthat's a feature IMO16:08
amoralejbut foo-1.0.1-0.1.date2.hash2 < fuu-1.0.1-0.2.date1.hash116:09
amoralejis that ok ?16:09
amoralejs/fuu/foo/16:09
apevecyes b/c we cannot know if patch introduced in 0.2 is included in date2.has216:09
jschlueterfrom a downstream usage that breaks how we use it right now...16:10
amoralejyeah, in fact we are asuming it isn't16:10
apevec0.1 will mean = vanilla upstream source16:10
amoralejif we do 0.date.hash.116:10
jschlueterwe right now rely on the fact that it bumps date+1(s) and drops hash16:10
apevecd/s patches are pain and that's who is should be16:11
jschlueterso that 0.date2.hash2 is greater than 0.date+116:11
apevechow*16:11
apevechmm, date+1 ?16:11
apevec1d16:11
apevec1s16:11
apevec?16:11
jschlueter1s16:11
apevecagain, you assume your d/s patch is included in the newer build16:12
apevecwhich might not be true16:12
rdogerritAditya Ramteke proposed openstack/ovsdbapp-distgit rpm-master: Moved package description to global variable.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/989916:12
jschlueteryep and relies on someone looking at it when doing next import but having it drop the hash part of for us is actually a decent side effect as it makes it easier to spot16:13
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jruzickardopkg bumping date1 and dropping the hash is really an untested codepath, it's rather a random pattern yet to be defined16:14
* jschlueter nods16:15
jruzickaso if something relies on that behavior, it's very likely a good idea to change it :)16:15
jschlueterbut in use in the wild and it behaves well enough for our specific use case16:15
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jschlueterI'd also be ok if we could make it an option for how to bump ...16:16
jruzickaright, it is at it is ;)16:16
jschlueterand a config file maybe to load default behavior?? is that crazy?16:16
jruzickajschlueter, it's not crazy, I just think it's better to minimize the overall amount of states and cases in a system16:16
jschluetersince I sense there are several modes of how to bump Revision in use out in the wild16:16
* jschlueter nods16:17
jruzickahaving and enforcing a single consistent behavior is prefered. I'd turn to special options and config files only when that proves impossible ;)16:17
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jschlueterso from my point of view if modifying a DLRN Revision I'd be happy to codify the current behavior of drop hash and bump date +Xs? for this model16:17
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jruzickajschlueter, would an option to emulate old behavior be sufficient?16:18
jschlueterwhen not DLRN based Revision or derivative of it ... pick a mode16:19
jschlueterjruzicka: maybe ...16:19
jruzickahmpf16:19
rdogerritMerged config master: Run graffiti command from rdoinfo directory  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993016:19
jschlueterjruzicka: what are you thinking of emulate old behavior flag?16:19
jschlueterand what are you thinking?16:19
jruzickajschlueter, I'd an automatic behavior that fits most cases without cmdline options. You would like to preserve the current scheme or just support it in places where it already is?16:22
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jruzickajschlueter, I mean, you think that rdopkg should continue to bump current DLRN releases as it did until now and only change for the new format?16:23
jruzickathat is a path of least work for me :)16:23
jschlueteryes16:25
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jschlueterunless someone has another better option and use cases behind it16:26
jruzickajschlueter, you already added feature test for that so ;)16:26
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jschlueterwhen you patch a dlrn build it should be > than what was there; and from my point next dlrn build should be greater than your patched one...16:26
jschlueterif you want to make sure it's stickier you manually bump the Revision in greater amounts16:27
jschlueterjruzicka: I should be able to add a few more test cases to cement the use cases we have without hampering other work16:28
jschlueterhttps://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9845/16:28
jschluetercan we get some more eyes on this? ^^16:28
jschlueterwould like to get this landed and backported for pike ... to cement a missing Requirement16:29
sfbenderHaïkel Guémar proposed graffiti master: Use rdoinfo database to detect CBS tags  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/980516:29
rdogerritOliver Walsh proposed openstack/tripleo-common-distgit rpm-master: Make the container-base dependency on hostname explicit  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/984516:30
jruzickajschlueter, affirmative!16:31
