Thursday, 2016-03-17

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elynn_Morning :)02:01
lixinhuiMorning02:03
xuhaiweimorning02:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Use assertIn for test  https://review.openstack.org/29341602:20
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xuhaiweiQiming, finally you come :)02:24
xuhaiweimorning02:24
Qimingrebooted my machine02:24
Qimingforgot to launch irc client02:24
Qimingguys, just posted a PTL candidate announcement to the -dev list02:25
Qimingwe'll still need a name for this position02:26
xuhaiweisaw it02:26
Qimingbefore posting this, I discussed with some of core team02:27
xuhaiweias said in this week's meeting, can we have a discussion about container ?02:28
xuhaiweiis your time ok?02:28
Qimingyes, sure02:28
xuhaiweiby phone?02:28
Qimingyep02:28
Qimingthat would be a better option02:29
xuhaiweiany tools? or dail directly?02:29
Qiminglet me check02:29
QimingI have a conf call number02:29
Qimingthere could be a toll free number if you are dialing in from tokyo02:30
xuhaiweiok,02:30
xuhaiweican you give me the number?02:30
Qimingnot just number02:30
Qimingneed to coordinate with other cores02:31
Qimingmaybe some of them are interested in this as well02:31
Qiminglet's check with elynn_, Yanyanhu, lixinhui02:31
xuhaiweithis is like a meeting room?02:31
xuhaiweican have many people joined?02:31
Qimingyes02:32
xuhaiweithat is fine02:32
elynn_great!02:32
xuhaiweishould I dail it from telephone or from some software?02:32
Qimingmy whole afternoon is available02:32
Qimingit is a telephone number02:32
Qimingxuhaiwei, for you02:33
Qimingthe number would be one of:02:33
Qiming050-6864-801502:34
Qiming00531-11-008602:34
Qiming0066-33-83032102:34
Qiming0034-800-60006002:34
Qimingthe firs is Caller Paid (not sure what that means), but it is the preferred access02:35
Qimingthe second is KDD02:35
Qimingthe 3rd is Softbank & Mobile02:35
Qimingthe 4th is NTT02:35
Qiminglixinhui, there?02:35
xuhaiweiok, thanks a lot02:35
QimingYanyanhu, ?02:36
Qimingxuhaiwei, let's check with that boy and that girl and see if they are interested02:36
Yanyanhuhi, sorry, in a meeting02:36
Qimingafternoon today would be okay for you?02:37
Yanyanhusure02:37
xuhaiweiI am ok02:37
Qiminghow about 2pm-3pm BJ time ?02:37
xuhaiweiwhat about 13:00 Beijing time02:37
xuhaiweithat is ok for me02:37
elynn_I'm available afternoon.02:37
Qimingok02:37
Qimingwill send invitation to everyone02:38
xuhaiweiI just made an announce in senlin group from wechat02:38
Qimingxr.jp... account? xuhaiwei02:39
xuhaiweiI dont know what you mean02:39
Qimingsending meeting invite to your email02:40
Qimingbut don't know which address will work02:40
xuhaiweiyes, it's ok02:40
elynn_Do we need to invite some magnum guys to the meeting?02:44
xuhaiweiI am thinking about this question too, the problem is the language we use in this meeting02:44
xuhaiweiuse English or Chinese?02:45
Qimingeither way02:45
xuhaiweimaybe chinese is better to make things clear02:50
xuhaiweielynn_, who do you want to invite?02:50
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Kennanhi all, I found an interesting topic mentioned by Qiming in mail02:54
Kennanit said contianer-cluster management02:54
Qimingyes, Kennan02:54
KennanI'd like to learn much details, what's the scope for that ? and any possiblities Magnum could use or it overlap with magnum ?02:55
KennanIf you have a session about it, please let me know02:55
KennanThanks02:55
QimingKennan, we are not very clear about magnum roadmap02:55
Qimingsenlin is about cluster of "things", we now support heat stack cluster, nova server cluster02:56
Qimingit is a natural move to support container cluster, though we are not 100% sure we are aware of all the challenges02:56
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QimingKennan, sorry for Hexchat crashed again02:57
Qimingwe do have a talk on austin summit: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/793602:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Revise region placement policy  https://review.openstack.org/29326602:59
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EldonZhao终于找到组织了~03:05
Qiming:)03:05
zzxwillWelcome.03:06
Qimingwe are not 'hiding'03:06
EldonZhao我现在承接徐军的活,根据我们的需求,有一些代码修改,想讨论一下后续的何如策略03:06
Qimingany feedback/comment/suggestion/patch/review are all welcomed03:07
KennanQiming glad to know that, do you mean container-scale or container-node scale for container cluster management ?  (container scale have been done by kubernetes or others), seems not need to do so.03:08
QimingKennan, maybe both03:08
elynn_xuhaiwei, just come back, Kennan is interesting in our container support roadmap.03:09
EldonZhaook,3q03:09
Qimingwe are trying to make containers first-class citizen on openstack03:09
KennanQiming not quite follow, what's the difference between senlin container-scale wiht kubernetes and mesos etc. ?03:09
Kennando we real need that ?03:10
QimingKennan, not sure about it either, so any comments are welcomed03:10
KennanQiming: ok l'd like to join such session :003:10
KennanThanks03:10
Qimingone of the difficulties we met, is about integration03:10
xuhaiweiI think you can join us for further discussion this afternoon03:10
xuhaiweikennan03:10
Qimingkubernetes is about Go, mesos is in C03:11
KennanOK xuhaiwei03:11
QimingMarathon is in Java03:11
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Qimingit is funny, and it is strange03:12
xuhaiweiKennan, there is a spec here, you can review it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281102/03:12
KennanQiming sure Will join discuss in meeting about the potenial issue03:12
