Monday, 2014-03-10

tchaypomy laundry was untouched00:00
tchaypoprobably because i had it folded and put away neatly in the cupboard00:00
StevenKtchaypo: Just to twist the knife, clearly that was a bad plan, since lifeless and I didn't lose our luggage? :-P00:01
StevenKtchaypo: But that does explain why it took you 2.5 times longer to pack than me00:01
tchaypoin other news - checked credit card when i landed to see if the hotel has charged me yet - but the website told me i had no credit card.00:02
lifelessrotfl00:02
tchaypochecked again later, i've got a card again, but no charge still00:02
tchaypoThey didn't actually swipe my card when I checked out, just asked if it was "the same card we already have a deposit from"00:03
lifelesscody's! :)00:03
tchayposo either I'm going to have the charge hit me in a few days - or cody's in for a surprise00:03
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StevenKamex does not yet admit to a hotel charge00:04
StevenKBut does admit to the cab that tchaypo and I took to the airport00:05
tchaypoQF does that thing now where your FF card doubles as a pre-paid visa, right?00:07
tchaypoI don't know about the QF version, but the VA version of that appears to be one of the handy ones that will happily pretend to have whatever billing address you want to pretend to have00:07
tchaypohandy for things that requre a card with a US billing address00:07
StevenKtchaypo: QF does, yes -- but it requires you sign up specifically for it00:08
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openstackgerrittom-howley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add standadlone script to build all images.  https://review.openstack.org/7746200:08
tchaypoditto VA. I used mine on this trip a little bit, just so i could compare how pricey it was compared to using my regular card00:09
tchaypoturned out pretty much identical. Regular card gives a better conversion rate, but charges a few which means the effective rate was the same. the VA prepaid doesn't charge a fee, but does hold the money as "pending" for ~3 days before it allows me to spend it.00:10
StevenKtchaypo: My platium amex/visa have a thing that if the card is in credit balance, international currency fees are tiny00:10
tchaypobecause they hate having it in credit?00:11
StevenKWhy would they? It's a credit card account that requires >$5k limit, surely it's in their best interest to have the account in debit for interest charges?00:13
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run overcloud deploy tests against the seed.  https://review.openstack.org/7922001:02
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StevenKlifeless: It ought to be a plausible failure/success given the tripleo-incubator changes landed while I was suspended in a metal tube.01:26
StevenK(Re: the toci review you +2'd about 10 minutes ago)01:26
lifelessStevenK: just being clear for the next reviewer01:37
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StevenKtchaypo: Did you find out what has been shipped yet?03:09
lifelessStevenK: 8570w03:19
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StevenKHm, I just remembered what other cool feature zsh has -- tab complete for remote systems for things like ssh and rsync.03:41
StevenK(And when I say tab complete, I don't just mean hostnames, but remote files, too)03:42
tchaypoIn the office now03:42
tchaypoIt's totes deffo an elitebook 8750w03:42
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openstackgerritRyan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adds nfs-server element  https://review.openstack.org/7471203:42
tchaypoOnly 8gb ram, but it does have an i7 3720qm03:43
tchaypo2.6 ghz03:43
tchaypoStevenK: How does that compare with yours?03:43
StevenKtchaypo: You're making me consider driving in just due for your use of 'totes deffo'03:43
rbrady-afkokay lifeless, i's dotted and t's crossed for the nfs-server element :)03:43
tchaypolifeless: How does that compare with your old one?03:44
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StevenKtchaypo: i5 3437u 1.9GHz03:44
StevenKtchaypo: dual core with 2 threads -- 4 processors in /proc/cpuinfo03:45
tchaypoI think I'm going to assume this is the best they can do in APAC right now and just order the extra ram03:47
StevenKtchaypo: Consider a slice battery, if you want to hack on planes03:48
tchaypoIt certainly seems like it should be sufficient03:48
tchaypoOn planes, not so much. A full day at a hack fest or conf, much.03:48
tchaypoOkay. Enhomengoing03:50
tchaypoBelay that last. First a coffee then I head home.03:53
StevenKHaha03:53
StevenKtchaypo: Who woulda thunk it? :-P03:54
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lifelesshmmm04:44
lifeless2014-03-10 02:14:30.990 | Waiting for the overcloud stack to be ready04:44
lifeless2014-03-10 03:07:01.063 | Timing out after 3000 seconds:04:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add set -eux  https://review.openstack.org/7684704:46
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-collect-config: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/7557404:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Revert "Seed specific Fedora network configuration"  https://review.openstack.org/7598404:50
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tchaypo*wonders why there's no-one in tripleo*06:43
tchaypo*realises he's looking on OFTC*06:43
tchaypolifeless: Based on what I could remember the morning after some light night conversation last week, I've been educating myself about paxos. I've written https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-robust-bootstrap which summarises my recollections of what you were talking about06:44
tchaypobut I'm missing context - I'm not familiar enough with openstack to have been able to figure out specific places where you were thinking this would be useful06:45
lifelesstchaypo: galera and rabbitmq cluster initialisation06:46
tchaypoI've seen rabbitmq on my devtest setup, but I haven't seen galera06:48
lifelessits sitting in various reviews at the moment06:49
tchaypowhich either means that it isn't in there, or could just mean that it hasn't broken on me yet06:49
lifelessbut read up on percona xtradb-cluster setup if you want to see the things that we need to orchestrate06:49
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use xtradb-cluster in place of mysql  https://review.openstack.org/7554006:54
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greghaynestchaypo: ^ is one of those reviews06:55
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StevenKgreghaynes: O HAI. Flight home was okay?06:55
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greghaynesIm in SF actually, but flight is all of 2 hrs06:56
