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| oanson | mrunge, touching ground to say I've updated bug 1494979 (in redhat bugzilla) as per your review comments from last week. | 04:15 |
| openstack | bug 1494979 in Terminator "(gtk3-only) Temporary distorted layout when editing label in titlebar" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1494979 - Assigned to Stephen Boddy (stephen-j-boddy) | 04:15 |
| mrunge | thanks oanson , will have a look | 04:16 |
| oanson | Thanks! | 04:16 |
| mrunge | oanson, did you ran fedora-review -b 1494979 on your package? Or even rpmlint? | 04:21 |
| oanson | Yes | 04:21 |
| oanson | Both the spec and src rpm | 04:21 |
| oanson | (rpmlint) | 04:22 |
| mrunge | there are some errors and warnings | 04:22 |
| oanson | I'll look again | 04:22 |
| mrunge | python2-python-jsonmodels.noarch: E: description-line-too-long C Models to make easier to deal with structures that are converted to, or read from JSON. | 04:22 |
| mrunge | python3-python-jsonmodels.noarch: E: summary-too-long C Models to make easier to deal with structures that are converted to, or read from JSON. | 04:22 |
| mrunge | that's easy to fix, but errors are blocker | 04:23 |
| oanson | We changed the names of the spec, so I posted new links on one of the comments (one sec, I'll find the number) | 04:23 |
| oanson | On comment 2 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1494979#c2 | 04:24 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1494979 in Package Review "Review Request: python-jsonmodels - Models to make easier to deal with structures that are converted to, or read from JSON in python" [Medium,Assigned] - Assigned to mrunge | 04:24 |
| mrunge | right | 04:24 |
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| oanson | Sorry, updated again in comment 3 :) | 04:24 |
| oanson | rpmlint wouldn't let me change the src rpm name | 04:24 |
| mrunge | oh, and btw. the changelog is the changelog of the spec file, not of the upstream source | 04:25 |
| oanson | Oh. All right. I'll fix that. Then is it relevant for a first release? | 04:26 |
| mrunge | you should make it read like * Wed Nov 15 Omer Anson <your@email> - 2.2-1 | 04:26 |
| mrunge | yes it is | 04:26 |
| mrunge | and then second line | 04:26 |
| mrunge | - initial release | 04:26 |
| mrunge | something like that | 04:26 |
| oanson | Sure. Will fix. | 04:26 |
| mrunge | and finally, it looks like you can remove %{dist} from release | 04:27 |
| mrunge | oanson, ^^ | 04:27 |
| oanson | Sure. Will do. | 04:27 |
| mrunge | it should be something like %{?dist} ^^ oanson | 04:28 |
| mrunge | when adding dist, I forgot the '?' | 04:28 |
| oanson | It should now be: Release: %{?dist} . Right? | 04:29 |
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| oanson | Or 1%{?dist} ? | 04:29 |
| mrunge | yes | 04:29 |
| mrunge | 1% | 04:29 |
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| mrunge | 1%{?dist} | 04:30 |
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| oanson | Updated and pushed | 04:31 |
| mrunge | awesome | 04:31 |
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| rdogerrit | Aditya Ramteke proposed openstack/mistral-distgit rpm-master: Moved package description to global variable. https://review.rdoproject.org/r/9865 | 06:07 |
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| amoralej | good morning | 08:40 |
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| rdogerrit | Daniel Alvarez proposed openstack/networking-ovn-distgit rpm-master: Spec file for networking-ovn-metadata-agent https://review.rdoproject.org/r/7739 | 08:46 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/designate-tempest-plugin-distgit pike-rdo: Bumped to 0.3.0 for Pike https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10479 | 08:52 |
| jpena | good morning | 08:52 |
| aditya_r | jpena: good morning | 08:55 |
| aditya_r | jpena: Should I close it https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9400/ ? | 08:56 |
| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/nova-distgit pike-rdo: Update to 16.0.3 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10517 | 08:57 |
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| jpena | aditya_r: I would do it yes, unless someone else prefers to remove the hacking test. amoralej, apevec? ^^ | 08:59 |
| chandankumar | jpena: amoralej aditya_r ykarel \o/ | 08:59 |
| amoralej | aditya_r, yes, i think it can be abandoned | 09:01 |
| aditya_r | chandankumar: \o/ | 09:01 |
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| aditya_r | amoralej: okay | 09:02 |
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| chandankumar | jpena: amoralej https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10475/ | 09:04 |
| rdogerrit | Martin Kopec proposed openstack/oswin-tempest-plugin-distgit rpm-master: Initial import of spec file https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10106 | 09:04 |
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| jpena | chandankumar: those generic testing jobs use RDO Trunk repos, right? Just to be sure | 09:05 |
| chandankumar | jpena: yup | 09:05 |
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| rdogerrit | Alfredo Moralejo created openstack/instack-undercloud-distgit newton-rdo: Update to 5.3.4 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10518 | 09:20 |
| rdogerrit | Alfredo Moralejo created openstack/tripleo-common-distgit newton-rdo: Update to 5.4.6 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10519 | 09:21 |
| rdogerrit | Alfredo Moralejo created openstack/tripleo-heat-templates-distgit newton-rdo: Update to 5.3.5 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10520 | 09:21 |
| chandankumar | jpena: amoralej please have a look at this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512534/ | 09:27 |
| aditya_r | chandankumar jpena : Is it fine to use comman_desc_docs for common package description https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9820/3/openstack-panko.spec or should I use something else? | 09:29 |
| chandankumar | aditya_r: we donot need common_desc_docs | 09:31 |
| chandankumar | just use common_docs | 09:31 |
| chandankumar | *common_decs | 09:31 |
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| aditya_r | chandankumar: I have already used common_desc for "OpenStack Panko provides API to store events from OpenStack components." | 09:35 |
| aditya_r | and common_desc_doc for another description | 09:35 |
| rdogerrit | Merged rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo queens-uc tags to latest upper-constraints https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10515 | 09:38 |
| chandankumar | aditya_r: commented | 09:41 |
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| rdogerrit | Alfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo pike tags to latest upper-constraints https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10514 | 09:43 |
| aditya_r | chandankumar: got that | 09:44 |
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| aditya_r | chandankumar: What about this https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/9899/2/python-ovsdbapp.spec ? | 09:50 |
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| chandankumar | aditya_r: done | 09:54 |
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| aditya_r | chandankumar: understood. Thank you :) | 09:57 |
