Thursday, 2014-03-20

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derekhhmmm, new testenv having problems "ovs-vsctl -- --may-exist add-br br-ctlplane" hasn't returned for 7 minutes00:27
derekhopenvswitch-switch.log : libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.11.0-15-generic/modules.dep.bin'00:27
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lifelessderekh: derekh oh, I was just about to do that ;)00:31
derekhlifeless: I've only tried testing it on a singe  host00:31
derekh*single00:31
lifelessok, so CI is idle00:32
lifelessderekh: I'll pull down the stack and redeploy00:32
derekhlifeless: ok00:32
derekhback in a few00:33
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tchaypotoday's obvious-in-hindsight learning - running _overcloud.sh just after sourcing overcloudrc does not lead to happiness00:45
lifelessrotfl00:47
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StevenKlifeless: bnemec commented on my patch to source _variables in tripleorc as overkill, WDYT?00:53
tchaypoStevenK: https://www.opal.com.au/asset/a23667fa-bfa7-431d-812c-88b6a81e6b66/Opal_train_rollout_Sequence_4.png00:53
StevenKtchaypo: See, exactly. Southern Sydney gets much later.00:54
lifelessStevenK: url plox00:54
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StevenKlifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80445/00:55
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derekhlifeless: did you delete the overcloud testenv ports?00:57
StevenKWTF, opal.com.au? A *dropdown* to select birth year?00:58
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lifelessderekh: fark :(00:58
lifelessderekh: we *have* to add that to deploy-testenv00:59
derekhlifeless: I don't think its too late none of them are fully up yet00:59
derekhlifeless: if any fail we can rebuild them, yup needs to be added to script00:59
lifelessits on the way00:59
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derekhI'm on 10.10.16.145 , /opt/stack/os-config-refresh/configure.d/60-setup-testenvs seems stuck on + ovs-vsctl -- --may-exist add-br br-ctlplane01:03
derekhlifeless: ^01:03
lifelessI have a terrible feeling that Ng merged the patch that broke this last time01:03
lifelessderekh: how are you logged into it01:04
derekhlifeless: ssh'd on a heat-admin (ssh to undercloud with -A)01:04
lifeless     |-os-collect-conf---sh---os-refresh-conf---dib-run-parts---60-setup-testen---ensure-bridge---ovs-vsctl01:08
lifelessos ovs-vsctl is stuck yes01:08
lifelessovs-vsctl show01:10
lifeless55e16be4-381e-435a-a665-9a4389bbcaca01:10
lifeless    Bridge br-ctlplane01:10
lifeless        Port br-ctlplane01:10
lifeless            Interface br-ctlplane01:10
lifeless                type: internal01:10
derekhlifeless: hmm, looks like the wronge kernel is running01:10
lifeless    ovs_version: "1.10.2"01:10
derekhLinux testenv-testenv1-ekmeaqq2y3b5 3.11.0-17-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 3 21:52:43 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux01:10
lifelessLinux testenv-testenv1-ekmeaqq2y3b5 3.11.0-17-generic #31-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 3 21:52:43 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux01:10
lifelesswhat were you expecting ?01:10
derekhdrwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Mar 20 00:02 /lib/modules/3.11.0-18-generic01:10
derekhlibkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.11.0-17-generic/modules.dep.bin'01:11
lifelessah, I know01:11
StevenKI wonder which kver modules are in the initramfs01:11
lifelessI didn't have baremetal in the elements list01:11
StevenKlifeless: Is that done by hand?01:11
derekhlifeless: opps, neither did I, so the backward compat mode in load-image is broke?01:13
lifelessStevenK: the build, atm yes.01:13
lifelessderekh: no, I think it picked up a prior one built with that01:14
lifelessderekh: -rw-r--r--  1 root root   22072553 Feb 23 22:48 testenv-worker.initrd01:14
lifeless-rw-r--r--  1 root root  621022208 Mar 20 00:10 testenv-worker.qcow201:14
lifeless-rw-r--r--  1 root root    5631792 Feb 23 22:48 testenv-worker.vmlinuz01:14
StevenKHeh. That would do it.01:14
lifelessderekh: gun, foot.01:14
StevenKlifeless: We should script this01:14
derekhahh, ok01:15
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: We should use baremetal.  https://review.openstack.org/8168301:16
tchaypoSo here's an odd thing that StevenK will be interested in01:16
bkeroCan anybody think of a good explanation behind why a seed vm isn't responsive? http://pastebin.osuosl.org/6271/01:17
StevenKtchaypo: But only me? :-P01:17
tchaypoI take a train wolli creek -> town hall, pay $2.87. Get out, walk around for a while, back onto the train at museum and out to rhodes, charged another 42c01:17
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tchaypoThen I get back on the train at rhodes and travel back to redfern01:17
tchaypoFare for this leg: -$0.9801:18
StevenKHaha01:18
tchayposo my total fare for the whole trip was $2.31, exactly as if I'd travelled WC->Redfern01:18
tchaypoyes, only you :)01:18
StevenKtchaypo: That case is covered on the Opal site01:18
tchaypowhere? I knew that they were doing something like that for busses, didn't realise it applied to trains.01:20
StevenKUsing Opal, your fare can be cheaper when making several trips on the same mode of transport, e.g. only ferries, only trains or only buses, if you transfer between services within 60 minutes.01:21
StevenKtchaypo: https://www.opal.com.au/en/fare-information/60_minute_transfer/01:21
