Wednesday, 2014-01-15

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lifelessruhroh01:27
lifelesstrouble with cd-undercloud network again.01:27
lifelessstuff all traffic, no sign of foul play that I can see01:27
lifelesssome git pulls in the background01:28
lifelesshttp-remote running at the time01:29
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Test environment worker template.  https://review.openstack.org/5859602:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use wait condition when waiting for undercloud  https://review.openstack.org/6660002:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Preserve USE_CACHE value in devtest_setup.sh  https://review.openstack.org/6660102:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Cleanup docs  https://review.openstack.org/6660202:30
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Revert "Preserve USE_CACHE value in devtest_setup.sh"  https://review.openstack.org/6674702:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Adding testenv worker wrapper script  https://review.openstack.org/6105202:43
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Fix some nitpicks in testenv-work element README  https://review.openstack.org/6659502:43
slaglelifeless: you don't call devtest_setup though, you call devtest with a -c02:46
slagleand then that value is lost when devtest calls devtest_setup02:46
slaglew/o using the pre-existing value02:46
slaglei think anyway :) it's late.02:47
lifelessslagle: ah, I see. I will change it to pass -c02:47
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lifelessor02:49
lifelessleave it alone for now :)02:49
lifelesswe'll need to refactor things for scripts we call02:50
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openstackgerritTzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Restructure navigation and rename base directories  https://review.openstack.org/6675203:17
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StevenKBlah, I should have looked harder how to inject my local mirror in before running devtest03:55
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SpamapSStevenK: yeah.. huge difference04:52
StevenKSpamapS: I have 245G of local mirror literally 0.3ms away, and I couldn't work out how to tell devtest that. :-(04:55
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SpamapShttp_proxy= ?05:17
SpamapSStevenK: oh local mirror05:18
SpamapSStevenK: AFAIK, we don't have an easy way to do that yet.05:18
mordredSpamapS, StevenK: local mirror of what? apt? pip?05:24
StevenKmordred: I have a local Ubuntu mirror05:25
mordredSpamapS: if you don't have "please use/inject this apt url" as a thing - it's probably a thing that your corporate overlord would be happy to gain05:25
mordredStevenK: ^^05:25
mordredStevenK: is a full mirror 245G ?05:25
StevenKIt made sense when I was doing a lot of Ubuntu work, and it's sort of handy to keep around.05:25
mordredor is that just historical and stuff05:25
SpamapSmordred: well the debian element I did can also do Ubuntu and that has DIB_DEBIAN_MIRROR ...05:26
StevenKmordred: No, that's Precise, Saucy and Trusty i386 and amd6405:26
mordredStevenK: gotcha05:26
SpamapSthough it also does a few debian specific things so that isn't really awesome.05:26
StevenKA few mirror is ~600G or so05:26
StevenKs/few/full/05:26
mordredI keep feeling like ther shoudl be a better way to do some of those into swift or something05:27
SpamapSStevenK: anyway a DIB_UBUNTU_MIRROR would probably be pretty easy to add to diskimage-builder05:27
StevenKDaily churn is usually a few gigabytes -- but I have free off-peak downloads.05:27
SpamapSmordred: somebody did do an Ubuntu mirror in HP cloud's swift..05:27
SpamapSimbrandon on IRC05:27
StevenKSpamapS: That doesn't seem like the full thing though. Sure, DIB_UBUNTU_MIRROR will fix the local mirror, but it also doesn't allow you to inject random APT sources.05:29
StevenK(As well as running apt-key to silence things)05:30
SpamapSStevenK: injecting random apt sources is easier05:31
SpamapSStevenK: add an element that installs a file in /etc/apt/sources.d05:31
mordredyah05:31
mordredit's overriding the main repo that's the trick05:31
StevenKSpamapS: And runs apt-key?05:31
StevenKIt's easy to dump a PPA into sources.list.d, but you can't install it without the key, or APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated/--allow-unauthenticated05:33
SpamapSStevenK: yes all of that05:37
SpamapSStevenK: elements are easy. :)05:37
SpamapSStevenK: (and yes I did just invoke Juju's language, just for you)05:37
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mordredjuju has language?05:48
SpamapSmordred: yes, charms.. bundles.. its all very technical05:51
lifelessoh look peoples06:16
lifelesshmm, I have a 500G quota now06:18
lifelessI should be able to step up to a full mirror06:18
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add support for Debian  https://review.openstack.org/6613906:41
openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow adding packages to debootstrap  https://review.openstack.org/6643006:41
openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add debian-upstart for experimenting with upstart  https://review.openstack.org/6643106:41
lifelessSpamapS: why not use james brobergers images?06:48
lifelessSpamapS: or rather, did you consider using them?06:48
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SpamapSlifeless: I did, tried them. Forget where it fell apart.06:59