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| chandankumar | martinkopec: Error: No Package found for python2-oslo-sphinx | 10:08 |
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| chandankumar | martinkopec: change it to python-oslo-sphinx in oswin tempest plugin | 10:09 |
| rdogerrit | Aditya Ramteke proposed openstack/ovsdbapp-distgit rpm-master: Moved package description to global variable. https://review.rdoproject.org/r/9899 | 10:09 |
| martinkopec | chandankumar, which review? | 10:10 |
| chandankumar | martinkopec: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10106/13/python-oswin-tests-tempest.spec | 10:11 |
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| martinkopec | chandankumar, I don't see gates complaining .. python2-oslo-sphinx was installed | 10:14 |
| martinkopec | chandankumar, https://review.rdoproject.org/jenkins/job/DLRN-rpmbuild/19749/consoleFull | 10:14 |
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| martinkopec | chandankumar, but python3-pbr is not available :/ | 10:14 |
| rdogerrit | Merged rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo pike tags to latest upper-constraints https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10514 | 10:15 |
| chandankumar | martinkopec: commented | 10:15 |
| rdogerrit | rdo-trunk created openstack/os-brick-distgit pike-rdo: Update to 1.15.4 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10521 | 10:16 |
| rdogerrit | Martin Kopec proposed openstack/oswin-tempest-plugin-distgit rpm-master: Initial import of spec file https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10106 | 10:18 |
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| rdogerrit | Jakub Libosvar created rdoinfo master: Add Neutron tempest plugin project https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10522 | 10:27 |
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| rdogerrit | Alan Pevec proposed rdoinfo master: Expel githubs from rdoinfo https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10513 | 10:34 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/os-brick-distgit pike-rdo: Update to 1.15.4 https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10521 | 10:45 |
| amoralej | apevec, wrt https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10513/ with that we are not removing any external dependency but moving from github to review.r.o | 10:46 |
| amoralej | is review.r.o mirrored in openstack-infra? | 10:46 |
| amoralej | is that the idea behind? | 10:47 |
| apevec | that's final piece, check my comment in oooq review I linked | 10:47 |
| apevec | but yes, that's the idea behind this | 10:47 |
| amoralej | because, IMHO if we have to depend on something i'd prefer to depend on github | 10:47 |
| apevec | well, I disagree :) | 10:47 |
| apevec | we don't control that | 10:47 |
| amoralej | why? | 10:47 |
| apevec | also not really politically correct | 10:47 |
| amoralej | why? | 10:48 |
| amoralej | that's what i'm missing | 10:48 |
| apevec | github is OSS SPOF | 10:49 |
| apevec | and not really open | 10:49 |
| * tosky agrees with apevec | 10:50 | |
| * misc agree with tosky | 10:51 | |
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| rdogerrit | nmagnezi created rdoinfo master: Add python-octavia-tempest-plugin https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10523 | 10:58 |
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| rdogerrit | nmagnezi created rdoinfo master: Add openstack-octavia-ui https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10524 | 11:02 |
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| amoralej | jobs keep failing because of perf issues in ci.centos dmsimard apevec wdyt https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10497/ | 11:38 |
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| chandankumar | amoralej: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10106/ time to merge it, fedora-review done | 11:48 |
| rdogerrit | Merged rdo-infra/ci-config master: Revert "Revert "Move weirdo jobs in ci.centos to ci aggregate"" https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10497 | 11:49 |
| apevec | adarazs|ruck, weshay ^ fyi merged https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10497 to temp. move weuirdo jobs on SSDs and get some stats | 11:49 |
| apevec | looks like Ceph perf went down a lot | 11:49 |
| chandankumar | martinkopec: please send rdoinfo review to remove under-review tag and open queens, queens uc tag for the same for oswin tempest plugin | 11:50 |
| chandankumar | martinkopec: thanks for working on that, really appreciated :-) | 11:51 |
| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/oswin-tempest-plugin-distgit rpm-master: Initial import of spec file https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10106 | 11:53 |
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| martinkopec | chandankumar, on it | 11:54 |
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| rdogerrit | nmagnezi proposed rdoinfo master: Add python-octavia-tests-tempest https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10523 | 11:59 |
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| adarazs|ruck | apevec: ack. | 12:01 |
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| rdogerrit | Martin Kopec created rdoinfo master: Open the gates for queens and queens-uc https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10525 | 12:03 |
| rdogerrit | Yatin Karel created rdo-infra/releng master: Add some usage examples for rdo_release_review https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10526 | 12:04 |
| rdogerrit | Yatin Karel created config master: Use commit:$REAL_COMMIT while creating reviews https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10527 | 12:04 |
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| rdogerrit | Alfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for pike-testing https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10473 | 12:10 |
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| chandankumar | amoralej: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10523/2/rdo.yml@1934 it should be python-octavia-tests-tempest | 12:20 |
| amoralej | chandankumar, oops, i just read the comment | 12:20 |
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| chandankumar | amoralej: given -1 no problem | 12:20 |
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| rdogerrit | nmagnezi proposed rdoinfo master: Add python-octavia-tests-tempest https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10523 | 12:35 |
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| rdogerrit | Yatin Karel proposed rdo-infra/releng master: Add some usage examples for rdo_release_review https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10526 | 12:54 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged rdoinfo master: Add openstack-octavia-ui https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10524 | 13:10 |
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| rdogerrit | rdo-trunk created config master: Create project for octavia-dashboard https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10528 | 13:11 |
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| rdogerrit | Alfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Open the gates for queens and queens-uc https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10525 | 13:13 |
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| hguemar | o/ | 13:16 |
