Wednesday, 2015-11-04

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sridhar_rambobh: howdy? do you mind giving a thumbs up for our new Tuesday meeting slot at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24120102:18
sridhar_rams3wong: bobh: howdy? do you mind giving a thumbs up for our new Tuesday meeting slot at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24120102:18
bobhsridhar_ram: will do - did you see Tony's comment?02:18
sridhar_rambobh: yes, replying as I type :)02:18
s3wongsridhar_ram: it is available? amazing!02:19
sridhar_rams3wong: yeah, openstack-meeting-4 is available, rushing to grab it !02:19
s3wongsridhar_ram: definitely02:20
s3wongsridhar_ram: Oh? You changed it to 1600?02:20
s3wongsridhar_ram: that would be 9am PST and 10am PDT02:21
sridhar_rams3wong: hmm... I used this to line up things . http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015&month=11&day=4&hour=17&min=0&sec=0&p1=283&p2=64&p3=17602:23
sridhar_rams3wong: we are still sticking to the 9am slot02:24
s3wongsridhar_ram: I am fine with the time, luckily you didn't change it to 7am PST, in which case I would have to miss02:24
sridhar_rams3wong: 9am seems reasonable to attract max participation02:25
s3wongsridhar_ram: sure02:25
sridhar_rams3wong: ofcourse this will change as we get more APAC participants02:25
s3wongsridhar_ram: do we?  :-)02:25
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tbharathsridhar_ram, Hi, it is nice to listen that tacker got a good response in summit05:25
tbharathand expected to see container related stuff in etherpad05:27
sridhar_ramtbharath: howdy! yeah, we had fantastic response... missed you in the developer meetup05:43
sridhar_ramtbharath: container is something we need a solid use-case to indulge more...05:44
sridhar_ramtbharath: .. but we need to keep exploring05:44
sridhar_ramtbharath: I remember you worked on Magnum ?05:44
tbharathsridhar_ram, yeah, even in magnum currently pushing monitoring k8s bay :)05:45
sridhar_ramtbharath: :)05:46
tbharathsridhar_ram, one more thing, when you find some time, let me know, you said that we will discuss more on NFV05:47
sridhar_ramtbharath: yeah, I still owe you one.. lets plan something for next week05:48
tbharathsridhar_ram, sure, thank you!05:48
sridhar_ramtbharath: we had another dev from indian timezone interested in tacker ..05:49
tbharathtbharath, is he in IRC?05:49
sridhar_ramtbharath: hope we can grow tacker-india team..!05:49
tbharathsridhar_ram, that's nice05:49
sridhar_ramtbharath: Her name is Veena .. and I believe the irc is #veena05:50
tbharathsridhar_ram, we got few people experimenting with tacker, like KLuka_  karimb and one more guy who mailed last week05:50
tbharathsridhar_ram, yeah I saw her yesterday05:50
sridhar_ramtbharath: introduce yourself .. perhaps she could use some initial help standing things up05:51
tbharathsridhar_ram, sure05:51
tbharathsridhar_ram, bobh and me were discussing about providing respawn limit for VNF05:52
tbharathsridhar_ram, pushed inital version of the patch, and bobh gave suggestions, and we are waiting for you review also on that design also05:53
tbharathwhenever you get time you can see his comments or in the next IRC meeting we can discuss on it05:54
sridhar_ramtbharath: will take a look.. hopefully by tomorrow. The idea of "localized" respawn limit sounded interesting05:56
sridhar_ramtbharath: a qq on magnum05:56
tbharathsridhar_ram, I didn't get this "localized" respawn05:58
tbharathsridhar_ram, sure05:59
sridhar_ramtbharath: I thought bobh suggested respawn limit should factor in how soon respawn happens. If it happens infrequently looks he was suggesting not to mark max-respawn-reached ?06:00
tbharathsridhar_ram, yes, his idea to reset failure count, if VNF is active for long time period06:01
sridhar_ramtbharath: okay.. I'll respond soon on that gerrit..06:02
tbharathsridhar_ram, in that I used check_intvl for activeness of VNF, but I realised it is not accurate, so I will better store time06:03
sridhar_ramtbharath: on magnum - I see bay create with backend pointing to k8s or docker swarm or mesos... can they all co-exists on the same installation ?06:07
sridhar_ramtbharath: for eg: can I create have 3 bays of each of these diff type and land docker containers on each of them ?06:08
tbharathsridhar_ram, yes, whenever you create baymodel, you can specify which COE you want to use06:08
tbharathsridhar_ram, so while creating bay, you have to specify baymodel06:08
tbharathbaymodel is like flavour where you specify that I want docker swarm coe, I want to use testkey keypair, I want to use public network06:09
tbharathso you can create three baymodels one for each coe06:10
tbharathsridhar_ram, does that make sense?06:13
sridhar_ramtbharath: that's cool...06:13
