Wednesday, 2018-11-14

rdogerritrdo-trunk proposed rdoinfo master: Bump rdoinfo stein-uc tags to latest upper-constraints  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1731900:02
rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: Promote CBS tags update for pike-release  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734600:02
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chandankumarnumber80, Hello05:31
chandankumarnumber80, http://logs.openstack.org/21/617621/1/gate/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario000-multinode-oooq-container-updates/a3f814a/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/install_packages.sh.log.txt.gz#_2018-11-14_00_37_0505:31
chandankumarnumber80, file /usr/share/man/man1/docker-attach.1.gz conflicts between attempted installs of podman-0.11.1-1.gita4adfe5.el7.x86_64 and docker-2:1.13.1-75.git8633870.el7.centos.x86_6405:31
chandankumarnumber80, please have a look05:32
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rdogerritchkumar246 created openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Pin podman to 0.10.1.3-4.gitee513cc  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734706:47
rdogerritchkumar246 created rdo-jobs master: [DNM] testing container build podman  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734806:52
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rdogerritchkumar246 proposed openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Install podman < 0.11.1-1.gita4adfe5.el7  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734707:01
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rdogerritchkumar246 proposed rdo-jobs master: [DNM] testing container build podman  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734807:11
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number80chkumar|ruck: ack07:40
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chkumar|rucknumber80, Hello08:00
number80Hi08:00
chkumar|rucknumber80, is it possible to test rdo spec file changes with tripleo ci job?08:00
number80chkumar|ruck: some packages do have tripleo-ci job in non-voting but not all of them08:01
chkumar|rucknumber80, ok08:01
chkumar|rucknumber80, what should i do here https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17347/ to keep the ball rolling?08:01
chkumar|ruckalmost all ci is blocked because of this08:01
number80For tripleoclient, we need input from maintainers, podman conflicts docker08:02
number80chkumar|ruck: can you check if previous jobs installed both docker/podman?08:02
chkumar|rucknumber80, sure checking08:02
number80it was not supposed to work, but we can merge this to unblock CI until people at summit are up to provide proper fix08:03
chkumar|rucknumber80, http://logs.openstack.org/57/616157/5/gate/tripleo-ci-centos-7-standalone/72fe9a6/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/install_packages.sh.log.txt.gz#_2018-11-14_01_03_2408:04
chkumar|rucknumber80, it is the last successful one both podman and docker got installed08:05
number80chkumar|ruck: ack, let's merge this08:05
number80But I'll raise that issue so it gets proper fix08:05
chkumar|rucknumber80, sure08:05
chkumar|rucknumber80, what about including podman under deps and once a new version come first test it and then run ut?08:06
chkumar|ruckit?08:06
chkumar|rucknumber80, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/180323208:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1803232 in tripleo "podman 0.11.1 rpm conflicts with docker" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Emilien Macchi (emilienm)08:06
number80chkumar|ruck: we'd have not to rely on SIG repo08:06
number80we cannot control this repo08:06
number80And if we fail with SIG package, we have high probability to fail with RHEL package08:07
chkumar|rucknumber80, yes, correct, better we need to take preventive action if we still need to depend on sig repo08:10
chkumar|rucknumber80, can we merge this then https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17347/2 ? or any other fix I need to add here08:10
number80chkumar|ruck: I'm adding a comment before merging in spec08:11
chkumar|rucknumber80, sure08:11
rdogerrithguemar proposed openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Install podman < 0.11.1-1.gita4adfe5.el7  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734708:13
number80What strikes me is that rpm conflicts did not trigger before08:13
number80Ha, we did not have podman-docker subpackage before08:14
chkumar|rucknumber80, since they are replacing docker with podman why to keep podman-docker subpackage then08:16
number80chkumar|ruck: I suspect for compat but it doesn't have provides: docker08:16
number80oh there is bug in package08:17
chkumar|rucknumber80, in podman itself?08:18
number80chkumar|ruck: yeah, podman-docker manpages were duplicated in podman main package08:18
number80Fixing it in Fedora08:18
chkumar|rucknumber80, do we want to fork podman spec file in rdo-common?08:19
number80chkumar|ruck: nope, this is dumb mistake, I'll have a fix in Fedora and will ping CBS maintainer08:20
chkumar|rucknumber80, I think better we can propose to have a comaintainer from cloud sig in all the sig from which we consume packages?08:20
chkumar|ruckI am not sure it is a better idea, as it will increase our burden08:22
number80chkumar|ruck: that would be a possibility but it might not be possible depending their workflow too08:22
chkumar|rucknumber80, yes, let's propose the idea in cloud sig meeting and let's see what other say08:24
chkumar|rucknumber80, let's merge it08:41
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number80chkumar|ruck: +W09:05
number80sorry had phone calls from contractor09:06
