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| lyarwood | amoralej: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17238/ - If you have anytime this morning this spec should be in a much better place now. | 09:33 |
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| amoralej | lyarwood, there is no placement.conf or something like that? | 09:39 |
| lyarwood | amoralej: there is, should I generate an example and stash it in /etc/placement? | 09:40 |
| amoralej | lyarwood, yes | 09:40 |
| lyarwood | amoralej: kk | 09:40 |
| amoralej | with default options | 09:40 |
| amoralej | does it support oslo-config-generate? | 09:40 |
| amoralej | that's the preferred option | 09:40 |
| lyarwood | yeah it does | 09:41 |
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| amoralej | lyarwood, wrt httpd config file | 09:43 |
| amoralej | most project don't provide it in packaging | 09:43 |
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| amoralej | in the past we had issues with conflicts between config files provided by packages and the ones generated by deployment tools | 09:43 |
| amoralej | maybe it could be included as a doc instead of actual config file | 09:44 |
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| amoralej | or disabled by default | 09:44 |
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| lyarwood | amoralej: so I've included the sample as placement.conf as openstack-nova already does | 09:50 |
| amoralej | that's ok too | 09:50 |
| amoralej | i'm sending more comments... | 09:50 |
| lyarwood | ack thanks again! :) | 09:51 |
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| sshnaidm|rover | apevec, hi, can you please remind me how I encrypt passwords for zuul in config/ repo? | 10:52 |
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| sshnaidm|rover | forgot this long command.. | 10:52 |
| tristanC | sshnaidm|rover: using the tools/encrypt_secret.py from zuul project ( http://git.zuul-ci.org/cgit/zuul/tree/tools/encrypt_secret.py ) | 10:55 |
| tristanC | sshnaidm|rover: you can encrypt new secret using this command: ./encrypt_secret.py https://review.rdoproject.org/zuul config | 10:56 |
| tristanC | (actually, i'm currently working on some new documentation about using secrets in job :) | 10:56 |
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| apevec | tristanC, thanks, in the meantime let's put that in our temporary sfio KB | 10:57 |
| apevec | I mean those few lines, | 10:57 |
| apevec | for review.rdo specifically, since it's coming up regularly | 10:58 |
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| sshnaidm|rover | tristanC, does it encrypt from file only? | 11:09 |
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| tristanC | sshnaidm|rover: by default it encrypt stdin, use the --infile argument to encrypt a file | 11:19 |
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| amoralej | it's meeting time, right? | 15:01 |
| amoralej | i'm lost with DST | 15:01 |
| amoralej | #startmeeting RDO meeting - 2018-11-07 | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 7 15:01:56 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amoralej. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2018-11-07)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rdo_meeting___2018_11_07' | 15:02 |
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| amoralej | #topic roll call | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2018-11-07)" | 15:02 | |
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| PagliaccisCloud | \o | 15:02 |
| jpena | o/ | 15:03 |
| amoralej | #chair PagliaccisCloud jpena | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud amoralej jpena | 15:03 |
| amoralej | gfidente are you around? | 15:03 |
| amoralej | there is a topic for you | 15:04 |
| gfidente | amoralej hey | 15:05 |
| amoralej | #chair gfidente | 15:05 |
| openstack | Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud amoralej gfidente jpena | 15:05 |
| amoralej | let's wait a couple more minutes | 15:05 |
| baha | o/ | 15:07 |
| amoralej | #chair baha | 15:09 |