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jpenaso... jruzicka, jschlueter, does it make the DLRN patch innecessary?16:32
* jschlueter indifferent, if it helps other needs it doesn't bother me but don't see it as helping or hurting directly my use case16:33
jruzickajpena, it doesn't change motivation for the change in any way, only makes rdopkg support easier :)16:35
jruzickajpena, I for one find bumping date like that very shady and bumping 0.THIS.date.hash seems much more transparent and understandable16:37
jpenaok, I'll go ahead with the patch, then16:38
jschlueterack16:38
jschlueterjruzicka: understand making things easier and simpler to do16:38
amoralejjruzicka, iiuc, moving to 0.1.x.y and bumping 0.this.x.y will make things worst for jschlueter , am i wrong?16:39
amoralejand i think he's main user for this use case16:39
jruzickaamoralej, that will only happen with that specific format :)16:40
jschlueterI guess my workflow for this use case is patch is fixlevel (Z), new DRLN build is minor build (Y) type Revision bumping16:40
jruzickaas in current behavior will not change, only a speciall case for the new hash will be added16:40
jschlueterallowing for a user to bump X if they want it to be sticky16:40
jruzicka*current default behavior16:40
* jschlueter nods16:41
jruzickawhatever you need, jschlueter ;)16:41
jschlueterwe can figure out exact details as we go16:41
jruzickajschlueter, exactly16:41
amoralejsorry, i'm not sure if i'm understanding it right and i don't want to add noise16:41
amoralejbut16:41
amoralejif we move dlrn to 0.1.date.hash16:42
amoralejand rdopkg detects that format16:42
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amoralejwhat will it bump?16:42
jruzickaamoralej, 116:42
jschlueterI know how to submit patches to rdopkg to keep it doing enough of what we need it to do16:42
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amoralejbut, that will not meet jschlueter requirement16:42
jruzickajschlueter, yeah that's real cool, I'm not a SPOF anymore :)16:43
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amoralejof bump being < that new dlrn build16:43
* number80 suggest to write test cases of what we want to support16:43
jruzickathat's a one time breakage I thought we'd go through?16:43
jruzickanumber80++16:43
jruzickawe definitely need a list of scenarios of different upgrades and bumps16:44
jschlueterjruzicka: just need to figure out a set of cores for rdopkg16:44
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amoralejyes, writing requirements as tests seems the way to go16:44
jschlueternumber80: ack planning on doing that and add a specific feature and set of scenarios that I care about preserving behavior16:45
number80looks good to me16:45
jschlueternumber80: can you weigh in on https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9845 if you have a moment?16:47
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rdogerritGabriele Cerami proposed rdo-infra/ci-config master: Promoter: Add tasks to handle promoted images  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/971416:51
number80ack16:51
jruzickajschlueter, actually yes, it would be nice to have a proper bumping style support, like different types of bumps with --bump-style or something like that, maybe even a per-project config file. We'll see more as we progress.16:52
* jschlueter nods16:52
jruzickajschlueter, and yes, it was nice to be a benevolent dictator, but more cores will be required eventually :)16:52
* jschlueter still owes you list of NVR's I've seen in wild16:52
number80have requirements will help us focus on what we need, and we can do in every possible fashion16:53
* jruzicka still didn't survey NVRs in the wild so we're 0:0 here :)16:53
number80*not16:53
* jschlueter happy to have you as benevolent dictator of rdopkg16:53
jruzicka\o/16:54
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jschlueterlet me get a sample file of a whole bunch and we can weed through them16:55
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jruzickajschlueter, I also got this crazy idea yesterday about fuzzy testing16:55
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rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleo-common-distgit rpm-master: Make the container-base dependency on hostname explicit  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/984516:56
jschlueterjruzicka: that is a fun area to drop into ...16:56
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jschlueterjruzicka: there are several projects that use some form of fuzz testing in openstack already16:56
jruzickaIt wouldn't be very hard to write a script that would  `rdopkg patch` and `rdopkg new-version` and arbitrary distgit through its upstream versions found in upstream versions16:57