chkumar|rucknumber80, no problem, thanks :-)09:06
chkumar|rucknumber80, till when it will be available in trunk repo?09:06
number80chkumar|ruck: issue will be promotion pipeline09:09
number80if we don't get promotion soon, it might take time09:09
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rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Install podman < 0.11.1-1.gita4adfe5.el7  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734709:18
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rdogerritchkumar246 proposed rdo-jobs master: [DNM] testing container build podman  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734809:24
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number80chkumar|ruck: fixed => https://cbs.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2456309:33
number80EmilienM: ^09:33
number80At least, we have podman package fixed soon09:33
chkumar|rucknumber80, let me revert then09:34
number80chkumar|ruck: not yet09:34
number80This is a summit week, so let's not be hasty09:34
number80priority is to get CI pipeline back on its feet and then we can remove workaround when other people can help with fixing stuff09:35
chkumar|rucknumber80, is it possible to promote this package manually?09:36
number80chkumar|ruck: individual package nope09:36
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chkumar|rucknumber80, http://logs.rdoproject.org/48/17348/3/check/periodic-tripleo-centos-7-master-containers-build/177f828/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/install_packages.sh.log.txt.gz I tried test job here but it is not picked by the job09:36
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number80Yes, we need to get promotion asap09:36
number80(Pushing a manual promotion is not okay as we have currently issues)09:37
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amoralejnumber80, i think oooq use -testing repo09:46
amoralejfrom virt-common09:46
amoralejiirc09:46
number80amoralej: yes, but it needs to be synced and we have to test new podman before removing workaround09:47
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amoralejah, yeah, right09:49
chkumar|ruckamoralej, number80 http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-quickstart/tree/config/release/tripleo-ci/CentOS-7/promotion-testing-hash-master.yml#n10209:50
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lyarwoodamoralej: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17345/ - Are we waiting on anything before we can +W this? Anything I can help with?10:05
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lyarwoodjpena: thanks :)10:13
rdogerritMerged rdoinfo master: Enable openstack-placement builds  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734510:19
amoralejups, sorry i missed the +W10:19
lyarwoodamoralej: np, thanks for all of your help thus far :)10:20
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rdogerritJavier Peña proposed rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Improve SSL cert renewal  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1731710:32
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chkumar|ruckamoralej, number80 python-tripleoclient changes are now picked up by jobs10:48
chkumar|ruckamoralej, number80 now we have new issue https://logs.rdoproject.org/openstack-periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/master/periodic-tripleo-centos-7-master-containers-build/06738e4/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/undercloud_install.log.txt.gz#_2018-11-14_10_08_4210:50
number80oh10:50
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amoralejchkumar|ruck, "Processing Dependency: podman < 0.11.1-1.gita4adfe5.el7" ?10:55
chkumar|ruckamoralej, yes10:56
chkumar|ruckamoralej, it is coming from here http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/tree/puppet/services/podman.yaml#n7110:56
rdogerritMerged rdo-infra/rdo-infra-playbooks master: Role and playbook for images.rdoproject.org  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1716710:57
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chkumar|ruckamoralej, better solution, we can revert the patch11:02
rdogerritchkumar246 created openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Revert "Install podman < 0.11.1-1.gita4adfe5.el7"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734911:03
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chkumar|ruckamoralej, number80 jpena ^^11:04
amoralejchkumar|ruck, what i don't understand11:05
chkumar|ruckamoralej, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1803232 ->11:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1803232 in tripleo "podman 0.11.1 rpm conflicts with docker" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Emilien Macchi (emilienm)11:05
amoralejin the original review it says that podman.x86_64 0:0.11.1-1.gita4adfe5.el711:05
amoralejis bad11:05
amoralejwill not that revert break it again?11:05
chkumar|ruckamoralej, new package is available now11:05
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chkumar|ruckamoralej, https://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/virt/x86_64/container/podman-docker-0.11.1-2.gita4adfe5.el7.noarch.rpm11:06
chkumar|ruckamoralej, Tengu just tested it locally11:06
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dciabrinnumber80, hey do we have the rdo meeting this week?11:15
number80dciabrin: yes11:15
apevecit was not canceled https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting11:15
number80most of us are not in Berlin :)11:15
dciabrinnumber80, great :)11:15
dciabrinnumber80, I mean great for the meeting :)11:16
misca shame, berlin is quite close and a nice city11:16
