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openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Replace unicode() with six.text_type() https://review.openstack.org/56899 | 10:41 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/savanna: Fix style errors and upgrade hacking https://review.openstack.org/56405 | 14:58 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/savanna: Remove check already released in hacking 0.8.0 https://review.openstack.org/56568 | 14:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Hacking contains all needed requirements https://review.openstack.org/56531 | 15:27 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/savanna: Hacking contains all needed requirements https://review.openstack.org/56531 | 15:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Jonathan Maron proposed a change to openstack/savanna: Enable EDP with HDP plugin https://review.openstack.org/56274 | 19:53 |
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dc | Is this the proper place to discuss Savanna's swift integration with hadoop? | 19:56 |
crobertsrh | dc: Yes, this would be a fine place. | 19:57 |
dc | crobertsrh: thank you. With the whole swift & hadoop integration, was swift meant to replace hdfs or work along side it? | 19:58 |
crobertsrh | I think it's meant to work alongside it, but I'm far from the definitive expert on that. Hopefully, someone else can chime in here. | 20:00 |
mattf | i wonder if we can get stevel over here too | 20:00 |
mattf | it's kinda late in the day for him though | 20:00 |
mattf | dc, the idea is to use swift as the source of the MR input and destination for the MR output | 20:01 |
mattf | dc, it's similar functionality to what you'll find in AWS's EC2 + S3 integration | 20:01 |
dc | mattf: All, please excuse my ignorance as this is new to me. If Swift and Hadoop are used together, what would be a use case of when an object would be stored in swift as compared to the hdfs? | 20:03 |
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dc_ | sorry..I lost my connection to the cat so I will repost my question | 20:05 |
mattf | dc_, still there? | 20:05 |
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mattf | we're mostly providing the tools to build up interesting uses cases. we've currently provided an EMR-like workflow that allows you to store input&output in swift | 20:06 |
dc_ | mattf: Please pardon my ignorance...if Swift and hdfs are to be used together, what is the use case of when to store an object in Swift instead of the hdfs and vice versa? | 20:06 |
mattf | the next version should support in/out in hdfs | 20:06 |
mattf | the main case i see perssuring this is intermediate data in hdfs. i.e. MR-job0 -> MR-job1 etc where the input to job0 comes from swift and the output on job1 may go to swift. | 20:07 |
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mattf | dc_, ^^ | 20:09 |
dc_ | mattf: It took me some time but I think I got my hadoop and swift integrated. I ran the command on my hadoop single node cluster : hadoop distcp hdfs://localhost:53410/app/hadoop/tmp/core-site.xml swift://opencloudservices.swift/temp | 20:09 |
dc_ | and I saw the core-site.xml on my swift cluster | 20:10 |
mattf | that's promising. are you having issues w/ swift via edp? | 20:10 |
dc_ | mattf: edp? | 20:11 |
dc_ | mattf: endpoint? | 20:11 |
mattf | "elastic data processing" it's the feature we're we implemented elastic mapreduce-like functionality | 20:11 |
mattf | dc_, what are you trying to do? | 20:11 |
dc_ | mattf: I just was trying to see if I could get an object copied from hdfs into the swift cluster. | 20:12 |
mattf | glad it worked then! | 20:13 |
dc_ | mattf: I'm hoping that once the functionality is there that people can program around placing objects in swift. I hope that makes sense. I'm just a sysadmin :( | 20:13 |
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dc_ | mattf: If you don't mind me asking this...what are the benefits of using swift instead of hdfs? Is it cheaper? | 20:14 |
mattf | since the swift plugin uses the standard distributedfilesystem api in hadoop, it should be transparent to folks. they just have to use the correct uri. | 20:14 |
mattf | dc_, if you have a persistent cluster w/ hdfs the benefit may be small for you. you may store relatively static datasets in swift for sharing across multiple hadoop clusters | 20:15 |
dc_ | mattf: what do you mean exactly by "persistent cluster with hdfs"? | 20:17 |
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mattf | dc_, say you start a cluster w/ savanna and let multiple people run jobs on it. alternatively, and which is typical now, you have a cluster started for each job you want to run. | 20:18 |
dc_ | mattf: Thanks alot..Have you worked on the Savanna project? | 20:19 |
mattf | dc_, i'm definitely helping out here, yes | 20:20 |
dc_ | mattf: I can tell..You definitely know your stuff. | 20:21 |
dc_ | Thanks again | 20:21 |
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mattf | dc_, my pleasure. lots of folks here to help. | 20:22 |
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