jschlueterjruzicka: ack16:57
jruzickajust a crazy idea to look into when I don't have million things in my queue :)16:57
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jruzickaescpecially, dedicated rdoinfo becomes ever more pressing16:58
jruzicka:-/16:58
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apevecI still have trouble with default "next dlrn build should be greater than your patched one"17:01
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apevecb/c again, next build might not have patch included in "patched one"17:02
apevecbut yes, let's move discussion to the review w/ test cases17:02
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jruzickaI have the problem with bumping an arbitrary timestamp and throwing away the hash - that's just smell bad from a distance :)17:05
jruzicka*that just smells bad17:05
sfbenderJakub Ružička proposed rdopkg master: normalize commit messages  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/978117:07
sfbenderJakub Ružička proposed rdopkg master: normalize commit messages  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/978117:09
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* number80 is close to have a working build of eventlet with newer ssl bindings17:16
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sfbenderJakub Ružička proposed rdopkg master: normalize commit messages  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/978117:23
jruzickanumber80, that sounds like a real fight :)17:23
number80jruzicka: well, the patch is ridiculously simple: just remove OpenSSL.rand stubs from eventlet ...17:24
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jruzickanumber80, oh wow I expected an epic crusade :)17:37
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aditya_rsnecklifter: \o17:40
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aditya_rWhy we need extra test global for https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9892/ even if the description is same?17:42
number80we don't17:42
number80subpackage may have different sub-text but it can be added manually or in a separate variable if it's repeated17:43
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sfbenderJakub Ružička proposed rdopkg master: normalize commit messages  https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/978117:47
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aditya_rnumber80: means need not to add extra variable for test description here https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9892/ as this is the common for all descriptions.17:52
number80Yeah17:55
number80One text, one variable17:56
number80and one ring to rule them all17:56
number80oops, sorry wrong chan ^^17:56
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ihrachysweshay, thanks for the node18:55
ihrachysweshay, I am in. now I try to tempest run --regex tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps.test_mtu_sized_frames18:55
ihrachysbut it doesn't seem to work18:55
ihrachysjust returns 218:55
ihrachysand if I tempest run -l, I see no tests either18:55
ihrachysI probably miss smth simple18:56
ihrachysor is it because tempest is not configured there yet?18:56
toskyyou need to configure tempest first18:57
tosky(or at least, I never executed ostestr -l or tempest run -l before configuring it)18:57
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ihrachystosky, ok, what's the right way to do that? is there a script that I could trigger to get it done for me? I don't think I should pull it off manually right?18:58
toskyihrachys: https://www.rdoproject.org/blog/2017/02/testing-rdo-with-tempest-new-features-in-ocata/18:59
ihrachysniiice18:59
ihrachysthanks a lot18:59
toskyihrachys: if it is a tripleo deployment you should also add another parameter to discover-tempest-config18:59
ihrachysit is, yes.18:59
toskyihrachys: namely --deployer-input <path/to/>tempest-deployer-input.conf19:00
toskytempest-deployer-input.conf should be in the home directory of the stack user on the undercloud19:01
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tosky(which is the place from where you are running tempest, I guess)19:01
ihrachysyeah, I see it19:01
ihrachyshm, IdentityError: Got identity error19:01
toskydid you source overcloudrc?19:02
ihrachysouch, did with stackrc instead. now it seems to work.19:03
ihrachysthanks19:03
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ihrachyshm, the test I want to check requires a external network. I could pass its uuid to discover tool, but it seems like net-list is empty there. does it mean we don't provision an external network by default? or is it some specific template that skips that?19:08
toskyiirc the external network is not created19:09
