Friday, 2014-01-24

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SpamapSlifeless: the bug was no set -e really. :)00:09
SpamapSlifeless: the exposure of said bug was using == ...00:10
lifelessSpamapS: two bugs then00:10
lifelessSpamapS: I agree, no -e is a problem00:10
SpamapSlifeless: It does not really matter to me. As I said in the commit message, I wanted to use [[]] to be clear "this is bash" .. but I could just as easily drop back to  [] and use =00:10
SpamapSI may have been coding in anger :)00:10
lifelessSpamapS: nearly all of our other scripts use [=]00:11
openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix rabbitmq-server script on Ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/6880100:13
SpamapSlifeless: easy enough to remedy :)00:13
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rwsuNobodyCam: ping00:28
NobodyCamrwsu: pong00:29
rwsuNobodyCam: Hi, I found a nagios3 element in tripleo-image-elements and was wondering how it was intended to be used00:30
NobodyCamoh that was a long time ago00:30
rwsuLooks like it installs nagios on an instance and does a basic check to check that vms that are started can be pinged00:33
rwsuNobodyCam: were there more plans to add additional checks through Nagios? I'm interested in seeing how we can do process checks through check_procs to verify certain number of say nova processes are up and running00:34
NobodyCamwas looking this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37079/00:35
lifelessdevananda: NobodyCam: btw - did you get feedback on a techcon paper - I was sure we submitted more than 2; if you have feedback, could you forward it to the internal monty taylor team list ?00:35
NobodyCami'm sure none of that would work anymore00:36
NobodyCamlifeless: feedback on the procress,the paper or the reviews of ?00:37
NobodyCamprocess even00:37
lifelessNobodyCam: the conf system sent out feedback on each paper submitted, to the submitters00:37
lifelessNobodyCam: I forwarded the two I had my name on to the group; I was sure there were more that we submitted00:38
lifelessoh, maybe it was dkehn ^00:38
lifelessI just want to make sure we all have the opportunity to learn from the reviewers feedback00:38
NobodyCamahh I will dbl check. I did get feedback on two papers as well00:38
NobodyCamyes!00:39
lifelessNobodyCam: if they aren't the ones I forward to the group, please forward the feedback to the group :)00:39
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NobodyCamwill do :)00:39
lifelessNobodyCam: thanks!00:39
NobodyCamrwsu: did that old review (Abandoned) answer the question?00:41
rwsuNobodyCam: it was abandoned due to licensing concerns, was that specific to the plugins you were using, I'm wondering if all the plugins are like that00:43
NobodyCamrwsu: all the ones included in that review had licensing concerns00:45
lifelessthey were GPL00:46
lifelesswhich we can't include in openstack00:46
lifelesswe could install them, but not copy them00:46
rwsuthe one i'm interested in has a package in fedora, so I think it should be alright to use00:47
rwsuI see00:47
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lifelesspopping out to the bank for a bit00:52
NobodyCamabout to call it a day here00:54
NobodyCamnight TripleO00:54
lifelessok,bbiab00:59
lifelessStevenK: greghaynes: this would be a good thing to polish; grab SpamapS for reviews on bits that are in good shape01:00
lifelessStevenK: greghaynes: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:ci-work,n,z01:00
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greghaynesoo, ill check that out01:08
greghaynesrelevant openstack-infra convo is relevant :)01:23
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dkehn lifeless: NobodyCam I haven't seen anything01:54
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use the same variable for TRIPLEO_CLEANUPs.  https://review.openstack.org/6884003:48
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Don't delete test VMs by default.  https://review.openstack.org/6884103:48
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Destroy seed domains before copying new files.  https://review.openstack.org/6814303:58
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: SSL support for openstack services.  https://review.openstack.org/6734304:43
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rpodolyakamorning all08:11
marioso/08:13
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GheRiveromorning all08:23
rpodolyakao/08:25
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lifelessNg: oh hi09:04
lifelessrpodolyaka: I think we need to agitate for reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60285/ on irc now :)09:06
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rpodolyakalifeless: yeah, seems so. It's time this was merged :)09:11
rpodolyakalifeless: btw, great talk on d-i-b at LCA ;)09:11
lifelessrpodolyaka: thanks09:11
rpodolyakalifeless: going to send a link to FUEL team as they are going to use d-i-b too09:12
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lifelessrpodolyaka: cool!09:21