tchaypoAll the examples I've seen on the site show you continuing further. The example on that page has someone travelling hornsby->town hall, then town hall-> central. They end up paying for hornsby->central, which is more than hornsby+>town hall but cheaper than two single trips01:23
StevenKIt obviously still works for your case :-)01:23
tchaypoThe site doesn't show what would happen if you travel hornsby->town hall->waitara, but it looks like you only pay hornsby->waitara and the rest of your journey is free01:24
lifelesshmm, haven't setup testenv builds to use the bandersnatch mirror01:24
lifelessreally should do that01:24
StevenKtchaypo: Clearly it already works and has saved you money01:24
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lifelesstchaypo: theres a dude wrote a fare calculator01:25
tchaypohttp://www.opalornot.com/ ?01:26
clarkbwhat is with those transit cards all having names that start with 'O'01:26
clarkbopal, orca, oyster, octopus01:26
lifelessI am getting more and more tempted to do a http://blog.backblaze.com/2013/02/20/180tb-of-good-vibrations-storage-pod-3-0/01:27
lifelessjust to have that many spinning platter concurrent IOPS01:27
StevenKclarkb: Where are the orca and octopus cards from?01:27
lifelessadd in a 120GB SSD bcache...01:27
clarkbStevenK: orca is seattle, octopus is hong kong01:27
openstackgerritSaurabh Surana proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: added elements for building trove service components  https://review.openstack.org/7727201:28
StevenKclarkb: Just to disrupt your pattern, Melbourne's transit card is "MyKi"01:28
lifelesstchaypo: yeah, think so01:28
StevenKlifeless: opalornot is for commuting01:28
StevenKNot for one-shot trips01:28
openstackgerritSaurabh Surana proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: added elements for building trove service components  https://review.openstack.org/7727201:31
tchaypoI ended up buying a mymulti1 weekly yesterday, because most of my trips involve a train into the city and then buses around the city/camperdown/randwick01:32
tchayposo it expires on march 26, the opal readers are officially active march 28 (although I've been using them for weeks)01:32
StevenKtchaypo: Don't you mean Town Hall to Granville on FB? :-)01:32
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tchayposo my cheapest option is opal for the trains + traveltens for the busses, but that's just so darn fiddly...01:33
lifelessre-running with pypi mirror, it was too slow01:33
StevenKtchaypo: I do wonder why buses are *last* for Opal01:33
tchaypoStevenK: nope. I went wolli creek -> rhodes -> redfern and got charged wolli creek -> redfern01:33
lifelesstchaypo: where are you going ?01:33
StevenKtchaypo: Your comment on FB01:33
StevenK"With trains, it seems as though a trip from Parramatta to Town Hall and return to Granville within 60 minutes will be charged as a trip from Paramatta to Granville." <= Don't you mean Town Hall to Granville01:34
tchaypoI've been working some afternoons from unsw or usyd libraries01:34
StevenKOH01:34
StevenKI thought you started in TH01:34
StevenKNever mind me01:34
lifelessok, thats about a billion times faster but if course noew it fails.01:35
lifelessNote, selecting 'zlib1g-dev' instead of 'libz-dev'01:35
lifelessNote, selecting 'libxslt1-dev' instead of 'libxslt-dev'01:35
StevenKtchaypo: Looks like I was pretty right on the money ordering my card today -- should turn up on the 27th01:36
StevenKtchaypo: I wonder how they cope with Parramatta -> Town Hall -> wander around for <60 minutes -> Parramatta01:37
tchaypoMy guess is that in that case they'll note that C=A and charge A->B01:37
tchaypoI'm guessing that their logic breaks when C!=A01:38
tchaypoand they charge from A-C when A-B would be more appropriate01:38
StevenKYeah, I did think it would collapse to a one-way fare01:38
tchaypohuh. now that i think about it01:38
tchaypoi bet the same is true on busses01:38
tchaypoand given that most sydney bus stops are about 5m away from the next one01:38
StevenKHaha01:38
StevenKNot in Parramatta :-P01:39
tchaypoif do something like city-> bondi jn->city but get off one stop before/after your original stop, I bet you pay for a mybus1 instead of a mybus3...01:39
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add testenv image building to deploy-testenv  https://review.openstack.org/8168601:39
tchaypoIn Brisbane they detect if you travel in the reverse direction on the same route, and the start a new trip instead of giving you a transfer on the old one01:40
tchaypoclarkb will be interested to know that brisbane's card os the Go card. Doesn't start with O but it still features the sound...01:40
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derekhlifeless: 4 testenv ports left behind on overcloud, I'll delete them01:41
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add testenv image building to deploy-testenv  https://review.openstack.org/8168601:45
lifelessok build01:56
lifelessstill kindof slow01:56
lifelesssomething weird going on in the networkstack even to local addresses01:56
lifelessdeploying01:58
tchaypoAM I right in guessing that one of the baremetal nodes is used for the undercloud and the other 3 become the overcloud?01:58
lifelessyes01:59
lifelessthough guesswork shouldn't be needed01:59
tchaypoI'm guessing I could have discovered this in ~30 seconds of code reading01:59
lifelesstchaypo: or docs ;)01:59
tchaypoand so I'm going to go do some of that after lunch.02:00