toskydoes the featureset that you used contain tempest_config: true?19:09
ihrachysI see. I believe the test will require an actual external network with FIPs to execute19:09
toskyin that case you should have a script that creates the external network with the right parameters and configure tempest19:10
ihrachystosky, not sure. I haven't deployed it, weshay did19:10
toskyihrachys: uhm, check if you have a script called tempest-setup.sh19:11
toskyon the undercloud19:11
ihrachysin homedir?19:12
toskyyes19:12
ihrachysif so, no19:12
ihrachysthough tempest-deployer-input.conf was there19:12
toskythat's handled differently19:13
ihrachyswell, if I would have the range to allocate, I could probably set the external network myself19:14
toskythis is the source template for the script that should have been created: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/tree/roles/validate-tempest/templates/configure-tempest.sh.j219:15
toskyunless overwritten, most values are in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/tree/roles/validate-tempest/defaults/main.yml19:16
toskythen it depends on the featureset used most likely19:16
toskyso wes should know :)19:16
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ihrachystosky, what's nthhost(100) ?19:17
ihrachysI think it describes the range to use19:18
ihrachysor undercloud_network_cidr19:18
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toskythat's probably a parameter of the deployment; I'm not sure where nthhost is defined, sorry19:22
ihrachysi presume it's cidr for one of interfaces on the undercloud19:22
ihrachyseth0? eth2?19:22
ihrachyseth0 10.0.1.12/24, eth1 10.0.0.1/2419:22
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rdogerritPradeep Kilambi created openstack/ceilometer-distgit pike-rdo: Move client dependencies to common sub package  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993819:23
ihrachysI may try to allocate e.g. 10.0.1.5-10 and see if it works19:23
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rdogerritChristopher Brown proposed openstack/saharaclient-distgit rpm-master: enable unit tests  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/945019:30
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created openstack/tripleo-common-distgit pike-rdo: Update to 7.6.1  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/993919:51
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rdogerritJon Schlueter created openstack/tripleo-common-distgit pike-rdo: Make the container-base dependency on hostname explicit  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/994620:11
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ihrachysrlandy, heya20:20
ihrachysrlandy, could you please explain https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/commit/0c40d0e3e82063f3f6dc8f2cea9fc79a5daa5ed8 ?20:20
ihrachysI think it breaks test_mtu_sized_frames20:20
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ihrachystosky, I am wondering, is enabling tempest scenarios in rdo pipeline some new thing?20:22
ihrachysor maybe we executed less tests before and lately enabled those marked as 'slow'?20:22
ihrachysbecause I struggle to understand why it hit RDO now only20:22
rlandyihrachys: hello20:23
rlandysorry was in meeting20:23
rlandyihrachys: that code has been there for a while and it is required for ovb and some hardware platforms20:24
rlandyif you were running virt before, you would not have encountered it20:24
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ihrachysrlandy, it hit rdo pipeline; I assume it was running ovb before20:24
ihrachysbut maybe not this test, that I don't know20:25
ihrachysrlandy, do you have a link to a bug or smth where the rationale behind the patch is explained?20:25
toskyihrachys: it was discussed for a while, basically some featureset now enable tempest instead of the pingtest20:25
ihrachysI don't think it's correct to always set it to 135020:25
toskythe idea of the tripleo team is to add just a minimal set of tests to start with20:25
rlandyihrachys: no really - it's from working on qeos7 and rdocloud20:26
ihrachysrlandy, but if infra is not capable to pass anything beyond 1350 then we need to adjust neutron configuration to use the 1350 value as baseline for mtu calculations for tenant networks. which would mean 1300 mtu for vxlan.20:26
weshayihrachys, what's up?20:26
ihrachysweshay, heya. I think I made some progress on the mtu failure20:27
rlandyihrachys: we could probably drop that work for rdocloud since I think the admins raised the mtus there20:27
ihrachysthe current suspect is https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/commit/0c40d0e3e82063f3f6dc8f2cea9fc79a5daa5ed820:27
rlandyI am surprised that this hit now20:27
ihrachysweshay, which basically reduces effective mtu by 15020:27