| hguemar | since it seems that network won't be fixed any sooner ... | 13:16 |
| hguemar | jschlueter, jjoyce: as you noticed, I'm still responsive over mails/notifications, but internal irc would be too painful (too much VPN disconnect) | 13:17 |
| jschlueter | hguemar: ack | 13:18 |
| jjoyce | hguemar: Thanks for the heads up. | 13:18 |
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| hguemar | flepied: btw => https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/10212/ (trivial change) | 13:22 |
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| rdogerrit | nmagnezi created rdoinfo master: Add octaviaclient https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10529 | 13:24 |
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| chandankumar | nmagnezi: hello | 13:25 |
| nmagnezi | chandankumar, hi | 13:25 |
| chandankumar | nmagnezi: for https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10529/ you need to first submit a package review in fedora | 13:25 |
| chandankumar | nmagnezi: once it is available there, we can import it in RDO | 13:25 |
| nmagnezi | chandankumar, ack. was just about to link the fedora rhbz | 13:25 |
| chandankumar | nmagnezi: thanks :-) | 13:26 |
| nmagnezi | :-) | 13:26 |
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| nmagnezi | actually, cant find it. cgoncalves can you share the fedora rhbz for python-octaviaclient ? | 13:28 |
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| rdogerrit | Yatin Karel proposed rdo-infra/releng master: Add some usage examples for rdo_release_review https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10526 | 13:44 |
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| rdogerrit | Thiago da Silva created openstack/swift-distgit rpm-master: Adding castellan and oslo-config requirements https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10530 | 13:56 |
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| sshnaidm | dmsimard, ping me please when you are available, re: using snapshot as image in CI | 14:12 |
| dmsimard | sshnaidm: hai | 14:12 |
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| sshnaidm | dmsimard, I thought to start from undercloud prepared image (before upgrades, etc). So mostly I need a job that tracks delorean and delorean-current repo and is triggered when one of them changes. I know there is such trigger in jenkins, not sure about zuul though | 14:14 |
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| hguemar | We have RDO meeting in 45 minutes | 14:15 |
| hguemar | agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 14:16 |
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| dmsimard | sshnaidm: I have to drop my kid at school, let's follow up after | 14:16 |
| hguemar | EmilienM, mburned, if one of you can join us the irc meeting to give us feedback about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-forum-upstream-lts-releases | 14:17 |
| sshnaidm | dmsimard, sure, not urgent | 14:17 |
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| hguemar | Not mandatory but that topic interests us a lot | 14:17 |
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| EmilienM | hguemar: I'm always here. I was in the room as well. | 14:18 |
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| hguemar | EmilienM: awesome, it sparkled a long discussion during last week so we appreciate it :) | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | cool | 14:20 |
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| hguemar | agenda is a bit empty this week => https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting | 14:27 |
| * jruzicka just adding | 14:28 | |
| hguemar | amoralej, ykarel, jpena, chandankumar you probably have stuff to say ^ | 14:28 |
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| chandankumar | hguemar: got filled | 14:30 |
| hguemar | :) | 14:31 |
| * hguemar thinks that we have someone helping rbowen and rleander around but do not know her irc nick | 14:31 | |
| hguemar | ^ if you want to fill in rbowen from community side, you're welcome :) | 14:31 |
| hguemar | *instead of | 14:32 |
| hguemar | :) | 14:32 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged config master: Create project for octavia-dashboard https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10528 | 14:35 |
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| nmagnezi | chandankumar, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1513469#c1 | 14:36 |
| nmagnezi | :) | 14:36 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1513469 in Package Review "Package python-octaviaclient" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to hguemar | 14:36 |
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| rdogerrit | nmagnezi proposed rdoinfo master: Add octaviaclient https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10529 | 14:44 |
| nmagnezi | oh.. used the wrong change id.... | 14:45 |
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| * nmagnezi fixing | 14:45 | |
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| rdogerrit | nmagnezi proposed rdoinfo master: Add python-octavia-tests-tempest https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10523 | 14:46 |
| rdogerrit | nmagnezi proposed rdoinfo master: Add octaviaclient https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10529 | 14:51 |
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| hguemar | Meeting in 8 min :) | 14:52 |
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| * chandankumar is making rm -rf <intree neutron tempest plugin code> | 14:53 | |
| dmsimard | sshnaidm: hey I'm here | 14:53 |
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| dmsimard | sshnaidm: we can't really use this kind of image yet until nodepool v3 | 14:54 |
| dmsimard | sshnaidm: it's okay if you want to get started with the build process but we're still a few weeks away from being able to use them | 14:54 |
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| sshnaidm | dmsimard, as I see the workflow right now is: detect change in delorean or delorean-current, run specific job, create snapshot, name it. Then configure other job to use this image as template image instead of nodepools one. | 14:58 |
| sshnaidm | dmsimard, but it's really worth to wait for zuulv3, because we'll have there completely different environment.. | 14:58 |
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| dmsimard | hguemar: meeting | 15:01 |
| myoung | o/ | 15:01 |
| jruzicka | o/ | 15:02 |
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| dmsimard | #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2017-11-15 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 15:02:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dmsimard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2017-11-15)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2017_11_15' | 15:02 |
| jpena | o/ | 15:03 |
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| dmsimard | #chair hguemar myoung jpena jruzicka | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dmsimard hguemar jpena jruzicka myoung | 15:03 |
| * Duck o/ | 15:03 | |
| amoralej | o/ | 15:03 |
| dmsimard | #chair Duck amoralej | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck amoralej dmsimard hguemar jpena jruzicka myoung | 15:03 |
| dmsimard | #topic rollcall | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2017-11-15)" | 15:03 | |
| hguemar | Yep | 15:03 |