SpamapSlifeless: I also tried to use the openstack-debian-images script in sid.. but it doesn't let you stop between debootstrap, customizing, and building qcow207:00
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SpamapSlifeless: oh wait, no I never tried any images from James. Where are they published?07:06
StevenKHe gave a talk at LCA about Debian on AWS, the slides might tell you.07:08
SpamapSI don't see anywhere he says "and here are the openstack images"07:11
StevenKSpamapS: https://github.com/andsens/build-debian-cloud07:12
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SpamapSah .. would help if wiki.debian.org would stop black listing my IP range07:15
SpamapSStevenK: thanks. That I had.. and I still don't see any OpenStack images.07:21
StevenKThey seem to care more about EC2. But you can build one07:22
SpamapSyeah, so I went through that script.. and same problem..07:22
StevenKHaha07:23
SpamapSnote.. 34 lines.. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66139/5/elements/debian/root.d/08-debootstrap ... this isn't rocket science07:23
SpamapSand debian has lent itself to building images well before cloud wanted images07:23
lifelessso I talked with him @ LCA07:25
lifelesshe's planning on making the images be more widely applicable07:25
lifelessanyhow, its not a biggy, just seems like something we could lean on rather than do ourselves07:29
lifelesssince cache invalidation is hard, and debootstrap is slow07:29
StevenKPft. Is not.07:30
StevenKRun it with a local mirror07:30
SpamapSlifeless: yeah the images aren't existing yet.. but perhaps we could push build-debian-cloud to work the way we want.07:30
lifelessStevenK: it's slow because dpkg is slow07:30
SpamapSlifeless: acl apt_files urlpath_regex dists/.*/(Release|Packages)07:30
lifelessSpamapS: yes07:30
SpamapSno_cache deny apt_files07:30
lifelessdpkg, not apt07:31
SpamapSthats the only way unstable works with any reliability unfortunately.07:31
SpamapSlifeless: eatmydata makes dpkg fast :)07:31
lifelessSpamapS: faster, not as fast as tar07:31
SpamapSyeah .. hence.. debootstrap once.. untar many :)07:31
lifelessSpamapS: right, and thus cache invalidation :)07:32
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SpamapSlifeless: yeah... so thats why I made it only do caching with --offline07:33
lifelessah07:33
lifelesshadn't read it :)07:33
SpamapSTrying not to spend any time on it. Really. :)07:34
StevenKSpamapS: Hm, I think maybe we want DIB_DISTRIBUTION_MIRROR or something07:34
SpamapSStevenK: yeah perhaps we should standardize that07:35
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StevenKSpamapS: Right, if I'm about to throw in a root.d into ubuntu to rewrite sources.list if it's -n07:35
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StevenKMeetup, you're making it very hard for me to even like you ...07:37
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add "ci_commands" ssh command filter  https://review.openstack.org/6483807:56
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add "ci_commands" ssh command filter  https://review.openstack.org/6483808:00
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rpodolyakamorning tripleo08:06
lifelessmorning rpodolyaka08:07
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add "ci_commands" ssh command filter  https://review.openstack.org/6483808:08
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Update toci_gate_test.sh to use the broker.  https://review.openstack.org/6182908:14
jprovaznlifeless: Hi, do you have time for one question about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61374/ ?08:22
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lifelessjprovazn: if you ask it... ;)08:34
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jprovaznlifeless: great, in last version I've updated the patchset and each element "registers" what proxy_port and port it uses - this turned out to be a bad idea because as SpamapS yesterday pointed out there can be proxy-only nodes (where services are not running"08:36
jprovaznlifeless: I can think of 2 ways how proxy ports should be set:08:36
jprovazn1) in heat template - then it's flixible, disadvantage is that knowledge of proxy port will then be known after os-collect-config fetches heat metadata08:37
jprovazn2) save file with all proxy_ports when creating an image, so mapping wouldn't be customizable, but knowledge of proxy_ports would be known in image create time08:39
jprovaznlifeless: what are your thoughts about best place for proxy ports definition?08:40
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lifelessjprovazn: it has to be dynamic08:52
lifelessjprovazn: heat is entirely the right place for it for now08:53
jprovaznlifeless: ok, thanks08:53
lifelessjprovazn: long term in principle we have an API (e.g. LBaaS) that we consume, but for now we want it simple and straight forward.08:53
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GheRiveromorning all09:12
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Restructure navigation and rename base directories  https://review.openstack.org/6675209:14
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lsmola_marios: ping09:24
marioslsmola_: hey09:25
lsmola_marios: hello09:25
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lsmola_marios: regarding the yesterday question about using merge.py09:25
lsmola_marios: seems like it would be smarter to stick with it for I09:25
marioslsmola_: yes i think so - at least there is nothing else available *now*09:26
