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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/senlin: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/202292 | 00:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yanyan Hu proposed stackforge/senlin: Using openstacksdk function call in keystone_v3 driver https://review.openstack.org/201945 | 01:36 |
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| Qiming | morning | 01:55 |
| Yanyanhu | morning | 01:56 |
| Yanyanhu | late today :) | 01:56 |
| Qiming | yip, slept so well ... | 01:57 |
| Yanyanhu | sigh, I'm very sleepy today, only slept about 5 hours yesterday | 01:57 |
| Yanyanhu | in such as conmfortable day.... what a pitty... | 01:58 |
| Qiming | :) I can buy you some coffee | 01:58 |
| Yanyanhu | thanks... after start coding, will not sleepy anymore ;) | 01:58 |
| lixinhui_ | :-) | 01:59 |
| Qiming | lixinhui_, your two patches | 02:03 |
| Qiming | they are supposed to be two patch sets of the same thing | 02:04 |
| Qiming | can we abandon this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201935/ | 02:05 |
| Qiming | and propose a patch set 2 for this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201930/ ? | 02:05 |
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| Yanyanhu | hi, Qiming, about the patch of adding user/domain/project properties for policy object, I think it's ok. Just one question, for the case of cluster_policy_attach action, whose owner informatoin we should use to build the credential params | 02:08 |
| Yanyanhu | the cluster or policy? | 02:08 |
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| Qiming | I think the cluster is it | 02:09 |
| Yanyanhu | ok, me too | 02:09 |
| Qiming | actually they should be the same thing | 02:09 |
| Yanyanhu | actually, this is a comon questoin, not only for this patch | 02:09 |
| Yanyanhu | right | 02:09 |
| Qiming | need to add a check whether a cluster and a policy are owned by the same user | 02:10 |
| Yanyanhu | but in come cases where different users create the cluster and policy respectively | 02:10 |
| Yanyanhu | right | 02:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/senlin: Using openstacksdk function call in keystone_v3 driver https://review.openstack.org/201945 | 02:10 |
| Yanyanhu | understand | 02:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/senlin: Remove initilization of auth and session attrs in some drivers https://review.openstack.org/201900 | 02:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/senlin: Add user/project/domain to policy objects https://review.openstack.org/202037 | 02:18 |
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| Qiming | sigh, this is shit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197161/ | 02:44 |
| Yanyanhu | alarm is moved to another project? | 02:45 |
| Qiming | yes | 02:46 |
| Qiming | has anyone heard of that? | 02:46 |
| Yanyanhu | if the interface is not backward compatible, it's terrible | 02:46 |
| Yanyanhu | no... | 02:47 |
| Qiming | any discussion on the deprecation of the alarm support? | 02:47 |
| Qiming | it is removing the alarm support "cleanly" from ceilometer | 02:47 |
| Yanyanhu | ... | 02:47 |
| Yanyanhu | it's insane... | 02:48 |
| Yanyanhu | a big problem for those users who rely on ceilometer to prvoide alarm trigger support | 02:49 |
| lixinhui_ | what will senlin depend for alarm functions | 02:51 |
| Qiming | most policies are supposed to be triggered from things like ceilometer alarms | 02:52 |
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| lixinhui_ | senlin engine can not work with oslo.utils 1.9.0? | 04:42 |
| lixinhui_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/379546/ | 04:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Julio Ruano proposed stackforge/senlin: Add test case for Heat Stack Profile https://review.openstack.org/202382 | 04:47 |
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| Yanyanhu | hi, lixinhui_, the engine works well with 1.9.0 oslo.utils in my local env | 05:35 |
| Qiming | I'm suffering from some problems regarding the pbr version change | 05:36 |
| Qiming | solving it by upgrading packages that are not pbr 1.3.0 friendly | 05:37 |