number80Well, I'm glad not to travel currently, I have a lot of stuff to deal with at home11:16
apevecwe don't have a chair?11:16
number80possible, but I'll chair if nobody shows up11:17
* apevec is double booked 1500 utc, ping me in meeting to read later11:18
number80ack11:20
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rdogerritMerged openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Revert "Install podman < 0.11.1-1.gita4adfe5.el7"  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1734911:40
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amoralejnumber80, i'll add a [stein] to https://trello.com/c/qm6LiTCV/682-pacemaker12:02
number80ack12:06
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rdogerritAlfredo Moralejo proposed rdoinfo master: Make ansible-role-redhat-subscription available in pike.  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1731412:29
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EmilienMchkumar|ruck: thanks for your help on podman12:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack master: Update min tox version to 2.0  https://review.openstack.org/61505513:29
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack master: Replace deprecated puppet-magnum parameters  https://review.openstack.org/61650913:41
openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack master: Remove dhcp_agent_scheduler API extension for OVN in tempest conf  https://review.openstack.org/59498313:41
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number80RDO meeting the next hour!14:24
number80Agenda here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/RDO-Meeting14:25
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trozetapevec, amoralej: are you guys still trying to get this in? https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/13839/14:36
trozetwondering when OVS will be updated14:36
rdogerritEmilien Macchi created config master: tripleoclient-distgit: run tripleo fs010 job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735014:37
rdogerritEmilien Macchi created openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Pin podman to 0.11.1-2.gita4adfe5.el7  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735114:37
EmilienMweshay, mwhahaha ^ preventive actions for testing podman before promoting it in TripleO CI14:38
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rdogerritEmilien Macchi proposed config master: tripleoclient-distgit: run tripleo fs016 job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735014:40
weshayEmilienM, https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17350/1/zuul.d/projects.yaml can we use the standalone?14:41
EmilienMweshay: on14:41
EmilienMno14:41
EmilienMweshay: standalone doesn't run podman yet14:41
EmilienMbro14:41
EmilienMbe patient we are working on it14:41
weshayok.. thought there was a review on that14:41
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EmilienMweshay: WIP14:41
EmilienMTengu: https://review.rdoproject.org/zuul/status14:41
weshaymeh.. WIP just another day14:42
EmilienMsee now we'll have a tripleo job running for tripleoclient-distgit14:42
weshaywe need to sync up on package gates again.. but after amoralej and panda|rover are done coverting the jobs to zuulv314:42
panda|roverhe was there, standing alone, in the cloud. I asked: "who are you?". He replied "I'm podman". Then he crashed.14:43
weshaypanda the poet ladies and gents14:43
weshayevery channel needs a poet14:43
EmilienMomg14:43
panda|roverpoems, poems everybody (said like the professor in "The Wall")14:44
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EmilienMweshay: follow https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613975/14:44
EmilienMthat will migrate standalone job to podman14:44
EmilienMwhat Tengu is working on14:44
weshayTengu, you have a dupe job defined?14:45
EmilienMamoralej: I would use your feedback/review on https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:podman+status:open14:45
weshayone with podman one w/ docker14:45
EmilienMweshay: no and we won't14:45
EmilienMwe are switching the jobs from docker to podman incrementaly14:46
EmilienMstandalone is next14:46
weshayEmilienM, Tengu especially in this cycle.. it would be a good idea to think about ways we can introduce new features into the upstream in a more reliable fashion to catch race conditions and inconsistent errors14:47
weshaymaybe it's not duping the job, but that seems like a pretty good way to do it w/ the standalone job imho14:48
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Tenguwell, that's what sshnaidm|pto was talking about in the review.14:51
Tenguand we will probably need some kind of "validate upgrade" job as well in order to ensure the move from docker -> podman is actually working.14:52
number80CRDO meeting in 5 min14:53
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number80EmilienM: we were too quick in reverting workaround, but there's a podman fixed build in virt SIG14:55
EmilienMnumber80: yes I know14:56
rdogerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Pin podman to 0.11.1-2.gita4adfe5.el7  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735114:57
number80This one is acceptable14:57
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Tengustill... not 100% sure pinning the version in the package spec is the right thing to do :/. In case the package is removed from the repository, we're again hitting a broken CI14:58
EmilienMTengu: I see there is some history in the rpm14:58
EmilienMnumber80: what other option to secure podman bumps?14:58
Tenguwouldn't it be possible to mirror the podman RPM somewhere and use that mirrored version instead?14:58