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lsmola_marios: although as I've talked with SpamapS, we could rewrite it to HOT, cause all the stuff we need should be finished soon09:26
lsmola_marios: though given we have only 6weeks left and not enough resources ...09:26
marioslsmola_: sounds to me that should be in parallel09:26
marioslsmola_: yes, not for Icehouse definitely not enough time for something not _that_ critical atm09:27
lsmola_marios: could be, though I have no idea who will do it, as there are more pressing matters for I deadline09:27
lsmola_marios: exactly09:27
marioslsmola_: so yeah, after I, someone picks it up (maybe me if it all works ok enough with merge)09:28
lsmola_marios: ok so will you be working on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52045/6 ?09:28
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lsmola_marios: that should deliver how is the tripleo currently workng with heat right?09:28
marioslsmola_: yes, finally almost out of the rabbit hole (making merge installable, invokeable etc)09:28
lsmola_marios: excellent09:29
lsmola_marios: are you working on that fulltime? or there are some other pressing matters?09:29
lsmola_marios: cause this part is probably most important for Tuskar-UI now09:29
marioslsmola_: working on other things also, you need hands eyes on soemthing?09:29
marioslsmola_: oh i see, thanks for the heads up, finish off some tests for a  neutron review and then work on that09:30
lsmola_marios: ok09:30
lsmola_marios: so if you need help with anything just ask09:30
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lsmola_marios: we will help you with anything, so you have time for the Heat stuff09:31
lsmola_marios: btw. how far do you thing it is?09:31
lsmola_marios: maybe I2 ? :-)09:31
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marioslsmola_: one thing you can help with is to work out the q in commit message if you have time ;)09:31
derekhlifeless: From the meeting logs I see the undercloud network was back working again during meeting, it seem to be busted again, I can't really get enough access to dubug anything09:32
lsmola_marios: also we plan to deploy some storage nodes (cinder, swift), is there some plan to include it?09:32
lsmola_marios: I saw only swift template09:32
lifelessderekh: I'm bounced into it ok right now09:32
lifelessderekh: whats your source IP address ?09:32
marioslsmola_: well, they are definitely needed but don't know who is working on that. they would need to be added to tripleo-heat-templates09:33
derekhlifeless: 93.107.239.1909:33
lifelessderekh: ok, am tcpdumping09:33
lifelessderekh: try sshing to cd-undercloud.tripleo.org09:33
derekhlifeless: command run09:33
derekhwaiting for prompt09:34
derekhlifeless: ssh: connect to host cd-undercloud.tripleo.org port 22: Connection timed out09:34
lsmola_marios: I see the swift template only09:34
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lifelessderekh: no traffic seen09:34
derekhlifeless: running again09:35
lifelessI'm seeing traffic now09:35
marioslsmola_: 09:33 < marios> lsmola_: well, they are definitely needed but don't know who is working on that. they  would need to be added to tripleo-heat-templates09:35
derekhlifeless: this time from the correct source IP09:35
lifelessderekh: hah :)09:35
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lsmola_marios: ok09:35
derekhok, so when I hit return at the prompt, sometimes it reacts with a small delay, others the delay is a few minutes09:36
lsmola_marios: ok I will try to figure out how to import the merge.py09:36
lifelessderekh: I'm seeing what look like retransmits09:36
lsmola_marios: probably by doing a package from the whole thing?09:36
lsmola_marios: don't see any other clean way09:36
marioslsmola_: it is a package09:37
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lsmola_marios: also the shadower will be working on heat, so he can help you with things09:37
marioslsmola_: thats one of the reasons this takes so long, had to make that stuff happen first (tripleo heat templates package, make merge.py invokable)09:37
lsmola_marios: ok, and you need to point to github master because it wasn't released?09:38
derekhlifeless: so packets going missing? prompt froozen for the last minute or so09:38
lifeless09:36:59.385795 IP 93.107.239.19.33172 > 138.35.77.3.ssh: Flags [.], ack 12368, win 352, options [nop,nop,TS val 79246720 ecr 1023542272], length 009:39
lifeless09:36:59.442669 IP 93.107.239.19.33172 > 138.35.77.3.ssh: Flags [.], ack 12416, win 352, options [nop,nop,TS val 79246776 ecr 1023542296], length 009:39
lifeless09:36:59.443582 IP 93.107.239.19.33172 > 138.35.77.3.ssh: Flags [.], ack 12976, win 348, options [nop,nop,TS val 79246776 ecr 1023542297], length 009:39
lifeless09:36:59.445322 IP 93.107.239.19.33172 > 138.35.77.3.ssh: Flags [.], ack 13120, win 347, options [nop,nop,TS val 79246780 ecr 1023542297], length 009:39
lifelessno reply seen09:39
lifelesswe're in promiscuous mode09:39
lifelessI wonder if there is a rogue .3 address out there09:39
derekhlifeless: you meant those packets might be going to a different MAC ?09:41
lifelessyah09:42
derekhtheres a flag to show the MAC I think09:42
mariosshadower: hey tomas - do you have time for quick call/chat this afternoon - like 1730 CET09:42
lifelesstell me when you get a response09:42
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derekhlifeless: responded09:42
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shadowermarios: yea, sure09:43
