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| lifeless | SpamapS: hey | 01:28 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: I'm a little confused why that fedora fix uses /mnt/state for the client sock | 01:30 |
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| dkehn | lifeless: u around | 02:11 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: eh, it doesn't anymore? | 02:42 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: it uses /var/run | 02:42 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: just like Ubuntu. | 02:42 |
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| SpamapS | https://github.com/drkjam/netaddr/issues/57 closed.. woot | 03:41 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: did I misinterpret it? | 03:46 |
| lifeless | dkehn: hi | 03:46 |
| dkehn | lifeless: hi | 03:46 |
| dkehn | lifeless: have time for a call to talk about the ironic implementation | 03:47 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: ah I misread the commit discussion, nvm me:) | 03:47 |
| lifeless | dkehn: I can chat on IRC, don't have good enough link for voice here | 03:47 |
| lifeless | dkehn: (at LCA) | 03:47 |
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| dkehn | lifeless: ok, deva drop a quick note that that patcvh should be small, which is a relative term, but through our discussion with the ironic folks not sure where that was going | 03:48 |
| lifeless | dkehn: 10-20 lines | 03:49 |
| dkehn | lifeless: what was conveyed was that they would need something similiar to allocate_network in the nova side only in the ironic side | 03:49 |
| dkehn | so who creating the port | 03:49 |
| lifeless | nova | 03:49 |
| lifeless | exactly as for nova baremetal, just without the dhcp options set. | 03:50 |
| lifeless | ironic only updates the dhcp options for the port, for the pxe driver | 03:50 |
| dkehn | here's the confusion they indicated that nova would not be there? | 03:50 |
| lifeless | who did? | 03:50 |
| dkehn | devananda: and NobodyCam | 03:50 |
| dkehn | so if nova is there then why do they need this at all | 03:50 |
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| lifeless | because the responsible TFTP server moves around when ironic conductors fail | 03:51 |
| lifeless | so the port needs to be updated | 03:51 |
| lifeless | port(s) | 03:51 |
| dkehn | ok, so basically they are just changing the options on the port not rebuilding it | 03:51 |
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| dkehn | correct?? | 03:51 |
| lifeless | correct | 03:52 |
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| dkehn | so ok, just a port_update so to speck\ | 03:52 |
| lifeless | yup | 03:52 |
| dkehn | s/speck/speak | 03:52 |
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| dkehn | jesus, was that mis conveied | 03:53 |
| lifeless | the API call from nova -> Ironic needs to supply a list of ports | 03:53 |
| dkehn | yes that would about 20 lines | 03:53 |
| lifeless | Ironic needs to set the pxe options for each port to tftp boot from itself | 03:53 |
| lifeless | and if Ironic fails over to another conductor, it needs to update the port | 03:53 |
| dkehn | so port list then update basically | 03:53 |
| lifeless | If someone uses Ironic without Nova, they can create the Neutron port themselves and then pass it in the API call | 03:53 |
| dkehn | ok, will deal with it tomorrow | 03:54 |
| lifeless | the port ids should be stored in the node-driver json dict | 03:54 |
| lifeless | there's a space for per-node driver info already in Ironic, they should go there | 03:54 |
| lifeless | dkehn: cool | 03:54 |
| lifeless | devananda: ^ | 03:54 |
| dkehn | k | 03:54 |
| dkehn | thanks for the cvlarification, will talk to them tomorrow , if there still any confusion will drag you in, and It was basically done, oh well | 03:55 |
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| dkehn | lifeless: awhile ago you were talking about a tripleo sprint is that going to happen? | 03:57 |
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| lifeless | dkehn: haven't gotten on it yet. will do so asap, thanks for the reminder | 04:20 |
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| rbrady | SpamapS: FYI the function call in the heat template parameter default values works. | 07:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add optional cinder storage node to overcloud https://review.openstack.org/62735 | 07:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add optional cinder storage node to overcloud https://review.openstack.org/62735 | 07:15 |
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| SpamapS | rbrady: very interesting. | 08:17 |
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| rpodolyaka | morning tripleo | 08:21 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: do you need anything from me? | 08:36 |
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| GheRivero | morning all | 08:49 |
| lifeless | GheRivero: morning! | 08:49 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: I put up a preliminary review for nova state preservation | 09:18 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: cool | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add "ci_commands" ssh command filter https://review.openstack.org/64838 | 09:36 |