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SpamapSlifeless: \o/09:35
SpamapS  Jenkins has submitted this change and it was merged.09:35
SpamapS  Change subject: Add a new "UpdateWaitConditionHandle" resource09:35
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Destroy seed domains before copying new files.  https://review.openstack.org/6814309:35
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SpamapSlifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67329/2 <-- did you forget to type why you are -1'ing ?09:36
SpamapSlifeless: note that I added justification to the commit message.09:37
lifelessSpamapS: I just have a bot doing random -1s09:37
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lifelessSpamapS: uhm, so I'm concerned about the implications09:39
lifelessSpamapS: like, if we say its precious, what if we miss an update09:40
lifelessderekh: oops :P09:41
derekhlifeless: :-)09:42
SpamapSlifeless: then the waitcondition on success fails -> rollback09:52
SpamapSlifeless: if a box is truly offline during update, it will have to be reinitialized anyway, pretty sure we've always expected that.09:53
SpamapSthats actually an interesting problem for a rolling update mechanism.09:54
lifelessSpamapS: so wouldn't it be better to have an axiom that nova metadata + current image is always sufficient (up to some 'I can't be bothered now' point in the users backwards compat code?)09:58
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lifelessSpamapS: e.g. we should treat places where this falls down as bugs in the rest of the system, not in occ or how we use it09:59
SpamapSlifeless: so I'm uncomfortable already with the crednetials in nova user-data because of the "all local users can read these" problem.10:00
SpamapSWe do need a strategy to mitigate that regardless.10:01
SpamapSperhaps iptables socket owner match?10:02
SpamapSlifeless: so if we could assert that only root can read it then I'm comfortable with that aspect..10:04
SpamapSlifeless: the next problem is that what we have to update is a big blob10:04
lifelessSpamapS: you're complecting there :)10:05
SpamapSlifeless: no I'm trying to un-complect by saying "we need a strategy no matter what" and coming up with one so I can un-block my overactive security reflex. :)10:05
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SpamapSlifeless: so currently we have a giant multi-part mime message that contains the values we actually care about and want to update..10:06
lifelessSpamapS: but we generated that in the first place10:06
SpamapSon boot10:07
lifelessSpamapS: so ignoring the ugly10:07
SpamapSwe have to regenerate the whole stupid thing again.. and then o-c-c would have to re-interpret it or somehow coerce cloud-init into doing so.10:07
lifelessSpamapS: thats already taken care of10:07
lifelessSpamapS: if we've pushed a new image10:08
lifelessSpamapS: we have lost /var/lib/cloud10:08
SpamapSoh so we'll just make /var/lib/cloud writable but not state-preserved?10:08
SpamapSbut then ssh keys..10:08
lifelessSpamapS: we can set the option to not delete10:08
lifelessSpamapS: which I proposed anyway to stop symlinks being deleted10:08
SpamapSyeah .. so don't delete means "if they're there leave them" ? not "leave them but try to overwrite them later" ?10:09
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SpamapSok I can get behind it in principle... but .. ugh.. more heat changes.10:10
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SpamapSanyway.. 2am.. time to sleep10:11
lifelessSpamapS: let me check10:12
lifelessSpamapS: eys10:13
lifelessSpamapS: or rather10:13
lifelessSpamapS: there is no unconditional override for locally generated keys10:13
lifelessSpamapS: the reason they ever get created is because delete defaults to true10:13
SpamapSlifeless: anyway, I see where you're going with it, and I'm on-board.. I just want to have maybe a day or two where the way I thought things might work is actually the same. :-/10:14
lifelessSpamapS: ok :)10:14
lifelessSpamapS: thats called the weekend10:15
SpamapSfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu10:15
lifelesslol10:15
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Setup libvirt/kvm permissions on openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/6879410:59
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: [WIP] Update tuskarclient to match API changes  https://review.openstack.org/6860711:00
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Setup libvirt/kvm permissions on openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/6879411:20
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix rabbitmq-server script on Ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/6880112:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds help for subcommands  https://review.openstack.org/5625712:30
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Also install libxslt-devel on openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/6839012:38
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Nglifeless: oh hi13:18
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derekhhmm, the openstackgerrit bot seems to be dead15:46
