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| Qiming | morning | 00:59 |
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| Qiming | we have got three sessions accepted to the summit | 00:59 |
| xuhaiwei | Senlin introduction, container cluster and ? | 01:05 |
| xuhaiwei | Heat? | 01:05 |
| Qiming | autoscaling | 01:07 |
| Qiming | lixinhui is working on a poc doing a very comprehensive autoscaling solution | 01:07 |
| Qiming | it is senlin + lbaasv2 | 01:07 |
| xuhaiwei | great | 01:08 |
| Qiming | a cluster can be built with load-balancer, auto-scaler, high-availabiity guarantee very easily | 01:08 |
| Qiming | it is gonna be a great demo showing the potential of doing autoscaling with Senlin | 01:09 |
| xuhaiwei | it is not covered by general Senlin introduction? | 01:10 |
| Qiming | no, it is not | 01:11 |
| Qiming | the overview is more about the project's scope, its overall architecture, its status and its next steps | 01:12 |
| Qiming | just like the one I gave during our mid-cycle meetup | 01:12 |
| Qiming | lixinhui's session will focus on the specifics, i.e. answering the question: why do auto-scaling with Senlin? how do you compare it to AWS service, Heat autoscaling | 01:13 |
| Qiming | if you don't get your hands dirty, you will never realize the advantage we planted into senlin | 01:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yanyan Hu proposed openstack/senlin: Add property updatable check in Senlin profile https://review.openstack.org/289223 | 01:37 |
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| lixinhui | happy to know all of our sessions are accepted. Good year to Senlin! | 02:29 |
| Qiming | yep | 02:30 |
| Yanyanhu | cool! | 02:30 |
| Qiming | we really need to make good prepration for the presentations | 02:30 |
| elynn_ | great news | 02:30 |
| Qiming | instead of doing prompt speech, we should write down all we have to say during the 40 minutes | 02:30 |
| Qiming | memorize it | 02:31 |
| Qiming | recite it | 02:31 |
| Qiming | deliver accurate, comprehensive, rich information to the audience | 02:31 |
| Yanyanhu | yes | 02:31 |
| xuhaiwei | by the way, have all of you reserved the hotel? | 02:33 |
| lixinhui | I have | 02:33 |
| elynn_ | not yet... | 02:33 |
| lixinhui | four-season | 02:33 |
| xuhaiwei | the hotels recommended by the summit are all almost full | 02:35 |
| Qiming | I haven't raised trip request | 02:35 |
| Yanyanhu | not yet... | 02:35 |
| Yanyanhu | haven't talked with boss | 02:36 |
| Yanyanhu | Austin is a small city? | 02:36 |
| lixinhui | yes, not very big | 02:36 |
| Qiming | not big, when compared to ... Beijing | 02:36 |
| xuhaiwei | I searched other hotels, there is one a little far from the conferance center which is still available and not expensive | 02:36 |
| lixinhui | Qiming, once travel there | 02:37 |
| elynn_ | Not sure am I going to austin before... | 02:37 |
| Yanyanhu | ok... | 02:37 |
| Yanyanhu | elynn_, me neither... | 02:37 |
| lixinhui | now happy to see you all in Austin | 02:37 |
| elynn_ | ok, we should be quick... | 02:37 |
| Yanyanhu | anyway, book the hotel first | 02:37 |
| xuhaiwei | about $160 for one night | 02:37 |
| Yanyanhu | with tax? | 02:38 |
| xuhaiwei | yes | 02:38 |
| Qiming | Austin was the first stop I went to the states 9 years ago | 02:38 |
| Yanyanhu | :) | 02:38 |
| Yanyanhu | xuhaiwei, a little bit expensive :) | 02:39 |
| Qiming | Bill Tracy | 02:39 |
| xuhaiwei | that is the cheapest one in that area | 02:39 |
| Qiming | lixinhui, still remember the name? | 02:39 |
| Yanyanhu | xuhaiwei, ok... | 02:39 |
| xuhaiwei | the others are all more than $230 | 02:39 |
| Yanyanhu | sigh... | 02:39 |
| lixinhui | Yes, Qiming | 02:39 |
| zzxwill | Will you go to the summit this time, Yanyanhu? | 02:39 |
| Yanyanhu | zzxwill, hope so:) | 02:40 |
| zzxwill | Nice:) | 02:40 |
| Yanyanhu | you also have the plan :) | 02:40 |
| zzxwill | Nope, so junior for the event and little contribution to the project:( | 02:42 |
| Yanyanhu | that's totally ok. The only thing can stop you is the budget, haha :) | 02:42 |
| xuhaiwei | yes, like Jay's proposal, the summit should be done somewhere not so expensive | 02:43 |
| Yanyanhu | it's really a big party for openstack developer | 02:43 |
| Yanyanhu | xuhaiwei, yep | 02:43 |
| lixinhui | :) | 02:44 |
| xuhaiwei | luxury party | 02:44 |
