Monday, 2013-11-18

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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Switch novato the upstream api-paste.ini  https://review.openstack.org/5624600:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Switch novato the upstream api-paste.ini  https://review.openstack.org/5624600:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add element to install memcached  https://review.openstack.org/5656100:31
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lifelessoh man, and then *I* fluff it. Headdesk.00:39
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openstackgerritVictor Lowther proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make pxe_mac accurate in two common cases.  https://review.openstack.org/5678903:46
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lifelessmorning europe :)07:22
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rpodolyakamorning all07:28
* rpodolyaka grabs more coffee07:32
ogelbukhhi rpodolyaka07:32
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pblahogood morning07:36
rpodolyakaogelbukh: hey! got tired of having rest? :)07:36
ogelbukh:)07:36
ogelbukhnot really07:36
ogelbukhjust 4 days of rest, and back to work )07:37
GheRiveromorning all07:37
ogelbukhGheRivero: pblaho: morning07:37
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove sqlalchemy-migrate 0.7.3 patching  https://review.openstack.org/5687407:51
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Ngmorning09:09
rpodolyakao/09:09
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GheRiveroo/09:14
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Ngugh, I need to do my summit expenses09:14
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use the heat upstream api-paste.ini config.  https://review.openstack.org/5673609:23
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use the neutron upstream api-paste.ini config.  https://review.openstack.org/5673509:23
rpodolyakainteresting, all py26 jobs on zuul are queued09:29
lifelesspy26 slaves either saturated or dead09:30
lifelesspoke directly at jenkins to see09:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use DIB_INIT_SYSTEM for systemd checks.  https://review.openstack.org/5673909:31
pblahorpodolyaka: did you reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56837 ?09:32
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rpodolyakapblaho: yep. is something wrong with this one?09:33
pblahorpodolyaka: I am confused by commit message...09:33
rpodolyakapblaho: it's just a sync from oslo-incubator09:34
pblahorpodolyaka: so that commits mentioned in message are in oslo-incubator?09:34
rpodolyakapblaho: Michael summarizes  what has changed synce the last sync09:34
rpodolyakapblaho: right09:35
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Make pxe_mac accurate in two common cases.  https://review.openstack.org/5678909:35
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Don't block the upstart daemon if it doesn't exist  https://review.openstack.org/5680509:35
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Update openstack/common/periodic_task  https://review.openstack.org/5683709:36
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: /bin/bash all the things.  https://review.openstack.org/5678209:36
pblahorpodolyaka: ok... thanks for clarification...09:36
rpodolyakapblaho: np09:36
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lifelessNg: o/09:44
Nghey lifeless09:44
lifelessNg: Will you be able to help Maha etc out?09:45
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Nglifeless: sure09:47
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lifelessNg: cool; probably want to reach out to them on mail/lync09:48
lifelessNg: they are flailing I suspect09:48
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* Ng pokes lync09:50
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lifelessmax_lobur: any chance you can disable that AFK plugin? It can introduce quite some noise into IRC channels09:59
lifelessmax_lobur: better to just set your away status, not to emit events about it09:59
max_loburhi lifeless09:59
max_lobursure I'll disable09:59
lifelessmax_lobur: thanks!09:59
max_loburnp09:59
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Nggah, virtual rooms, why do you hate my login10:02
lifelessNg: because it can?10:03
Ngapparently so10:03
Nglifeless: have you ever signed into it directly with your corp login? I've only ever followed links in meeting invites10:03
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lifelessNg: no, there's a get IT thing to get your own loging10:04
lifelessNg: but10:04
lifelessNg: why?10:04
Nglifeless: dunno, I've never created a virtual room before, I guessed that launching the app and logging in would make that be a thing10:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Remove api version from glance endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/5624910:08
openstackgerritMarios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: WIP : sketch of what using merge.py looks like for tuskar  https://review.openstack.org/5204510:08
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Remove sqlalchemy-migrate 0.7.3 patching  https://review.openstack.org/5687410:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Split network bringup out of base ramdisk init.  https://review.openstack.org/5683611:38
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add ability to apply elements to current system.  https://review.openstack.org/5607412:32
ogelbukhrpodolyaka: do you mind answer a question?12:33
ogelbukhrpodolyaka: what's your plan about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/oslo-config-options-validation ?12:34
