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| diablo_rojo | Hello! | 17:51 |
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| diablo_rojo | So, meeting? | 17:55 |
| fungi | sure, i'm game | 18:00 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK? | 18:00 |
| fungi | and if we don't not a big deal, there's always next week | 18:03 |
| diablo_rojo | I can go either way. | 18:05 |
| fungi | if people have things to bring up they can always feel free to raise them in here anyway. my irc client reminds me any time there's unseen comments in this channel | 18:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Yes definitely! | 18:06 |
| SotK | oops, sorry | 18:18 |
| SotK | I don't really have anything to talk about | 18:19 |
| fungi | no worries, i'm pretty much always around if you do think of something | 18:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah if anything comes up, I'm around. | 18:27 |
| johnsom | So, here is a question. Is it time to give up on storyboard? | 21:39 |
| johnsom | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/osc-placement/+/794276 | 21:39 |
| johnsom | That comment string is an example of the kind of feedback we get as well. | 21:40 |
| johnsom | Since we don't seem to have momentum behind improving the situation, I'm just wondering if we need to consider alternate options. | 21:41 |
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| fungi | anyone is free to move off storyboard to something else. i'm not going to ask the storyboard developers to give up developing it though | 21:50 |
| SotK | I mean yeah, realistically having sufficient momentum to develop and maintain a task tracker for something like OpenDev is close to impossible with a team of 3 people with minimal free time to dedicate to it | 21:56 |
| SotK | the last few years of trying have made that clear | 21:56 |
| SotK | I like working on the interesting ideas in StoryBoard and will continue to do so when I have time, energy, and interest, but if its an active impediment to getting things done then you should probably use a different tool (or try to cause it to improve to a sustainable point somehow, but the entire lifetime of StoryBoard has shown there's not reall | 22:00 |
| SotK | y a lot of appetite for that task) | 22:00 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I think it's healthy to have this conversation regularly. I'm not saying development needs to stop or the project abandoned, I'm just questioning if we should consider alternate options for OpenDev projects until it gets the attention it needs to handle our projects. | 22:46 |
| johnsom | Just for context, Octavia was an early adopter. We have tried to contribute patches. We have opened stories. We have created etherpads of issues that are impacting our ability to work bugs/stories. It's been three years since the last etherpad list was opened and many of the same problems still exist. | 22:58 |
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| fungi | and the assistance has been appreciated, unfortunately not many other projects did the same (particularly the proposing and reviewing of fixes, even though we strove to make it easy to deploy a development local version of the entire stack) | 23:04 |
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