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greghaynesYours was survivable?06:57
tchaypogreghaynes: nice timing06:57
tchaypogreghaynes: I'll answer that question if/when my luggage arrives06:58
StevenKgreghaynes: I had a nice chat most of the way from SJC to LAX, which was good, since that's a boring flight, and got ~ 6 hours sleep from LAX to SYD.06:58
StevenKBwahaha06:58
StevenKtchaypo: Should have flown Qantas.06:58
greghayneseek :/06:58
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StevenKtchaypo: Clearly, you must be the same size as a poor TSA agent?06:59
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StevenKMy luggage was searched again, since they left the card. It did not make me feel safer.06:59
tchaypomaybe that's my why luggage didn't make the connection - was being rummaged07:00
greghaynesIve noticed that really only happens when I leave electronics in my bags07:00
StevenKgreghaynes: I've had TSA pull stuff out, and not card me for it.07:00
* StevenK managed to talk Qantas into replacing it.07:01
greghayneswow07:01
StevenKHm.07:01
StevenKFour mails with the same timestamp07:01
* StevenK peers at mail logs07:01
greghaynesI was reading a nice article about them searching somones luggage for bitcoins the other day07:01
tchaypobahahaha07:01
StevenKBwahaha07:01
tchaypoalthough that said, a friend of mine recently remembered that he did a spot of mining a few years back and had to rummage around physical backup media to retrieve his old wallet07:02
StevenKgreghaynes: Can I have a link, I have some friends who would be in stitches due to that?07:02
tchaypowith ~70 coins in07:02
greghaynesStevenK: http://boingboing.net/2014/03/01/tsa-agents-propose-secondary-s.html07:03
StevenKMar 10 18:01:13 mangled postfix/smtpd[12478]: connect from tcciisdc02.campaign.net.au[203.176.102.82]07:04
StevenKMar 10 18:01:13 mangled postfix/smtpd[12481]: connect from tcciisdc02.campaign.net.au[203.176.102.82]07:04
StevenKMar 10 18:01:13 mangled postfix/smtpd[12482]: connect from tcciisdc02.campaign.net.au[203.176.102.82]07:04
StevenKSIGH07:04
StevenKMorons07:04
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tchaypookay, I'm going to start ferreting into devtest to find the bits that set up rabbitmq on the undercloud. I think I need to know what we're doing now before I can figure out how to change it.07:09
tchaypoAnd also take a look at the xtradb-cluster changes07:09
greghaynesTheres a bunch of rabbit patches for making it clustered...07:09
greghayneshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/68393/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70236/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70238/07:10
greghaynesI think theres one im missing too07:11
greghayneshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/68392/07:12
tchaypothanks07:12
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tchaypoI'm going to look at these things tomorrow, when my brain is reattached to my body07:14
tchaypo"The file you have uploaded is not in the right format. Please upload using one of the following formats; JPEG, TIF, GIF, BMP, PNG, PDF, DOC or DOCX. "07:20
tchaypoDespite the message, changing the filename from .PDF to .pdf meant that it worked07:20
tchaypogreat validation!07:20
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rdopieralskitchaypo: the file name extension for the PDF format is traditionally .pdf, not .PDF07:24
rdopieralskialso not .Pdf, .pDF, etc.07:25
StevenKgreghaynes:07:25
StevenKBlah07:25
greghayneshai07:25
tchaypobut the error doesn't say "The file you tried to upload has a name that doesn't match our regex", it claims the format is wrong07:26
tchaypoI didn't change the format, just made a guess at what regex they might be using and changed the name07:27
rdopieralskitchaypo: I think it looks at the mime type of the file being uploaded, and that's set by your web browser. How your web browser does it depends on the browser and your operating system and is surely outside of the scope of OpenStack07:28
lifelessrdopieralski: nah, this stuff is terrible07:29
lifelessrdopieralski: you have no idea :)07:29
rdopieralskiok, sorry for butting in then07:29
lifelessrdopieralski: its 'enterprise'07:30
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StevenKI think I even know what that is for, too ...07:40
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openstackgerritFengqian Gao proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Do not use __builtin__ in python3  https://review.openstack.org/7926907:48
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tchaypordopieralski: very much outside the scope of openstack :) this is completely unrelated08:06
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GheRiveromorning all08:22
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openstackgerritstephen-mulcahy proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add basic timing instrumentation to devtest.sh  https://review.openstack.org/7756408:54
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derekhI see the overcloud job is working again, what was the fix ?09:15
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Add docstrings to the CLI actions  https://review.openstack.org/7765109:18
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openstackgerritRalf Haferkamp proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix compatibility link creation for mysql.sock on openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/7890909:28
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Add trove classifiers for specific versions of Python  https://review.openstack.org/7882509:28
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Remove multivalue attributes and roles from CLI  https://review.openstack.org/7755609:42
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Add docstrings to the CLI actions  https://review.openstack.org/7765109:55
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openstackgerritOm Kumar proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add build-essential for RHEL Cloud Images  https://review.openstack.org/7928610:03
openstackgerritMichael Kerrin proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install latest version of pip and virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/7507110:06
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Ngmorning10:17
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openstackgerritOm Kumar proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adds HHD Boot support in case PXE boot fails.  https://review.openstack.org/7928910:30
