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| ttx | krotscheck: skipping meeting today ? | 15:00 |
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| ttx | I'll count that as yes | 15:14 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: … I think I have failed at time zone changes. | 15:54 |
| krotscheck | Also at jetlag | 15:54 |
| * krotscheck was under the impression that we moved the meeting back an hour. | 15:54 | |
| krotscheck | Wait. | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | No, I’m not wrong! It’s 1600 UTC, right? | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#StoryBoard_Meeting | 15:55 |
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| krotscheck | StoryBoard meeting in #openstack-meeting-3 | 16:00 |
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| ttx | Arh, meeting ical not updated | 16:07 |
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| krotscheck | Don’t worry about it, I have three entries for the storyboard meeting on my calendar now :/ | 16:09 |
| ttx | fixed the 2 in mine :) | 16:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Fixed launchpad import bugs. https://review.openstack.org/133542 | 18:58 |
| krotscheck | Ok, so ^^ is the first but in the import script. | 18:58 |
| krotscheck | The second bug will need more work because Launchpad can have duplicate users. | 18:59 |
| krotscheck | Argh. Should we allow multiple openid’s per user? | 19:12 |
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| krotscheck | The issue is that we may have multiple Launchpad openids per user. I can create a user prompt to ask the importer whether to merge users, but our data model will drop/lose one of the openid’s. | 19:13 |
| krotscheck | And without having that user available while we’re doing the import we can’t really resolve which one is the correct one, so we may accidentally create a zombie user. | 19:14 |
| krotscheck | The alternative is to create a multiple-openid-per-user case. | 19:14 |
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| persia | At one point LP tried to have single-ID-per-user, but many users expressed a desire to have multiple IDs on a per-purpose basis (e.g. work/home or work1/work2) | 19:30 |
| persia | Unless we understand *why* folk have multiple IDs, it gets confusing. Was there a mistake, and two accounts merged (at another point LP auto-created about 25,000 accounts for "celebrities" in Open Source), did the accounts diverge? Were they always separate for different purposes? What was the motivation to select one over another when configuring gerrit and/or StoryBoard? | 19:32 |
| persia | My (naive) suggestion would be to do a straight import, so that each LP OpenID gets a StoryBoard user, and then provide a means for users to request merge (un-zombie). | 19:32 |
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| persia | Note that this might be painfully complicated to actually implement, but it should allow for the earliest safe import. | 19:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Permit name conflicts in users table. https://review.openstack.org/133571 | 23:21 |
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| r1chardj0n3s | really? launchpad doesn't enforce uniqueness of username?!? | 23:23 |
| krotscheck | r1chardj0n3s: NOpe | 23:24 |
| r1chardj0n3s | ugh, that's messed up | 23:24 |
| krotscheck | Well, it KINDOF makes sense. | 23:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | and also so dangerous in the context of gerrit where we generally just glance at name/username and no deeper | 23:25 |
| krotscheck | r1chardj0n3s: yep. | 23:25 |
| krotscheck | r1chardj0n3s: I outlined some of my thoughts here -> http://www.krotscheck.net/2014/11/10/storyboard-authentication-and-authorization.html | 23:25 |
| r1chardj0n3s | cool, glad you're on it :) | 23:26 |
| krotscheck | Since starbucks internet was down and I had nothing to do but blog | 23:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | :/ | 23:26 |
| r1chardj0n3s | I'm in the middle of actioning some stuff from the Horizon meetup; shall read your blogging and review that change in a bit :) | 23:27 |
| persia | In classic texts on the AAA problem, "Authentication" is typically considered entirely distinct from "Authorization", this being from a time when authentication as a role was more common than authentication to an identity token. Other than that, a wonderful writeup of the underlying problem. | 23:34 |
| persia | (the third A being accounting, as having a record of what happened is an essential part of the security model: supporting deniability does not provide for robust ACLs) | 23:35 |
| * krotscheck needs to blog more often. | 23:37 | |
| persia | On IRC nick mapping: it is worth tracking network as well as nick, as many folk have different nicks on different networks. Currently OpenStack cares mostly about freenode, but there are relevant discussions happening in other forums | 23:38 |
| persia | For some IRC networks, nicks can be asserted to belong to an identity by services, sometimes mapped to a password, and sometimes mapped to an X.509 certificate (depending on the services engine in place) | 23:38 |
| krotscheck | persia: Likely - I don’t think it’ll be a huge issue until we get to writing the storyboard irc bot. | 23:39 |
| persia | I believe that LibreOffice uses a model like this: granting access to resources based on the user being able to prove access to a given freenode account | 23:39 |
| * krotscheck makes all kinds of hand wavey yeah it’ll support all the things motions | 23:39 | |
| * persia stops injecting complication | 23:39 | |
| krotscheck | Long story short: I have a goal line, which some people might agree with, but which I’ll be working towards, and is now out in the open so people can yell at me. | 23:40 |
| r1chardj0n3s | yay! yelling! :) | 23:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Michael Krotscheck proposed a change to openstack-infra/storyboard: Permit name conflicts in users table. https://review.openstack.org/133571 | 23:53 |
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