rpodolyakaogelbukh: kind of off-topic here :) not sure, if I have time for this in Icehouse :( so if you are willing to work on this, go ahead and reassign blueprint12:35
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ogelbukhrpodolyaka: thanks, got it12:36
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Comply with new hacking requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5691812:37
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add ability to apply elements to current system.  https://review.openstack.org/5607412:40
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-collect-config: Comply with new hacking requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5691812:49
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Nglifeless: I have updated the Spree spreadsheet with my latest whatnottery13:01
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Update swift element to install from source  https://review.openstack.org/5600613:31
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use swift as a backend to glance  https://review.openstack.org/5600713:31
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add metadata to configure swift  https://review.openstack.org/5601213:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add TOCI_OVERCLOUD_ALL_IN_ONE option.  https://review.openstack.org/5646913:56
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Nglifeless: fyi, POC is not yet resolved, our current understanding is that the deploy ramdisk is failing because the local storage on the machine isn't configured. They're going to go off and confirm that now and link back up with me later14:08
Ngin the mean time, I am going to make the troubleshoot function in the ramdisk significantly less annoying :)14:08
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openstackgerritMarios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: WIP : sketch of what using merge.py looks like for tuskar  https://review.openstack.org/5204514:12
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openstackgerritChris Jones proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add troubleshooting override to deploy ramdisk.  https://review.openstack.org/5694114:19
Ngthere :)14:20
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Minor devtest documentation fixes  https://review.openstack.org/5694414:29
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openstackgerritMarios Andreou proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make merge.py invokable from another script  https://review.openstack.org/5694714:43
NobodyCamGod morning TripleO14:46
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dkehnmorning all14:48
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openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use env variables as tripleo-cd cloud params  https://review.openstack.org/5695515:20
openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use env variables as tripleo-cd cloud params  https://review.openstack.org/5695615:21
openstackgerritRoman Podoliaka proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix floating ips when devtest.sh is hand executed  https://review.openstack.org/5695715:21
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openstackgerritTomas Sedovic proposed a change to openstack/os-apply-config: Respect the preset permissions of config files  https://review.openstack.org/5470816:07
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add mapping for gearmand  https://review.openstack.org/5698016:44
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/os-apply-config: Add new type for swiftdevices  https://review.openstack.org/5698316:53
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding element to install the gearman job server  https://review.openstack.org/5698517:08
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openstackgerritChris Jones proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add troubleshooting override to deploy ramdisk.  https://review.openstack.org/5694117:22
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lifelessNg: cool; thanks very much!18:58
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add troubleshooting override to deploy ramdisk.  https://review.openstack.org/5694119:08
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lifelessNg: I worry a little about a 10 second hard delay19:15
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lifelessNg: perhaps it would be possible to drop into troubleshooting mode on error and accept a keypress anywhere up to the end of the deploy using thingy - the boot time keyboard multiplexer19:16
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derekhpleia2: Myself and dprince been playing a bit with gearman and adding notes here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/3rYI32gvfu so far mainly just feeling around but if you have also looked into it maybe you might have things to add/remove19:23
pleia2derekh: great, thanks19:23
derekhpleia2: I'll get a running gearman job server on the undercloud tomorrow so we can start running workers / clients against it19:24
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Nglifeless: I do see the concern about a 10 second delay, although we should only be hitting the troubleshoot() call if something is actually wrong19:29
lifelessNg: oh, its already an error handler?19:31
Nglifeless: yes, although if we haven't passed "troubleshoot" on the kernel command line, we just barrel on even though we know something is wrong, which is a bit weird19:32
pleia2derekh: I ran into some snags with configure-vm changes, changing the names of the VMs impacts a lot and virsh obviously doesn't like having multiple things of the same name, so I need to work through it19:33
lifelessNg: your patch changes that right?19:33