tchaypothere are docs?02:00
bkeroIs this the correct thing to find at the end of /var/log/upstart/os-collect-config.log? http://pastebin.osuosl.org/6276/02:00
bkeroMy devtest.sh is ending with http://pastebin.osuosl.org/6271/02:00
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openstackgerritClint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: WIP: Really ugly first switch to software-config  https://review.openstack.org/8166602:02
lifelessbkero: the o-c-c log looks ok02:02
SpamapSstevebaker: ^^ updated .. actually produces overcloud.yaml02:02
lifelessbkero: the seed boot failure may be a detection error rather than a boot failure02:02
lifelessbkero: did SEED_IP get set correctly, or did the vm come up on a different ip ?02:03
bkerolifeless: I don't see SEED_IP as being set02:04
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lifelessbkero: the get-vm-ip cal, IIRC02:05
bkeroHuh, grepping through the scripts I see SEEDIP and SEED_IP being used. Yay.02:05
bkeroI see a get-vm-mac02:06
lifelessit gets put in testenv.json02:07
lifelessjq -r '.["seed-ip"]' testenv.json02:07
lifelessis the returned value correct?02:08
bkero  "seed-ip": "",02:08
bkero  "host-ip": "192.168.122.1",02:08
bkerodat seed ip is blank02:08
bkeroI'm trying this on a clean trusty install vm running inside libvirt-kvm02:09
lifelesshave a look through scripts/boot-seed-vm02:09
lifelessbkero: you're running this needed within a VM ? likely to end badly02:09
lifelessbkero: specifically, the libvirt subnet is a constant (192.168.122.0/24) and that makes routing a PITA02:10
bkerolifeless: Yeah, I changed the outside libvirt subnet to something different02:10
lifelessstability of nested kvm can be a problem02:10
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add redhat-common element  https://review.openstack.org/7486602:10
lifelessand running openstack in qemu vms is waaaay to slow02:10
bkeroI see. What's the recommended strategy then? A different hypervisor such as virtualbox or xen?02:11
lifelessrun devtest on baremeta02:11
lifelesswe put lots of effort into making it minimally invasive02:11
bkeroOkay02:11
bkeroI guess the indicator I was waiting for was the removal of --trash-my-machine :)02:11
lifelessother than making a few vms and a bridge to host them on02:12
lifelessbkero: that is intended to provoke folk reading up on what we do02:12
lifelessit may be overly scary, but no warning would be bad too02:12
bkeroThat's true02:12
bkeroI suppose I should read the whole set of scripts and determine if it's invasiveness is something I could live with on my laptop02:12
bkeroOr just set up a separate host for it02:12
lifelessindeed02:13
lifelessmost of us run it on ourlaptops or servers02:13
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Use redhat-common in fedora element  https://review.openstack.org/7486702:13
bkeroSo in a vm is a here-be-dragons usecase?02:13
lifelessits expected-to-fail02:13
tchaypoyou end up with vms in the overcloud running on vms running inside your vm02:14
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bkeroyo dawg02:14
bkeroI realized that, but was just using for testing02:14
lifelessyeah02:15
lifelessI mean02:15
lifelessin principle02:15
lifelessit should just be slow02:15
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tchayposure, slow. When I did it, I kicked off devtest.sh and it wasn't complete 24 hours later02:16
bkeroDamn02:16
tchaypoto be fair, at the time I also didn't have squid or any of the pip/pypi mirrors/caches set up, so that might have been some of the cause for slowth02:17
lifelesstchaypo: nah, not _that_ slow02:17
lifelessthats qemu02:17
bkeroThis should still be accelerated (nested kvm was indeed passed through), but several levels of indirection make it...slower. Running devtest.sh to the point I've gotten only takes about 15 minutes.02:17
clarkbwhen I tried it it took almost an hour for ssh to start iirc02:17
tchaypoalso that was an 8Gb VM, so it would have run out of ram eventually...02:17
tchaypoThis was running on precise qemu inside a vmware fusion VM02:17
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bkeroThis VM has about 32GB RAM and 32 cores. :)02:17
tchaypohrm. I has mailroom parcel.02:19
tchaypoconsisting of boxes 3.02:19
lifelessbkero: so, anyhow - the boot-seed-vm script is failing02:19
lifelessbkero: so read that to debug02:19
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bkerolifeless: got it, thanks02:19
bkerolifeless: for future reference are most devs running saucy, precise, or trusty on the bare metal?02:20
derekhlifeless: redeploying ?02:20
derekh | 39ea394e-cc0a-438e-8e75-0f04b622bab0 | overcloud      | CREATE_FAILED   | 2014-03-02T23:28:27Z |02:21
derekhopps, ignore that paste, wronge cloud02:22
derekhok, gotta go to bed, I see its coming up again02:26
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lifelessbkero: saucy probably02:30
lifelessbkero: or F2002:30
* bkero will go the saucy route, I'm more experienced with the debugging02:31
bkerolifeless: Thanks!02:31
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StevenKlifeless: I think we'll always need a tripleorc for the PATH addition02:37
lifelessStevenK: _variables can do that idempotently, no ?02:39
lifelessStevenK: (and, asserting a final value for path rather than a delta is rather ugly, no?)02:39
StevenKlifeless: Final value is also hard02:39
StevenKFor example, I have ~/bin in my PATH02:39
lifelessright02:40
