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| mordred | devananda: that's just terrifying | 01:16 |
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| lifeless | devananda: for packaging ironic stuff; pbr should be all you need | 01:21 |
| lifeless | devananda: or do you mean Debian packages? | 01:21 |
| devananda | lifeless: got it taken care of. thx! | 01:21 |
| lifeless | kk | 01:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jun Jie Nan proposed a change to openstack/os-apply-config: Check file existence before loading it and check errors https://review.openstack.org/60466 | 02:08 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: you know one reason I'm not reviewing tripleo as much is that heat is typically about a day behind tripleo.. and I start at oldest review first... so I barely ever get to the tripleo queue. | 02:36 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: this is why I don't use a consolidated view | 02:40 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I open the 15 or so projects I review in tabs | 02:40 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: do two reviews in each, maybe a couple more for tripleo projects; close the tabs and move on. | 02:41 |
| tzumainn | lifeless, thanks for the comments on the tuskar requirements; apologies if my return questions seem like they should have obvious answers, but I figure it's better to clear up potential confusion sooner rather than later | 02:46 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: hm | 02:58 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: so more of a fairness queue than FIFO | 02:58 |
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| lifeless | tzumainn: my pleasure; will reply either a bit later tonight or my Monday | 04:43 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: if the amount of reviews to do in heat exceeds your capacity, you'll end up reviewing huge amounts there, and none of anything else | 04:44 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: so at some point, any sufficiently busy project can consume one entire reviewer; leading to siloing etc | 04:44 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I think its better to set a quota in each area of interest and ensure they all get that much, then choose for any excess time where to spend it | 04:45 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: OTOH I'm doing perhaps a little too much reviewing | 04:45 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: http://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/all-reviewers-90.txt | 04:45 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: yeah I think you're completely right. | 04:45 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I'm 7th.. so... | 04:46 |
| lifeless | yeah, but 60% of the reviews I'm doing - you're much safer :) | 04:46 |
| SpamapS | :) | 04:46 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: did you have a poke at the rebuild series ? | 04:53 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I opened them all up in tabs. That is all. Waiting until Oliver goes to sleep and then I intend to poke them as hard as they'll let me. | 04:55 |
| SpamapS | just don't make me read anymore email | 04:55 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: ok, don't look at the one from me :P | 05:16 |
| lifeless | </troll> | 05:16 |
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| rpodolyaka1 | morning | 07:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use openstack.common Nova rpc modules. https://review.openstack.org/60672 | 15:42 |
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| mordred | lifeless: have you ever considered taking os-svc-* and putting it into a separately installable thing? seems useful outside of tie | 15:48 |
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| SpamapS | mordred: I agree with that and was thinking the same thing | 16:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Switch quantum -> neutron in the README.md https://review.openstack.org/60679 | 16:18 |
| SpamapS | mordred: though the upstart bit I want to put in upstart as actual C code to manage disable/enable | 16:18 |
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| mordred | SpamapS: well, yeah | 18:04 |
| SpamapS | mordred: I wonder if it would be useful as something to enhance pypi packaging. | 18:05 |
| mordred | aroo? | 18:06 |
| SpamapS | mordred: like a bundle of information that helps pip install services. | 18:06 |
| SpamapS | express the command, give it a template like "user to run as" and "where to put data" and then pip install can DTRT the same way we do. | 18:07 |
| SpamapS | just riffing really | 18:07 |
| SpamapS | it might not be _that_ generic. | 18:07 |
| SpamapS | anyway, have to run | 18:07 |
| mordred | hrm | 18:08 |
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| SpamapS | your brainhole is my ideadump | 18:09 |
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| lifeless | mordred: so I think there is a useful backpressure to saying 'do folk need a genuine new thing' | 20:26 |
| lifeless | mordred: there are already init system abstractors | 20:26 |
| lifeless | perhaps we should be using one | 20:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Remove dup firewall_driver when using bm driver. https://review.openstack.org/60691 | 20:31 |
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| mordred | lifeless: I could see that too | 23:30 |
| mordred | guess I'm saying, there's this thing we use and like - perhaps people want it - OR - if they don't, because they have one, maybe we should love what they love | 23:31 |
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