| Yanyanhu | yes... | 02:45 |
| Qiming | people are voting agains the luxury aspect of the party now | 02:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/senlin: Add property updatable check in Senlin profile https://review.openstack.org/289223 | 02:45 |
| xuhaiwei | by the way, there is another way to go the summit without costing any budget | 02:46 |
| Qiming | by ship? | 02:46 |
| Qiming | by swimming? | 02:46 |
| Yanyanhu | haha | 02:46 |
| xuhaiwei | openstack foundation supports some developers' fee for travel and hotel | 02:46 |
| xuhaiwei | are all freee | 02:46 |
| Qiming | yes, you will need to apply | 02:46 |
| xuhaiwei | one Indian member of our team uses this to go every time | 02:47 |
| xuhaiwei | this time three of them succeeded | 02:47 |
| Qiming | ... | 02:48 |
| elynn_ | ... | 02:48 |
| zzxwill | ... | 02:48 |
| Yanyanhu | ... | 02:48 |
| Yanyanhu | xuhaiwei, any link for this application? | 02:50 |
| Yanyanhu | I want to have a try :) | 02:50 |
| xuhaiwei | from the openstack website, I don't know the detail | 02:50 |
| xuhaiwei | but for this time, it is too late | 02:50 |
| Yanyanhu | ok, let me search it | 02:50 |
| Yanyanhu | oh | 02:51 |
| xuhaiwei | you can have a try for the next time | 02:51 |
| xuhaiwei | the application starts just after the Newton summit | 02:51 |
| xuhaiwei | do it as soon as possible | 02:51 |
| Yanyanhu | sure, will try :) | 02:54 |
| xuhaiwei | The cheapest host I can find is Holiday Inn AUSTIN-TOWN LAKE, $178 for one night | 03:10 |
| Yanyanhu | ... | 03:10 |
| Yanyanhu | but I guess we can get better negotiated price :) | 03:11 |
| xuhaiwei | it's 1.4 kilometer far away from the conference center | 03:11 |
| xuhaiwei | this hotel will be sold out in one of two weeks I think | 03:13 |
| zzxwill | You guys whose presentations were accepted by the summit can get free ticket, but have to afford the accommodations yourselves? | 03:14 |
| xuhaiwei | tickets are free for who have submitted patches | 03:14 |
| xuhaiwei | all the developers are free | 03:15 |
| Yanyanhu | yes, once you have a commit merged, you get a free ticket | 03:15 |
| Qiming | 178$? | 03:15 |
| xuhaiwei | but flight ticket and hotel fee are the problems | 03:16 |
| Qiming | xuhaiwei, I can find 78$ one | 03:16 |
| xuhaiwei | yes, Qiming | 03:16 |
| Yanyanhu | :) | 03:16 |
| xuhaiwei | which one? | 03:16 |
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| Qiming | though the hotel is not good | 03:16 |
| zzxwill | Wow, so it means I can get a free ticket! | 03:16 |
| Yanyanhu | anyway, just need a place to have a sleep | 03:16 |
| Qiming | zzxwill maybe a little too late this time | 03:17 |
| zzxwill | Got it. | 03:17 |
| Qiming | active contributor only counts last cycle | 03:17 |
| Qiming | if you haven't got a registration code, it means you were not counted | 03:18 |
| Yanyanhu | zzxwill, proposing patch a little earlier in the next cycle will be ok :) | 03:18 |
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| zzxwill | Sure, I will. | 03:18 |
| zzxwill | I got an email titled "Your registration code for OpenStack Summit in Austin". I ignored as I thought it's a span:( | 03:20 |
| zzxwill | spam | 03:20 |
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| lixinhui | hi, everyone | 03:47 |
| lixinhui | do you have free register code? | 03:48 |
| lixinhui | I am trying to help one colleagu of VMware | 03:48 |
| lixinhui | considering most of us have had the speaker code | 03:48 |
| lixinhui | I have use mine... so... | 03:49 |
| lixinhui | s/use/used | 03:49 |
| elynn_ | I already used mine... | 03:49 |
| lixinhui | no problem. me too... | 03:49 |
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| zzxwill | lixinhui, from IRC log, I learnt you needed a promote code. You can take mine if you still need it. | 05:26 |
| elynn | Hi Qiming , around? | 05:31 |
| Qiming | yep | 05:32 |
| elynn | Wanna discuss about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289261/ | 05:32 |
| elynn | templates for senlin resources. | 05:32 |
| Qiming | yes | 05:32 |
| Qiming | saw my comments? | 05:33 |
| elynn | yes, don't put neutron resources there? | 05:33 |
| Qiming | speaking from Heat's perspective, each sample template should have a purpose | 05:34 |
| Qiming | this template could be used to demonstrate how a cluster resource looks like, how a policy, a receiver can be created | 05:34 |
