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| zara_the_lemur__ | evening, storyboard! | 20:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zara proposed openstack-infra/storyboard: Remove contentless operator manual https://review.openstack.org/418122 | 21:32 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | bit controversial | 21:33 |
| SotK | :O :O :O | 21:37 |
| SotK | really my only concern is that we may end up forgetting to ever add it back | 21:37 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, that's the original reason I left it up for so long, though | 21:37 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and I still haven't got round to fixing it | 21:37 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I'm unlikely to forget that it requires a lot of manual steps to set up atm | 21:37 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | maybe removing the guide will be the necessary motivation for trying out the ansible role again... | 21:38 |
| persia | My understanding was that all operators either used the ansible role or the puppet-storyboard magic: maybe the key to the operators guide is that one shouldn't do it manually? | 21:42 |
| SotK | that matches my understanding | 21:43 |
| SotK | though I think the intention for the guide is "how to do the puppet/ansible magic yourself" rather than manual instructions | 21:44 |
| SotK | perhaps just "there is puppet here and ansible here" would suffice | 21:44 |
| persia | Aha, that makes sense. In that case, it probably needs to be written by someone who does it that way :) | 21:44 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, I tried to do the magic a while back, and was missing some context, because I couldn't get either to work. | 21:45 |
| persia | :( | 21:45 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | plan was to put instructions in once I'd done it | 21:45 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | then, yeahhh | 21:45 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I should've linked https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000535 | 21:46 |
| SotK | I made the puppet magic work using the scripts in system-config one time iirc | 21:46 |
| SotK | though I'd rather provide less openstack-specific instructions I think | 21:46 |
| persia | I suspect the easiest way to get it to work is to walk through it with an operator, because they can probably help explain when things go wrong. | 21:46 |
| persia | SotK: Wouldn't that require duplicating a reasonable chunk of system-config? In my mind, if someone wants to set up Storyboard with puppet, they might want to borrow other puppet stuff from OpenStack, but maybe I'm not thinking clearly. | 21:48 |
| SotK | persia: I think using system-config is probably the best way, but they'd want to remove the bits where it does things like create unix users for the infra team | 21:52 |
| persia | Ah, so something that wrapped system-config, and only used parts of it? | 21:52 |
| persia | Or instructions to override certain bits? | 21:53 |
| SotK | it'd probably be possible to write a manifest that excluded certain bits, but I didn't look into it at all | 21:54 |
| SotK | in fact looking now I *think* it would be fairly easy | 21:55 |
| persia | Indeed. Looking at puppet docs, it seems fairly trivial to override things like that. | 21:55 |
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