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| derekh | lifeless: there are 3 patches in that patchset ^^, the ssh key stuff we discussed yesterday is in the 3rd one long with the command filter | 09:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Update to call setup-seed-vm. https://review.openstack.org/65335 | 10:12 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Rename resources directory to nodes https://review.openstack.org/65353 | 10:15 |
| lifeless | derekh: q for you on there | 10:20 |
| derekh | lifeless: replied | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix reference to boot-seed-vm https://review.openstack.org/65451 | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install openvswitch-switch https://review.openstack.org/65453 | 10:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix reference to boot-seed-vm https://review.openstack.org/65451 | 11:13 |
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| jprovazn | derekh: ping | 11:41 |
| derekh | jprovazn: ack | 11:41 |
| jprovazn | derekh: Hi, one q about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65453/1 | 11:42 |
| jprovazn | derekh: openvswitch-switch installs openvswitch server service too | 11:42 |
| jprovazn | derekh: I wonder if it shouldn't be enabled then for systemd systems as it's done in: | 11:42 |
| jprovazn | elements/neutron/install.d/76-neutron | 11:43 |
| derekh | jprovazn: trying to find out where I currently starting it in CI | 11:46 |
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| derekh | jprovazn: Ahh I know why its working for me, I doing CI on ubunut so start is the default | 11:49 |
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| derekh | jprovazn: will enable it | 11:49 |
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| derekh | thanks | 11:49 |
| jprovazn | derekh: cool, one more thing | 11:50 |
| jprovazn | derekh: I wonder if we should/could narrow element-deps - neutron-openvswitch-agent depends both on neutron and on network-utils - both of them install/enable openvswitch service | 11:51 |
| derekh | jpeeler: ya I saw that, and its installed in boot-stack aswell, some of these could be removed but I think we can tackle that in another commit | 11:53 |
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| derekh | opps jprovazn: ^ | 11:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install openvswitch-switch https://review.openstack.org/65453 | 11:55 |
| jprovazn | derekh: ok | 11:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run a virsh command on test env in toci_gate_test.sh https://review.openstack.org/65460 | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Update toci_gate_test.sh to use test_env https://review.openstack.org/61829 | 12:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add "ci_commands" ssh command filter https://review.openstack.org/64838 | 12:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Adding testenv worker wrapper script https://review.openstack.org/61052 | 12:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Derek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run a virsh command on test env in toci_gate_test.sh https://review.openstack.org/65460 | 12:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add Ceilometer parameters for the overcloud https://review.openstack.org/64662 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Remove unneeded /var/run/nova/keys from install https://review.openstack.org/65387 | 13:01 |
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| Ng | morning. ish :) | 13:24 |
| * Ng offsetting his hours some days to assist with kid things | 13:25 | |
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| kpavel | Hello tripleo. I been following slides from http://www.slideshare.net/devananda1/ods-havana-provisioning-bare-metal-with-open-stack to provision a baremetal node. I'm stack at the point that the node booted, but it stays in initramfs shell and in nova it hangs in the "Build" state forever. The baremetal-helper never triggered. Can somebody point me to some betterguide? | 14:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomas Sedovic proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add Ceilometer elements https://review.openstack.org/64663 | 14:15 |
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| jdob | slagle: ping | 14:45 |
| slagle | jdob: pong | 14:46 |
| jdob | slagle: can you point me towards the tripleo-puppet-elements repo? | 14:47 |
| slagle | jdob: sure, https://github.com/agroup/tripleo-puppet-elements | 14:47 |
| jdob | thanks | 14:48 |
| slagle | the puppet modules themselves are rather thin. they just use the packstack puppet modules | 14:49 |
| slagle | which themselves use the openstack puppet modules | 14:49 |
| jdob | thats probably a good thing for my purposes, I'm not hugely familiar with puppet, so thin will be easier to grok | 14:49 |
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| jprovazn | derekh: thanks for updating the mysql patch yesterday | 15:15 |
| derekh | jprovazn: no prob | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Fix developer documentation https://review.openstack.org/65332 | 15:27 |
| GheRivero | rbrady: regarding https://review.openstack.org/62735, is there any reason why you no longer include the file block-storage.yaml in the patch? | 15:30 |