| hguemar | o/ | 15:03 |
| chandankumar | \o/ | 15:03 |
| dmsimard | hguemar: feel free to take over :D | 15:03 |
| adarazs|ruck | o/ | 15:04 |
| hguemar | #nick adarazs|ruck | 15:04 |
| hguemar | I guess we have quorum now | 15:04 |
| hguemar | #topic Queens Test day | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens Test day (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2017-11-15)" | 15:04 | |
| hguemar | Anyone who has info about it? | 15:05 |
| hguemar | I'm not sure that I could help since I have no network at home tomorrow | 15:05 |
| adarazs|ruck | #chair adarazs|ruck | 15:05 |
| dmsimard | When is it ? | 15:05 |
| adarazs|ruck | hmm, I guess I can't add myself :) | 15:05 |
| dmsimard | I guess tomorrow ? | 15:05 |
| hguemar | #chair adarazs|ruck | 15:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck adarazs|ruck amoralej dmsimard hguemar jpena jruzicka myoung | 15:05 |
| hguemar | sorry, I used wrong command | 15:05 |
| adarazs|ruck | np :) | 15:06 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: yes, tomorrow and friday but is anyone leading that? | 15:06 |
| hguemar | https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/queens/milestone1/ | 15:06 |
| amoralej | i'll check #rdo if someone asks for help | 15:07 |
| dmsimard | wow we need to update that | 15:07 |
| dmsimard | there's a bunch of mistakes | 15:07 |
| hguemar | Well, since I don't know when rbowen will be back, would someone step up to lead that | 15:07 |
| dmsimard | stuff around 7.3 upgrading to 7.4 | 15:07 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: please fix it then! | 15:07 |
| ykarel | o/ | 15:07 |
| amoralej | we still have the 7.3 | 15:07 |
| amoralej | yeahh | 15:07 |
| dmsimard | yeah I can send a patch | 15:07 |
| hguemar | volunteer to lead test day? | 15:07 |
| weshay | o/ | 15:07 |
| hguemar | #chair ykarel amoralej weshay | 15:07 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck adarazs|ruck amoralej dmsimard hguemar jpena jruzicka myoung weshay ykarel | 15:07 |
| dmsimard | I can't quite lead but I'll be there to help with questions and general help | 15:08 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: well, if rbowen is back tomorrow, it'll be good enough, I just want to avoid that it fails because nobody is testing or reporting issues | 15:08 |
| hguemar | Well | 15:09 |
| chandankumar | \o | 15:09 |
| hguemar | #action hguemar sends reminder about test day on user/devel lists | 15:09 |
| hguemar | #chair chandankumar | 15:09 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck adarazs|ruck amoralej chandankumar dmsimard hguemar jpena jruzicka myoung weshay ykarel | 15:09 |
| hguemar | Let's move to the next topic | 15:09 |
| hguemar | #topic rdopkg: what to do with `rdopkg update-patches`? | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rdopkg: what to do with `rdopkg update-patches`? (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2017-11-15)" | 15:09 | |
| hguemar | jruzicka: ^ | 15:09 |
| jruzicka | hai | 15:09 |
| jruzicka | #info `rdopkg patch -l --bump-only` is smarter and more robust alternative to old `rdopkg update-patches` (which is in turn a rewrite on ancient `update-patches.sh` script that started this whole patches branch thing) | 15:10 |
| jruzicka | #info users tell me it's convenient to have a `rdopkg patch`-like action that is guaranteed to work on local patches branch and not overwrite it (implicit -l/--local-patches) | 15:10 |
| hguemar | b is fine with me, but I'd add a big deprecation warning | 15:11 |
| jruzicka | this is basically about two actions doing similar thing so it would make sense to unify them as much as possible but we have a legacy usage to consider as well | 15:11 |
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| jruzicka | jschlueter, jjoyce ^ | 15:11 |
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| hguemar | jruzicka: IMHO, it has to be removed but we have to give time for people to fix their tooling | 15:11 |
| jruzicka | options: | 15:11 |
| jruzicka | a) leave it as is - a legacy (replace obsolete warning with info about `rdopkg patch -l` alternative) | 15:11 |
| jruzicka | b) make it `rdopkg patch --local-patches [--no-bump]` alias which might lead to slight change of behavior but same code path for both actions. | 15:12 |
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| jruzicka | hguemar, I'm fine with either way, I'd hope some users would help me decide :) | 15:12 |
| jruzicka | given b), should we preserve the --no-bump behavior as well? (.spec Release isn't bumped by default) | 15:13 |
| hguemar | b is better as it allows removing dead code, but yeah up to users to decide | 15:13 |
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| jruzicka | hguemar, correct, I'd slightly prefer b) although much of the code is still reused, it's just different code path throught it with different perks :) | 15:13 |
| jjoyce | jruzicka: I don't use update-patches any longer so my workflow is to always use patch -l | 15:14 |
| jruzicka | jjoyce, cool. | 15:14 |
| jruzicka | allright, that's something. Let's move on. | 15:15 |
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| jruzicka | jjoyce, hguemar btw do you ever use `rdopkg patch --no-bump/-B`? | 15:15 |
| hguemar | jruzicka: I only use automatic bumps with new-version | 15:16 |
| hguemar | nice to have as a feature but I like having separate commits for bumps (easier cherry-picks) | 15:16 |
| jruzicka | also, there already is obsolete removal warning in update-patches, so it can be even removed | 15:16 |
| hguemar | Then I think we have consensus on option b) (at least a soft one) | 15:17 |
| jruzicka | hguemar, yeah, I'll discuss with jschlueter who wanted to preserve update-patches. | 15:17 |
| hguemar | soft consensus == nobody disagree, hard consensus == everyone agree | 15:17 |
| jruzicka | hguemar, let's move on | 15:17 |
| hguemar | #action jruzicka discuss rdopkg update-patches with jschlueter | 15:17 |
| hguemar | #topic rdopkg .spec Release bumping | 15:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rdopkg .spec Release bumping (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2017-11-15)" | 15:18 | |
| hguemar | jruzicka: again ^ | 15:18 |
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| jruzicka | As part of automatic DLRN Release bumping support, I'd like to give rdopkg users a way to specify howto bump release | 15:18 |
| jruzicka | #info under review with some relevant comments: https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/10200/ | 15:19 |
| amoralej | jruzicka, will default keep as-is? | 15:19 |
| jjoyce | jruzicka: From time to time I use it, but not too often. | 15:19 |
| jjoyce | jruzicka: Rebase to a tag with extra patches, is when I use it. | 15:19 |
| hguemar | I have yet to chime in, so no opinion for now | 15:20 |
| jruzicka | amoralej, default stays the same, it only changes for DLRN Releases and as there is automagic involved, I added manual control. | 15:20 |
| amoralej | jruzicka, ok | 15:20 |
| jruzicka | The main question is when you specify you want to bump 2nd release part of a release like 1.2.3 (`-R 2`), what should happen? | 15:20 |
| * hguemar wants to see how we handle pre/post-releases which is tricky | 15:20 | |
| jruzicka | Given Release: 1.2.3 | 15:20 |
| jruzicka | When bumping 2nd Release part (Y of X.Y.Z, minor version) using `-R 2`/`-R Y`/`-R minor` | 15:20 |
| jruzicka | Then Release is | 15:20 |