rlandyI am just not sure why there is a problem now20:28
rlandywe have been running tempest on ovb for some time20:28
ihrachysweshay, without telling neutron about, so neutron happily allocates networks of 1450 for vxlan20:28
weshayand that is causing tempest to fail?20:28
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ihrachysweshay, I think so. let me reset those values on nodes and repeat the test20:28
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rlandyihrachys: we can adjust the value20:29
rlandywould 1450 be suitable?20:29
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ihrachysrlandy, I think we need 150020:29
ihrachyswhich is what neutron assumes20:30
weshayso does tempest try to set a packet to > 1500 or something like that?20:30
ihrachysweshay, the tempest test explicitly sends a packet of size that == network mtu20:30
ihrachyswhich is 1450 for vxlan tenant network20:30
weshayI see..20:30
ihrachysand it also enforces no fragmentation20:30
weshayright20:30
ihrachysto make sure router doesn't split20:30
ihrachysand we validate data path is full sized20:30
weshaywe're not the first openstack shop to have to adjust the mtu lower20:31
weshayseems like the test could also be improved so that could be adjusted by the user of the test20:31
rlandythis adjustment has been on RH1 for a long time as well20:31
rlandyupstream ovb tests20:31
weshayright20:31
ihrachysI don't think those adjustments are correct. and/or if your infra is incapable, neutron should be told about it. (and there are tripleo knobs to do that)20:32
weshayif you need a certain mtu size to get the networks to work properly.. the test itself seems suspect20:32
rlandyweshay: we can probably drop the mtu adjustment for rdocloud20:32
ihrachyswell, neutron doesn't care about infra, as long as you tell neutron about the custom mtu that you have20:32
ihrachysotherwise it assumes 150020:32
weshayrlandy, we'd have to test that a bit20:32
rlandybut not for ci-rhos20:32
weshayihrachys, ya.. so setting neutron is the best bet afaict20:33
ihrachysadjusting it in one place but not the other is a path to disaster20:33
weshayright20:33
weshayI see20:33
weshayso we're adjusting rhel/centos w/o informing neutron20:33
ihrachysright20:33
ihrachyslemme play with it locally and see if that knob that I have in mind will rectify20:33
weshayok.. so while we have an expert on board.. can you verify that command for us?20:34
weshaythanks ihrachys20:34
ihrachysbecause for what I see, the test is still not doing great (hanging there for a while, will probably fail with timeout in a sec)20:34
ihrachysoh wait, we have 1350 on undercloud too20:34
weshayneutron.conf: [DEFAULT] - global_physnet_mtu = 155020:35
weshayml2_conf.ini: [DEFAULT] - path_mtu = 155020:35
weshayml2_conf.ini: [DEFAULT] - physical_network_mtus = provider:150020:35
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ihrachys1550? wtf20:35
weshaythat's just an example20:35
ihrachysok :)20:35
weshaysry20:35
ihrachysbut yeah, global_physnet_mtu is the knob20:35
weshaythe change we need to make is to the neutron config20:35
* weshay reading through http://serverascode.com/2017/06/06/neutron-vxlan-tenant-mtu-1500.html20:36
rlandywe explicitly adjust mtus on the undercloud and use echo -e "\ndhcp-option-force=26,{{ mtu }}" >> /etc/dnsmasq-ironic.conf; for the overcloud20:36
ihrachysoh yeah, that's a hack to get same mtu for vxlan as for vlan20:36
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weshayrlandy, ihrachys is saying if we adjust the mtu via linux we also need to set it in neutron config20:36
weshayso..20:37
weshay1. neutron.conf: [DEFAULT] - global_physnet_mtu = 135020:37
weshayis one for sue20:37
weshaysure20:37
ihrachysyeah20:37
weshayanything else?20:38
ihrachysif I apply that in the setup, will puppet or something else revert it?20:38
weshayihrachys, no20:38
ihrachysI want to make sure it works20:38
ihrachysok I will also need to restart neutron-server20:38
weshaynp20:38
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weshayrlandy, I'd rather not change the mtu if that has proven to be stable for us20:39
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weshayrlandy, sounds like once ihrachys confirms the right settings change we will update the bug to be a ci bug and update our ci to also update neutron config and restart neutron20:40
ihrachysweshay, if properly configured in triple templates, no need to restart20:40
weshayoh true20:40
weshayso we'll need an additional params file for the deployment that specificies the neutron mtu w/ ovb deployments20:41
weshayrlandy, in --extra-args20:41
rlandyweshay: can we clarify what needs to be done on the undercloud vs. the overcloud20:43