sridhar_ramtbharath: yes, it does.. I meant this try this one day. how easy is the setup ? few VMs ?06:14
tbharathsridhar_ram, I have used devstack to setup magnum, and to create a bay it requires minimum two VMs06:15
tbharathone for master and one for agent06:15
sridhar_ramtbharath: okay.. thanks a lot. will give this a spin at some point!06:16
sridhar_ramtbharath: time to snooze.. will catch you tomorrow06:16
tbharathsridhar_ram, sure, see you06:16
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openstackgerritSantosh Kodicherla proposed openstack/tacker:     Add tacker multi vdu tests  https://review.openstack.org/23954608:03
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openstackgerritbharaththiruveedula proposed openstack/tacker: Set respawn limit to VNF respawn policy  https://review.openstack.org/24081414:18
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openstackgerritbharaththiruveedula proposed openstack/tacker: Set respawn limit to VNF respawn policy  https://review.openstack.org/24081414:30
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mboundbobh: I had a question regarding the monitoring policies for VNFs. I understand the policy when a VNFs is not reachable is by default to respawn it. Does also a "noop" policy exist? So that the VNF is not respawned even if it's not responding? I find this would be very helpful for debugging network issues.15:12
mboundOr maybe this is actually possible with the latest commits, by specifying a respawn limit of 0?15:13
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tbhmbound: if we set monitor driver as noop, tacker won't monitor the vnf15:24
tbhSo it won't even respawn15:25
mboundtbh: thanks :-) but is it possible to monitor it (via ping or other method), but not respawn it when it fails? so have a failure action set to "noop" or similar.15:27
tbhmbound: in vnfd don't specify 'failure: respawn:15:29
mboundtbh: ok, thanks! so i can just remove the line?15:30
tbhmbound: set failure:log15:31
tbhSo that it will log that vnf is dead15:32
mboundthanks :-)15:36
bobhmbound: There is an action of "log" which will log a message when the monitor finds a problem but not resawn15:39
bobhs/resawn/respawn/15:40
mboundbobh: thanks, I must have missed it. Is there a wiki/documentation already or is it WIP? I wouldn't mind writing a couple of lines of documentation while I test on my machines15:42
bobhmbound: I'm not sure if it is even WIP - though it should be.  We had talked about a monitoring devref but I don't know if it ever got started/finished.  Feel free to contribute one if you have time :-)  Thanks!15:46
mboundbobh: i'll do my best, I just need to pick my brains on how the contributing process works, as I've never done it, but I'd be glad to contribute15:47
bobhmbound: thanks. Feel free to ask any questions - it can be confusing the first time - there is some good documentation of the process here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute#If_you.27re_a_developer15:56
mboundbobh: thanks! I'll take a look :-)16:00
bobhmound: and welcome!16:01
bobhmbound: and welcome!16:01
tbhbobh mbound monitoring devref was already got merged16:02
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tbh_bobh mbound https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/doc/source/devref/monitor-api.rst16:03
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bobhtbh_: Thanks - I thought it was there already16:11
mboundtbh_: thanks for the info, didn't know it existed16:17
KLuka_Hi, guys do you think it would be useful, if we add some option to display template file for VNFD in nice format (with preserved newlines etc...)?16:20
KLuka_I have a patch ready and I can submit a PR if you wish. And maybe we can work on details on gerrit...16:20
KLuka_Please let me know16:20
KLuka_what do you think :)16:20
bobhKLuka_: I think that would be useful - please submit and we can review the changes16:21
KLuka_Ok great ;) I will do that, but now I have to run. Here is the preview: http://paste.openstack.org/show/477987/16:23
bobhKLuka_: Thanks!  Looking forward to the review16:24
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openstackgerritbharaththiruveedula proposed openstack/tacker: Set respawn limit to VNF respawn policy  https://review.openstack.org/24081417:49
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openstackgerritLuka Krajger proposed openstack/python-tackerclient: Added option for displaying VNFD template  https://review.openstack.org/24176220:48
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openstackgerritLuka Krajger proposed openstack/python-tackerclient: Added option for displaying VNFD template  https://review.openstack.org/24176221:08
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