mariosshadower: thanks mate will be quick, just to sync up a bit about tuskar & ui, heat, for icehouse (like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62042/ <--how do we make this happen, what's needed where in terms of heat templates in tht etc)09:44
marioslsmola_: ^^^09:44
mariosshadower: sorry, wrong review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52045/609:45
derekhlifeless: its responding OK ATM09:45
lifelessok tell me when it goes south09:45
derekhlifeless: appears to be gone now09:47
shadowermarios: yup. I'll have a look09:47
lsmola_shadower: marios excellent guys09:48
lsmola_shadower: marios we might make the deadline :-D09:48
shadowermarios: so we're sticking with merge.py for teh time being, right?09:48
mariosshadower: haven't heard of any available alternative at the moment. of course we should always be weary of investing any more into the actual script functionality.09:50
derekhlifeless: and we're back09:50
mariosshadower: obviously once the required bits are in place on heat side we dump it09:50
shadowermarios: that's what I meant -- so that's not happening any time soon, right? (I saw you ask that question yesterday but didn't see the answers)09:51
derekhbrb09:51
mariosshadower: i don't think there were any. which perhaps is indicative of the fact that _stuff_ isn't ready yet (otherwise someone would be shouting about it am sure)09:52
lifelessderekh: I don't *think* its a bad arp, though not 100% sure09:52
shadowerlifeless: do we track what's missing in heat to drop merge.py or is it all just in SpamapS' head?09:53
lifelessshadower: there isn't a precise spec written up AFAIK09:53
shadowerlifeless: thanks, would be cool to put it down somewhere tho09:53
shadowerI'll ask Clint09:53
mariosshadower: there was an interesting reply on a recent thread, sec09:53
rlandyderekh: hi .. I have some code/questions for you to look at when you have a chance.  What's the preferred mode of pre-review? Sending you pasted link as a start.09:53
lifelessrlandy: commit; push up; mark work in progress09:55
mariosshadower: ah, not directly related to how tuskar generates the heat template, but is in the 'needs to happen in heat' bucket http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024226.html09:56
shadowermarios: thanks09:56
rlandylifeless: ok , thanks09:57
lsmola_shadower: ^^ that is part of that, another important part is hot-software-config09:58
lsmola_shadower: all the things fro the update to HOT should be prepared soon, but given we have only 6 weeks, it is not worth it09:59
lsmola_shadower: SpamapS told me that we could do it pretty quickly it we tried :-)09:59
shadowerlsmola_: yea, all I'm saying is, would be good to have it all written down so we know what to tackle once we decide to09:59
lsmola_shadower: so beginning of J sounds nice to me for upgrading to HOT :-D10:00
mariosshadower: +110:00
lsmola_shadower: yes that is very reasonable10:00
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lifelessderekh: I'm seeing glitches on a different host too atm10:02
lifelessderekh: I reckon its network, not host.10:02
lifelessNg: btw did you see the new trello card just for you ? :)10:03
derekhrlandy: yup, push it up to gerrit and mark as in progress, that script is pretty much what I was talking about, although coincidentally others started looking at this yesterday, submit a patch that just adds the script once it merges we can move the rules10:03
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derekhlifeless: ok, so I need to wait it out, I'm guessing you report internaly, once its sorted I want to set up some uptodate test envs with the most recient merges and will try to use them with the ci-overcloud10:07
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679010:08
lifelessNg: derekh: https://trello.com/c/j8B9HGWQ/66-network-flake10:08
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lifelessNg: can you raise the JIRA ticket etc?10:12
derekhlifeless: thanks10:18
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679010:41
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lifelessderekh: hey so10:49
lifelessderekh: we need a script for the te servers to ask neutron for an IP address for the server itself10:50
lifelessderekh: using the PublicInterface MAC10:50
lifelessderekh: as an additional IP10:50
lifelessderekh: otherwise the te server won't be able to contact the broker10:50
lifelessderekh: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-test-cluster line 15110:51
lifelessderekh: I'll probably get that done tomorrow10:52
derekhlifeless: ok, if I can get access to the rack again I'll see if I can figure it out, just can't try much out here at the moment cause I don't have the various clouds setup10:54
lifelesskk10:54
lifelessderekh: can you ssh to  ssh ubuntu@138.35.77.19 ?10:54
lifelessI spawned it as infra, to run a broker; I can add your ssh key in a sec10:55
derekhcan hit it, Permission denied (publickey).10:55
lifelesstry now10:55
lifelessyou should be able to bounce from there to internal things10:56
derekhlifeless: im in10:56
lifelesswith some greater success; I hope.10:56
derekhlifeless: ok, cool10:56
lifelessit's eth1 is on the tripleo-bm-test network10:56
lifelesswhich is the one the te environments should be requesting access10:56
lifelessgnight10:57
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derekhlifeless: I'm in, seems ok so far10:57
derekhlifeless: seems snappier10:57
derekhlifeless: gnight10:57
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Refresh openstack-tools virtualenv every time  https://review.openstack.org/6672711:30
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lsmola_SpamapS: hello11:37