| Qiming | network is really bad: 1.8MB 2.7kB/s eta 0:17:08 | 05:40 |
| Yanyanhu | em... | 05:40 |
| lixinhui_ | seems not related to my past 379546 | 05:40 |
| Qiming | it is not the same, but similar | 05:49 |
| Qiming | all caused by the recent changes to package version requirements | 05:49 |
| Qiming | I'm doing quite some package upgrades in hope the senlin-engine can be launched again | 05:57 |
| Yanyanhu | with pbr version == 1.3.0? | 05:58 |
| Qiming | yes | 05:58 |
| Qiming | quite some packages have to be upgraded | 05:58 |
| Yanyanhu | ...so will this pbr version conflict problem be resolved completely, seems it influences many projects | 05:59 |
| Qiming | oslo.middleware, python-heatclient, sqlalchemy-migrate, netaddr, WebOb, oslo.config, oslo.i18n ... | 05:59 |
| Yanyanhu | ... I'm still using old version pbr(0.11) to make engine work | 06:00 |
| Qiming | I'm trying things new, ;) | 06:00 |
| Yanyanhu | ok | 06:00 |
| Qiming | don't know whatelse is broken now | 06:00 |
| Qiming | we'll see | 06:00 |
| Qiming | okay, solved | 06:02 |
| Qiming | engine starts fine now | 06:02 |
| Qiming | so does api | 06:02 |
| lixinhui_ | ha | 06:02 |
| lixinhui_ | let me know your best practice | 06:02 |
| lixinhui_ | btw, my engine still now work with pbr==0.11 | 06:02 |
| lixinhui_ | but oslo.utils an six already updated | 06:03 |
| Qiming | the good thing about the requirements.txt file is it tells you the lowest version you will need for each package | 06:03 |
| Qiming | but sometimes, a package update may influence almost all projects | 06:03 |
| Qiming | one of the examples was the migration from oslo.xxx to oslo_xxx namespace | 06:04 |
| Qiming | it caused a lot of pain across projects | 06:04 |
| Qiming | the bad thing about the requirements.txt file is you never know which version works best for you | 06:04 |
| Qiming | this is especially true when you are running some gate jobs | 06:05 |
| Qiming | the gate is always using some latest packages | 06:05 |
| Qiming | the best practices? | 06:05 |
| Qiming | reinstall devstack each time some package version is changed | 06:05 |
| Qiming | that is guaranteed to work, ;) | 06:06 |
| Qiming | that will be a huge pain, but it is how packages are tested, :( | 06:07 |
| Zhenqi | Hi Qiming | 06:28 |
| Qiming | yes | 06:28 |
| Zhenqi | I need to know how can I run a subset of tests using 'tox'? | 06:28 |
| Zhenqi | just a example | 06:29 |
| Qiming | well | 06:31 |
| Qiming | I will do this | 06:31 |
| Qiming | python -m testtools.run senlin.tests.test_cluster | 06:31 |
| Yanyanhu | hi, Qiming, did you know this project? 'Group based policy' https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GroupBasedPolicy | 06:51 |
| Qiming | yes | 07:00 |
| Qiming | it is neutron ? | 07:00 |
| Yanyanhu | yes, it's now in neutron's I think | 07:01 |
| Yanyanhu | seems a policy based network management framework | 07:01 |
| Yanyanhu | just looked around and saw it :) | 07:01 |
| Yanyanhu | I saw the 'policy' keyword | 07:02 |
| Qiming | yes | 07:02 |
| Qiming | it is mainly about packet forwarding rules I think | 07:03 |
| Yanyanhu | yes, guess so | 07:03 |
| Qiming | otter is more relevant to us, I think: https://github.com/rackerlabs/otter/tree/master | 07:06 |
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| Yanyanhu | em, recalled you mentioned it before | 07:07 |
| Tiancheng | @lixinhui, hello~~ | 07:07 |
| Yanyanhu | will spend some time on it | 07:07 |
| Qiming | don't need an @ here, ;) | 07:08 |
| Tiancheng | or say, @ does not make any difference... | 07:08 |
| Yanyanhu | hello, Tiancheng | 07:08 |
| Yanyanhu | ;o | 07:08 |
| lixinhui_ | hello, tiancheng | 07:08 |
| lixinhui_ | qiming/yanyan, btw, is this correct? RequirementParseError: Expected version spec in qpid-python;python_version=='2.7' at ;python_version=='2.7' | 07:09 |
| lixinhui_ | in requirement.txt | 07:09 |
| Qiming | that is a pbr error | 07:09 |
| Qiming | parsing that line, actually any line containing a environment constraint, requires pbr>1.3.0 | 07:10 |
| lixinhui_ | so, I need to upgrade it to 1.3.0? | 07:10 |
| Qiming | and pip 7.1.0 | 07:10 |
| Yanyanhu | yes | 07:10 |
| Yanyanhu | so you may want to update you virtualenv package | 07:11 |
| Qiming | pip 7.1.0 requires virtualenv >= 13.1.0 | 07:11 |