| jruzicka | a) 1.3.3 (bump selected part only) | 15:20 |
| jruzicka | b) 1.3.0 (bump semver, keep all parts like pbr does) | 15:20 |
| jruzicka | c) 1.3 (bump semver, drop unneeded zeros) | 15:20 |
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| hguemar | #chair rbowen | 15:22 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck adarazs|ruck amoralej chandankumar dmsimard hguemar jpena jruzicka myoung rbowen weshay ykarel | 15:22 |
| jruzicka | This gets further complicated with hashes and other non-numbers in Release like 1.2.foo.1 etc. | 15:22 |
| PagliaccisCloud | i'm late but here! o/ | 15:22 |
| rbowen | Hi, folks. Sorry I'm late. | 15:22 |
| hguemar | #chair PagliaccisCloud | 15:22 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Duck PagliaccisCloud adarazs|ruck amoralej chandankumar dmsimard hguemar jpena jruzicka myoung rbowen weshay ykarel | 15:22 |
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| hguemar | Has anyone something to add? | 15:23 |
| hguemar | I haven't done my homework on that topic so I need more time | 15:24 |
| jruzicka | #action everyone with mad .spec Release bumping skillz please review this patch: https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/#/c/10200/ | 15:24 |
| jruzicka | hguemar, done here | 15:24 |
| hguemar | #topic Looking for new project ideas which can done as a part of easyfix in order to foster new contributors | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Looking for new project ideas which can done as a part of easyfix in order to foster new contributors (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2017-11-15)" | 15:25 | |
| hguemar | chandankumar: ^ | 15:25 |
| chandankumar | So here is the things, we started easyfix to get more contributors, packaging issues are almost done | 15:26 |
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| chandankumar | I am looking for new project ideas which will be useful for RDO /openstack community so that new contributors can start working on | 15:26 |
| chandankumar | If you have anything in mind feel free to create an issue here https://github.com/redhat-openstack/easyfix/issues | 15:27 |
| Duck | frak, contributors are too efficient :-) | 15:27 |
| chandankumar | that's it from my side | 15:27 |
| hguemar | #action everyone help finding new ideas for easyfix | 15:27 |
| chandankumar | from pycon india 2017, what i find that people look for code contribution too much | 15:28 |
| hguemar | Then, we can look for documentation ideas | 15:28 |
| chandankumar | since openstack is too vast, they do not want to jump as another reason is hardware constriants they look for small ideas | 15:28 |
| * hguemar would love seeing a small pamphlet explaining how to deploy real cloud using RDO that we can hand out during events | 15:29 | |
| rbowen | +100000 | 15:29 |
| PagliaccisCloud | + | 15:29 |
| ykarel | +1 | 15:29 |
| amoralej | what do yu mean by "real cloud"? | 15:29 |
| rbowen | The bookmarks are always popular. Anything more in that direction would be even better. | 15:29 |
| chandankumar | if we get project ideas, we might approach for upcoming gsoc or opw in order mentor contributors | 15:29 |
| hguemar | amoralej: something that is not single node, packstack is too easy ;-) | 15:30 |
| amoralej | :) | 15:30 |
| chandankumar | hguemar: you mean something like zines. | 15:30 |
| jpena | packstack support multinode | 15:30 |
| * jpena hides | 15:30 | |
| rbowen | We have the TripleO bookmark which we had at OpenStack Summit last week. | 15:30 |
| PagliaccisCloud | ^ | 15:30 |
| amoralej | btw, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517644/ to add multinode to packstack gate | 15:30 |
| rbowen | https://www.rdoproject.org/use/bookmarks/01-tripleo-cheatsheet-deploying-tripleo.pdf | 15:30 |
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| hguemar | jpena: /o\ | 15:30 |
| chandankumar | hguemar: https://jvns.ca/zines/ ? | 15:30 |
| hguemar | chandankumar: something that cool would be terrific | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | rbowen: the doc is outdated and doesn't work anymore | 15:31 |
| EmilienM | I see it deploys EPEL | 15:31 |
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| chandankumar | that's it from my side. | 15:31 |
| PagliaccisCloud | i actually talked to my boss yesterday about getting into writing books. I'd love to write a "fancy openstack 4 beginners" book | 15:31 |
| chandankumar | what about RDO cookbook ? | 15:32 |
| dmsimard | rbowen: btw https://github.com/redhat-openstack/website/pull/1105 | 15:32 |
| PagliaccisCloud | maybe with little breakdowns on lesser-known services that can be enabled with the answers file? | 15:32 |
| rbowen | That sounds very useful. | 15:33 |
| chandankumar | hguemar: better i can start a thread for project idea | 15:33 |
| hguemar | That's all excellent ideas, don't forget to submit them to https://github.com/redhat-openstack/easyfix/issues | 15:33 |
| hguemar | chandankumar: ack | 15:33 |
| chandankumar | hguemar: next topic? | 15:34 |
| hguemar | Yes | 15:34 |
| hguemar | #topic DLRN on TripleO CI usage of GitHub reposa | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DLRN on TripleO CI usage of GitHub reposa (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2017-11-15)" | 15:34 | |
| hguemar | #undo | 15:35 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic DLRN on TripleO CI usage of GitHub reposa | 15:35 |
| hguemar | #topic DLRN on TripleO CI usage of GitHub repos | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DLRN on TripleO CI usage of GitHub repos (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2017-11-15)" | 15:35 | |
| hguemar | long-standing issue | 15:35 |
| jpena | if you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1730931, we are discussing the situation | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1730931 in tripleo "Github.com is used in TripleO CI for cloning distgit repos" [Critical,Triaged] | 15:35 |
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| jpena | TL;DR: DLRN uses stuff from GitHub (or review.rdo) to build packages, and that can cause trouble when we run CI jobs inside the OpenStack infra | 15:36 |
| hguemar | The change looks good, but can we ensure that our mirrors are more reliable than github's ? | 15:36 |
| hguemar | I suspect that 3o CI is just hitting throttling limiters from github | 15:36 |
| jpena | I'm not sure. In some cases we see DNS resolution errors (sounds familiar?) | 15:37 |
| hguemar | Interesting | 15:37 |
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| dmsimard | We also don't have a dedicated git cluster like upstream has | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | I'd be wary of the load involved in making all upstream jobs clone directly off of review.rdo | 15:37 |
| jpena | so afaik the policy for OpenStack CI is to not use external resources, which is an issue no matter if we use github or review.rdo | 15:37 |
| hguemar | My fear is that we don't have manpower and hardware to provide HA repo hosting | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | jpena: yes, +1 | 15:37 |
| amoralej | imho review.r.o is less reliable that github | 15:37 |
| dmsimard | amoralej: +1 | 15:38 |
| hguemar | *nods* | 15:38 |
| dmsimard | jpena: that particular bit was discussed briefly at the previous PTG | 15:38 |
| amoralej | unles we implement some synchronization to openstack-infra | 15:38 |