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openstackgerritAna Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Error out on too few nodes  https://review.openstack.org/7794210:36
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Make log_file and notifier_strategy configurable  https://review.openstack.org/7623811:10
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Make log_file and notifier_strategy configurable  https://review.openstack.org/7623811:11
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slagleis #topic still accurate? i just saw an overcloud job pass: https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/164/11:22
slagleso i'm guessing no11:22
Ngagreed11:25
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Additional services to support multiple swift storage nodes  https://review.openstack.org/7639111:30
openstackgerritOm Kumar proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adds HDD Boot support in case PXE boot fails.  https://review.openstack.org/7928911:30
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derekhslagle: ya somebody must have changed something but I don't know what was fixed11:45
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slaglederekh: cool, ok11:49
slaglederekh: for things like this: http://logs.openstack.org/66/74866/6/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/49c94a9/console.html, do you think we're hitting the timeout there?11:49
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derekhslagle: yup 19:57 - 22:22 is 2 hours 25 minutes (which is our current timeout), for now I think rerun it, when I discussed this with lifeless last week we decided to bypass the undercloud on overcloud jobs, i.e. run the overcloud on the seed, should improve the speed of this job a lot, will work on this today11:53
slaglederekh: ok, nice11:54
slaglei saw chatter on irc yesterday too about using cirros instead of building the user.qcow211:54
slaglenot sure if there was concensus around that though11:55
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derekhslagle: didn't see the chatter, worth a try but I'm not sure it would help since I think it would be finished building in the time it takes to being up the overcloud11:56
derekh2014-03-10 09:34:06.279 | Removing /opt/stack/new//user.qcow2-new11:58
derekh2014-03-10 09:34:06.332 | Waiting for the overcloud stack to be ready11:58
derekh2014-03-10 09:56:32.857 | /home/jenkins/.ssh/known_hosts updated.11:58
slagleah12:00
derekhlooks like it only take 3 minutes to build12:00
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openstackgerritStuart McLaren proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Glance: Add configuration hierarchy  https://review.openstack.org/7822612:07
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derekhahh I think they changed the flavor jenkins uses to double the ram12:11
derekh| ed153b31-6c42-4b2a-aa7d-ca3887d87729 | h1.large  | 16384     | 20   | 0         |      | 1     | 1.0         | True      |12:11
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derekhhmm, so the question is why do we need more ram all of a sudden12:12
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GheRiverohas anyone faced some eror like this before? http://paste.openstack.org/show/73022/12:14
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openstackgerritRyan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adds NFS backend support for cinder-volume  https://review.openstack.org/7456312:32
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rbradyGheRivero: never seen that before12:40
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ccrouch1derekh: ?13:35
ccrouch1(3:55:31 PM) lifeless: SpamapS: I've made the jenkins slaves 16G13:35
ccrouch1(3:55:39 PM) lifeless: lets see if this fixes it13:35
GheRiveroabout http://paste.openstack.org/show/73022/ the root part size passed to sfdisk in baremetal-deploy-metal is bigger than the actual disk (just reducing it a couple of megas do the job). Will go for luch and continue to debug later13:35
ccrouch1fwiw from friday afternoon13:35
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Node profile suggestions  https://review.openstack.org/7856313:44
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giulivoguys, I'm playing around with devtest, seems like this https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-incubator/blob/master/scripts/install-dependencies#L129 can only work if the user has sudo set with NOPASSWD, or it will require a tty and fail13:58
derekhccrouch1: Yup, looks like that fixed it, It causes the tmpfs for building images to be 8G instead of 4G, I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to being the requirment back down to where it was.13:59
giulivogiven we "trash-my-machine" maybe we can add in the scripts something which allows current user for sudo with NOPASSWD ?13:59
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openstackgerritStuart McLaren proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Glance: Add configuration hierarchy  https://review.openstack.org/7822614:04
bnemecgiulivo: No, that behavior is just broken.14:05
bnemecI have no idea how that ever works.  It fails on both Fedora and Ubuntu for me.14:05
bnemecApparently it's required for CI though.14:05
giulivohi bnemec, I think it creates a nested session for the user where it does have the appropriate group permissions14:06
bnemecgiulivo: Right, but it doesn't work because it only re-execs install-dependencies.14:06
bnemecAs soon as that returns you lose the group again.14:07
bnemecThe tty issue is a separate thing that I found a fix for, but it still won't work.14:07
giulivobnemec, I think exec replaces the shell, so you don't lose the group afterwards14:08
giulivobnemec, for the tty, isn't it the requiretty setting in sudoers preventing it from working?14:09
bnemecgiulivo: It doesn't work that way for me.  See the log attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/128528514:10
bnemecgiulivo: And yes, it's the requiretty.  We can get around that though without making changes to the system.14:11
giulivobnemec, interesting, with that merged there is no need to hack the requiretty thing, no?14:15
bnemecgiulivo: It got reverted.  Apparently CI is somehow dependent upon this broken behavior.14:16
* bnemec has no idea how that works14:16
giulivobnemec, oh now I get it14:17
giulivothat is why I couldn't see that in the checkout14:17
giulivobnemec, so to make current behaviour to work, what is the workaround you had in mind for requiretty?14:25
bnemecgiulivo: I think the fix I found was to run it using "script -c" so there is a fake tty attached.14:26
bnemecThat got past the no tty error on Fedora at least.14:26