| Qiming | this wasn't mentioned anywhere I think, but "lifeless" told me so yesterday | 07:11 |
| Qiming | so ... | 07:11 |
| Qiming | you will do this: | 07:11 |
| Qiming | sudo pip install --upgrade pip <-- install pip 7.1.0 | 07:12 |
| Qiming | sudo pip install virtualenv==13.1.0 | 07:12 |
| Qiming | sudo pip install pbr==1.3.0 | 07:12 |
| Qiming | then try the things you are working on | 07:12 |
| lixinhui_ | okay let me try | 07:13 |
| Qiming | Yanyanhu, what are we storing in the webhook.credential field? | 07:14 |
| Qiming | auth_url and password? | 07:14 |
| Yanyanhu | Qiming, yes, and also user_id | 07:15 |
| Yanyanhu | 'user' actually | 07:15 |
| Yanyanhu | or if user_name is provided, domain/project is also supposed to be there | 07:15 |
| Qiming | webhook.user is a duplication? | 07:15 |
| Yanyanhu | no, the user store in credential is supposed provided explicitly/implicitly when webhook is created | 07:16 |
| Yanyanhu | so it could be the same as the webhook.user | 07:16 |
| Yanyanhu | and maybe not in some cases | 07:16 |
| Yanyanhu | e.g. user A | 07:16 |
| Yanyanhu | create a webhook and supply a credential of user B | 07:17 |
| Yanyanhu | user info in credential will be used to do the action when webhook is triggered | 07:17 |
| Qiming | the URI to trigger a webhook will be something like this: | 07:30 |
| Qiming | http://<host>:8778/<tenant_id>/v1/webhooks/<webhook_id>/trigger?key=<keystring>&<param1>=<value1> | 07:31 |
| Qiming | ? | 07:31 |
| Yanyanhu | Qiming, actually param field does not exist there | 07:32 |
| Yanyanhu | let me have a check | 07:33 |
| Yanyanhu | em, I was wrong | 07:34 |
| Yanyanhu | I think the operation of attaching params to the url is ommited in current implementation of Webhook.generate_url | 07:36 |
| Qiming | designed, but not implemented | 07:36 |
| Yanyanhu | yes | 07:36 |
| Qiming | ok | 07:36 |
| lixinhui_ | have you guys met "cannot import thin" when $senlin XX | 08:06 |
| Qiming | no | 08:06 |
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| Qiming | I did something stupid ... | 08:15 |
| Qiming | I removed all packages under /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ | 08:16 |
| Yanyanhu | ... | 08:16 |
| Yanyanhu | how... using rm -rf... | 08:17 |
| Qiming | then I cannot do yum | 08:17 |
| Qiming | because yum is written in Python | 08:17 |
| Yanyanhu | yes... | 08:17 |
| Yanyanhu | you may need to install one from rpm | 08:18 |
| Qiming | the only thing I can do: download individual rpm packages required, and install them using rpm -ivh --force ... | 08:18 |
| Yanyanhu | seem so... | 08:18 |
| Yanyanhu | or you can install yum and pip and run stack.sh? | 08:18 |
| Yanyanhu | maybe all dependecies will be reinstalled | 08:19 |
| Qiming | you know what, I am more stupid than that | 08:19 |
| Qiming | no ... cannot do that | 08:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Yanyan Hu proposed stackforge/senlin: Test case for neutron_v2 driver(1) https://review.openstack.org/202433 | 08:19 |
| Qiming | there are things called python-urlgrabber | 08:20 |
| Qiming | python-iniparser ... | 08:20 |
| Qiming | python-dateutils .... | 08:20 |
| Qiming | all rpm packages | 08:20 |
| Yanyanhu | ... | 08:21 |
| Qiming | I'm using VirtualBox | 08:22 |
| Qiming | why didn't I start from a saved RHEL70 image? | 08:22 |
| Yanyanhu | oh, not your physical server | 08:22 |
| Qiming | yes | 08:23 |
| Qiming | I was copying files one by one .... sigh | 08:23 |
| Yanyanhu | yes, if it's a VM, you can reinstall the entire env I guess :) | 08:23 |
| Qiming | I have snapshots ... | 08:23 |
| Yanyanhu | nice | 08:23 |
| Qiming | I need some cigar ... something is wrong in my head ... | 08:23 |
| Yanyanhu | take a break | 08:24 |
| Yanyanhu | maybe you can ask Tiancheng together ;p | 08:24 |
| Tiancheng | someone mentioned my name? | 08:28 |
| Tiancheng | I need VirtualBox! | 08:29 |
| Tiancheng | tried to download twice while Symentec removed the downloaded file as soon as the download completed1 | 08:29 |
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| Qiming | hoho | 08:40 |
| Qiming | you can buy one | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed stackforge/python-senlinclient: Remove thin methods which is not used https://review.openstack.org/202450 | 09:11 |