| openstack | Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud amoralej baha gfidente jpena | 15:09 |
| amoralej | apevec, are you around? | 15:09 |
| mjturek | o/ | 15:10 |
| amoralej | #chair mjturek | 15:11 |
| openstack | Current chairs: PagliaccisCloud amoralej baha gfidente jpena mjturek | 15:11 |
| amoralej | so let's start with first topic | 15:11 |
| amoralej | #topic [CentOS-devel] SIGs: Possibility to drop EOL content at 7.6.1810 release time | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[CentOS-devel] SIGs: Possibility to drop EOL content at 7.6.1810 release time (Meeting topic: RDO meeting - 2018-11-07)" | 15:11 | |
| amoralej | #info ceph-jewel requires by Ocata and Pike, but Ceph Jewel is EOLed upstream | 15:12 |
| amoralej | gfidente, so the point is what to do with ceph-jewel | 15:12 |
| amoralej | iiuc, it's not supported upstream | 15:13 |
| amoralej | but we need it for ocata and pike | 15:13 |
| gfidente | amoralej and newton even | 15:13 |
| amoralej | newton is eol | 15:13 |
| amoralej | it's not longer available in RDO | 15:13 |
| amoralej | so the options are move ocata and pike to luminous | 15:14 |
| amoralej | or maintain jewel in RDO | 15:14 |
| amoralej | the problem is what to do if there is any critical bug or security issue in jewel | 15:15 |
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| gfidente | and we can't really move ocata and pike to luminous because tripleo won't be able to deploy it, luminous introduced a new ceph-mgr | 15:16 |
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| gfidente | amoralej so if I understood correctly the options are | 15:16 |
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| amoralej | gfidente, jewel branch in ceph is closed? | 15:16 |
| gfidente | amoralej jewel should remain supported by ceph until the next two LTS are published, which means Luminous and Nautilus | 15:18 |
| gfidente | Nautilus is not out yet | 15:18 |
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| apevec | amoralej, I'm on a call | 15:19 |
| amoralej | then, why apevec mentioned "ceph jewel is EOLed upstream"? | 15:19 |
| apevec | gfidente, so jewel EOL mentioned on centos-devel is not correct? | 15:19 |
| apevec | amoralej, I'm just a messanger... | 15:19 |
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| amoralej | yeah apevec, i was not finger pointing, :) | 15:20 |
| gfidente | well it was supposedly after 18 months from release | 15:20 |
| gfidente | hence june 2018 | 15:20 |
| gfidente | but nautilus is going out a bit later so jewel is still not EOL | 15:20 |
| apevec | gfidente, ok, please clarify that on centos-devel list | 15:20 |
| amoralej | what's expected GA for nautilus? | 15:20 |
| gfidente | http://docs.ceph.com/docs/mimic/releases/schedule/ | 15:21 |
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| gfidente | 9 months after mimic, which did go out on june | 15:22 |
| amoralej | gfidente, "For example, Luminous (12.2.z) will reach end of life (EOL) shortly after Nautilus (14.2.0) is released" | 15:22 |
| gfidente | amoralej exactly | 15:22 |
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| gfidente | and each release takes 9 months | 15:22 |
| amoralej | that's luminous, not jewel | 15:23 |
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| amoralej | sorry, still reading | 15:23 |
| amoralej | it's lts | 15:23 |
| gfidente | so nautilus should be apr 2019 | 15:23 |
| gfidente | amoralej lts, exactly, so every two lts | 15:23 |
| amoralej | but it says | 15:23 |
| amoralej | Jewel will be maintained until Mimic is released in the spring of 2018. | 15:23 |
| amoralej | it's confusing | 15:23 |
| gfidente | amoralej because until jewel, lts was every 2 stable | 15:24 |
| gfidente | amoralej from luminous this changes into no-lts, every stable only lasts 2 releases | 15:24 |
| amoralej | ok, so if jewel is still supported, we are good | 15:24 |
| amoralej | just, please clarify it in the mailing list | 15:24 |
| amoralej | pike EOL is suposed to be in 2019-03-03 | 15:25 |