rbradyslagle: tripleo-undercloud-precise failure: http://logs.openstack.org/12/74712/9/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-undercloud-precise/0727b69/console.html14:27
rbradyslagle: tripleo-overcloud-precise failure: http://logs.openstack.org/12/74712/9/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/e745249/console.html14:27
rbradyslagle: my overcloud issue is the timeout bug14:28
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openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Using flavors from Roles  https://review.openstack.org/7682614:34
openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Create stack in right order  https://review.openstack.org/7626714:34
openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fix of Overcloud Update  https://review.openstack.org/7685014:34
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Split the infrastructure.less  https://review.openstack.org/7817414:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Remove styles that conflict with horizon  https://review.openstack.org/7853814:57
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openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix baremetal flavor image size  https://review.openstack.org/7934415:25
rbradyIf anyone has any time, I'm still looking for reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74712/  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75017/  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78391/  and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74563/15:25
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix flake8 failures  https://review.openstack.org/7934815:53
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add +x to executable files  https://review.openstack.org/7934915:53
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Alphabetize all element-deps  https://review.openstack.org/7935015:53
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enforce alphabetical ordering in element-deps  https://review.openstack.org/7935115:53
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: WIP: Check that scripts are set -e  https://review.openstack.org/7935215:53
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add lint script for elements  https://review.openstack.org/7635915:53
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killer_princehi all15:56
killer_princedoes any one know what check-tripleo-undercloud-precise failure means.? I commitied a new element to tripleo-image-elements and jenkins shows failure in gerrit for check-tripleo-undercloud-precise and check-tripleo-overcloud-precise15:57
derekhkiller_prince: you can follow the link to the log of the job15:58
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killer_princederekh: i looked at the link but i can not see my element being used there and have no clue as to why it was falgged as a failure.. sorry i am new to this..16:01
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derekhkiller_prince: no prob, which review is it?16:02
killer_princederekh: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79289/16:02
killer_princederekh: do you know how to write test cases for tripleo-image elements..? is there a pointer that i can use..16:03
derekhkiller_prince: the ci is pretty much running devtest . looks like the overcloud job timed out (see console.html) 2014-03-10 13:55:23.521 | Build timed out (after 145 minutes). Marking the build as failed.16:05
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slaglerbrady: if you see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74712/ pass the CI, let me know and i'll +A it16:06
derekhkiller_prince: and the undercloud job must have hit a network blip, if you add the text "recheck no bug" in a review comment it will rerun the tests, I'm working on something at the moment to shorted overcloud jobs so less of them hit the timeout error16:06
derekh*shorten16:07
killer_princederekh: aha.. thanks for pointing it out. so does it mean that i need to take any action.16:07
killer_princek.. so you mean that i need to re-commit with updated commit message.. right..?16:07
derekhkiller_prince: nope,16:08
derekhkiller_prince: you just need to add a comment in gerrit16:08
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killer_princederekh: okay.. thanks..16:08
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add nfs-common package mapping  https://review.openstack.org/7839116:14
giulivorbrady, I got this http://hastebin.com/qahadagure.py when running devtest_seed.sh , does that have anything to do with the timeout you were facing earlier today?16:18
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petertoftIs there a TripleO logical system architecture picture somewhere that I could re-use?16:34
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rbradygiulivo: not sure if it had to do with http://logs.openstack.org/12/74712/9/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/e745249/console.html or not.  I have indeed seen your error many times in the past.  Sometimes initially, but most of the time I had one or more working deployments or overcloud before this issue arose.16:36
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cody-somervillepetertoft: Hi Peter. There may be suitable diagrams in this presentation: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-incubator/blob/master/presentations/TripleO%20architecture%20overview.odp16:38
cody-somervillepetertoft: Also, here: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-incubator/tree/master/images16:38
petertoftThanks Cody!16:39
cody-somervilleMy pleasure :)16:40
giulivorbrady, thanks I'm checking the console but to me this happens early in the seed setup process ... it is this thing failing http://logs.openstack.org/12/74712/9/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-precise/e745249/console.html#_2014-03-10_12_16_02_70816:42
rbradygiulivo: are you running through devtest?16:45
rbradygiulivo: or is this an issue in CI?16:46
giulivorbrady, no I'm playing a bit and going trough the steps16:46
giulivosomething went wrong with the seed as I don't have nova running there16:47
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Create raw disk image outside of tmpfs  https://review.openstack.org/7936216:51
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derekhlifeless: ^ this should remove the need to create 16G vm's in CI16:58
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Move install type enablement out of source-repositories  https://review.openstack.org/7879417:30
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SpamapSderekh: we need more RAM because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/128958217:36