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rpodolyakajust wanted to say it was too quite here :)15:48
derekhshhh, you'll wake everybody up15:49
rpodolyaka:)15:49
ccrouchany idea when this would take place?15:50
ccrouchhttp://openstack.10931.n7.nabble.com/TripleO-mid-cycle-meetup-td30159.html15:50
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ccrouchalso shouldn't it go to openstack-dev?15:56
rpodolyakaseems so15:57
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devanandahm, yea, i was looking on dev for that info, too16:01
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derekhslagle: looks like you package branch needs a rebase, want to do that and I'll give it a whirl16:09
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dkehnhmm, from http://openstack.10931.n7.nabble.com/TripleO-mid-cycle-meetup-td30159.html, seems like date and place are confirmed??16:12
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dkehnDoes anyone have the details?16:15
dkehnlifeless: ^^^^16:15
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slaglederekh: will do so16:27
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slagle<incoming>16:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install glance-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6795616:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to swift  https://review.openstack.org/6794316:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to horizon  https://review.openstack.org/6795216:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to heat  https://review.openstack.org/6795316:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install heat-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6795416:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to glance  https://review.openstack.org/6795516:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to neutron  https://review.openstack.org/6794916:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install nova-baremetal-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6794816:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install keystone-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6795116:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to keystone  https://review.openstack.org/6795016:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to novnc  https://review.openstack.org/6794516:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to openstack-clients  https://review.openstack.org/6794416:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install nova-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6794716:30
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to nova  https://review.openstack.org/6794616:30
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rbradydoes anyone know of an example of how the nove-compute-group template is actually used? https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/blob/master/nova-compute-group.yaml16:40
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix tftp mapping on openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/6896216:46
openstackgerritTzu-Mainn Chen proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Adds basic deployment log API and tab  https://review.openstack.org/6876416:47
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enable xinetd service  https://review.openstack.org/6896616:57
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rbradymarios, mordered: I'm looking for a working example of a template using the nova-compute-group.yaml template.  Any ideas?17:04
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enable xinetd service  https://review.openstack.org/6896617:13
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to swift  https://review.openstack.org/6794317:21
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to openstack-clients  https://review.openstack.org/6794417:32
derekhcrap I meant to -1 that, going to rever as there is a regression , sorry17:33
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Adding nova baremetal API  https://review.openstack.org/6897317:36
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Revert "Add package install support to openstack-clients"  https://review.openstack.org/6897417:38
SpamapSHm I think I'll turn tripleo-cd back on17:39
derekhslagle: sorry I A+'ed by accident the package support for clients is causeing them to not get installed on the image17:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Revert "Add package install support to openstack-clients"  https://review.openstack.org/6897417:46
SpamapSderekh: thanks for cleaning up the mess. :)17:46
derekhlets not mention that I made the mess in the first place...17:48
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SpamapShttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/67358/ <-- can I get some core love for that one?18:36
slagleloved18:39
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SpamapSsweet.. with that we have a chance at making updates work on tripleo-cd18:40
SpamapStripleo-cd started18:52