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EmilienMthe only other option I see is to build podman in delorean14:59
Tenguso that we can, on OUR will, update that without having to re-re-re-re-rebuild a python-tripleoclient package each time?14:59
EmilienMTengu: it's manual14:59
EmilienMTengu: it's like puppet now, I hate it14:59
EmilienMeverytime I have to ask number80 to do it and we have no way to test it14:59
Tenguwell, at least, it prevent broken CI14:59
Tenguand pinning package in spec is also a manual step after all.15:00
EmilienMbut it's not automatically tested15:00
EmilienMunless number80 has a better alternative15:00
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EmilienMbut they didn't automate these kind of things15:00
Tenguwell, if you pin the version, it can't be tested right? or am I missing something mirroring can't do?15:00
EmilienMif we pin version, we will have to manually update the distgit for each new version and it'll be tested15:01
EmilienMto me it's better than building it on our own, like Puppet, and have zero testing in place15:01
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Tenguif we mirror without pinning, we can actually have a test on the side pointing to the origin of the podman package and run a deploy with it.15:02
EmilienMagain: I want automated testing15:02
EmilienMon the side? how15:02
EmilienMshow me where and how15:02
number80let's see that durring meeting15:02
Tengua dedicated job with specific repository list for podman ?15:02
Tenguwe might "just" need to add the possibility to override podman repository in t-h-t in fact.15:03
Tenguwe already have a "state: latest" in the t-h-t podman.yaml15:03
number80#startmeeting RDO meeting - 2018-11-1415:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Nov 14 15:03:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is number80. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:03
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number80#topic roll call15:03
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number80Tengu: yes, for quick workarounds, but we still have to test against virt SIG packages as it's very close to what RHEL will have in the future15:04
dciabrino/15:04
number80#chair jpena dciabrin15:04
openstackCurrent chairs: dciabrin jpena number8015:04
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Tengu"quick workarounds"? well, I don't see that as a workaround, but more in a way to validate new podman version while sticking with a stable/valide one in a mirror.15:05
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openstackgerritJavier Peña proposed openstack/packstack master: Fix virtualization detection for Fedora jobs  https://review.openstack.org/61796915:06
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number80Tengu: hence EmilienM is right by having automated jobs to gate updates in virt SIG15:06
number80But we'll discuss that when it'll come to that point15:07
Tenguok15:07
number80#topic  heads up on pcmk2 rpms for OOOCI consumption?15:07
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number80dciabrin: https://trello.com/c/qm6LiTCV/682-stein-pacemaker15:08
dciabrinnumber80, want to do a quick heads up on rpms rebuild?15:08
dciabrinnumber80, faster than me :)15:08
number80well, pacemaker is ready, pcs and resource-agents have many dependencies to rebuild first (perl and rubygems)15:08
dciabrinack15:08
dciabrinso we had a quick chat with bandini about that15:09
number80I need to check what EL has for perl (could be shipped in a different repo), but rubygems will be rebuilt15:09
* number80 listens15:09
dciabrinthe pcs package that Emilien uses for testing podman under centos just has a oneline patch added to stock pcs in centos15:09
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dciabrinif pcs is too much of a burden, we may want to rely on a patched pcs until the next centos verison is available upstream15:10
dciabrinbandini-built pcmk  version is more involved so it still makes sense to build pcmk2.0 for centos15:10
dciabrin_but_15:10
number80one patch?15:10
number80I see many dependencies lacking in buildroot, so maybe they came from another repo, so we might have to build them though15:11
dciabrin(yes pcs with podman support == current pcs in centos 7.0 plus a one line)15:11
dciabrinthat's because last week we settle on the fact taht we could rebuild the next pcs for centos. that one relies on a truckload of rubygems dependencies and whatnot15:12
dciabrindoes that makes sense?15:12
dciabrinbasically, if porting the new pcs takes too much effort on centos, I think we could just provide a custom specfile like we do for mariadb, and add podman support to current centos-7 pcs15:14
number80I'll give it a look then15:14
dciabrinnumber80, thx AI on me to forward you bandini's patch15:14
dciabrinbandini, you want to discuss pcmk version on the host vs in containers?15:15
number80but keep in mind, that we cannot ship in repositories bundled code15:15
bandiniright. so this 'new-pcmk' repo will be only used for one podman job and we must have the same version on host and containers15:16
number80ack15:16
EmilienMone podman job?15:16
bandinilikely for containers we will inject these newfangled pcmk rpms at every run15:16
EmilienMwe plan to switch all CI on podman before end of stein milestone315:16
EmilienMand you guys know why15:16
number80ack15:16
number80I don't know anyone named why15:16
number80:)15:16
number80joke aside15:17
bandinihohum15:17
number80#action number80 look at bandini's patch for pcs15:17
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bandiniwe spoke about a special repo that will be used for podman testing15:17
number80#info TripleO considering to have all CI running against podman15:17