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| GheRivero | :) | 15:31 |
| rbrady | GheRivero: was just an oversight | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Jones proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add element to store sshd keys on ephemeral. https://review.openstack.org/65492 | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: A dialog for registering nodes https://review.openstack.org/60531 | 16:05 |
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| SpamapS | gooooood morning | 16:14 |
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| Ng | hey SpamapS | 16:17 |
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| SpamapS | Ng: howdy! | 16:26 |
| * Ng on the persistent train | 16:27 | |
| Ng | threw some stuff against the wall for ssh host keys, building with it to see what sticks :) | 16:28 |
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| SpamapS | Ng: cool. :) | 16:37 |
| SpamapS | Ng: /etc is going to be a rats nest of /mnt/state symlinks I think. :_P | 16:37 |
| Ng | yep | 16:37 |
| SpamapS | have always thought though that certs/keys/etc should not be in /etc as they are data not config | 16:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Remove chassis from node creation https://review.openstack.org/65480 | 16:43 |
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| Ng | SpamapS: yeah that's a fairly reasonable position, but I suspect that train has irrevocably sailed ;) | 16:50 |
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| SpamapS | oh wow | 17:07 |
| SpamapS | hahaha | 17:07 |
| SpamapS | poast-configure.d | 17:07 |
| SpamapS | poached scripts anyone :-P | 17:08 |
| * derekh prefers his scripts fried | 17:08 | |
| openstackgerrit | Clint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Make nova preserve state in /mnt/state https://review.openstack.org/65389 | 17:09 |
| SpamapS | suvee'd scripts are o-k but I don't have that kind of time | 17:09 |
| slagle | i was hoping we could add a toast-configure.d actually :) | 17:10 |
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| SpamapS | inevitably somebody from australia will want a configuration option for vegemite and then some poor user will report a bug about vomitting | 17:20 |
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| jog0 | SpamapS: so I have been catching up on that fun ML thread of yours: packages vs etc. | 17:35 |
| jog0 | SpamapS: one thing I haven't seen brought up much on the use packages to build images side is: why not have distros create golden images themselves? | 17:35 |
| jog0 | if I am going through the effort of using packages from a distro I just want them to golden image-ify them for me | 17:36 |
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| SpamapS | jog0: that is all downstream stuff. | 17:46 |
| SpamapS | jog0: Agreed, they probably should. | 17:46 |
| jog0 | SpamapS: agreed, its downstream but the package people aren't thinking of things that way | 17:46 |
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| SpamapS | jog0: right, and my argument is downstream should just make images _without bothering to package things_. | 17:56 |
| SpamapS | jog0: but my argument is countered to "but we want to package things" so.. package away :) | 17:56 |
| jog0 | SpamapS: yeah | 17:56 |
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| Ng | jog0: a distro golden image is useless if you need to vary it in some site-specific way | 18:18 |
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| Ng | also I'm not sure the distros will want to produce images for all possible combinations of t-i-e elements | 18:19 |
| Ng | so they'd probably do crazy all-in-one images | 18:19 |
| jog0 | Ng: no, but they wouldn't want to support all possible combinations of t-i-e elements either | 18:19 |
| jog0 | and if I was paying for packages I wouldn't want to build my own golden image | 18:20 |
| Ng | (I'm not opposed to distro golden tripleo images, I'm just suggesting that they might not actually be super useful) | 18:20 |
| jog0 | Ng: right, I'm just not sure there is agood case where they wouldn't be useful | 18:21 |
| Ng | jog0: the very second that you want to install any piece of software that isn't in the distro image | 18:23 |
| jog0 | why would I do that? | 18:23 |
| jog0 | now I am doing something my distro hasn't blessed | 18:24 |
| Ng | jog0: to pick a random example, you're probably going to want to have some agent software installed for whatever monitoring system you use | 18:24 |
| jog0 | distro here equals paying support for distro to me | 18:24 |
| Ng | maybe that's nagios, maybe you're small and it's munin, maybe it's some horrible java based enterprise crap | 18:25 |
| jog0 | sure then I may want to build my own image but then Idon't get full support from distro that I just paid | 18:25 |
| jog0 | so I am doing something dumb | 18:25 |
| Ng | jog0: I bet you'll find that anyone who is doing this as anything other than a complete clean room implementation, has at least one site-specific thing they will want to integrate | 18:26 |
| Ng | but I have no numbers for that :) | 18:26 |
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| jog0 | perhaps but not on all images I hope. I think distros should treat golden images as packages for this type of stuff | 18:26 |