browneljreading through the TripleO wiki... in the development so far, are most people using os-config-applier+os-refresh-config for doing configuration management, or integrating with Chef/Puppet etc?18:55
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SpamapSbrownelj: we haven't had anybody integrate on top of TripleO..19:00
SpamapSbrownelj: so we're all using os-*-config19:00
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SpamapS\o/ Heat works again19:14
SpamapS(bug 1271190 landed)19:14
slagleheat_stack_user lives again!19:14
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rbradylol19:19
SpamapSoo.. hm..19:20
SpamapSwe may need to change a bit about devtest_overcloud ..19:20
SpamapSor maybe it is load-image19:20
SpamapSit removes existing images rather than renames them19:20
SpamapSthat will make rollback fail19:21
SpamapSahh yeah we're passing -d19:22
SpamapSneed a new option to just rename or something19:22
lifelesso/19:28
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lifelessSpamapS: brownelj: redhat folk are doing puppet stuff19:29
lifelessdkehn: no, mirantis were saying it doesn't matter I think :)19:29
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ccrouchbrownelj: we forked the tripleo-image-elements a few months ago19:32
ccrouchhttps://github.com/agroup/tripleo-puppet-elements19:32
ccrouchbut haven't done anything iwth it recently19:32
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SpamapSlifeless: Ah, I have not seen any of that.19:38
SpamapSlifeless: watching tripleo overcloud go through migrations that it has missed since we turned it off.. pretty cool actually :)19:42
SpamapSbut.. it might miss the timeout. :(19:42
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lifelessNg: hey19:49
lifelessNg: did you get a chance to hook up with Colin ?19:49
Nglifeless: I have reached out, but we have not hooked up as yet19:50
Nglifeless: I'll be pursuing it closely on Monday though, so this doesn't block us19:51
SpamapSheh19:56
SpamapS/root/stackrc needs to go to /mnt/state too :)19:56
Ngnice19:56
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SpamapShm19:59
SpamapSI wonder if we're still blanking the db19:59
SpamapSindeed we are20:02
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SpamapShttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/tree/elements/os-svc-install/bin/os-db-create#n620:05
SpamapSI don't see any reason to always drop20:05
SpamapSwe're not re-using db servers here20:05
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Do not drop databases without a good reason  https://review.openstack.org/6900320:08
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SpamapShmmmmmmm20:11
SpamapSovercloud didn't get an updated 51-init-openstack..20:11
SpamapSwhich was fixed:20:11
SpamapS4ef5de03        (Robert Collins 2014-01-17 12:59:35 +1300       4)OK=/mnt/state/var/lib/boot-stack/init-openstack.ok20:11
* SpamapS wonders if rebuild did not actually work20:12
lifelessNg: ok cool20:12
lifelessSpamapS: I was going to say, isn't createdb intended to be low level razor ?20:13
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SpamapSlifeless: Well I don't think it should just indiscriminately drop. There is no practical reason and it makes it more dangerous to have on the path.20:18
SpamapSlifeless: I suspect that rebuild did not actually write the new image.20:18
SpamapS/var/log/upstart/nova-compute.log:2014-01-24 19:20:32,057.057 1581 AUDIT nova.compute.manager [req-baa9b60c-a993-4b82-8bea-37e8214e4bbb 2de96ce5da994575a08447c93bcafd53 4956c533154c476799c688eda7ed65ab] [instance: 61436e6d-864a-44ab-904a-dd77e57a616e] Rebuilding instance20:19
SpamapS/var/log/upstart/nova-compute.log:2014-01-24 19:20:49,926.926 1581 INFO nova.compute.manager [-] [instance: 61436e6d-864a-44ab-904a-dd77e57a616e] During sync_power_state the instance has a pending task. Skip.20:19
SpamapS/var/log/upstart/nova-compute.log:2014-01-24 19:27:33,896.896 1581 INFO nova.virt.baremetal.pxe [-] PXE deploy started for instance 61436e6d-864a-44ab-904a-dd77e57a616e20:19
SpamapSwe did pxe boot and write stuff20:19
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SpamapSbut /opt/stack/os-config-refresh/configure.d/51-init-openstack is still the old version20:20
dkehndevananda: hmm, its complicating testing in a nut shell. And I don't see presidences for it in anyones code base20:21
dkehnsorry wrong window20:21
SpamapS-rw-r--r-- 1 nova nova 3585671168 Jan 11 18:31 /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-000009bb/disk20:21
SpamapSlifeless: ^^20:21
lifelessSpamapS: 'oops'20:21
SpamapSlifeless: the disk file which gets dd'd to the node has not been updated20:21
SpamapSlifeless: are we just running older, broken patches, or did we forget to hook up the doll?20:22
lifelessSpamapS: I'm quite sure we have managed to do rebuilds20:22
* SpamapS wishes everybody knew Weird Science by heart like he did so that reference would make more sense20:22
lifelessoh it made sense20:22
lifelessI have to bounce20:22
lifelessusing the latest patch stack would make sense though20:23
SpamapSlifeless: ok, I'll test rebuilds a bit more20:23