bandiniwe also mentioned that we don't really want these packages injected in containers just yet15:18
number80specific repo?15:18
number80right15:18
dciabrinEmilienM, how many CI jobs require HA + podman?15:18
dciabrinEmilienM, this special packaging only applies to jobs where pacemaker is used15:19
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EmilienMdciabrin: all multinode with pacemaker15:20
EmilienMscenarios, container-multinode, OVB15:20
number80ok15:20
EmilienMI can list at least 10 jobs15:20
EmilienMso yeah15:20
dciabrinok15:20
number80ok15:21
number80next topic?15:21
dciabrinEmilienM, let's discuss the details with bandini after the rdomeeting?15:22
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number80next topic then15:23
number80#topic mariadb specfile PR to fix mariadb 10.3.10 rpms15:23
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EmilienMdciabrin: cool15:23
number80I reviewed change and it is approved15:23
dciabrinnumber80, just spotted that thx very much15:24
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number80#action number80 build newer mariadb in CBS15:24
number80so I guess this is ok15:24
dciabrinI'll use the new rpm in a DNR review upstream to test deployment in CI15:24
dciabrinyep15:24
number80#topic Automate podman/virt SIG updates testin15:24
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number80#topic Automate podman/virt SIG updates testing15:24
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number80So let's continue the discussion we had before the meeting15:25
Tengu:)15:25
number80So what's the context15:25
TenguEmilienM: you go? I have CIX in 415:26
EmilienMhey15:26
EmilienMwe would like to test every time we update podman15:26
EmilienMand its deps15:27
EmilienMso i've proposed https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/q/topic:podman+status:open15:27
number80since we don't own this repo, we have to check if virt SIG has automated testing and if they'd like us to add jobs15:28
EmilienMthe idea is to 1) pin podman in tripleoclient-distgit and 2) run a tripleo job in this distgit15:28
EmilienMI'm pretty sure they don't have anything automated15:28
EmilienMeverytime I have to ping a guy and he's building an rpm by hand and pushing it15:28
EmilienMthen we all pray very hard15:28
EmilienMand usually end up crying15:28
* jpena sees a potential use case for CI in the Virt SIG15:28
number80EmilienM: then, we should try harder at getting them in the Software Factory :)15:29
number80apevec: I know you're busy ^15:29
EmilienMgood luck with that15:29
number80Yeah15:29
number80Meanwhile, we need a contigency plan15:29
number80so maybe adding a buffer repo between virt SIG and trunk.rdoproject.org15:30
jpenanumber80: maybe something like deps.yml but for external deps? We could gate there, but it would make it complicated to consume SIG repos directly15:31
number80jpena: yeah, but I have no proper solution unless virt SIG do accept our help to automate their update pipeline15:32
number80pinning version in spec file is ok for workaround but not sustainable long term15:32
EmilienMbtw I need help from CI team for https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17351/15:33
EmilienMweshay, panda|rover ^ see my comment15:33
number80Let's move that discussion to the list then15:35
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number80#action number80 move discussion to the list15:37
number80#topic open floor15:37
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number80Who wants to chair next week?15:37
jpenaI can chair15:38
number80#info jpena to chair next weej15:38
number80#undo15:39
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #info jpena to chair next weej15:39
number80#info jpena to chair next week15:39
number80Thanks :)15:39
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number80Any other topic you want to bring before we close the meeting?15:39
number80Ok, thanks for attending!15:40
number80And productive summit to the people in Berlin!15:41
panda|roverEmilienM: me and amoralej were looking at the same exact job, we are looking at the error now.15:41
number80#endmeeting15:41
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EmilienMpanda|rover: ok thank you15:50
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jpenaEmilienM: I just added a comment to https://review.rdoproject.org/r/17350 to explain why it is failing. Let's see if it works after adding the dependency to the DLRN-rpmbuild job16:01
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EmilienMjpena: what jobs should we run then?16:06
amoralejjpena, note that will fail as-is16:06
amoralejeven being nested under DLRN-rpmbuild16:06
EmilienMdciabrin, bandini: if you need to catchup on podman/pcmk let me know. Ask me questions but basically I'm waiting for a repo I can pull this thing for centos7 in the tripleo CI16:06
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amoralejEmilienM, weshay let's discuss here16:07
amoralejso16:07
jpenaamoralej: why will it fail? Won't it recognize the repo path created by DLRN-rpmbuild?16:07
amoralejnop16:07
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amoralejand it needs a changed_repos.txt file16:07
amoralejwith the info of the repos modified16:07
amoralejin the parent16:08
amoralejso, i feel i've discussed this before16:08
amoralejbut16:08
amoralejhttp://logs.rdoproject.org/51/17351/2/check/legacy-DLRN-build-tripleo/ca62268/16:08
amoralejthat's already testing that that package works with existing podman and family16:08
amoralejhttps://logs.rdoproject.org/51/17351/2/check/legacy-DLRN-build-tripleo/ca62268/job-output.txt.gz16:08
amoralejwell, not works, but installs properly16:09
amoralejif we want to add oooq jobs16:09