| jog0 | so you can build your own package but ... good luck. if you want our support use our images | 18:27 |
| Ng | anywho, I do not think that distro images would be awful, if nothing else it would let people run up a clean-room implementation to get used to how everything works, before they take on the additional pain of a build/test feedback loop for rolling their own images | 18:27 |
| jog0 | roll there own to me means they aren't paying a distro for this stuff | 18:28 |
| jog0 | which good for them but, now the distro can't say yes that image will work anymore | 18:28 |
| jog0 | Ng: i'm just saying distros should prefer there customers use there golden images vs there packages. | 18:30 |
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| Ng | jog0: I disagree, but I also don't have to make that decision, because I'm not a distro, so they can go nuts :D | 19:38 |
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| Ng | more accurate commit msg :) | 19:48 |
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| Ng | hmm | 21:38 |
| Ng | this persistent stuff is more tricky than I suspected | 21:38 |
| * Ng ponders the sanity of sedding ssh's postinst, since it has the host key paths hardcoded in it | 21:39 | |
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| Ng | wait what | 21:43 |
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| Ng | host key generation in *postinst*? :o | 21:43 |
| Ng | it's a first boot thing! | 21:43 |
| Ng | good good, cloud-init is on the case :) | 21:46 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install openvswitch-switch https://review.openstack.org/65453 | 21:47 |
| SpamapS | Ng: This is one of those hard to change the path things | 22:01 |
| SpamapS | Ng: so probably a register-state-path --leave-symlink is in order | 22:02 |
| Ng | SpamapS: I initially thought I'd avoid a symlink in case it caused weirdness, but I'm starting to like it more than sedding sshd_config and cloud-init's cc_ssh.py | 22:02 |
| Ng | editing packaged non-data/config files seems extremely wrong | 22:03 |
| Ng | be interesting to see if creating the dangling symlinks during the build, causes the keys not to get generated at first boot :) | 22:04 |
| SpamapS | Ng: IMO you can't really sed that one.. 99% of the time I think if we're going to edit configs.. we need to generate them. | 22:04 |
| SpamapS | Ng: --leave-symlink doesn't create the symlink until orc | 22:04 |
| Ng | oh nice | 22:04 |
| SpamapS | oh wait | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | damn it does do it at image build time | 22:05 |
| SpamapS | but.. perhaps it shouldn't | 22:05 |
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| SpamapS | Ng: /etc/ssh can be a whole state path actually. | 22:07 |
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| SpamapS | Ng: but IMO that puts us right back in "we must generate the configs" | 22:08 |
| Ng | SpamapS: seems a bit overkill | 22:09 |
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| SpamapS | Ng: well as I said before.. I think the SSH keys are data, not config, and should be in /var/lib anyway... | 22:17 |
| SpamapS | Ng: this may be one of the rare cases where sed is more appropriate. I just don't want to do it lightly. | 22:19 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: the symlink has to be made at build time | 22:21 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: cause / readonly | 22:21 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: right so that means we can really only do /etc/ssh as a symlink .. and that means we are now responsible for the entire contents. | 22:23 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: which means it is simpler to not have a symlink, and edit the config file | 22:23 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: why can we not do a couple of separate symlinks, for arguments sake? | 22:29 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I'm worried that dangling symlink will not be handled right. | 22:29 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: ok | 22:30 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: just like oac would replace it with a real file (or at least, try and fail) cloud-init may also do something like that. | 22:31 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: ok, so I guess try and find out is the only answer? | 22:32 |
| lifeless | I'm not objecting to sed btw, just curious | 22:32 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I think that may be haphazard. I feel like --leave-symlink is for situations where having the symlink is less complex than rewriting the configs | 22:34 |
| lifeless | yes | 22:34 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: in this case, perhaps a sed to set the config file path is the simplest solution. | 22:34 |
| lifeless | its for software we can't work well with | 22:34 |
| lifeless | e.g. compiled in paths, well known things | 22:34 |
| SpamapS | also perhaps we should open bugs against debian/ubuntu/fedora to move the keys to /var/lib .. but I don't expect that to have legs :-P | 22:35 |
| lifeless | one battle at a time ;) | 22:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Updates cinder element https://review.openstack.org/62693 | 22:37 |
| SpamapS | ok.. time to pack for CO | 22:37 |
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