SpamapSderekh: creating the raw image outisde the tmpfs all the time will slow things down...17:36
SpamapSderekh: what we need is to a) shrink images, and b) fix the heuristic to take into account that the loopback will grow faster than mv frees space.17:37
SpamapSderekh: right now the heuristic is wrong because we just assume the image will be ~ 2G.17:38
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derekhSpamapS: ok, although we're not assuming it fits into 2G, the assumption is it will fit  into (total ram)/ 2  (if total ram > 4G), but yes my patch will make it slower17:48
derekhSpamapS: we can't control how mv is implemented so remvoing it as a facter seemed like a good thing todo17:49
derekhSpamapS: although using an alternative to mv (if there is one) might work17:49
derekhSpamapS: looks liike our current build of the overcloud controler takes up 3.2G would be nice to make that smaller at the same time.17:50
derekhSpamapS: gotta run, will revisit later17:51
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lifelessmorning17:55
SpamapSwe really need to give derekh and dprince an IRC bouncer as an easter present.17:56
SpamapSPretty sure it isn't mv's fault, it is loopback/ext4's fault.17:57
SpamapSI will be poking at that with a stick shortly.17:57
NgSpamapS: +1 for the bouncer plan17:58
NgI still think it would be amusing to make cd-admins run their bouncers on one of our overclouds ;)17:58
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SpamapSYES17:59
SpamapSNg: s/amusing/necessary for caring/17:59
Ngwell, yeah, that was my thinking17:59
Ngbut the downside is that it would dramatically impinge our ability to communicate during downtime17:59
SpamapSNg: details18:00
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SpamapSNg: Ok, so here's the plan then. 1) start "IBaaS" (IRC Bouncer as a Service) project 1a) dance with glee as we name a new project something silly. 2) Make IBaaS HA. 3) profit.18:01
Nghaha18:02
Nglet's shop the idea around at the atlanta summit, see who we can get to fund the project18:02
SpamapSalternatively we could just expand Ceilometer's scope a bit more to include IRC bouncers.18:02
SpamapSNg: potential names for IBaaS: "Thug", "Meathead", "Daviey"18:03
Nghah18:03
NgI'd go with "Lurker" or "WiffWaff"18:04
* Ng ejects for dinner and suchlike18:04
lifelesswendar: morning :)18:06
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lifelessNg: btw - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79220/18:31
openstackgerritJon-Paul Sullivan proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add source-repository element var setting script  https://review.openstack.org/7439318:31
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slagleanyone around to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74866/18:33
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lifelessslagle: it needs a rebase18:40
slaglegah, bummer18:43
slaglebnemec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74866/ needs a rebase18:43
SpamapSgreghaynes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77283/ <-- also needs rebasing18:44
bnemecslagle: Thanks, I'll get that taken care of.18:45
greghaynes\o/18:46
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add RHEL 7 image element  https://review.openstack.org/7414618:49
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add redhat-common element  https://review.openstack.org/7486618:49
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Use redhat-common in fedora element  https://review.openstack.org/7486718:49
bnemec^Rebase goodness18:49
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Bash eval the lines in source-repository scripts  https://review.openstack.org/7605018:55
slagledoh, lost the +2's due to the README update18:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add rsync to the package list used by debootstrap  https://review.openstack.org/7601319:02
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add libaio1 to libaio pkg map for fedora  https://review.openstack.org/7728319:14
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openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Adds "provides" support to element dependencies  https://review.openstack.org/7942119:30
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petertoftI'm not seeing much action in the Tuskar channel. Can anyone here comment on the production-readiness of Tuskar?19:33
SpamapSpetertoft: Most of the Tuskar devs are based in Brno, Czech Republic, I think.19:34
petertoftI'm the only one in the irc channel atm!19:35
petertoftSame all day19:35
SpamapSpetertoft: I'd expect them all to be here too. Also most of them were in Sunnyvale last week so it is possible they are taking today as a travel swap day.19:35
petertoftOkie dokie -- thanks.19:36
SpamapSjprovazn: ^^ Would those statements be accurate?19:36
SpamapSpetertoft: from my perspective, it is probably not production ready.19:36
petertoftThanks.19:37
jprovaznpetertoft, SpamapS: Hi, I saw some folks online today19:37
jprovazn(from those being in sunnyvalle)19:37
jprovaznmmt19:38
lifelessNg: slagle: so is the topic correct, or not ?19:41
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SpamapSlifeless: oh I don't think so. overcloud is passing now19:45
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jdobpetertoft: SpamapS is right, the bulk of us were away most of last week19:49
jdobas for the production readiness, it's not  :)19:49
jdobwhat comes with icehouse should be considered tech preview and not suitable for production19:49
jdob(that sound way more negative than I intended it to)19:49
SpamapSjdob: what if you had more devs working on it?19:49
petertoftThanks, that's very helpful.19:49
jdobSpamapS: more people would definitely be useful19:50
jdobit's also a bit that we're still narrowing down the overall approach19:51
jdobcoming out of last week, I think we all have a much more clear idea, so we need to get that out to the mailing list19:51
lifelesshttps://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/check-tripleo-undercloud-precise/181/console is a little worrying, 14m to deploy the undercloud is way to long19:52
lifelessI think its going to fail19:52
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SpamapSlifeless: I've seen a couple take more time than they should19:54
lifelessjprovazn: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68392/8 is marked WIP19:54
jprovaznlifeless, only to make sure that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70238/ gets in first19:55
jprovaznlifeless, once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70238/ is merged, I'll remove WIP19:55
jprovaznlifeless, or should I use other strategy for cross repo deps?19:56