amoralejwhat i'm against it because of how slow is until we have standalone16:09
weshayamoralej, you are against based on TIME?16:09
amoralejwe need to modify the job to consume output of the DLRN-build job16:09
amoralejtime and reliability16:10
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amoralejmy experience is that gating with oooq has not been good16:10
amoralejtbh16:10
amoraleji guess it will improve with standalone16:10
weshayamoralej, w/ ooo or oooq16:10
amoralejwell, i just used oooq16:11
weshayamoralej, by saying oooq you are suggesting to me that the issue is soley w/ ci code16:11
weshayor are you expressing that tripleo and oooq ci together have been "not been good" ?16:11
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weshayamoralej, I understand that the standalone will make things easier, which is my I'm pushing so hard for it16:12
amoralejweshay, i'd say a mix, in the case of rdo has been specially dificult because we had to customize things16:13
weshayamoralej, k.. and where have we tried to solve these issues.. where is this customization being tracked16:13
amoralejand has been broken from upstream changes as they don't test16:13
amoralejfor example16:13
amoralejhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/617653/16:13
weshayand who are you working with?16:13
rdogerritGabriele Cerami created rdo-jobs master: TripleO: translate rdoinfo master job  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735216:13
amoralej^ that's another one16:14
weshayamoralej, that was caused because the jobs are not zuulv316:14
amoralejhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/617653/ was caused because we use rdo nodepool provider16:14
amoralejinstead of tripleo one16:15
weshayya16:15
dciabrinEmilienM, ack let us summarize where we are/what we lack/etc in a mail or something so that everyone's on the same page before we have a chat together16:15
amoralejmaybe we should move16:15
weshayamoralej, based on pabel's code16:15
weshayamoralej, shall I get the history of the file?16:15
EmilienMdciabrin: ack16:15
amoralejno, no, right16:15
amoralejbut i don't know if it's code, or by-design thing16:15
amoralejtbh, i always thought that was on purpose16:15
weshayamoralej, so my issue atm is that WE appear to just be sitting on these fundemental problems16:16
weshayletting them fester16:16
weshayamoralej, you've known about this stuff for a very long time16:16
weshaywe can reach out to other teams to help right?16:16
mjtureknumber80: DST still has me backwards... I thought the RDO meeting was in 45 minutes and was supposed to host. Thanks for handling16:17
weshaywe've moved to taiga to make that easier16:17
amoralejok, but i think we are missing the point of the problems that we are already covering16:17
amoralejand thinking that we don't have any coverage16:17
rdogerritGabriele Cerami created config master: TripleO-rdoinfo: add v3 job in test pipeline  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735316:17
amoralejwhich is wrong16:17
amoralejwe are already covering installation issues16:17
weshayamoralej, so I am interested in the coverage w/ tripleo16:17
amoralejlet me try to rephrase16:18
weshayright.. anything else is just tps16:18
amoralej"We already cover installation of packages created with distgit changes with specific TripleO configuration"16:18
amoralejwe can't gate updates in podman (or other deps) in distgits16:19
number80mjturek: Haha, it was the same for me for two weeks, but no worries :)16:19
mjturek:)16:19
amoralejthis is just for this very particular case (first thing i see it in RDO of pinning a specific version of dep in spec)16:19
weshayamoralej, understanding what we can cover or not cover for the packages going into tripleo is quite important16:19
* number80 is praying that the EU finally abolish DST forever16:19
weshaywhere is this visible?16:19
amoralejyes weshay i agree16:19
amoralejthere is a doc about16:20
amoralejlet me look for it16:20
weshayk.. thanks16:20
amoraleji have a call right now16:20
amoraleji'll be back16:20
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EmilienMamoralej, jpena : can we discuss about https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17350/ ?16:36
EmilienMwhat should we do to run tripleo job in tripleoclient-distgit (it's all I care at end of day)16:36
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number80dciabrin: mariadb is building smoothly https://cbs.centos.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=61126116:52
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EmilienMjpena: commented here https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17350/ - waiting for your inputs jpena / amoralej / number8017:03
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number80ack, I'll review that when I'm back17:04
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jpenaEmilienM: sorry, I was in a call. So we need a job that can take the repo generated by the legacy-DLRN-rpmbuild job and call oooq with all the right URLs for the repos. It would be similar to https://review.rdoproject.org/r/17352, but I think the part that creates the tripleo.yml file could be simpler17:05
jpenaonce that is done, we should change https://review.rdoproject.org/r/17350 to use that instead of legacy-rdoinfo-tripleo-master-testing-centos-7-multinode-1ctlr-featureset016, and add the "dependencies: - legacy-DLRN-rpmbuild" lines to ensure it is executed once the package is built17:06
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jpenawith that, we could use the job to gate on distgit changes. That said, it won't protect us from SIG repo changes, unless we do the pinning thing on specs (which creates another round of issues on its own)17:08