| jpena | then, what can we do? Is there a way to mirror our distgit and rdoinfo repos inside openstack-infra? | 15:38 |
| dmsimard | It was actually supposed to be brought up to the technical committee | 15:38 |
| hguemar | So has been it discussed? | 15:38 |
| dmsimard | jpena: the problem is not that tripleo pulls from outside openstack | 15:38 |
| hguemar | EmilienM: ^ | 15:38 |
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| dmsimard | it's that it *compiles* sources from outside openstack | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | RDO is outside openstack and can be used fine | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | tbh I was out the last 8 days | 15:39 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: what are they compiling? | 15:39 |
| jpena | mmm | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | but it's a grey area because this is only for CI purposes | 15:39 |
| EmilienM | I might miss context | 15:39 |
| jpena | I don't get that | 15:39 |
| hguemar | EmilienM: no worries :) | 15:39 |
| dmsimard | jpena: OpenStack projects under governance are supposed to be self-contained and independant, TripleO pulls spec files and builds packages that are not under OpenStack governance | 15:40 |
| dmsimard | It doesn't end up being in the actual TripleO "product" (or deliverable) so it's very grey | 15:40 |
| dmsimard | because tripleo only does that for testing purposes | 15:40 |
| jpena | dmsimard: that sounds like an excuse to me | 15:41 |
| jpena | i mean | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | OpenStack projects under governance AREN'T independant at all | 15:41 |
| EmilienM | they rely on python libraries, etc | 15:41 |
| jpena | dmsimard: if you do pip install cryptography, it's going to *compile* stuff locally | 15:41 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: pulling from pypi or repositories is fine | 15:41 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: ha, building packages. Well, tripleo being an installer relying on third-party packages, it is normal, that they do that | 15:41 |
| jpena | and that stuff is external from openstack | 15:41 |
| hguemar | *nods* | 15:41 |
| dmsimard | jpena: but you're not cloning python-crypto and then building the actual python module | 15:41 |
| jpena | dmsimard: we're not doing that either in tripleo. The actual sources come from Zuul | 15:42 |
| dmsimard | jpena: I'm not sure I follow.. from zuul ? | 15:42 |
| jpena | yes, let me explain | 15:42 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: how could they test if they can deploy latest code using packages if they don't do that? | 15:42 |
| jpena | if we send a patch to tripleo-heat-templates, it will be built by DLRN as part of the TripleO job | 15:43 |
| amoralej | dmsimard, i'm a bit lost, when we run p-o-i or tripleo we install RPMs from RDO | 15:43 |
| amoralej | is that ok? | 15:43 |
| dmsimard | amoralej: yes | 15:43 |
| hguemar | it's the build part of the jobs that seems to be a problem | 15:43 |
| amoralej | then what's the problem with building a package in the job? | 15:43 |
| jpena | but we are not pulling the tripleo-heat-templates source from github, we're copying that from the Zuul-generated output | 15:43 |
| jpena | which is why we build a package to begin with: because we want to test that code in its context | 15:43 |
| dmsimard | jpena: but it's pulling the spec file | 15:43 |
| dmsimard | jpena: which doesn't live in openstack | 15:44 |
| jpena | then we're back to python-cryptography | 15:44 |
| dmsimard | meh, I don't know. | 15:44 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: except for a licensing question, there are no real issues | 15:44 |
| dmsimard | Anyway, I'm the messenger here, and just trying my best to represent what was discussed in Denver | 15:44 |
| dmsimard | We should bring this up to mordred/clarkb/fungi/pabelanger who are more knowledgeable about the implications than I am | 15:45 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: well, I'd like to understand myself | 15:45 |
| jpena | seriously, I don't understand the concerns. Multiple projects use .deb/.rpm packages, which are external and accepted | 15:45 |
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| hguemar | I see an issue if our spec file were licensed under a non-openstack compatible licenses (which should not be the case) | 15:46 |
| dmsimard | ok, let me take the action to clarify this with the committee | 15:46 |
| jpena | and a deployment project that tests packages needs a way to build them if it needs to use the new code | 15:46 |
| hguemar | e.g: spec file license that forbids explicitly redistribution of resulting rpms | 15:46 |
| dmsimard | #action dmsimard to talk to Technical Committee about external sources in TripleO (follow-up from Denver discussion) | 15:46 |
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| EmilienM | :-O | 15:47 |
| hguemar | If it's licensing, I'd be happy (not litterally) to sync with legal to provide clearance | 15:47 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: you were at that discussion I think | 15:47 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: or maybe not, I don't remember | 15:47 |
| EmilienM | yeah now I remember it | 15:47 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: it came up when we discussed reliability of github (or lack thereof) | 15:47 |
| dmsimard | and it forked up to tripleo (and puppet-openstack) using sources from github | 15:47 |
| dmsimard | There was no conclusion as I recall, it just statu-quo'd | 15:48 |
| EmilienM | the lack of reliability and also the speed | 15:48 |
| amoralej | so, is the problem relying on github or using non-openstack code? | 15:48 |
| hguemar | yeah, two different matters | 15:48 |
| dmsimard | amoralej: the fact that it's on github, gitlab or wherever else is not relevant | 15:48 |
| hguemar | But I guess that we're running out of time | 15:49 |
| dmsimard | amoralej: the topic of "openstack projects using external sources" came about when we were discussing reliability of github | 15:49 |
| hguemar | I think the github/hosting discussion is important, but review.rdoproject.org may not be a reliable alternative to github | 15:49 |
| dmsimard | discussions at the PTG tend to fork and explode very often :) | 15:49 |
| jpena | dmsimard has an action, so let's take the discussion offline and move on with the agenda | 15:50 |
| amoralej | ok | 15:50 |
| dmsimard | +1 | 15:50 |
| hguemar | #topic Upstream LTS releases discussion | 15:50 |
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| EmilienM | o/ | 15:50 |
| hguemar | EmilienM: if you can explain us what was discussed :) | 15:50 |
| PagliaccisCloud | oooo | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LTS-proposal | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | well, it was interesting and intense | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | the discussion is now happening on the ML & this etherpad ^ | 15:50 |
| EmilienM | one of the problems we tried to solve was: | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | "how can we keep stable branches longer" | 15:51 |
| PagliaccisCloud | so... is it kind of like the rhosp model, but open source? | 15:51 |
| EmilienM | it's a collaboration of efforts between folks willing to take ownership of stable branches | 15:52 |
| hguemar | More or less (it's a bit different) | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | that can be operators, distros, etc | 15:52 |