StevenKlifeless: Taking that to its logical extreme, then _variables turns into tripleorc and we that source in devtest02:40
lifelessStevenK: we source _variables already02:41
lifelessStevenK: in devtest02:41
StevenKI know, I'm just turning it on its head to see if you follow02:41
lifelessso I don't want us to write to _variables02:41
lifelesstripleorc is intended for 'I have it working and I want to log back into the vms after a break'02:41
lifelessAIUI02:42
lifelesspersonally, I've never had cause to use it02:42
lifelessso I may be missing something02:42
StevenKSome of the environment variables never actually hit my shell when running devtest02:42
lifelessright02:43
StevenKSo I've had to pull it in when I need to talk to one of the clouds02:43
lifelessthe elimination of many sourcings cleaned things up a lot02:43
lifelessStevenK: you should only ever need the rc file + TE_DATAFILE set, + a route, to do that today.02:43
StevenKlifeless: Then I should do what bnemec suggested and export TE_DATAFILE in tripleorc ?02:44
lifelessStevenK: I don't know, what is the problem you're solving02:44
StevenKConnecting to any of the clouds that devtest has bought up02:44
lifelesssource devtest_variables; source overcloud-rc; nova list02:45
StevenKSo then tripleorc should do so02:45
StevenK_variables will be needed whichever cloud02:46
lifelesswhy ? how does tripleorc know that you want overcloud-rc or undercloud-rc ?02:46
lifelessmy question is, why are you sourcing tripleorc for this use case ?02:46
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Correct README.md markdown errors  https://review.openstack.org/8100302:46
StevenKlifeless: Because I may need $PATH back02:47
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Completly subsume POWER_MANAGER into testenv  https://review.openstack.org/8169102:50
StevenKlifeless: ^ Baby steps for killing tripleorc02:50
lifelesshmm http://www.protocase.com02:54
lifelessStevenK: which _variables will do :)02:54
StevenKlifeless: Yeah, I'm beginning to see I can just do '. _variables' and ignore tripleorc02:55
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StevenKlifeless: I had assumed that the new CI would be up after I got up, which turned out to be false. Not rushing you, just wondering on status02:59
StevenKHuh03:02
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lifeless| testenv1                    | 9e99628b-59ab-4a1a-a381-8315f43c541a | CREATE aborted                        | CREATE_FAILED      | 2014-03-20T02:48:55Z |03:02
StevenKSomeone is trying to backport lifeless and I patch for don't try and restore VMs in ERROR state to havana03:03
lifelesswell03:09
lifelessit didn't come up properly03:09
lifelessbut we did get 32 envs up03:10
lifelessgood enough03:10
lifelessStevenK: try your backward compat cleaner now03:10
lifelessSpamapS: slagle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81126/ is ready03:15
lifelessStevenK: I am confuse https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81120/03:17
lifelessStevenK: did you try it with tenant *id* or *name* ?03:18
lifelessStevenK: (I know the setting is called _id03:18
StevenKI tried it with a literal 'service'03:18
lifelessok, so it works03:18
lifelessStevenK: can you comment to that effect there ?03:19
StevenKI did so03:19
StevenKIt worked locally, but didn't on the testenv03:19
lifelessStevenK: ok, btw the change needs to include in it the undo of derek's patch to bypass this03:20
lifelessStevenK: otherwise we can't tell if it works03:20
StevenKI think I was testing it without derek's patch03:22
StevenKI don't think I knew about the patch at the time I was testing03:22
lifelessyes, he wrote it that night03:25
lifelessbut03:25
lifelesscan you push 81120 again with his thing undone in it?03:26
StevenKYeah, let me rebase it and then undo derek's patch03:26
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add configuration required for neutron-nova events  https://review.openstack.org/8112003:32
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lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/79051/ <- I may be thoroughly confused.03:45
StevenKlifeless: No, I think I am03:45
StevenKI keep treating jq as "open file, do stuff, write results"03:46
StevenKWhich is just wrong03:46
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lifelesshmm, CI might not be up after all :(04:12
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lifelessNobodyCam: do you mind if I have a poke at your patches?04:24
lifelessNobodyCam: I think it might be clearer if I sketch what I mean in code04:24
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Store seed details in the JSON  https://review.openstack.org/7905104:33
lifelessStevenK: nearly04:37
StevenKI wonder if it's clear I'm not actually testing :-(04:38
StevenKAhh, the good ole tempfile leak04:39
StevenKAlways entertaining04:39
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Store seed details in the JSON  https://review.openstack.org/7905104:42
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StevenKlifeless: Hm, I wonder if we want to pull seed-route-dev into seed:{} as well04:45
lifelessStevenK: oh I forgot04:46
lifelessStevenK: also we need the new things documented in the schema04:46
lifelessStevenK: yes, I think so.04:46
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Store seed details in the JSON  https://review.openstack.org/7905104:58
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Remove backwards compatability in setup-baremetal  https://review.openstack.org/7846705:00