lsmola_SpamapS: are you around?11:37
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lsmola_devananda: hello, are you around?12:22
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679012:30
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devanandalsmola_: hi! in Perth airport for a bit longer. what's up?12:54
lsmola_devananda: hello12:54
lsmola_devananda: just wanted to ask about the status on putting ironic to devtest12:54
devanandalsmola_: there are some patches up taht get it closer12:55
lsmola_devananda: are you planing to put there all of this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic  'Using Disk Image Builder' section  ??12:55
devanandalsmola_: well. yes and no12:55
devanandalsmola_: with the patches taht i have up, that section will become about 3 steps, i think12:56
lsmola_devananda: ok12:56
devanandabasically, set DIB_REPOLOCATION_nova and DIB_REPOREF_nova, replace nova-baremetal element with nova-ironic in the undercloud image12:57
devanandaand make a different template yaml file12:57
devanandathe latter two could be done with an env toggle, too12:57
devanandaso then it becomes 2 step12:57
lsmola_devananda: right12:57
lsmola_devananda: are you plan this for I2 ?12:58
lsmola_devananda: i am going to test the Ironic now, we need to start to implement it to Tuskar-UI12:58
devanandalsmola_: it's not critical for ironic's progress, and i'm not sure what tripleo's milestone goals re (if any)12:58
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devanandalsmola_: but it'd certainly be nice to have12:59
devanandaand ironic is at a point now (IMNSHO) that it's ready for this12:59
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lsmola_devananda: hm12:59
lsmola_devananda: so would you need help with something?12:59
lsmola_devananda: I believe having Ironic is critical for Tuskar13:00
lsmola_devananda: so it should be important for tripleo too I guess :-)13:00
devanandalsmola_: i agree with that. it's also critical for tripleo13:00
devanandanova-baremetal was sufficient to prove the basis of tripleo, but it's not sustainable // there's a lot taht tripleo and tuskar want to do which nova-baremetal can't13:01
devanandalsmola_: so ironic team is working as quickly as we can to get it ready. help is, of course, appreciated :)13:01
lsmola_devananda: ok, ifarkas is working on Ironic and Tripleo, so can help you with anything so we can make this happen13:02
lsmola_devananda: we are dropping support of nova-baremetal from tuskar13:03
lsmola_devananda: so we will depend on Ironic13:03
lsmola_devananda: hope does it sound like smart thing to do? :-)13:04
devanandalsmola_: hmm. is tuskar in incubation?13:04
lsmola_devananda: yes, as tripleo13:04
devanandalsmola_: tripleo is a program. it's not in incubation13:04
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lsmola_devananda: I meant as all projects under tripleo13:05
devanandathey're not in incubation13:05
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lsmola_devananda: no? I thought so13:05
lsmola_devananda: do you have some bp tracking the Ironic integration?13:06
lsmola_devananda: I mean i thought that all tripleo projects are under incubation13:07
lsmola_devananda: would be nice to track somewhere, what is missing for Ironic to be in devtest13:08
devanandaNobodyCam: if you have time, think you could toss something up to track ^ t ohelp coordination with tripleo reviewers?13:09
lsmola_devananda: then maybe divide the work to more people, so we have is sooner and we can test it properly in tuskar-UI :-)13:09
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devanandalsmola_: sounsd good. I will be on a plane for next ~24 hours, and then recovering from jetlag :)13:10
lsmola_devananda: ok13:10
devanandalsmola_: our wiki page that you linked above covers it well. like i said, my patches are just moving some of those steps upstream13:10
lsmola_devananda: ok13:10
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lsmola_devananda: thank you :-)13:13
devanandalsmola_: np!13:15
devanandalsmola_: oh, as far as our goals for i2, i3, etc, ljus tlook on launchpad13:15
devanandai mean, as far as ironic itself13:15
lsmola_devananda: ok, great13:15
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Ngmorning13:25
slaglegood morning13:26
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679013:31
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openstackgerritRyan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add optional cinder storage node to overcloud  https://review.openstack.org/6273513:53
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add new neutron-ovs-cleanup element.  https://review.openstack.org/6605813:57
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NgSpamapS: fwiw, the missing os-apply-config thing that ftcjeff saw last night is a bug in setup-clienttools - if we've done anything before (and thus created $BASE/openstack-tools) we don't try and do anything else. If we add a module to the pip install command, stale openstack-tools setups will remain stale. I filed a bug :)14:06
Ng(in case that wasn't noticed. catching up on backscroll atm :)14:06
NgI see you did find it :)14:07
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Nglifeless: I did (see the trello card), will poke at it today14:14
Nglifeless: what's the 66-network-flake one about? is that a traceroute from bastion?14:16
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add iptables rule for Ironic in Fedora  https://review.openstack.org/6661014:24
openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679014:25
openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679014:26
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NobodyCamlsmola_: looking for a BP to track OoO integration?14:31
openstackgerritRonelle Landy proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Script to add iptables rules per element  https://review.openstack.org/6685214:31
lsmola_NobodyCam: integration of Ironic to OoO14:32
NobodyCamya14:32
NobodyCam:)14:32
lsmola_NobodyCam: devtest14:32
lsmola_NobodyCam: yes :-)14:33
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679014:45
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openstackgerritRyan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Remove extra shebang from boot-stack-logs file  https://review.openstack.org/6686414:57
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679014:58
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NobodyCamlsmola_: something like this: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/integration-into-tripleo (will fill out more after a bit of coffee)14:59
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lsmola_NobodyCam: excellent, thank you15:00
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NobodyCam:) /me gets some coffee15:01
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679015:16
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rbradyrlandy: ping15:18
rlandyrbrady: hi15:19
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jprovaznrbrady: check -C param for iptables - an alternative to ".ok" files would be adding rule only of it's not in the chain yet, e.g.:15:29
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jprovazniptables -C INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 35367 -j ACCEPT || iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 35367 -j ACCEPT15:30
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rbradyjprovazn: I'm testing it15:37
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rbradyrlandy: was pinging you about your WIP patch15:38
rbradyrlandy: we might not need an .ok file ^^^15:38
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rlandyrbrady: might not? ... using a check per rule is probably better - agreed15:42
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rbradyrlandy: also, the location /var/run is to be dropped in the near future for something in /mnt/state, maybe that's something for network-utils/install.d/ ?15:48
mariosshadower: hey - am on cimi call that finishesin 35 mins. we can chat then or can skip till tomorrow morning if better for you - lsmola_ ?15:54
rlandyrbrady: ok - if we are getting rid of the .ok file then /var/run should be removed from this change altogether15:55
shadowermarios: tomorrow would be a bit better then if you don't mind15:56
rlandymarios: still on cimi calls?? wow15:56
rbradyrlandy: yep.15:56
mariosrlandy: yup we are still paid up members. just keeping up to date mostly these days though.15:56
mariosrlandy: welcome to join anytime ;)15:56
mariosshadower: yeah sure mate thanks, ping whenever you get it and we take it from there15:58
lsmola_marios: sure I will join to check we are synchronized with UI15:58
lsmola_marios: :-)15:58
mariosshadower: works better for me too, need some away from screen time now ;)15:58
marioslsmola_: thanks15:58
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shadowercool15:59
rlandyrbrady: thanks for looking into the WIP patch ... as a newbie, I appreciate feedback/comments for improvement16:00
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Don't install scripts straight to /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6688116:01
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rbradyrlandy: np16:01
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openstackgerritChris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add Ironic password and service enrollment  https://review.openstack.org/6646016:30
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lsmola_SpamapS: hello, are you around?17:01
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SpamapSlsmola_: I am, whats up?17:04
lsmola_SpamapS: hello17:04
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lsmola_SpamapS: I wanted to ask if there are any plans for object storage and block storage running on separate nodes17:05
lsmola_SpamapS: I saw only swift template, but it seems a bit hardcoded17:05
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lsmola_SpamapS: are there plans like that for I?17:05
SpamapSlsmola_: there are plans for _everything_ to be able to run on their own nodes.17:06
lsmola_SpamapS: and second question is, whether you know what are the issues with stack-update, just the donwnscaling?17:06
SpamapSlsmola_: but the templating language makes that hard right now :)17:06
SpamapSlsmola_: there are patches landing right now to add an optional cinder-block dedicated node.17:06
lsmola_SpamapS: I hear you :-D17:07
lsmola_SpamapS: ok, excellent17:07
lsmola_SpamapS: so we can count on it being there like in I2?17:07
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SpamapSlsmola_: and swift would be extremely easy I think.17:07
SpamapSlsmola_: I2 is next week, so no17:07
SpamapSlsmola_: we can hope certainly :)17:07
lsmola_SpamapS: ok, I am glad to hear it17:07
lsmola_SpamapS: hmm ok, I guess we need some time to take from devtest to tuskar-API17:08
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: The base view for the deployment panel  https://review.openstack.org/6679017:08