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rdogerritrdo-trunk created rdoinfo master: CBS tags sync with uc for stein-candidate  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735417:14
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EmilienMjpena: so what's the plan :)17:14
EmilienMI'm open to any suggestion17:14
EmilienMbut we have to find a short term solution for podman17:14
EmilienMand also puppet and many other ungated deps17:15
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jpenaEmilienM: first, we need someone with enough knowledge of the oooq jobs to create the new job17:15
jpenaI won't say names, but it looks like panda|rover created https://review.rdoproject.org/r/17352 :P17:16
jpenaonce the job is ready, anyone can take care of the rest (I can fix 17350 if needed)17:16
EmilienMnice17:17
jpenaEmilienM: for puppet, we have a job testing it (it's part of deps.yml)17:17
EmilienMhttps://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17352 is for standalone but we could do the same for another job17:17
EmilienMTengu: how far are we to get standalone using podman?17:18
EmilienMI think we are waiting for some THT patches to land17:19
TenguEmilienM: yeah, there are a couple of patches.17:19
Tenguwait, I think I have something on trello.17:19
EmilienMTengu: please rebase 613975 on top of 61793717:19
Tenguhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:standalone/podman17:19
EmilienMTengu: nevermind17:19
EmilienMhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/613975/ needs a rebase though17:20
EmilienMTengu: can you do it^ ?17:20
Tenguyep17:21
Tenguwait17:21
* Tengu doing 10'000 tasks in //17:22
Tenguthat will end badly.17:22
panda|roverjpena: don't forget https://review.rdoproject.org/api/1735317:22
TenguEmilienM: there's also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615956/ - it's needed since we don't have libvirt on the host anymore.17:22
panda|roverstill WIP17:22
jpenapanda|rover: sure, that's the part we would do in 1735017:22
Tenguok, so I need to... hm. ok.17:23
EmilienMTengu: I know, it's in gate.17:23
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EmilienMpanda|rover: can you please do it for fs010 maybe17:24
Tenguerf17:24
Tenguthe rebase is nasty...17:24
EmilienMTengu: I can do it17:24
panda|roverEmilienM: instead of standalone ?17:24
TenguEmilienM: checking what's your patch about.17:24
EmilienMpanda|rover: no, beside17:24
EmilienMTengu: which patch17:25
EmilienMTengu: I rebased it17:26
TenguEmilienM: against your patch, or against master?17:26
EmilienMmaster17:26
Tenguah.17:26
EmilienMit's done17:26
Tenguwas trying to find the right version against you :).17:26
Tenguso nothing more to do. ok17:26
EmilienMjpena, panda|rover: so once we have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613975 - we can use the new job to gate on tripleoclient-distgit17:26
panda|roverEmilienM: using fs010 is not the main issue, unfortunately we are unable to get rdoinfo job to run selective parts of the tripleo-ci workflow until we merge  https://review.openstack.org/60728817:27
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rdogerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleoclient-distgit rpm-master: Pin podman to 0.11.1-2.gita4adfe5.el7  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/1735117:30
EmilienMjpena: ok so in meantime I propose we just pin podman to secure us17:30
EmilienMpanda|rover: do you have a link/task on where you track this work?17:31
EmilienMpanda|rover: I'm updating the CIX card about podman and put details for preventive action items17:31
panda|roverEmilienM: https://tree.taiga.io/project/tripleo-ci-board/us/10917:32
EmilienMpanda|rover: thx17:33
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EmilienMpanda|rover, weshay : is vexxhost job ready to be rechecked yet?17:42
weshayEmilienM, I mean you can17:43
weshayEmilienM, but there are a bunch of changes that need to merge17:44
weshayfor that to work17:44
EmilienMweshay: which are?17:44
weshaytell you later.. too busy17:44
EmilienMno worries17:44
EmilienMit can wait17:45
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amoralejweshay, EmilienM i did my best to clarify existing coverage, gaps and known issues17:50
amoralejhttps://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/explaining-CI-coverage-in-RDO17:50
weshayamoralej, so here's my litmus test.. if I went and asked Juan about this.. I wonder what he could tell me17:51
weshayamoralej, I don't think we can assume if there was an etherpad or email sent that communication has happened17:51
weshayamoralej, I have to say this to a lot of people17:52
weshaynot picking on amoralej17:52
weshayis that fair?17:52
amoralejno, no, i get it17:52
amoraleji'm just thinking :)17:52
amoralejmy concern is that, it seems that adding a job to the distgit will fix everything17:53
amoralejand nop17:53
amoralejit will not17:53
amoralejin fact, if we want to test podman update, that's not the way17:54
weshayamoralej, ya..  I have to read through this carefully17:54
weshayamoralej, couldn't we have a queue of new rpms in a test repo that one promotion job hits17:54
amoralejrunning oooq on distgits improves coverage? yes17:54
weshayor all the promotion jobs hit17:54
weshayand packages are brought into the system via promotions17:54
amoralejyou mean deps?17:55
amoralejor openstack packages?17:55
amoralejthat's promotion pipeline, right?17:55
amoralejwe already have jobs to promote deps17:55
amoralejoooq jobs17:55
weshaydeps and baseos packages17:55
weshayI guess17:55
amoralejwe already do for RDO controlled deps17:55
amoralejbut not for others17:55
amoralejas ceph, podman, etc...17:56
amoralejthat's Cross-SIG gating17:56