StevenKMore dead code, I love it.05:00
lifelessman the gate is unhappy today05:09
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lifelessStevenK: so why aren't you testing, devtest_testenv.sh is like 3 seconds of code to run :)05:31
lifelessStevenK: another iteration... more things to consider ;)05:32
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lifelessStevenK: around ?05:36
StevenKlifeless: Hm?05:36
lifelessStevenK: I wanted to chat about setup-baremetal vs register-nodes responsibilities05:37
StevenKlifeless: I did consider marking seed-ip and seed-route-dev as DEPRECATED in that patch, but I was going to do so in the follow-up05:37
lifelessbut hangon NMI from C05:37
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lifelessok mostly back05:59
lifelessStevenK: so, deprecations - I think its a bit poor two have two forms for something and one not deprecated unless one intends to run with both indefinitely05:59
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lifelessStevenK: but I'm looking at register nodes / setup-baremetal06:00
lifelessStevenK: and I'm a little concerned about whether putting everything in one script is a good idea06:00
lifelessStevenK: e.g.06:01
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lifelessStevenK: but I guess mainly I think it should be talked through and captured e.g. in the commit message06:01
lifelessStevenK: the patch as it stands both removes backwards compat cruft and changes the interface and behaviour of register-nodes.06:02
lifelessStevenK: since you're not looking at IRC right now, I'll drop a brain dump of my rough thoughts and you can decide what makes sense from that06:03
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lifelessStevenK: there are conceptually two things setup-baremetal does06:09
lifelessa) it fixes up the initial nova db to be suitable for bare-metal (deleting extraneous flavors)06:11
lifelessb) it asserts a configuration suitable for using a list of nodes06:13
lifelessconceptually we should only do a) once; if the user adds in m1.small and wants to later add more nodes to their cloud, we shouldn't delete m1.small at that point06:14
lifelessfor b) there are two common ways for such tools to work, one is delta based: register some nodes, unregister some nodes. the other is full state based ('here are my nodes, make them usable')06:15
lifelessI don't have a view on delta vs full today, though it seems attractive to me to have a simple complete database and be able to just assert that full set straight into nova-bm/ironic. That would make interacting with existing DC management systems fairly straight forward - export everying, apply to Ironic, done.06:16
lifelessso, putting aside future work to fully support heterogenous nodes etc, it seems to me that anything that is part of (a) shouldn't be in register-nodes, as register-nodes should be safe to run post-deploy.06:17
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lifelessregister-nodes is delta based today, so it'd be later future work to make it full-state based.06:20
lifelessAnyhow, those are my thoughts.06:20
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mordredsomeone said something to me in here07:14
mordredbut I dont' see it in the scrollback07:14
mordredso if it was important, you know, ping me again07:14
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StevenK01:55 < SpamapS> mordred: ack07:15
StevenKThat's all I can see07:15
mordredStevenK: thanks :)07:15
lifeless00:58 < mordred> lifeless, SpamapS, Ng: SpamapS patch to pypi-mirror seems to be unhappy on integration gate07:15
lifeless03:55 < SpamapS> mordred: ack07:15
mordredcool07:15
mordredI want to make sure I'm giving you guys love on that patch07:16
StevenKlifeless: Can you distill that braindump and put on the patch?07:16
lifelessI can copy-paste it07:16
StevenK*I* can do that07:16
StevenKlifeless: I did wonder if I was going too far with making setup-baremetal only call register-nodes.07:16
StevenKmordred: Discussion re: summit is still happening? Do you have rough estimate on news?07:17
mordredStevenK: I keep poking rajeev - he's travelling with hme this week and is more swamped than we want him to be07:18
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StevenKmordred: Other people are talking about travel and I'm getting jealous :-P07:20
lifelessStevenK: I don't have a more distilled version07:20
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StevenKlifeless: I've just filtered out IRC nicks, so pasting07:21
lifelesscool07:22
StevenKWhich now looks like rubbish07:22
lifelessdouble blank lines for paragraphs, leading space for no-wrap07:23
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StevenKAnd no editing comments07:28
StevenKSo bleh07:28
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix deprecated use of django.conf.urls.defaults  https://review.openstack.org/8103507:30
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openstackgerritOm Kumar proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Refactor code to select boot kernel  https://review.openstack.org/7987307:48
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rpodolyakamorning all08:22
lifelessmorning08:23
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lazy_princeslagle: https://review.openstack.org/79873 i have updated the code as per review comments. can you please review it again..08:51
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derekhlifeless: morning09:23