lifelesspleia2: just lots of little things need updating right?19:34
pleia2lifeless: yeah, lots of little things19:34
pleia2also a fever has now joined my cold symptoms, so I probably need a nap soon :\19:34
dkehnlifeless: was the upgrade conversation we had last week, how is the upgrade going to be managed, in the context of nova (i.e. like rebuild) or something else?19:34
lifelesspleia2: just send them in piecemeal - keep your local WIP low19:34
lifelessdkehn: yes, rebuild19:35
lifelesspleia2: :(19:35
pleia2lifeless: ok, will do19:35
Nglifeless: technically no, all I've done is add a 10s pause for an operator to cause a shell to be spawned. if they do nothing, the init script will continue. If they do stuff in the shell and exit it, the script will continue19:35
dkehnlifeless: so we will be appling it to rebuild or recreating a new feature19:35
lifelessNg: I am confused19:38
lifelessdkehn: it's a new feature - see the discussion on the list right before the summit19:38
derekhpleia2: ok, sounds like a headache, if you want to push up what you have at some stage we can divide and conquer, in the meantime I'll keep plugging away at what I can on gearman19:40
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Nglifeless: previous behaviour in the event of an error, was to check if "troubleshoot" is on the kernel command line, if so drop to a shell, if not just ploug on. new behaviour is that if "troubleshoot" isn't on the kernel command line and an error occurs, give the operator a pause to press a key that will flip the "troubleshoot" flag, causing the function to drop to a shell, otherwise plough on19:41
lifelessNg: ok, so you do change the behaviour. And I likes.19:42
lifelessNg: thanks for explaining.19:42
lifelessNg: did you update the manual ?19:42
Nglifeless: hmm, actually I did not19:43
NgI shall do so now19:43
openstackgerritChris Jones proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Document ramdisk troubleshooting.  https://review.openstack.org/5702719:46
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openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Pass baremetal-interface to defined XML  https://review.openstack.org/5703520:11
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openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add bridge option to boot-seed-vm  https://review.openstack.org/5704020:51
openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Pass baremetal-interface to defined XML  https://review.openstack.org/5703520:52
dkehnlifeless: my irssi logging was off can you paste, thx20:54
dkehnlifeless: not unless its all captured in the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-image-updates20:55
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lifelessdkehn: paste what?20:56
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dkehn lifeless: was assuming that the dicsussion you were referring to was in IRC (list)20:56
lifelessdkehn: by list I mean openstack-dev20:56
dkehnlifeless: yep20:56
lifelessdkehn: mailing list20:56
dkehnok20:57
lifelesschannel for IRC channel, list for mailing list20:57
dkehnlifeless: gottit20:58
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Minor devtest documentation fixes  https://review.openstack.org/5694421:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Pass baremetal-interface to defined XML  https://review.openstack.org/5703521:12
devanandalifeless, Ng - for moonshot customized dib components (whether ramdisk changes or different/new image elements) -- where do you think such things should live?21:13
SpamapSdevananda: ultimately wouldn't we want as much as possible in the distros/upstream tools/etc. ?21:14
lifelessdevananda: upstream21:14
devanandagreat. that's what I thought21:14
lifelessdevananda: if a vendor has something proprietary, obviously thats different, but so far Moonshot are open sourcing and pushing fixes to e.g. ipmitool...21:15
Ngnew elements is easy21:15
Ngcustomising elements for hardware is less easy, but something we need to do21:15
devanandaright21:16
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openstackgerritElizabeth Krumbach Joseph proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add bridge option to boot-seed-vm  https://review.openstack.org/5704021:27
lifelessthese elements that just unbreak systemd are a bit tiresome21:28
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add bridge option to boot-seed-vm  https://review.openstack.org/5704021:29
SpamapSlifeless: "tiresome" and systemd go hand in hand.21:30
lifelesswow21:31
lifelessthe swift default config must be odd21:31
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/56006/5..6/elements/swift-proxy/os-config-applier/etc/swift/proxy-server.conf21:31
SpamapSdo we need to do a sweep and kick out all of the os-config-applier dirs ? Clearly the cargo cult is intent on bringing it back..21:32
lifelessperhaps :)21:33
lifelessthe cargo cult is strong in this one21:33
openstackgerritTzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove orphaned flavors  https://review.openstack.org/5705121:34
lifelessSpamapS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56006/ has my +221:34
lifelessSpamapS: I think perhaps we should do the sweep separately21:34
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SpamapSwow thats just mind blowing that swift doesn't put python-keystoneclient in requirements.txt  .. even if you can turn keystone auth off.. its not like it is a giant library with crazy requirements.21:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding element to install the gearman job server  https://review.openstack.org/5698521:39
SpamapS\o/ hooray for gearman :)21:40
lifelessSpamapS: indeed21:40