Kennanxuhaiwei maybe yuanying: can also help review, as he also knows about Magnum :)03:13
xuhaiweiyes, want to hear more ideas03:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-senlinclient: Add OSC command and enable more than one arguements  https://review.openstack.org/29274503:32
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Qiming_conf call started06:01
elynn_I thought it was 14:30...06:01
Qiming_oh, yes06:01
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Qiming_sorry06:01
Qiming_talk to you 30 mins later06:02
Qiming_we have some patches for review06:09
Qiming_anyone can help?06:09
elynn_I will :)06:10
Qiming_thanks, we are about to release rc1 before tomorrow06:12
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xuhaiweihi, how to start the meeting? just call the number you listed? anyone is ok?06:17
Qiming_yes,06:17
xuhaiweiok06:18
Qiming_you will be promoted to enter a passcode (attached in the invitation)06:18
Qiming_then you are in the room06:18
Qiming_"room"06:18
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xuhaiweiI have tried several times, for example 00531110086, should I dial +86 531110086 ?06:30
xuhaiweiit seems not accessible06:30
Qiming_they are all your local numbers06:30
Qiming_0506864801506:31
Qiming_this one should work06:31
elynn_I'm in.06:32
Qiming_lixinhui, calling in?06:32
Qiming_xuhaiwei, your number?06:34
Qiming_we can call you06:34
xuhaiweinot work now06:34
xuhaiweimy office's number?06:35
Qiming_yes06:35
xuhaiwei035534232206:35
Qiming_country code?06:35
xuhaiwei+8106:35
xuhaiweiyou should dial +8135534232206:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Revise zone placement policy  https://review.openstack.org/29327006:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Add CLUSTER_RESIZE support to zone placement  https://review.openstack.org/29329206:36
Qiming_line busy06:36
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lixinhui_what is access code?06:36
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xuhaiweino one is using it now06:37
Qiming_lixinhui, 2157537106:37
lixinhui_okay06:38
Qiming_https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/793606:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Documentation for zone placement policy  https://review.openstack.org/29333806:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Fix deletion policy for resize parsing  https://review.openstack.org/29346006:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Documentation for the load-balance policy  https://review.openstack.org/29283306:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Optimize lb policy for the case count is 0  https://review.openstack.org/29325706:58
openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Optimize action data update in lb policy  https://review.openstack.org/29326206:58
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xuhaiweiQiming_, should we make a demo for the summit session?07:45
Qiming_a demo would be great07:45
Qiming_but not sure we have time to get it done07:46
xuhaiweimaybe just creating some vms, and then run containers in it?07:48
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Qiming_that is fine07:55
xuhaiweiok, will think about it07:56
Qiming_if you are creating a coreos vm cluster, you can do that easily07:56
xuhaiweiwill need special image for that vms?07:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Add CLUSTER_RESIZE support to region placement policy  https://review.openstack.org/29328708:05
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/senlin: Fix zone CLUSTER_RESIZE support  https://review.openstack.org/29386308:06
Qiming_yes08:06
Qiming_that is the quickest way08:06
Qiming_you can certainly use a fedora with docker or k8s installed08:08
xuhaiweithere is another problem remained when creating container cluster, that is when requesting to docker-api, it is necessary to authenticate the request08:09
Qiming_https://coreos.com/os/docs/latest/booting-on-openstack.html08:09
xuhaiweiok, got it08:09
Qiming_authenticate to whom?08:10
xuhaiweilike we start a nova instance, we should get a token from keystone right?08:11
Qiming_no08:11
xuhaiweiauthenticate the user08:11
Qiming_I am not sure that is necessary08:12
xuhaiweilet me think about it08:15
Qiming_who did this? http://docs.openstack.org/cli-reference/senlin.html08:18
xuhaiweinot you?08:19
Qiming_no08:19
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Qiming_xuhaiwei08:59
Qiming_I just tried08:59
Qiming_but I'm not sure it is correct08:59
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Qiming_after launching a node with a coreos image08:59
Qiming_you can make the docker daemon listen on both local socket and a TCP port09:00
Qiming_then from the Host machine, you can do what you want09:00
Qiming_did a stupid thing09:11
Qiming_cleansed /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/09:11
xuhaiweifor the docker inside vm, should we make some configuration for it?09:13
xuhaiweiit seems a script is needed, Qiming?09:14
Qiming_you can start with some simple ones for sure09:15
openstackgerritCindia-blue proposed openstack/senlin: Fix problems with add timer and improve periodic tasks  https://review.openstack.org/29389709:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/senlin: Fix zone CLUSTER_RESIZE support  https://review.openstack.org/29386314:34
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/senlin: Documentation for the region placement policy  https://review.openstack.org/29406314:36
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