derekhlifeless: looks like ci isn't up because device names have changed from eth* to em*09:24
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derekhlifeless: I'll redeploy now09:27
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lifelessderekh: oh nuts09:35
lifelessderekh: thanks!09:35
derekhlifeless: np, new instances deploying, fingers crossed09:35
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derekhlifeless: going to upgrade geard on the te-broker while its booking09:38
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lifelesscool09:48
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openstackgerritCian O'Driscoll proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Sets disks in devtest run to sda rather than vda.  https://review.openstack.org/8176410:37
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openstackgerritCian O'Driscoll proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Sets disks in devtest run to sda rather than vda.  https://review.openstack.org/8176411:06
openstackgerritCian O'Driscoll proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Sets disks in devtest run to sda rather than vda.  https://review.openstack.org/8176411:07
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lifelessderekh: I'm off to sleep, did testenv get happier ?11:19
lifelessderekh: also is there any help you want on the RH region machines?11:19
derekhlifeless: jobs have started passing https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/check-tripleo-seed-precise/344/11:19
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derekhlifeless: dprince sent me a mail last night to say he has figured out the dhcp problem, so hopfully we are all good, if not I can call you in later11:20
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add RHEL 7 image element  https://review.openstack.org/7414611:33
openstackgerritOm Kumar proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Refactor code to select boot kernel  https://review.openstack.org/7987311:41
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Adding Fedora support to toci_gate_test.sh  https://review.openstack.org/8179612:23
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Cause wait_for heat stack-create fail fast  https://review.openstack.org/7653712:29
derekhpleia2: I see you fedora support in nodpool merged, yay, I've submitted patches to get us started using it12:30
pleia2derekh: I still have some pip issues to work out :(12:31
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pleia2puppet isn't finding pip installed via the script12:31
derekhpleia2: ahh ok, anything I can help with?12:32
pleia2derekh: I'll let you know, just set up a VM to see if I can dig into what's wrong12:32
derekhpleia2: ok12:32
rbradyderekh: ping12:37
derekhrbrady: ack12:37
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* Ng has delivered his talk to FLOSS UK, got a reasonable crowd and some good questions after12:39
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Ngthere seem to be lots of university sysadmins here, so maybe the particle physics guys will adopt us for deploying their clusters :)12:40
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derekhNg: make sure your on commission12:46
Nghah12:46
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openstackgerritRyan Brady proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix tgt target in cinder element  https://review.openstack.org/8180413:08
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jp_at_hpSpamapS: Ng GheRivero tchaypo - I want to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80644/ moving, and to do so I need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81174 moving.  What do I need to do to make this happen?13:30
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openstackgerritAndrea Frittoli  proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Inject admin username and tenant name in config  https://review.openstack.org/8181313:42
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Increase the default pip socket timeout  https://review.openstack.org/8181513:58
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SpamapSjp_at_hp: to get things moving, ping us. I'll pop yours to the top of reviews. Please note: http://www.stackalytics.com/report/reviews/tripleo-group/open14:22
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NobodyCamlifeless: Nat at all!14:24
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SpamapSNobodyCam: top 'o the mornin to ya14:27
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NobodyCamSpamapS: Good morning to you !!! How goes the battle this morning :)14:32
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Set selinux default to permissive on Fedora  https://review.openstack.org/8182614:49
derekhactually that might have been a stupid idea, rwsu if https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74607/ is working maybe we should push that through instead14:51
pleia2derekh: if you have a minute, a second pair of eyes on these fedora+pip errors would be helpful, I can toss your ssh key up on the server I'm using14:52
derekhpleia2: yup, go for it14:52
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fall back to $0 if BASH_SOURCE is unset  https://review.openstack.org/8153914:53
rwsuderekh: there are actually more problems after mysql, nova key-pairs is the next thing you'll hit, so selinux enforcing won't work for now14:54