| Qiming | Yanyanhu, please review ^ | 09:12 |
| Qiming | this is causing problems in the client side | 09:12 |
| Yanyanhu | Qiming, ok | 09:14 |
| Yanyanhu | have you solved the network problem :) | 09:15 |
| Qiming | no | 09:16 |
| Qiming | tried bing .... | 09:16 |
| Qiming | not useful at all | 09:16 |
| Yanyanhu | ... | 09:16 |
| Qiming | the only thing I saw is that a million questions asked for the same problem | 09:17 |
| Qiming | there are links to redhat solutions | 09:17 |
| Yanyanhu | em, in this situation, google is the only useful way... | 09:17 |
| Qiming | and redhat demands for a subscription to read the answer | 09:17 |
| Qiming | okay solved | 09:19 |
| Qiming | the ifcfg-xxx file contains a HWADDR field, it doesnt match the MAC address ... | 09:19 |
| Yanyanhu | oh | 09:20 |
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| Yanyanhu | hi, Qiming, this patch resloved the problem about 'thin' lixinhui met https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202450/1 | 09:24 |
| Yanyanhu | I think this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200822/1 has not been included in sdk's 0.4.1 release? | 09:25 |
| Tiancheng | one question about Keystone trust: assuming I am a user of Openstack, can i delegate my privilages of manipulating my VMs to some other users? | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/python-senlinclient: Remove thin methods which is not used https://review.openstack.org/202450 | 09:32 |
| Yanyanhu | hi, Tiancheng, you can I think | 09:35 |
| Tiancheng | is it required that the two users belongs to the same tenant? | 09:36 |
| Yanyanhu | no, just need to ensure the project scope in trust is a subnet of the project scope of your own user | 09:37 |
| Yanyanhu | the subnet or the same scope | 09:37 |
| Yanyanhu | otherwise, the trust can't be created successfully | 09:37 |
| Yanyanhu | oh, sorry | 09:38 |
| Yanyanhu | this is for role | 09:38 |
| Yanyanhu | not for project | 09:38 |
| Yanyanhu | Tiancheng, you can specify a project when creating a trust, but it's optional | 09:43 |
| Tiancheng | so for short, a "trust" includes: (1) the trusted user and (2) a "scope"? | 09:44 |
| Yanyanhu | it is usually used with 'roles' parameter together to specify the scope of trust | 09:44 |
| Tiancheng | what is a role? | 09:45 |
| Yanyanhu | a user can have one or multiple roles in a single or several different projects | 09:45 |
| Yanyanhu | it is used to define what kind of action a user can do, and the constraints examination is usually done by policy check | 09:46 |
| Yanyanhu | and role is limited in scope of a single project | 09:48 |
| Yanyanhu | e.g. user A can have 'admin' role in project_1 and have 'member' role in project_2 | 09:48 |
| Yanyanhu | so user can define the scope of a trust by specify the 'project_id' and 'roles' parameters. If so, the trustee will only be delegated the authorization in specified project with specified roles of the trustor | 09:54 |
| Yanyanhu | not sure how keystone implemented this :) | 09:54 |
| Yanyanhu | a doc about trust design in keystone v3 API https://github.com/openstack-attic/identity-api/blob/master/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3-os-trust-ext.md | 09:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/senlin: Getting Started Doc (6) https://review.openstack.org/201009 | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed stackforge/senlin: Revise devstack README.rst with new git repo https://review.openstack.org/202522 | 12:08 |
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| Qiming | Tiancheng, there? | 13:29 |
| Tiancheng | yes | 13:29 |
| Tiancheng | for now | 13:29 |
| Qiming | POST http:/sdfaf.asdfa/res?abc=def&efg=123 | 13:29 |
| Tiancheng | you caught me just in time -- I might go offline in 5 mins otherwise | 13:30 |
| Qiming | how this looks to you? | 13:30 |
| Tiancheng | no idea what it is | 13:30 |
| Qiming | query strings usually used for GET | 13:30 |
| Tiancheng | POST supposes to create a new resource | 13:30 |
| Tiancheng | right. query changes nothing and it should use GET | 13:31 |
| Qiming | is it okay to use them for POST? | 13:31 |
| Qiming | .... | 13:31 |