| hguemar | Well, if we can agree to keep some branches living longer and with *tested* upgrades, that'd be awesome | 15:52 |
| EmilienM | details are being figured out now | 15:52 |
| PagliaccisCloud | interesting. not a bad idea at all | 15:53 |
| hguemar | EmilienM: is there a specific tag to follow on devel list? | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | where RDO could be helpful is to maintain builds for stable releases | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | hguemar: the LTS thread, did you see it? | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124308.html | 15:53 |
| EmilienM | and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LTS-proposal | 15:53 |
| hguemar | EmilienM: yes, but i feared missing a discussion | 15:54 |
| hguemar | AFAIK, if we stick to our own rules, as long as a release is not EOL, we keep building it | 15:54 |
| dmsimard | We need to plan accordingly | 15:55 |
| dmsimard | What's worrying me the most is the strain that supporting one or more additional releases will take on people and systems | 15:55 |
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| EmilienM | probably | 15:56 |
| dmsimard | If upstream decides to support LTS releases that's great and I hope companies sponsoring this work will provide the necessary resources to keep the things maintained and tested | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | that's why one of the biggest asks during the discussion was "you want it, help us" | 15:56 |
| dmsimard | But this also means that RDO has to keep an extra release, maintaining packages, mirrors, CI, etc. | 15:56 |
| hguemar | Yes, but I suspect that some of the work that the internal OSP team is doing can be done in RDO so we'd be able to mutualize some manpower and maybe hw resources | 15:56 |
| EmilienM | probably | 15:57 |
| dmsimard | hguemar: that's a fair *assumption* which I would very much like to formalize if Red Hat wants to move forward with this | 15:57 |
| amoralej | companies which require it probably are already doing it closely so doing it upstream will be more efficient | 15:57 |
| hguemar | dmsimard: yes, we should consider this granted, but I'd try to see if we can do something along that line | 15:57 |
| dmsimard | We're already struggling to keep up with the load in RDO cloud is just one of many examples | 15:58 |
| dmsimard | I'm not against the idea at all, I'm just saying we'll need help if we're going to do this | 15:58 |
| amoralej | dmsimard, about systems, i'm pretty sure we'll have to do it, so let's think what we need | 15:58 |
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| hguemar | dmsimard: well, we need to write a Xmas list and ask apevec to give it to Santa :o) | 15:59 |
| hguemar | Well, the Santas | 15:59 |
| amoralej | :) | 15:59 |
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| jpena | we can try to make up some numbers once we know what the upstream idea is | 16:00 |
| jpena | e.g. if we need to support 2 more releases, it means X more jobs per day, etc | 16:00 |
| hguemar | As for build systems, stable repos, CentOS has already prepared to support bigger load so I'm fine with that side (much is automated now, and it will be even simpler in the future) | 16:00 |
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| dmsimard | EmilienM: when will we know if upstream is moving forward with this ? Newton is already EOL'd, is it going to be un-EOL'd or would this be for a next eventual release ? | 16:00 |
| EmilienM | I'm not sure | 16:01 |
| EmilienM | it's hard to tell when things happen in open-source | 16:01 |
| EmilienM | it's being discussed | 16:01 |
| dmsimard | ok, can you be our liaison for this? :) | 16:01 |
| rbowen | I would expect that it would be going forward. | 16:01 |
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| rbowen | un-EOLing something seems complicated. | 16:02 |
| EmilienM | I can help for sure | 16:02 |
| EmilienM | but not sure I'll spend much time on that | 16:02 |
| dmsimard | rbowen: yeah it's not really a question of "if", more than a "when" and "how" | 16:02 |
| dmsimard | EmilienM: who else is driving it ? | 16:02 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: dhellmann is also involved | 16:02 |
| hguemar | rbowen: not possible in classical mechanics, but maybe in quantic mechanics :) | 16:02 |
| EmilienM | dmsimard: imho, it should be driven by people who actually maintain stable releases :D | 16:02 |
| dmsimard | fair | 16:03 |
| EmilienM | if they aren't involved, this project won't work | 16:03 |
| hguemar | Well, we're passed the hour mark | 16:03 |
| * chandankumar reminds, we already running out of time. | 16:03 | |
| hguemar | please wrap up | 16:03 |
| EmilienM | I think it's the last chance for LTS topic to survive | 16:03 |
| EmilienM | the community has been talking about it for years | 16:03 |
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| EmilienM | and this time was imho the last shot | 16:03 |
| EmilienM | if nothing is kicked off, we'll move on | 16:03 |
| PagliaccisCloud | :/ | 16:03 |
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| hguemar | Let's revisit this point next week | 16:04 |
| EmilienM | but it seems like discussions are making good progress on that etherpad | 16:04 |
| hguemar | (anyone up for chairing next week btw?) | 16:04 |
| jpena | I can chair next week | 16:04 |
| * chandankumar will be on PTo for 2 weeks | 16:04 | |
| hguemar | #info jpena chairing next week | 16:05 |
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| hguemar | Ok, let's close meeting, I'll add this point to the next meeting since we need to follow this topic | 16:05 |
| hguemar | Thank you for attending! | 16:05 |
| hguemar | #endmeeting | 16:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 16:05:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2017_11_15/2017/rdo_meeting___2017_11_15.2017-11-15-15.02.html | 16:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2017_11_15/2017/rdo_meeting___2017_11_15.2017-11-15-15.02.txt | 16:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rdo_meeting___2017_11_15/2017/rdo_meeting___2017_11_15.2017-11-15-15.02.log.html | 16:05 |
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| hguemar | It started with an empty agenda :) | 16:06 |
| chandankumar | good night guys, see ya tomorrow :-) | 16:08 |
| PagliaccisCloud | g'nite chandankumar \o | 16:09 |
| PagliaccisCloud | back to openshift for me | 16:09 |
| hguemar | chandankumar: enjoy your vacations :) | 16:09 |
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| apevec | jpena, dmsimard, hguemar, EmilienM - catching up meeting discussion about LTS (I had conflicting mtg): iiuc current upstream LTS proposal is w/o tagged releases, so we would keep only RDO trunk running longer, as we already discussed for tripleo stable/newton | 16:54 |
| apevec | i.e. not CBS stabel builds | 16:55 |
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| hguemar | apevec: well, I suspect that vendors will want tagged builds but I'm fine with revisiting policy (we have limited means as of today) | 17:06 |
| hguemar | But tagged builds (except CI) does not require much resources | 17:07 |
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| hguemar | As we have single branch for DLRN/CBS builds, everything is automated (NVR bumps, CBS builds, update promotions) | 17:08 |