SpamapSlifeless: I've been thinking about how we tend to base our config files on upstream samples .. I wonder if we could cheaply create a mechanism to warn us when we skew from upstream on config options by storing the upstream version we cribbed from along with the template.21:42
lifelessSpamapS: perhaps; but we're aggressively storing only the needed options now21:42
lifelesse.g. none of what we have is in the upstream21:42
SpamapSlifeless: we're _trying_ to do that21:43
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SpamapSlifeless: like all this pipeline/filter/app stuff in the conf files for swift..21:46
lifelessSpamapS: right, which isn't in the default config AIUI21:46
lifelessSpamapS: because the default config isn't how one deploys swift in OpenStack21:46
lifelessSpamapS: see the older versions of the file that did have default values present.21:46
SpamapSwe're talking about two different things.21:49
SpamapSAgree with all current efforts.21:49
SpamapSBut we don't know when a new config option has arrived and whether or not we need to consider a non-default.21:49
lifelessAgreed.21:49
lifelessNot sure it matters :>21:50
lifelessGoal is for rest of openstack to feed us such changes21:50
SpamapSwell I feel right now we're relying on the "smash into the guardrails" method of discovery.21:50
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SpamapSwhereas if we just copied in the samples that we started with then we'd know when the sample diverges and can evaluate and update appropriately.21:51
lifelessdevelopment by crashing! :)21:51
SpamapSCDD21:51
SpamapS_still_ better than demo driven21:51
lifelessSpamapS: that won't tell us when the default doesn't change but a setting becomes more important21:51
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SpamapSlifeless: but it will tell us when a new config arrives that is important. It will also tell us when settings are deprecated, and when the description changes...21:54
lifelesssure21:54
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lifelessI think its low pri- lets capture in a bug21:54
lifelessvs e.g. nova rebuild21:54
SpamapSgah thats your answer for everything ;)21:54
lifelesswhich I suspect jog0 is stalled on as he's also Mr Elastic21:54
jog0lifeless: and one of the mr help push neutron in the right direction21:55
SpamapSlifeless: I've been next to useless for dev the last week. Feeling 80% today with some kind of stomach "thing"... hoping to actually be able to dive into Nova tomorrow.21:55
lifelessjog0: Ugh :(21:57
lifelessSpamapS: seen  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/blueprints/service-sync ?21:57
jog0lifeless: I hope to push a patch up this after lunch (which will be late for me)21:57
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SpamapSlifeless: reading22:00
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Document ramdisk troubleshooting.  https://review.openstack.org/5702722:03
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add mapping for gearmand  https://review.openstack.org/5698022:06
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-apply-config: Respect the preset permissions of config files  https://review.openstack.org/5470822:07
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add metadata to configure swift  https://review.openstack.org/5601222:40
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Update swift element to install from source  https://review.openstack.org/5600622:40
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use swift as a backend to glance  https://review.openstack.org/5600722:41
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use swift to back glance in the overcloud  https://review.openstack.org/5601122:41
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-collect-config: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/5585723:02
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-apply-config: Add new type for swiftdevices  https://review.openstack.org/5698323:02
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lifelessdkehn: jog0: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54308/23:11
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openstackgerritripal-nathuji proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix issue with Ubuntu grub pre-install step for ARM  https://review.openstack.org/5706423:27
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jog0lifeless: for that patch,  I am getting it passing again23:33
jog0unless you are doing that aswell23:34
jog0also if you thought nova was slow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54089/23:34
jog0for review time23:34
lifelessjog0: cool, I"m not - dkehn was saying there was confusion about some stuff so I was being explicit abuot what I'd put up23:40
lifelessjog0: thats not slow - its less than a month23:41
jog0lifeless: I can't tell if your trolling or not23:41
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lifelessjog0: vs nova? Serious.23:41
lifelesshttp://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/nova-openreviews.html23:41
lifelessongest waiting reviews (based on oldest rev without -1 or -2):23:41
lifeless    49 days, 9 hours, 37 minutes https://review.openstack.org/46062 (Catch exception while building due to instance being deleted)23:41
jog0for the record I am in no rush for that patch, but its a one liner23:41
jog0non-code23:41
lifelesstrue23:42
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* jog0 sometimes things no one else looks at the openstack logs23:54
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lifelessjog0: channel ?23:56
jog0well if TripleO is consuming all of openstack ... its slightly related  but yeah23:57
clarkbjog0: pretty sure its just you and sdague then sometimes infra23:58
jog0sigh23:59

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