| Qiming | keep thinking | 13:31 |
| Qiming | you can go now | 13:31 |
| Tiancheng | well. if you just use it in that way, nobody will put you into prison. but from the API perspective, people will get confused | 13:31 |
| Tiancheng | any special reason to use POST, not GET for a query? | 13:32 |
| Qiming | to trigger an action | 13:35 |
| Tiancheng | to trigger an action, it is not a query... | 13:41 |
| Tiancheng | by "trigger an action", you will create a new "action" instance? or there is an "action" and you just kick its ass? | 13:42 |
| Tiancheng | if the first case, you should use POST; if the second, you should use PUT | 13:42 |
| Qiming | a new action | 13:42 |
| Tiancheng | then POST is good | 13:42 |
| Qiming | no ... | 13:42 |
| Tiancheng | but ... | 13:43 |
| Qiming | the url looks like this: http://{host:port}/v1/{tenant_id}/webhooks/{webhook_id}/trigger?key=$KEY | 13:43 |
| Tiancheng | what is "trigger"? | 13:43 |
| Qiming | a verb | 13:43 |
| Tiancheng | there should not be a "verb" -- the HTTP has already had verb | 13:44 |
| Qiming | HTTP is too naive | 13:44 |
| Qiming | you cannot express everything as just create/delete/update/list | 13:44 |
| Tiancheng | you can :) | 13:45 |
| Qiming | I want to trigger a webhook, exposed at URI ..../webhooks/{webhook_id} | 13:45 |
| Tiancheng | why not POST http://{host:port}/v1/{tenant_id}/webhooks/{webhook_id}/actions | 13:45 |
| Qiming | what would you suggest? | 13:45 |
| Qiming | no, actions are internal concepts | 13:46 |
| Tiancheng | then create a new actio | 13:46 |
| Tiancheng | so... what is webhook? | 13:46 |
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| Qiming | a webhook is just an abstraction of a tuple (user, object, action, params) | 13:47 |
| Qiming | it is just an URL | 13:47 |
| Tiancheng | no | 13:47 |
| Tiancheng | each URL should represent a resource or a collection of resources | 13:47 |
| Tiancheng | you are not properly defining the resource model | 13:48 |
| Qiming | that is why I was saying that it is too naive | 13:48 |
| Qiming | I know it is a problem, but if you conform strictly to the convention | 13:48 |
| Qiming | you will need something like: .../actions/ | 13:49 |
| Qiming | you post things there in a json body | 13:49 |
| Tiancheng | normally.. I do this in the way that I pacakge a lot of things in the JSON body | 13:50 |
| Tiancheng | and, I use PUT | 13:50 |
| Tiancheng | another rest anti-pattern :P | 13:51 |
| Qiming | see this: http://192.168.3.51:8000/v1/signal/arn%3Aopenstack%3Aheat%3A%3Abf90981532444f91b70d3f58e9fd1b3d%3Astacks%2Fgnocchi2%2Fd65c891b-4543-4d1e-aa39-4d446ce4a3e8%2Fresources%2Fweb_server_scaleup_policy?Timestamp=2015-04-23T14%3A50%3A52Z&SignatureMethod=HmacSHA256&AWSAccessKeyId=2c7195e4a64140719131680bf8a96d4b&SignatureVersion=2&Signature=hbQCSYsjd2f9%2FeH1mKZpszI4ec20Ot0mVLBtCbkLpDU%3D | 13:52 |
| Qiming | this is a webhook in Heat, mimicing how Amazon does webhook | 13:53 |
| Tiancheng | see... you will have no idea what this URL means... | 13:53 |
| Qiming | signal is a "resource" | 13:53 |
| Qiming | you post an ARN/URN to that resource | 13:54 |
| Qiming | the object encoded in the ARN/URN will be signaled | 13:54 |
| Qiming | signal looks like a verb to me | 13:54 |
| Tiancheng | signal can be a resource | 13:55 |
| Tiancheng | you create a new signal and once it is created, it sends itself to someone | 13:55 |
| Qiming | ARN is a resource name, encoding a thing to be signaled, ;) | 13:55 |
| Tiancheng | anyway, no matter how ideal you are at the beginning, you can end up with some argly implementation -- that is the reality | 13:57 |
| Qiming | I was just trying to be not soooo anti-pattern | 13:58 |
| Qiming | so, back to the webhook triggering design | 14:00 |
| Tiancheng | headache... and 被老外放鸽子.. go to bed now | 14:01 |
| Qiming | POST http://{host:port}/v1/{tenant_id}/webhooks/{webhook_id}/actions | 14:01 |
| Tiancheng | talk to you tomorrow | 14:01 |
| Qiming | this is what you would suggest | 14:01 |
| Qiming | even the only "action" would be "trigger" | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed stackforge/senlin: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/202709 | 17:08 |
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