lsmola_SpamapS: ok we will see :-)17:09
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lsmola_SpamapS: what about the stack-update ?17:09
SpamapSlsmola_: I would hope that tuskar can stay flexible enough that you can just assemble available templates into clusters and deploy :)17:09
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SpamapSlsmola_: I'm working on stack-updates right now17:10
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lsmola_SpamapS: hmm17:10
lsmola_SpamapS: seems like a current design is pretty hardcoded17:11
lsmola_SpamapS: there is just cycle for adding compute nodes17:11
lsmola_SpamapS: is it now possible to make it the way you would just upload template and assemble it automatically?17:12
lsmola_SpamapS: how can we make automatical spawning several nodes of template we dont know?17:13
lsmola_SpamapS: seems like doing it like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52045/6/tuskar/heat/template_tools.py17:16
lsmola_SpamapS: there are special parameters like AvailabilityZone17:16
SpamapSlsmola_: I haven't looked at how tuskar is adding compute nodes17:16
lsmola_SpamapS: with HOT, we should be able to do it, but I have no idea how to do it now :-)17:17
SpamapSah ok, we're doing it like I was thinking we would17:17
SpamapSjust NovaCompute%d17:17
SpamapSwhich has the nice advantage that you can pick and choose which ones to terminate in a scale down situation.17:17
lsmola_SpamapS: ok but there are special parameters now17:18
SpamapSlsmola_: so HOT will just make it easier to re-use blocks of configs (the FileInclude piece goes away)..17:18
lsmola_SpamapS: so you can't just extract e.g. Neutron template and put it to this, right? We would have to modify the code17:19
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SpamapSlsmola_: we can then think about using provider templates in Heat which lets you make your own resources out of templates basically.17:19
SpamapSlsmola_: the desire is to be able to assemble configs into services just through the API17:20
SpamapSBut since we also don't have an "image building API" .. there is no urgent need for that.17:20
SpamapSbeing fairly static is fine17:20
lsmola_SpamapS: ok17:21
SpamapSas long as there are ways for users to create new templates and feed them to tuskar.17:21
SpamapSand then they'll build their own images17:21
lsmola_SpamapS: well that would probably require to change/extend this code17:21
SpamapSlsmola_: so I think that is the story for a standalone swift.. make swift images.. make swift-node template.. make tuskar aware17:22
lsmola_SpamapS: yes17:22
lsmola_SpamapS: later we could make generic piece of code for HOT17:22
SpamapSlsmola_: yeah this code in template_tools.py could be made a bit simpler and just have a class of things rather than NovaCompute%d be %(class)s%(num_nodes)%s17:22
lsmola_SpamapS: like passing only how many resources we want and have the logic in HOT17:22
lsmola_SpamapS: and with just showing all defined parameters to users, we should be able to accept any template17:23
lsmola_SpamapS: though that's J, I seems static :-)17:24
lsmola_SpamapS: yep, agree, this code can be reusable for more templates17:24
lsmola_SpamapS: right, it probably all I wanted to ask :-)17:25
lsmola_SpamapS: thank you17:25
lsmola_SpamapS: will be running home, family awaits :-)17:25
SpamapSlsmola_: cheers17:26
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Remove extra shebang from boot-stack-logs file  https://review.openstack.org/6686417:31
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jog0SpamapS: have you seen http://coarasa.dyndns.org/?p=16218:06
jog0and [openstack-dev] Pre-caching images on nova-compute18:06
jog0ml thread18:06
jog0it sounds like something that could be fit under tripleo18:06
SpamapSjog0: I saw the thread and thought so too. Will read that blog post.18:07
jog0SpamapS: cool, I would hate to see that thread go stale and for us to not build on that work18:08
jog0disclaimer: I only skimmed the post18:09
SpamapSjog0: Thing is, I think we actually have a bigger scale problem than they have.18:10
SpamapSnot the numbers18:10
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SpamapSbut the fact that we have to spit the raw image over the network to a PXE booted deploy ramdisk.18:10
jog0hmm yeah, that is assuming you can't stagger the boots to an arbitrary amount18:12
SpamapSjog0: I think we are going to have to come up with a more efficient image distribution mechanism in general. Compute isn't the final destination for baremetal images.18:12
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SpamapSjog0: which is why we've considered scatter/gather techniques where we'd have deploy ramdisks stick around a little while to help with massive bring-ups.18:13
SpamapSthough..18:14
SpamapSpre-caching would certainly make it easier for computes to get started18:14
SpamapSjog0: I've also wondered if we could pre-deploy machines with images and then turn them back off.. so when we do deploy to them they just skip the deploy ramdisk.18:14
SpamapSthat stuff is so much fun to think about18:15
SpamapSbut at this point.. being able to update seems like the best thing I can hope for. :)18:15
jog0:)18:18
jog0anyway wanted to make sure that thread doesn't get lost18:18
SpamapSjog0: yeah it is important. We need to file it in "when we get to scaling, try this"18:19
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SpamapSjog0: as we definitely have the "few images, many machines" problem on our radar.18:19