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openstackgerritChris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Ensure correct tftp directory ownership for Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/6901321:11
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lifelessSpamapS: hi, so21:23
SpamapSlifeless: "I got my ears on good buddy 10-4"21:28
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to openstack-clients  https://review.openstack.org/6902221:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install glance-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6795621:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to horizon  https://review.openstack.org/6795221:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to heat  https://review.openstack.org/6795321:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install heat-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6795421:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to glance  https://review.openstack.org/6795521:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to neutron  https://review.openstack.org/6794921:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install nova-baremetal-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6794821:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install keystone-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6795121:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to keystone  https://review.openstack.org/6795021:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to novnc  https://review.openstack.org/6794521:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install nova-manage into /usr/local/bin  https://review.openstack.org/6794721:40
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add package install support to nova  https://review.openstack.org/6794621:40
lifelessSpamapS: oh right21:41
lifelessSpamapS: hows tripleo-cd21:42
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SpamapSlifeless: re-running it now with no changes.. trying to observe the rebuild process21:46
rbradysdake: I'm here21:50
sdakeSpamapS rbrady is getting a key error with a template like: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61857/21:50
sdakeSpamapS the error is: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61852/21:51
sdakeSpamapS does TripleO do something odd with the glance volumes for overcloud-cinder-volume21:51
sdakeSpamapS like in some way use glance to connect them to cinder?21:52
SpamapSglance does not have anything to do with volumes.. ?21:52
rbradysdake: I talked with SpamapS about this earlier21:52
sdakeit has to do with the image tag21:52
SpamapSsdake: we're building a glance backend storage machine21:53
SpamapSerr21:53
SpamapSa cinder backend storage machine21:53
SpamapSso BlockStorageImage is just a parameter for the ID that you want to use to deploy those backends.21:53
sdakeSpamapS so the template in this case is being parsed outside of the python-heatclient api?21:54
sdakeSpamapS what would cause that key error ?21:54
sdakelooking at engine/resources/server.py, the image property loads the image from glance21:55
sdakeso we shouldn't get a heat type error when using it multiple times as the link above does21:55
rbradysdake: changing the name of the Ref: parameter allowed it to merge and validate21:55
lifelesssdake: there is no such thing as a 'glance volume' :)21:56
sdakestill think it makes sense to get to the bottom of the key error21:56
sdakelifeless yes, I know, a glance image21:56
sdakethe heat template only loads a glance image21:56
ccrouchlifeless: when you say "we'll soon be testing percona xtradb"21:58
ccrouchdo you mean percona server http://www.percona.com/software/percona-server ?21:58
ccrouchi thought xtradb was just the storage engine, not the whole database21:58
rbradysdake: the valid template it created dumped out the file I tried to merge.  I'll work more on it this weekend and push up a WIP so my files / make target can be seen21:58
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sdakerbrady sounds good - if you find a consistent error feel free to file a bug in the launchpad heat tracker21:59
lifelessccrouch: yes, the galera cluster storage engine22:00
SpamapSsdake: yes the problems he is seeing are from merge.py in tripleo-heat-templates22:01
SpamapSxtradb cluster == percona + galera22:01
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SpamapSxtradb is just percona's derivative of InnoDB22:01
SpamapSlifeless: ok so I've at least confirmed that nova is not doing rebuild right. I will try "latest patch set" next.22:03
ccrouch(4:01:36 PM) SpamapS: xtradb cluster == percona + galera22:03
ccrouchright and percona == mysql + xtradb + some other special sauce?22:03
SpamapSccrouch: correct22:03
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ccrouchhave we thought about mariadb + galera22:04
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SpamapSthough IIRC a lot of what Percona did in 5.5 was adopted in MySQL upstream in 5.6 (though re-done slightly different so Oracle could own it because they're twits)22:04