lifelessjprovazn: WIP is fine strategy, just confused me a little19:56
lifelessjprovazn: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68392/8/elements/rabbitmq-server/os-refresh-config/post-configure.d/40-rabbitmq - the NODES thing, is it a , separated string, or a list, in the JSON ?19:57
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/70238/ failed overcloud19:57
lifelesslooking at it19:57
jprovaznlifeless, ',' separated string (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/68392/8/elements/rabbitmq-server/README.md line 32)19:58
lifelesslooks like it hit timeout19:58
jprovaznlifeless, yes - I couldn't find more details, I think it's just because of not enough time19:59
jprovaznthus I reran with "recheck no bug"19:59
lifelessjprovazn: yes, and that failed again20:00
lifelessjprovazn: ok, so the , separated list is a little ugly, I think we may want to land and iterate once its in trunk though20:00
jprovaznlifeless, sure20:00
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jprovaznlifeless, regarding the overcloud fail - I can rerun locally but I don't see anything in the the patch what could cause the failure TBH20:01
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lifelesslovely nova;20:02
lifeless2014-03-10 16:59:49.233 3105 WARNING nova.network.neutronv2 [req-eb54925d-c466-4069-be4e-691e155ea85d None None] Using neutron_admin_tenant_name for authentication is deprecated and will be removed in the next release.  Use neutron_admin_tenant_id instead.20:02
lifelesssometimes I totally fail to understand the logic of these changes20:02
jprovaznlifeless, it's string separated because it's used also in opesntack config files20:02
jprovaznlifeless, mustache templates are driving me crazy sometimes20:03
jprovazns/sometimes/always/20:03
lifelessjprovazn: yeah, I can see that20:03
jprovaznback in 30m20:05
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lifelessok yay https://jenkins01.openstack.org/job/check-tripleo-undercloud-precise/181/console passed20:09
lifelessnow we wait for the overcloud likewise20:09
lifeless26m to boot undercloud. wtf20:09
lifelessI smell network perf issues20:10
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Clarify the platforms on which devtest currently runs CI testing.  https://review.openstack.org/7704820:13
openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix return not in function context for source-repositories  https://review.openstack.org/7943620:14
greghaynesugh, need to figure out how to use Lync from linux20:15
greghaynes... for 'security'20:15
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lifelessgreghaynes: im.extranet.hp.com20:17
greghaynesUse pidgin?20:17
greghaynesIve heard tales it may support this20:18
rbrady-afkI got a review through the CI!  Anyone have time to review it?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74563/20:21
lifelessgreghaynes: web page20:24
rcarrillocruz1you are right greghaynes, you need to install pidgin-sipe plugin to make it work20:24
greghayneslifeless: hrm, doesnt resolve for me20:24
greghayneser, it resolves, it doesnt serve20:24
lifelessgreghaynes: https://im.extranet.hp.com/20:25
lifelessgreghaynes: should pop up a cert prompt20:25
greghaynesah, no https redirect20:25
greghaynes*facepalm*20:25
greghaynesty20:25
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Move logic for creating new cache dir into a function  https://review.openstack.org/7944120:39
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openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Adds "provides" support to element dependencies  https://review.openstack.org/7942120:43
tchaypogreghaynes: I was going to be figuring that out later today... but now I won't be. Thanks!20:43
greghaynesthe web thing 'just worked'20:43
greghaynesonce I disabled adblock and popups20:43
greghaynesSo for certain values of 'just worked', I guess20:44
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tchaypoI get it spinning on "signing in" for a while, then giving up and telling me to sign in again20:52
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tchaypoI just set DIB_REPO(URL|REF)_diskimage_builder to try to make it use the version of DIB from my patch20:54
greghaynestchaypo: I had to disable adblock then refresh and it worked20:54
tchaypoit was only after it failed that I realised why that doesn't work20:54
tchaypoI have no ad block (unless firefox does something by default?)20:55
greghaynes*shrug*20:56
greghaynesI was getting that for a while though20:56
tchaypoI love the way computers are so predictable and dependable21:00
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rbrady-afkstill looking for reviews on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74563/21:11
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Don't abort execution if the new cache exists.  https://review.openstack.org/7944121:11
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SpamapSlifeless: so.. I think we need to do some brief cycles on making the full devtest run faster.. it will make everybody's life better21:16
SpamapSlifeless: I'm curious if we can get wheels going.. as that will surely drop minutes from the image builds21:16
greghaynesyes yes, ive heard that idea mentioned from multiple people21:17
greghaynesI think clarkb mentioned something about the OS pip mirrir which may build wheels for things that dont have them21:17
greghayneser, mirror21:18
clarkbyup openstack-infra/pypi-mirror which I thought tripleo was using21:18
clarkbwe don't consume wheels in the upstream gate yet but that mirror can make them for the platform you run it on21:18
SpamapSclarkb: we are using it and sometimes failing because we have older pip/venv21:18
SpamapShttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/7507121:18
SpamapSreviewing now.. we may land it if I like what I see :)21:18
clarkbSpamapS: gl we can't use latest venv and pip because lol21:19
clarkbbut we also tox whcih I don't think you do21:19
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: 98-source-repositories tries to return from script  https://review.openstack.org/7801221:21
SpamapSapproved :)21:21
SpamapSclarkb: we do not use tox in any of our devtest chain no..21:22
SpamapSclarkb: also are you sure you're not referring to the 1.11 fail? 1.11.1 is out and fixes the system-site-packages issues.21:22
clarkbSpamapS: there is a set of intertwined issues21:22
SpamapSoh lovely21:22
clarkbSpamapS: the biggest problem currently is tox bundles virtualenv21:22
clarkbwe can't use latest tox21:22
clarkbso we haven't botthered with latest virtualenv21:22
SpamapSbundling: for when you're out of fucks to give, but you have to git push NOW21:22