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openstackgerritPetr Blaho proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds help for subcommands  https://review.openstack.org/5625718:21
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jog0SpamapS: sounds like a plan18:28
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lifelessmorning18:50
lifelessmarun: pong18:50
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SpamapSlifeless: gooooooooooooooooooodmorning Robert COLLINS19:01
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lifelessrpodolyaka: how goes the ephemeral nova patc stack ?19:22
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Symlink correct element install type  https://review.openstack.org/6672419:26
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install nova based on source installation type  https://review.openstack.org/6580619:26
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lifelessslagle: so where should we discuss the package stuff; I'm worried that source-repositories is the wrong place to be hooking it in, basically.19:28
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slaglelifeless: i can discuss here and now :)19:29
slagleSpamapS: you around?19:29
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Nglifeless: where would you hook it in, ooi?19:39
lifelessNg: so, to my mind source-repositories doesn't *install* - it obtains19:39
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lifelessI think we need to pull up from procedural code to declarative 'install-things' the pip/pip-with-venv/package aspects19:40
lifelessit certainly looks similar to source-repositories, but different scope. IMNSHO.19:40
slaglei don't have s-r installing any more19:41
lifelessslagle: ok, great :)19:41
slagleit enables an install type, which is tightly coupled to the source repository type19:41
lifelessthe only messy bit I see is that e.g. git source-repositories may want to disable source-repositories sometimes (but not always)19:42
lifelessslagle: sounds good; I'll make sure to review it this week19:42
slagleok, thanks19:43
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SpamapSslagle: ah missed your ping. Reviewed your changes though.19:45
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: dib-run-parts should dereference symlinks  https://review.openstack.org/6692319:57
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Symlink correct element install type  https://review.openstack.org/6672419:57
openstackgerritJay Dobies proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Tuskar domain model updates for wireframes  https://review.openstack.org/6606219:59
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Test environment worker template.  https://review.openstack.org/5859620:10
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Test environment worker template.  https://review.openstack.org/5859620:10
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lifelessSpamapS: can you eyeball that?20:11
* SpamapS polishes eyeballs20:12
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SpamapSThe following command failed with exit code 128 "git fetch gerrit refs/changes/96/58596/6"20:14
SpamapSlifeless: I think the ' in the Description field of PublicInterface invalidates the yaml20:15
dprincederekh/lifeless/pleia2: you guys ready to chat?20:15
pleia2dprince: yep20:16
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Test environment worker template.  https://review.openstack.org/5859620:16
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Nglifeless: what's up with the network flake one? have we seen this from the bastion too?20:22
Nglifeless: s/one/card/20:22
SpamapSNg: no20:22
lifelessNg: we've seen it from .3 and .420:23
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Nglifeless: ok, so the card is to try and diagnose what's happening?20:24
openstackgerritLucas Alvares Gomes proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix deploy-ironic init script  https://review.openstack.org/6667720:25
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add Ironic password and service enrollment  https://review.openstack.org/6646020:29
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Don't install scripts straight to /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6688120:31
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lifelessNg: and get it fixed :)20:42
openstackgerritTzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Restructured overcloud views  https://review.openstack.org/6693320:46
derekhdprince: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61829/20:47
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lifelessok -> town21:04
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Get IP for Test Host from neutron  https://review.openstack.org/6694221:17
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Get seed IPs from tripleo-bm-test  https://review.openstack.org/6694321:17
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add support for Debian  https://review.openstack.org/6613922:01
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derekhlifeless: Going to redeploy the testenv host, its setting in the wrong host-ip in the json22:45
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derekhlifeless: done23:22
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add Copyright and License header to debian element  https://review.openstack.org/6697523:32
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