| elynn | you mean we just need to show how to use senlin cluster instead of a whole solution for monitoring and load balancing? | 05:34 |
| Qiming | it is already a lot of information to digest for users | 05:34 |
| Qiming | that is point 1 | 05:34 |
| Qiming | point 2 is that the monitoring and load-balancing way are not how senlin has been advocating | 05:35 |
| Qiming | senlin has a health policy working toward HA use case | 05:35 |
| Qiming | it has load-balancing policy for load-balancing | 05:35 |
| Qiming | the currently proposed template is a misleading one | 05:36 |
| Qiming | point 3, I didn't mention in the review | 05:36 |
| Qiming | the template should not be called an asg.yaml | 05:36 |
| Qiming | it has nothing to do with Heat ASG | 05:37 |
| Qiming | it is not closing the loop for autoscaling because the template did not include ceilometer/monasca alarm resource | 05:37 |
| Qiming | it is just a cluster, with scaling policy, and receivers created for manual scaling | 05:38 |
| elynn | ok, so just adding cluster policy and receivers is ok? | 05:38 |
| Qiming | to keep the sample template ease of use, I'd suggest we start with os.nova.server profile | 05:38 |
| elynn | Do we need an example to os.heat.stack profile? | 05:39 |
| Qiming | the template is already too crowded | 05:39 |
| Qiming | if we want to show some more advanced use cases, we can add a separate one | 05:39 |
| elynn | Yes, I mean another template for stack profile. | 05:40 |
| elynn | Or we can add it later. | 05:40 |
| Qiming | yes, that can be left to users | 05:40 |
| Qiming | it is perfectly okay to add one later | 05:41 |
| elynn | ok, I understood, just update it, help to review again :) | 05:42 |
| elynn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289261/2 | 05:43 |
| Qiming | saw it | 05:43 |
| Qiming | looks pretty simple and intuitive now | 05:43 |
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| Qiming | looks beautiful to me | 05:44 |
| elynn | :D | 05:44 |
| elynn | Just find a typo in description, will update it later. | 05:45 |
| Qiming | it shows at least 4 concepts from Senlin, it is demonstrating a way to manually trigger the scaling of a cluster, and the cluster scaling behavior is controlled | 05:45 |
| Qiming | this is already a lot to digest for users | 05:45 |
| elynn | But we still need some doc to show users how to use senlin in a closing solution, including monitoring and loadbalancer or even health monitor | 05:47 |
| Qiming | yes | 05:48 |
| Qiming | if you want to do load-balancing, you can propose a template with a loadbalancing policy | 05:48 |
| Qiming | that is the way we do load-balancing | 05:49 |
| elynn | I'm not sure putting too many template in one folder can help users, they might get confused. | 05:50 |
| elynn | Or I add a lb policy in this template? | 05:50 |
| Qiming | no | 05:54 |
| Qiming | let each template demonstrate one thing | 05:54 |
| elynn | ok, I will upload this template first, and consider what to do next. | 05:55 |
| Qiming | okay | 05:55 |
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| lixinhui | zzxwill, thanks | 06:21 |
| lixinhui | I need that | 06:21 |
| lixinhui | could you forward me by email? | 06:21 |
| lixinhui | lxinhui@vmware.com | 06:21 |
| zzxwill | Sure. | 06:22 |
| lixinhui | :) | 06:22 |
| zzxwill | Done. No thanks:) | 06:23 |
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| Qiming | seems cannot access openstack wiki | 12:59 |
| yanyanhu | let me have a try | 13:00 |
| yanyanhu | me too... | 13:00 |
| Qiming | tried proxy | 13:00 |
| Qiming | didn't work either | 13:00 |
| Qiming | seems https is blocked at the moment | 13:01 |
| yanyanhu | wiki is broken? | 13:01 |
| yanyanhu | sigh | 13:01 |
| Qiming | or the site is down? | 13:01 |
| Qiming | Secure Connection Failed | 13:01 |
| Qiming | The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. | 13:01 |
| Qiming | The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. | 13:01 |
| Qiming | Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem. | 13:01 |
| Qiming | doesn't seem site down though | 13:01 |
| elynn | Can't either | 13:01 |
| yanyanhu | looks like site is done | 13:02 |
| yanyanhu | I also tried proxy, didn't work | 13:02 |
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