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rlandyiiuc, the neutron.conf adjustment must happen on the undercloud - before our 'systemctl restart 'neutron-*' line20:46
weshayrlandy, we can probably set it in heiradata for the undercloud before it's ever installed20:46
weshaybut would have to look20:46
weshayfor the undercloud20:47
weshayand the overcloud should probably deployed with a param for neutron mtu20:47
ihrachysundercloud doesn't matter no? it's host networking.20:47
weshayihrachys, the change you pointed to is only changing the mtu on the undercloud to make sure introspection works iirc20:48
weshayrlandy, right?20:48
rlandyweshay: both undercloud and overcloud20:49
rlandy echo -e "\ndhcp-option-force=26,{{ mtu }}" >> /etc/dnsmasq-ironic.conf; impacts the overcloud20:49
rlandythe explicit mtus changes are on the undercloud20:49
weshayrlandy, the overcloud nodes in ovb are also set to 135020:50
ihrachysweshay, eh, no not really20:50
ihrachysI was debugging the mtu failure on your node20:50
ihrachysmy introspection failures are probably of no relevance20:50
weshayihrachys, ya.. not yours.. when we were developing this20:50
weshayrlandy, right? the mtu change was related to introspection?20:50
ihrachysrlandy, right. but that's all host networking, no neutron networks involved to set ports up.20:51
rlandyweshay: yes, I think that introspection  is where we picked up the mtu problem on rdocloud20:52
weshayya20:52
weshayso it probably won't hurt to get neutron set to 1350 on both the undercloud and overcloud in ovb20:53
weshayrlandy, ^20:53
weshayya.. it's set to 1500 in neutron in both20:54
rlandyit won't hurt introspection - other stuff idk - but if ihrachys says it's ok, fine by me20:54
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ihrachysstill testing it20:55
weshayrlandy, https://github.com/openstack/instack-undercloud/blob/master/instack_undercloud/undercloud.py#L208-L21020:55
weshayrlandy, would just need to pass a variable to define that for ovb20:56
weshayand for the overcloud20:56
* weshay looks20:56
weshayparam: NeutronGlobalPhysnetMtu ?20:57
ihrachysweshay, yes20:58
ihrachys{0} tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps.test_mtu_sized_frames [51.636186s] ... ok20:58
ihrachysyay20:58
ihrachysthat's with global_physnet_mtu = 135020:58
weshayihrachys++20:59
weshaycool20:59
ihrachysupdated the card21:00
ihrachysare you going to send the patch for infra?21:00
weshayihrachys, ok.. feel free to update the bug/card I'm going to assign the bug to my team now :)21:00
weshayfor infra?21:00
ihrachyswell, I dunno, whatever sets the setup in gate21:01
ihrachysin the cloud21:01
ihrachysI am illiterate :)21:01
ihrachyscopy-pasted the explanation in the bug21:01
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ihrachysI guess I am done with the card now?21:01
weshayihrachys, yes.. I may add you to a review or two if that's ok21:02
ihrachys++21:02
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weshayrlandy, any questions21:02
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rlandyweshay: no - just looking at where we would set that on the undercloud21:03
weshayrlandy, https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/blob/master/roles/undercloud-deploy/templates/undercloud.conf.j221:04
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rlandycorrect - a lot  are set in undercloud.conf21:04
weshayrlandy, we need to add an option for https://github.com/openstack/instack-undercloud/blob/master/instack_undercloud/undercloud.py#L208-L21021:04
weshayrlandy, mtu is not in there atm21:05
rlandyweshay: yes - was just checking if that option was there already and we just never set it21:05
rlandybut it's not there - ack21:05
weshayrlandy, so two changes one for the undercloud, and we need a new template w/ params for the overcloud as well21:06
rlandywe are overriding those settings for ovb here: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/blob/master/config/general_config/ovb-minimal-pacemaker-public-bond.yml21:06
rlandyweshay: ack21:06
weshayrlandy, what line?21:06
weshay5921:06
weshayrlandy, I think you can keep what you have there21:06
rlandyweshay: lines 3 -14 are where we keep the undercloud.conf overrides21:06
rlandyjust need to add the line there21:07
weshayya21:07
rlandyneed to check where the upstream playbooks start21:08
rlandyand what they pick up21:08
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rdogerritMerged openstack/keystonemiddleware-distgit rpm-master: Disable warning-is-error  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/871422:06
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rdogerritAlan Pevec created rdoinfo master: OVS 2.8.1 for Queens  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/994723:29
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