| gfidente | amoralej so until jewel, it would have lasted until next two lts were out (aka, 6*3 = 18 months) | 15:25 |
| amoralej | which is not too far away | 15:25 |
| gfidente | amoralej from luminous every stable is lts, but releae is 9 months | 15:25 |
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| amoralej | ok | 15:25 |
| gfidente | amoralej so from luminous it is 2*9 = 18months | 15:25 |
| gfidente | (still 18, but for a different reason, yes) | 15:25 |
| amoralej | what is clear is that jewel has no "Actual retirement" date yet in http://docs.ceph.com/docs/mimic/releases/schedule/ | 15:26 |
| apevec | gfidente, amoralej - centos-devel thread https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2018-November/017025.html | 15:26 |
| amoralej | so as you said | 15:26 |
| amoralej | seems supported | 15:26 |
| gfidente | and no EOL tag | 15:26 |
| apevec | (sorry I'm not following, will read minutes) | 15:26 |
| amoralej | apevec, short version, jewel is still supported | 15:26 |
| apevec | ok please clarify that in ^ thread | 15:27 |
| amoralej | gfidente, for my education, where can i see EOL tags? | 15:28 |
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| gfidente | amoralej next to the release name, the table headings | 15:30 |
| amoralej | ah, ok | 15:30 |
| gfidente | and thanks a lot for helping ! | 15:30 |
| amoralej | i was looking for EOL git tags :) | 15:31 |
| amoralej | #info jewel is not EOLed yet so it will be included in CentOS 7.6 | 15:31 |
| amoralej | #action gfidente to send a mail to centos-devel existing thread about the topic | 15:31 |
| amoralej | #link http://docs.ceph.com/docs/mimic/releases/schedule/ | 15:32 |
| amoralej | gfidente, ^ are you ok with this? | 15:32 |
| gfidente | amoralej yes! | 15:32 |
| gfidente | thanks! | 15:32 |
| amoralej | so, there are no more topics in the agenda | 15:32 |
| amoralej | let's move to open floor | 15:32 |
| amoralej | well, first | 15:33 |
| amoralej | #topic chair next week | 15:33 |
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| amoralej | any volunteer? | 15:33 |
| mjturek | I can handle | 15:33 |
| amoralej | #action mjturek to chair next week | 15:34 |
| amoralej | thanks mjturek | 15:34 |
| amoralej | #topic open floor | 15:34 |
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| mjturek | np | 15:34 |
| amoralej | does anyone have something to bring? | 15:35 |
| baha | mjturek and I do! | 15:35 |
| amoralej | ok | 15:35 |
| PagliaccisCloud | i do: I haven't heard back from anyone about the contributor workshop for red hat summit 2019 :( | 15:35 |
| mjturek | yeah we're not sure what could be done here, but we ran into a package in containers builds that won't hit centos ppc64le opstools for about a month | 15:35 |
| baha | It's provided by epel, and works just fine there, but they're currently in repo freeze. | 15:36 |
| mjturek | rubygem(ffi) | 15:36 |
| amoralej | PagliaccisCloud, let's start with mjturek point if it's ok for you | 15:36 |
| PagliaccisCloud | oh i'm sorry, ok | 15:36 |
| amoralej | mrunge, ^ about rubygem package | 15:37 |
| mjturek | he's aware | 15:37 |
| baha | He's marked it already I believe, but the opstools repos are in freeze for a month or so. | 15:37 |
| mjturek | would including it in delorean deps or something be out of line? | 15:37 |
| amoralej | i see the package in https://cbs.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=18834 | 15:38 |
| amoralej | properly tagged | 15:38 |
| amoralej | mmm | 15:38 |
| mjturek | right but with the repo freeze baha mentioned | 15:38 |
| amoralej | adding it to deps repo will fail | 15:38 |
| amoralej | because of missing deps | 15:38 |
| amoralej | it will not pass ci to add it formally | 15:38 |
| mjturek | hmmm okay | 15:38 |
| amoralej | that's just for master? | 15:38 |
| amoralej | or rocky too? | 15:39 |
| mjturek | I think all supported releases | 15:39 |
| mjturek | as the sensu container is built for all of them if my understanding is right | 15:39 |
| amoralej | blocks all jobs? or only certain Featuresets? | 15:39 |
| amoralej | i mean, could you disable sensu container? | 15:39 |