ccrouchgiven mariadb uses xtradb iiuc22:04
SpamapSccrouch: no22:04
lifelessccrouch: should we?22:04
SpamapSIMO MariaDB is doomed22:04
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ccrouchSpamapS: ha22:04
SpamapSRH will have to buy them and then will find themselves competing directly with Oracle... in the database market..22:05
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SpamapSRH might foresee this, and come to their senses, and put money into making PostgreSQL scalable .. or maybe they'll invest in Drizzle. :)22:05
ccrouchlifeless: its worth considering, given percona is entirely 3rd party to all distros22:05
ccrouchat least mariadb is included in fedora/debian etc22:06
SpamapSccrouch: Percona has submitted packages to me (and the rest of the pkg-mysql team) for upload to Debian.22:06
ccrouchSpamapS: ah good to know22:06
SpamapSlike, as of yesterday ;)22:06
ccrouch:-)22:06
SpamapSI was the first distro person to suggest MariaDB replacing MySQL 2 or so years ago when I got frustrated with Oracle not listening to me or helping me and generally sucking.22:07
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SpamapSAnd thusly was I educated on the fact that basically _everybody_ in that ecosystem is screwed in some way shape or form.22:08
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SpamapSPercona simply _must_ follow Oracle.22:08
SpamapSMariaDB can't keep up with Oracle.22:08
SpamapSOracle is hated by everyone.22:08
ccrouchiiuc:  Percona is a mysql clone, Mariadb (as of 10.x) is a fork22:09
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SpamapSI would not say clone22:10
SpamapSDerivative.22:10
lifelessfork22:11
SpamapSThey take what Oracle releases, and patch on top of it.22:11
lifelessthat is merged up22:11
lifelessunion of everything22:11
SpamapSAnd Oracle actually takes what they do in rare cases, back.22:11
SpamapSMariaDB is definitely a fork. There is no sharing anymore there.22:11
ccrouchagreed SpamapS, derivative is a better22:11
SpamapSLikewise, Drizzle is a complete fork.22:12
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Nglifeless: how soon are we talking for the mid-cycle sprint? I assume very?22:17
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clarkblifeless: can I be selfish and suggest seattle? the new offices are much nicer than sunnyvale >_>22:19
SpamapSclarkb: +1 from me. Seattle > Sunnyvale IMO :)22:20
SpamapStho Sunnyvale has less travel for our peeps22:20
lifelessNg: dunno22:21
SpamapSbut only slightly less22:21
lifelesssoon but not next week22:21
lifelessSpamapS: so, did it rebuild ?22:21
SpamapSlifeless: everything happened except the part where we convert the new qcow2 into the disk file22:22
SpamapSlifeless: pondering whether to try and debug the code as-is or retry with latest patch set22:22
SpamapSactually right now just trying to figure out where nova even does the write to disk part22:22
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lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/baremetal-preserve-ephemeral,n,z is the topic branch22:25
SpamapSlooks like those are getting +A'd right now actually :)22:25
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/59312/ is the top22:25
lifelessand yeah22:25
lifelessshould all be in, gate flakiness aside22:26
SpamapSare we going to have to re-teach ironic that trick?22:26
lifelessdevananda is already on it22:26
lifelessSpamapS: anyhow, driver.py line 25322:28
lifeless            self.driver.cache_images(22:28
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SpamapSlifeless: ahh thats got me on the right path. Thanks.22:31
SpamapS    if not os.path.exists(target):22:32
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SpamapSlifeless: are we sure this actually worked?22:32
SpamapSlike we saw it go offline.. and we copied _an_ image to the rebuilt box22:33
Nglifeless: I think we should figure out dates asap :)22:33
SpamapSbut are we sure we copied _the_ image?22:33
lifelessNg: agreed22:34
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lifelessNg: first we need to know the set of people we're negotiating dates amongst22:34
lifelessSpamapS: upi22:35
lifelessSpamapS: btw /var/lib/instances is not where they are stored for baremetal22:35
lifelesserm22:35
lifelessI'm wrong22:35
lifelessdisk image is there22:35
SpamapS    return os.path.join(CONF.instances_path, instance['name'], 'disk')22:36
SpamapSso instead of 'disk' that really has to be image_id22:36
lifelessyeah, in fact I've been meaning to change the cache to use image id for a bit22:37
lifelessdevananda: around22:37
lifelessdevananda: around ?22:37
SpamapSlifeless: and to not use instance id too, right?22:37
lifelessonly if file injection is off22:38
SpamapSright22:38
* SpamapS shakes fist at injection22:38
SpamapShttp://memecrunch.com/meme/26FC/why-won-t-you-die/image.png22:39
openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/6903822:39
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lifelessok so the name 'disk' seems to be embedded fairly deeply in the assumptions for libvirt22:55