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derekhpleia2: have you got my key https://launchpad.net/~derekh/+sshkeys14:54
pleia2derekh: added to line 21+ the way to replicate the problem I'm seeing on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/fedora-on-gate14:55
derekhrwsu: ok, lets set to permissive, I'll test you sql patch later14:55
pleia2adding key now14:55
pleia2derekh: fedora@15.185.191.18114:56
derekhpleia2: looking14:57
pleia2derekh: so it works ok if we yum install python-pip, but that makes -infra folks cry :)15:01
pleia2(I had it in an earlier revision of the main patch, but had to remove it)15:02
derekhpleia2: ok15:02
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jp_at_hpSpamapS: thanks15:04
derekhpleia2: still looking, nothing to report yet15:14
pleia2derekh: thanks15:15
derekhpleia2: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/lib/puppet/provider/package/pip.rb#L4115:17
derekhln -s /usr/bin/pip /usr/bin/pip-python15:17
derekhNotice: Finished catalog run in 16.37 seconds15:18
pleia2derekh: I think that's a deprecated issue that was fixed in more recent rh versions15:18
pleia2but if that fixes it, perhaps I'm wrong! (I was reading related bug reports)15:19
derekhpleia2: bug reports for fedora ot puppet ?15:20
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pleia2I think it was this one http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/1703015:22
pleia2and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=95837715:23
uvirtbotpleia2: Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.redhat.com: HTTP Error 404: Not Found15:23
pleia2but the last was a python-pip package thing15:23
derekhpleia2: looks to me like they fixed puppet to work with the yum packaged pip but it no longer works with the python package15:28
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pleia2derekh: yeah, seems so, want me to add that symlink and give it a try?15:29
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derekhpleia2: yup, sounds reasonable to me15:30
pleia2ok, on it15:30
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pleia2\o/15:32
pleia2thanks derekh, writing patch now15:32
derekhpleia2: no prob15:32
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Set +x on executable files  https://review.openstack.org/8163315:41
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Alphabetize all element-deps  https://review.openstack.org/8163515:41
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add dib-lint script  https://review.openstack.org/8163415:41
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: WIP: Make sure all scripts are set -e  https://review.openstack.org/8163715:41
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Enforce alphabetical ordering of element-deps  https://review.openstack.org/8163615:41
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Ensure which is installed on Red Hat  https://review.openstack.org/8183615:44
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add cinder-tgt element to overcloud create command  https://review.openstack.org/7846415:54
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openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Use "python -m coverage" rather than use "coverage" explicitly  https://review.openstack.org/8076215:59
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openstackgerritStuart McLaren proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Glance: Add default policy.json file  https://review.openstack.org/8184016:09
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howleytHi all16:13
openstackgerritStuart McLaren proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Glance: Add default policy.json file  https://review.openstack.org/8184016:13
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howleytI'd like to add a config file to an element, which is only created if a certain condition is met in parameter. So I'd like to either create the file with content or not at all. Is this possible?16:17
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SpamapSNobodyCam: hah, you took too long to respond, by then I was knee deep in the tornado that is "get the kids to school"16:44
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NobodyCamSpamapS: heheheh :) its all good :)16:44
SpamapShowleyt: for what you want to do, I suggest writing the file out always with templates, but then in an os-refresh-config script, moving it into place based on said condition.16:45
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SpamapShowleyt: so like, element_root/os-apply-config/etc/something/.foo.conf <-- template path and then just mv it into place, or rm it, based on the parameter.16:46
howleytspamaps: Ok, that sounds easier than what I had in my head. Thanks. Need to try os-refresh-config for first time now.16:48
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howleyt(I was thinking of using the executable templates and using that render the moustache into the actual destination conf file.)16:49
SpamapShowleyt: yeah, so far we haven't had much use for executable templates.. though I do think we should use it for calculating the memory buffers for mysql.16:49
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derekhCould I get some eye on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81815/ it should help improve the situation with fetching pip indexes17:28
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derekhopp, adding bug number17:29