| mjturek | that I'm not sure about. Is there a way to blacklist containers in the build job | 15:40 |
| mjturek | ? | 15:40 |
| baha | That would be a valid workaround until opstools comes out of freeze, if it exists | 15:40 |
| mjturek | +1 | 15:41 |
| amoralej | i think that'd be best option until then | 15:41 |
| mjturek | we'll look into that | 15:41 |
| mjturek | thanks! | 15:41 |
| baha | Do you know if it's something the current build system actually supports, though? | 15:41 |
| amoralej | i'm not sure | 15:42 |
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| amoralej | there is the concept of profiles, iirc | 15:42 |
| amoralej | you could create a new profile with all the containers in the tripleo one but sensu | 15:42 |
| mjturek | baha was working towards that awhile back | 15:42 |
| mjturek | but stopped when it looked like we were going to get all the builds working | 15:43 |
| baha | That's true! And the workaround to replace the profile was somewhat hacked together. It's probably okay to do it while we waiting on the package to sync over though. | 15:43 |
| amoralej | do you know why opstools repo is disabled? | 15:43 |
| amoralej | frozen, i mean | 15:43 |
| baha | I believe they're gearing up for a release cycle, and will unfreeze afterward | 15:44 |
| mjturek | not sure there :-\ | 15:44 |
| amoralej | mjturek, baha other option would be to use https://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/opstools/ppc64le/common/ | 15:45 |
| amoralej | i see rubygem-ffi there | 15:45 |
| amoralej | that's -testing repo | 15:45 |
| amoralej | i'm not sure if you enable repos manually or tripleo does it | 15:45 |
| mjturek | amoralej right, I guess we're just not sure how to enable a repo in all containers | 15:45 |
| amoralej | but if you can add that | 15:46 |
| baha | Would it be preferred that we use testing over using epel, if we start changing repository configurations? | 15:46 |
| amoralej | yes | 15:46 |
| amoralej | -testing should be better that -epel | 15:46 |
| amoralej | so, i think you have two options to test :) | 15:47 |
| mjturek | yeaaah we'll play around with those | 15:47 |
| baha | thanks amoralej! | 15:47 |
| amoralej | ok | 15:48 |
| amoralej | PagliaccisCloud, wrt the contributor workshop | 15:48 |
| amoralej | i think the action was to discuss with leanthertal? | 15:48 |
| PagliaccisCloud | Yeah but she's OoO :/ | 15:49 |
| PagliaccisCloud | Rich, too | 15:49 |
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| PagliaccisCloud | Just in case I can't get ahold of them before CFP closes, would anyone else be willing to team up? | 15:50 |
| PagliaccisCloud | email me - tribecca [at] tribecc [dot] us | 15:50 |
| amoralej | i like the idea | 15:50 |
| amoralej | a lot | 15:50 |
| amoralej | not sure about my availability | 15:51 |
| amoralej | i'll check and let you know | 15:51 |
| PagliaccisCloud | ok, i appreciate it amoralej | 15:51 |
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| amoralej | anything else? | 15:53 |
| amoralej | otherwise i'll close and give you some minutes back | 15:53 |
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| amoralej | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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| amoralej | thank you all for joining | 15:54 |
| amoralej | have a good week | 15:54 |
| PagliaccisCloud | thanks everyone! | 15:56 |
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| apevec | gfidente, amoralej - I sent summary clarification on centos-devel re. 7.6 EOLs | 18:17 |
| amoralej | ack | 18:18 |
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| apevec | amoralej, btw did we say to cross-post RDO meeting minutes as Cloud SIG update to centos-devel ? CC number80 | 18:40 |
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| amoralej | dunno | 18:40 |
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| number80 | apevec: we should to, but maybe I didn't update the etherpad | 19:25 |
| * number80 updated etherpad | 19:26 | |
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