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| rdogerrit | Gabriele Cerami created rdo-infra/ci-config master: Promoter: promote hash only after other steps completed https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10531 | 17:17 |
| jpena | apevec, jruzicka, flepied: any comment on https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/10212 before I merge it? | 17:18 |
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| hguemar | +1 | 17:20 |
| hguemar | Then we can move forward with https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10182/ | 17:21 |
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| jpena | btw, hguemar: could you have a look at my latest comment on https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10382? For some reason, the /bin/hostname dependency isn't working for dnf on rawhide, that's why I changed it to the package name | 17:29 |
| hguemar | ack | 17:30 |
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| amoralej | hguemar, apevec according to what is in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LTS-proposal it seems there is consensus on not tagging in LTS branches | 17:31 |
| hguemar | jpena: interesting, /usr/bin/hostname works but not /bin/hostname, could be a bug/change in dnf | 17:31 |
| jpena | hguemar: yes, it's strange. Also, /usr/bin/hostname does not work for centos | 17:32 |
| hguemar | amoralej: then, we can move forward with trunk builds (maybe with a twist in NVR for long-term) | 17:32 |
| hguemar | jpena: let's settle to package name then | 17:32 |
| amoralej | hguemar, yes, i think it makes sense to have only RDO Trunk for those | 17:33 |
| amoralej | about twist in NVR, why do we need it? | 17:33 |
| amoralej | or you mean adding something to the release to mark is lts? | 17:33 |
| hguemar | amoralej: just to allow people switching from CBS builds to DLRN builds gracefully | 17:34 |
| amoralej | with pbr semver that should be the case | 17:34 |
| amoralej | now | 17:34 |
| amoralej | if last tag was 1.0.0 | 17:34 |
| amoralej | pkgs in lts would be 1.0.1 | 17:34 |
| amoralej | so it should be fine | 17:34 |
| hguemar | amoralej: yes, if they are tagged properly, but not for all projects :( | 17:35 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-common-distgit rpm-master: Change the dependency from /bin/hostname to hostname https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10382 | 17:37 |
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| rdogerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed rdoinfo master: Add Neutron tempest plugin project https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10522 | 17:41 |
| jlibosva | amoralej: hi - re https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10522/1 - what should I do to create the package? | 17:41 |
| jlibosva | in the provided link I just see another rdoinfo change similar to mine | 17:42 |
| amoralej | jlibosva, give me a while... | 17:42 |
| chandankumar | jlibosva: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10522/ please rebase it | 17:42 |
| jruzicka | jpena, yeah, looks OK. | 17:42 |
| chandankumar | jlibosva: once it is merged, the repo is will be created automatically | 17:42 |
| rdogerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed rdoinfo master: Add Neutron tempest plugin project https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10522 | 17:42 |
| amoralej | jlibosva, https://www.rdoproject.org/documentation/add-packages/ | 17:42 |
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| jlibosva | amoralej: so do I understand it correctly I need to wait for the initial license check before sending a patch to rdoinfo? | 17:45 |
| amoralej | jlibosva, i'm doing it | 17:45 |
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| amoralej | once that patch is merged, we'll create the new repo | 17:46 |
| amoralej | then you send the initial spec | 17:46 |
| amoralej | when merged, remove the under-review and uncomment queens/queens-uc | 17:46 |
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| amoralej | and done :) | 17:46 |
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| jlibosva | amoralej: I mean that I don't understand "First you need to create the package with under-review tag only. See https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10004/ for reference" was it just a request to put under-review in the yml and commit msg? | 17:47 |
| sfbender | Merged DLRN master: run_tests.sh: allow passing distro and baseurl https://softwarefactory-project.io/r/10212 | 17:47 |
| amoralej | jlibosva, yes | 17:47 |
| amoralej | sorry i didn't explain it better | 17:47 |
| jlibosva | ok, sorry for stupid questions :) | 17:47 |
| amoralej | "create the package" i meant add it to rdoinfo | 17:48 |
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| jlibosva | now I gotcha | 17:48 |
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| rdogerrit | Javier Peña proposed config master: Create non-voting job to test DLRN builds in Fedora https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10182 | 18:03 |
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| jpena | for the first time since forever, the Fedora Rawhide worker is consistent: https://trunk.rdoproject.org/f25/consistent/ ^_^ | 18:08 |
| jpena | (and yes, the URL will be updated to reflect that it's rawhide) | 18:08 |
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| apevec | re. <hguemar> amoralej: yes, if they are tagged properly, but not for all projects :( | 18:25 |
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| apevec | tagging properly would just one of requirements for getting LTS imho | 18:25 |
| apevec | LTS branches will be per project | 18:26 |
| apevec | when enough folks willing to maintain them show up | 18:26 |
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| apevec | there won't be whole openstack lts | 18:26 |
| amoralej | yes, that's my understanding | 18:26 |
| rdogerrit | Thiago da Silva proposed openstack/swift-distgit rpm-master: Adding castellan and oslo-config requirements https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10530 | 18:32 |
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| thework1 | nice | 20:04 |
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| rdogerrit | Jakub Libosvar proposed rdoinfo master: Add Neutron tempest plugin project https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10522 | 20:07 |
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| rdogerrit | Merged config master: Use commit:$REAL_COMMIT while creating reviews https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10527 | 20:12 |
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| rdogerrit | Gabriele Cerami created rdo-infra/ci-config master: Promoter: check a list of the 5 latest hash for a valid candidate https://review.rdoproject.org/r/10534 | 20:37 |
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| hguemar | tdasilva: a nitpick on https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/10530 | 21:04 |
| hguemar | after it's fixed, I'm merging it since Pete approved | 21:05 |
| tdasilva | hguemar: hi! looking... | 21:05 |
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| tdasilva | hguemar: might need some help, can you point me at an example | 21:06 |
| hguemar | oh, sure | 21:06 |
| hguemar | I added an inline comments with a snippet on how to fix the spec | 21:09 |
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