weshaypodman is coming from centos17:56
weshayya17:56
weshayceph17:56
amoralejwhich does not exist17:56
weshayya17:56
amoraleji've added to the doc17:56
weshaythis is a new doc?17:56
amoralejyes, i did this one to try to be as clear as possible17:56
weshayk k17:57
amoralejfor our deps, we already have oooq jobs17:57
weshayamoralej, right.. but they have been not 100% lately right17:57
weshaydue to the rdo tenant naming bug17:57
amoralejyes17:57
weshaywe talked about earlier17:57
amoralejbut, in fact it was working up to some days17:57
amoralejsee  https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/14960/17:58
weshayamoralej, so that is the kind of issue.. imho should be raised as a bug.. and brought to the cix calls17:58
amoralejwe catched issue with ansible17:58
weshayso we can ensure it is working well17:58
weshayaye17:58
weshaythat's god17:58
weshaygod and good17:58
weshaymaybe I need to cross train ruck/rovers to watch these jobs too17:58
weshayget it on sova17:58
weshayraise the visibility17:59
weshayso we can all help17:59
weshayand know17:59
amoralejmaybe we could make it voting17:59
amoralejcurrently it's not17:59
weshayya17:59
weshayamoralej, I was holding off for the standalone17:59
amoralejbut then, let's fix it first17:59
amoralejyeah17:59
amoraleji agree17:59
weshayso at least that is happening now17:59
weshayamoralej, panda|rover|off is helping you with that right?17:59
amoralejyes17:59
weshayok good18:00
amoraleji'm helping him :)18:00
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amoralejbut iiuc some more change is needed in the common role18:00
weshayheh.. ok.. so let's just use these hiccups as a good reason to come back to these issues you've highlighted in the etherpad and get both teams thinking and working towards something better18:00
amoralejto pass release parameter18:00
weshayk..18:01
weshaystein,rocky etc?18:01
amoralejif you prefer me to upload as a doc to www.rdoproject.org, no problem18:01
amoralejthat's one of the gaps18:01
weshayamoralej, let's use taiga :)18:01
weshaycreate an epic18:01
amoralejok18:01
amoraleji'll ask18:01
weshaypackage gating improvements18:01
weshayand we can get folks from both teams designing and breaking out user stories18:02
amoraleji already have trello cards for some of those18:02
weshayk..18:02
weshayamoralej, let's sync up tomorrow it's probably late for you..18:02
weshayamoralej, I have to go work w/ mwhahaha before he kills a small animal18:03
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amoralejsure, no problem18:04
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amoralejchandankumar, so currently, is tripleoclient working fine without https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17351/?18:10
amoraleji'm a bit lost18:10
chandankumaramoralej, check my comments on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1803232/comments/1218:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1803232 in tripleo "podman 0.11.1 rpm conflicts with docker" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Emilien Macchi (emilienm)18:10
chandankumaramoralej, either we need to remove this step https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/services/podman.yaml#L59 from tht18:11
chandankumarotherwise it will fail18:11
amoralejbut18:11
amoralejwithout that pin18:11
amoralejright now18:11
amoralejis it working?18:11
amoraleji'm not clear if it's still blocked18:11
chandankumaramoralej, yes it is working as tengu confirmed it18:12
amoralejok18:12
chandankumaramoralej, we need a robust solution till now we get pagure + zuul integration in place on which apevec and number80 is working on that18:12
amoralejif we need to pin, the best option is treat it as a dependency in rdoinfo.yml18:15
amoralejsorry18:15
amoralejdeps.yml18:15
amoraleji just left a comment18:15
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chandankumaramoralej, yes18:24
chandankumaramoralej, in deps.yaml it will be good but there is a problem18:24
chandankumaramoralej, if we unpin higher version we need to manually remove from a repo as happen yesterday dealing with puppet5 stuff18:25
apevecwe can't pull everything into deps18:25
amoralejyes apevec i know18:25
amoralejbut pinning in spec...18:25
amoralejchandankumar, yes, but changes in deps.yml are gated18:26
apevecyeah, that doesn't work, from chandankumar's comment in LP18:26
apevecchandankumar, which repo is quickstart-centos-virt7-container-testing - on buildlogs?18:26
amoraleji'm not sure how many packages do we need18:26
chandankumarapevec, amoralej I am not sure gating against deps.yaml is perfect18:26
amoralejfrom virt-common18:26
amoralejchandankumar, no gating is perfect :)18:26
amoralejbut the one for puppet failed18:26
amoralej:)18:26
amoralejit's just that is not voting18:26
amoralejand, tbh, failed with a different issue because job is broken18:27
amoralejapevec, yes, buildlogs i think18:27
amoralejapevec, solution is cross-SIG gating https://review.rdoproject.org/etherpad/p/explaining-CI-coverage-in-RDO :)18:28
chandankumaramoralej, yes after pinning podman, the tht changes tries to update the podman, one thing we can do is to improve this step https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/puppet/services/podman.yaml#L59 if we pin or remove something relates to podman18:28
apevecyeah for gating deps we'd need 100% rock solid job18:28
apevece.g. no flaky test18:28
* chandankumar needs to work on irc server to bring it back, lots of exciting stuff coming to learn18:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/packstack master: Fix virtualization detection for Fedora jobs  https://review.openstack.org/61796920:10
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