lifelessI think we need to let ironic do the fancy stuff and just be simple for now22:55
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lifelessdevananda: AFAICT the tftp images aren't cleaned up now, is that right?22:59
lifelessdevananda: and the libvirt cache management stuff is entirely irrelevant because we don't use base + layer qcow images22:59
SpamapSlifeless: trying just moving the 'disk' file out of the way to see what happens. :)23:02
lifelessit will fix it23:02
lifelessI'm trying to decide on how far to wip this up23:02
devanandalifeless: in baremetal or ironic?23:04
devanandalifeless: also, around now. was getting a sammich23:04
devanandaSpamapS: if you guys are really interested in optimizing the image stuff in nova-bm, take a look at the image cache mgmt stuff GheRivero added for ironic's driver23:04
devanandai dont think that was back-ported becase deprecation23:04
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lifelessdevananda: no, we're not23:08
lifelessdevananda: this is about the minimum fix for rebuild23:08
lifelessSpamapS: https://review.openstack.org/6906023:09
lifelessSpamapS: I'll monkey this onto overcloud now23:09
lifelesssorry, undercloud23:09
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devanandalifeless: rebuild with the same image, or upgrade to new image?23:12
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devanandalooks like it could be either23:13
SpamapSupgrade23:14
SpamapSrebuild with same image will work fine because it will just write the same image23:14
lifelessdevananda: reviews appreciated :)23:14
devanandamind filing a bug to track that in Ironic? I think we'll be OK, because our caching layer is by image uuid with symlinks for each node that shares the image23:15
SpamapSdevananda: whats the blocker for us rolling with ironic these days? Like, should we all start testing and push to get off baremetal?23:15
devanandaso if managing N nodes with a single image, we dont waste disk23:15
lifelessedmund: I don't think you have the bug23:15
lifelessbah23:15
devanandaSpamapS: neutron patch. I'm trying to unblock that work now23:15
lifelessdevananda: ^23:15
devanandalifeless: i dont think so either....23:16
lifelessdevananda: I don't see much point filing a bug for something you don't suffer23:16
devanandaack23:16
devanandasemi-afk again23:17
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Use OS::Heat::UpdateWaitConditionHandle  https://review.openstack.org/6735823:18
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use the same variable for TRIPLEO_CLEANUPs.  https://review.openstack.org/6884023:19
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lifelessSpamapS: nvoa updated but not restarted23:21
lifelessSpamapS: restart nova-compute when you want it activated23:21
SpamapSlifeless: now's a good time23:22
SpamapSactually23:22
SpamapSwe're already rebuilding23:22
lifelessdone23:22
SpamapSlifeless: did you db_sync yet?23:23
SpamapS2014-01-24 23:22:42,207.207 21099 TRACE nova.openstack.common.threadgroup IncompatibleObjectVersion: Version 1.3 of InstanceList is not supported23:23
lifelessbwah23:23
lifelessok23:23
lifelessSpamapS: no-op apparenetly23:24
lifelessconductor restart I suspect, sec23:24
lifelessthat look better?23:24
SpamapSalso I was mistaken when I said now was a good time.. so not sure if that rebuild will fail or not23:24
lifelessyour prob :)23:24
SpamapSyeah23:24
SpamapSty for the monkeypatch23:25
SpamapS/opt/stack/venvs/nova/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/amqp/channel.py:599: DeprecationWarning: auto_delete exchanges has been deprecated23:25
lifeless'yay'23:25
SpamapSdunno what that is23:25
SpamapSroot     30674  2.5  0.0  11192  1716 ?        D    23:27   0:00 /bin/dd if=/var/lib/nova/instances/instance-000009bc/disk of=/dev/disk/by-path/ip-10.10.16.174:3260-iscsi-iqn-d9d78fe2-5c61-4f5e-9803-86ad37ef7fd3-lun-1-part3 bs=1M oflag=direct23:27
SpamapSwell dd's are going at least23:27
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dkehnlifeless: what about Seattle? transportation from airport is a train and new office, just a thought23:52
clarkbdkehn: ++23:52
clarkbalso there is food around here23:52
dkehnclarkb: never been to the Sunnyale office, could be food there, maybe....23:53
clarkbdkehn: there is a cafeteria23:53
dkehnmaybe not23:53
clarkbbut otherwise the location is pretty remote23:53
dkehnSeattle +123:53
clarkbthough sunnyvale gave SpamapS and I a great adventure23:54
dkehnclarkb: ?, the amusement park?23:54
clarkbdkehn: no, we tried to take the caltrain to san francisco for dinner with cody-somerville and AaronGr but then they didn't run fast enough and missed the train then we got to the bart transfer and it took forever because tracks were bad. eventually we made it downtown and walked to the old restaurant and should've stayed by the stop23:55
clarkbdkehn: tl;dr an hour and 15 minute trip too far too long23:55
dkehnclarkb: so that begs a question is HP sunnyvale near the caltran from the airport23:56
clarkbdkehn: no23:56
clarkbwe drove to the mountain view stop23:56
dkehnouch23:56

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