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install latest version of pip and virtualenv  https://review.openstack.org/7507121:23
SpamapSclarkb: wheels have to be built on the same python ABI as they're consumed right?21:28
clarkbSpamapS: not just python ABI but potentiall libc and so oon21:28
clarkbiirc21:28
clarkbSpamapS: whcih is why pypi-mirror shoves them under distro specific dirs21:28
openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/7567021:30
SpamapSclarkb: distro+arch?21:32
clarkbSpamapS: it probably should deal with arch but it doesn't21:33
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clarkbSpamapS: it does ubuntu 12.0421:33
clarkband centos 6.521:33
SpamapSclarkb: s/probably/must/21:34
jogoSpamapS lifeless: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/operators-feedback-mar1421:34
jogofrom the operator meetup that happend last monday21:34
clarkbSpamapS: well it isn't meant to be consumed generally21:34
clarkbSpamapS: so dragons and monsters21:34
jogointeresting tripleo comments in there21:34
SpamapSclarkb: It's a High prio bug, not the end of the world. :)21:34
SpamapSjogo: I see a lot of "sysadmin" like comments there. Not a lot of devops. ;)21:35
SpamapSas in, doom and gloom. Which, I used to do a lot of.. so I can sympathize.21:36
clarkbSpamapS: pip doesn't solve this problem for us so basically it is a giant hack regardless of what wedo21:36
jogothat aside there is a big disconnect apparently .. which is bad21:36
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SpamapSclarkb: I've been told that pip merges stuff occasionally. ;)21:37
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Adds block-storage-nfs template  https://review.openstack.org/7501721:37
clarkbSpamapS: apparently wheels are aimed at OS X and windows, so linux hacks are special21:37
greghaynesbnemec: RE your comment on source repositories env var21:39
greghaynesbnemec: that patch just landed in diskimage-builder21:39
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bnemecgreghaynes: Ah, nice.  Will try again then.21:41
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lifelessSpamapS: its not build time thats the real issue21:47
lifeless2014-03-10 19:51:02.147 | Waiting for the overcloud stack to be ready21:47
lifeless2014-03-10 20:46:03.097 | Timing out after 3000 seconds:21:47
lifelessSpamapS: we had lots of leeway there21:47
lifelessSpamapS: there is an overcloud bug21:47
SpamapSlifeless: and we're not pulling overcloud logs out yet21:48
lifelessso, lets add that to that that series21:48
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lifelessalso man, how to make things awkward. *thanks* nova.21:49
lifelessjogo: can you explain to me the reasoning behind https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/129054021:49
lifelessjogo: I've just put a comment on it21:50
lifelessjogo: two in fact21:50
lifelessin fact, this makes it impossible for heat to deploy OpenStack21:51
lifelessunless we have some way of hardcoding tenant uuids21:52
lifelesswe'll have to deploy, use the API, stack-update to inject the found values for the tenants.21:53
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lifelessor perhaps keystone v3 is just nuts21:54
jogolifeless: I haven't seen that one yet21:54
SpamapSthats neutron issues isn't it?21:54
jogoI4a4ffe84fdcf98ace81fd148f096cad483aad96c21:55
lifelessjogo: right21:55
jogo    Keystone v3 supports non-unique project/tenant names, so21:55
jogo    Nova should switch to using tenant ID for admin authentication.21:55
SpamapSwhy21:55
SpamapSdo they keep21:55
SpamapSdoing this?!!21:55
jogoso nova doesn't even support keystone v3 yet21:55
SpamapSUnique names are a useful thing21:55
SpamapSWTF!!21:55
jogoSpamapS smash21:55
* SpamapS smash21:55
jogoso I really dislike this piecemeal porting to v321:56
jogobecause we end up with crud like this21:56
lifelessjogo: I'm disliking v3 :)21:56
lifelessjogo: this isn't a feature21:56
jogolifeless: so there is a long thread on  v3 and related whatnot that vish started21:56
jogoor at least thats what I think its about21:56
jogokeystone just churned out a new API without much input from other OpenStack projects21:57
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jogolifeless: btw https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/operators-feedback-mar14 has some pretty harsh things to say about tripleo21:58
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morganfainberglifeless, here now21:58
lifelessmorganfainberg: hey, thanks :)21:58
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morganfainberglifeless, looking at that commit right now21:59
lifelessjogo: I saw that last weeek, haven't had time to really process it21:59
SpamapSjogo: I responded with some diplomatic WTF's21:59
jogoneither have I, but figured someone should respond21:59
morganfainberglifeless, i am fairly certain you can use project name + domain name21:59
jogoSpamapS: thanks!21:59
lifelessmorganfainberg: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23tripleo/%23tripleo.2014-03-10.log for backscroll here22:00
lifelessmorganfainberg: ok, so we *don't* need to use id22:00
lifelessmorganfainberg: which means we can revert that commit22:00
morganfainberglifeless, but project (tenant) names are not unique globally since they are namespaced to domains in V322:00
morganfainberglet me confirm that though really quickly22:00
openstackgerritRichard Su proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Swift storage heat templates  https://review.openstack.org/7844622:00
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morganfainbergdon't want to be feeding you terrible data22:00
morganfainbergthis is auth, right?22:00
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morganfainbergfor a scoped token22:00
lifelessmorganfainberg: I presume so22:02
morganfainberglifeless, ok so i am wrong :(22:03
lifelessmorganfainberg: oh ?22:03
morganfainbergi think22:03
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/79470/22:04
morganfainbergrunning through the code, it looks like it's missing some key "domain" info22:04
morganfainbergfor auth, e.g. need ids.22:04
lifelessmorganfainberg: on the keystone side?22:04
morganfainbergyeah22:04
jogoSpamapS: where did you respond22:04
morganfainberglifeless, this is something that i think i could land a fix for (even backported to H)22:04
morganfainbergif it's really missing22:04
lifelessmorganfainberg: fixable though, right? I'd /much/ rather be able to say '..._name=ops/service' or something.22:04
morganfainberglifeless, oh i would say that being able to specify either ID or name+domain should be 100% valid22:05
lifelessmorganfainberg: so what is a domain in keystone v3? Is it like teant ?22:05
lifeless(I know I'm showing massive ignorance here...)22:06
morganfainberglifeless, domain ids are like tenant ids22:06
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morganfainbergbut domain names are constrained to be unique as well22:06
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morganfainbergso a lookup by name should be valid22:06
lifelessmorganfainberg: so three level hierarchy rather than two? (domain/tenant/user vs tenant/user) ?22:07
morganfainbergdomain/user domain/project22:07
morganfainbergand tokens are user - project22:07
lifelessso we'd creat a service domain, which will be unique22:07
morganfainbergsure, but you can't do "everything" in keystone w/o a project.22:08
lifelessand a service/service project which is the replacement for the service tenant22:08
morganfainbergsure.22:08
lifelessand a service/neutron user which is a replacement for the neutron user22:08
lifelessetc ?22:08
morganfainbergyeah22:08
morganfainbergthat sounds right22:08
lifelesslet me put that in the revert proposal22:08
morganfainbergwe also need to make sure keystone supports auth w/ userName, ProjectName, and DomainName22:09
morganfainbergwhich is what i'm checking right now22:09
rbradyanyone: still looking for reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74563/22:09
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lifelessright, but it *should* vs doesn't want to22:09
morganfainbergi will 100% support getting that fix in22:09
morganfainbergand happily fight to make that happen22:09
morganfainbergit's dumb if we can't support that22:10
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SpamapSjogo: in the etherpad22:11
morganfainbergaha22:11
lifelessSpamapS: write-once data :P22:11
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morganfainberglifeless, we do have helper methods to make this work.22:11
jogoSpamapS: it maya be worth starting a proper thread on this22:11
jogoetherpad isn't the best for discussions22:11
morganfainberglifeless, so you can auth w/ project name, domain name, and user name (if you want)22:11
morganfainbergor any combination of id / name for those three22:12
SpamapSjogo: yes I agree22:12
morganfainberglifeless, obviously you want the name/name/name method22:12
morganfainbergthe structure would be Domain: Service, in that domain you'd have User "neutron", project "service" and a role that grants Neutron whatever it needs on that project.22:13
lifelessmorganfainberg: see my review, I've put prose in it about this22:14
morganfainberglifeless, cool.22:14
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rlandySpamapS: ping ... rbrady says you're the guy to ask about heat issues22:18
lifelessoh22:19
lifelesswe need a bigger network for direct overcloud deploy22:19
SpamapSrlandy: sometimes :)22:20
rlandySpamapS: :) ... good enough -  have you seen this ... deploying an overcloud with control, compute and cinder nodes. the cinder node is still in 'build' status but 'heat stack-list' reports CREATE_COMPLETE http://paste.openstack.org/show/73083/22:21
SpamapSrlandy: no, that might be a bug22:22
SpamapSrlandy: Heat waits for ACTIVE22:22
SpamapSrlandy: can you paste 'heat event-list overcloud' ?22:23
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SpamapSlifeless: I'm getting a failure to deploy overcloud because of NoValidHost22:24
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lifelessSpamapS: interesting22:36
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Give the seed and undercloud more IPs to work with  https://review.openstack.org/7948022:37
lifelessSpamapS: nova compute logs have anything interesting in them ?22:37
lifelessmy patch is failing on 2014-03-10 16:25:32.303 3246 WARNING nova.network.neutronv2 [req-0b47e4df-2264-4c45-a8ba-084d375bd017 None None] Using neutron_admin_tenant_name for authentication is deprecated and will be removed in the next release.  Use neutron_admin_tenant_id instead.22:40
lifeless2014-03-10 16:25:32.545 3246 ERROR nova.api.metadata.handler [-] Failed to get metadata for ip: 192.0.2.222:40
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openstackgerritJonathan Brownell proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Disable hostname overwriting by cloud-init on Debian  https://review.openstack.org/7730122:42
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SpamapSlifeless: I see PXE failed 3 times for NovaCompute122:56
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derekhlifeless: added info to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79220/ to explain the overcloud failure22:58
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lifelessderekh: ah! thank23:01
lifelessderekh: also though we need more ips in the seed23:01
lifelessderekh: https://review.openstack.org/7948023:01
derekhlifeless: yup, thats needed too23:01
lifelessderekh: I put this patch up in your weekend, figured I'd get the ball rolling23:01
derekhlifeless: then it works23:01
derekhlifeless: I hadn't noticed it and started working on it aswell23:02
derekhahh well23:03
lifelessderekh: sorry :(23:03
derekhlifeless: np23:03
lifelessso, lets get the node arch from the json23:03
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SpamapSlifeless: I have all three sitting at "waiting for notice of complete"23:12
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lifelessSpamapS: look in nova-compute and baremetal deploy helper logs23:14
lifelessderekh: ^ that shouod do it plus the seed range fix; did you have a version of that pushed up ?23:16
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run overcloud deploy tests against the seed.  https://review.openstack.org/7922023:16
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SpamapSlifeless: ahh, my earlier fail:23:18
SpamapS2014-03-10 21:51:18.601 3473 TRACE nova.virt.baremetal.deploy_helper OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/disk/by-path/ip-192.0.2.5:3260-iscsi-iqn-d288bff8-12b1-414e-aafa-e70648e1fd38-lun-1'23:18
derekhlifeless: nope nothing was pushed up, hadn't put the patches together until I knew I had it working23:19
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derekhlifeless: I had NODE_ARCH=amd64 setup-baremetal ....   , yours isn't inline so I guess it should be exported23:22
lifelessderekh: repiushing23:23
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run overcloud deploy tests against the seed.  https://review.openstack.org/7922023:23
SpamapSlifeless: hm, we may be timing out tgtd or smoething23:24
derekhlifeless: lgtm on both23:25
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lifelessSpamapS: getting anywhere ?23:52
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