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bnemecderekh: A couple of typos inline too.17:32
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: TEST ONLY: make nova depend on common-venv  https://review.openstack.org/7998917:32
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Openstack-clients: don't hard code venv  https://review.openstack.org/7998817:32
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Update elements to use os-svc-daemon -i.  https://review.openstack.org/7696317:32
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Update elements to use os-svc-install -i.  https://review.openstack.org/7696417:32
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Wire in OPENSTACK_VENV_DIR default if set  https://review.openstack.org/7696517:32
bnemecIs there a reason our ci environment is slow fetching the index?17:32
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Wire in _EXTRA_INSTALL_OPTS...  https://review.openstack.org/7696617:32
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add a new common-venv element  https://review.openstack.org/7696717:32
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add -i options to os-svc-install/os-svc-daemon...  https://review.openstack.org/7695217:32
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Increase the default pip socket timeout  https://review.openstack.org/8181517:33
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derekhbnemec: packets sometimes get delayed for some reason, the time I reproduced it there was a 23 second delay (although it could also be the server responding to us)17:35
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Increase the default pip socket timeout  https://review.openstack.org/8181517:38
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bnemecslagle: So it looks like we always do the create_dir step in os-svc-daemon for systemd.  Should I do the same thing for upstart?17:43
bnemechttps://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/os-svc-install/bin/os-svc-daemon#L17517:43
slaglebnemec: it already always happens for upstart17:46
slaglebnemec: line 9817:46
slaglethat's why i was confused by the -117:46
bnemecslagle: Right, but I'm looking to add explicit name support like I did in my change.17:47
bnemecConsidering that though, it probably makes sense to not do both, so I'll make it an else block.17:48
bnemecAnd since nothing actually uses this right now, if that doesn't work then someone who needs to use it can fix it to work how they want. :-)17:49
slagleyea, SpamapS could say what he was looking for there i guess17:49
slaglethe upstart service is not created exactly the same way17:49
slagleit uses one service file, whereas the systemd uses 217:49
slagleso i'm not sure if he wanted to see upstart use 2 as well17:49
slagleor just allow you to override the name17:50
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bnemecWell, I'll propose what I've got and if anyone doesn't like it they can always -1.17:50
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SpamapSeh?17:54
SpamapSI want you to be able to override the name in upstart the same way you do in systemd.17:54
SpamapSIt is pretty simple to parameterize the directory creation bit that upstart has.17:54
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add no-op cinder-tgt element  https://review.openstack.org/8186717:55
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add /var/run/[name] support for upstart  https://review.openstack.org/8186817:55
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add mysql-mariadb-compat element  https://review.openstack.org/7803417:55
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add cinder-lio element  https://review.openstack.org/7846317:55
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Factor out tgt-specific parts of cinder element  https://review.openstack.org/7846217:55
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Allow os-svc-daemon to specify dir name with -d option  https://review.openstack.org/7803317:55
bnemecBah, rogue whitespace.17:58
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bnemecSpamapS: That's a different meaning for -d than what systemd is using it for though.18:04
bnemecThe systemd path _only_ creates the /var/run/[name] service if you pass -d.18:04
bnemecAs I understand it (and am using it), this is intended to address differences in what a package installs and what our configuration expects.18:05
bnemecSo in my case the RHEL package installs /var/run/mariadb, but our tripleo configs use /var/run/mysql18:05
SpamapStchaypo: could you prioritize fixing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81174/4 ?  It is blocking jp_at_hp's patch which looks to be just about ready and will be quite important for his work.18:08
* SpamapS shakes fist at Oracle and MontyProgram for being so pigheaded18:09
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slagleSpamapS: right, ok, i just wasn't sure if you wanted to see the ability to have the create dir service separate for upstart as well18:26
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SpamapSslagle: I don't know why systemd needs that18:29
NobodyCamStevenK: up and about yet?18:29
slagleSpamapS: not sure either. it could probably just use ExecStartPre instead18:31
slaglehowever, there are some cases where we're defining services to just create /var/run/... dir's.18:31
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SpamapSslagle: and that is pretty normal since /var/run is empty at boot18:35
SpamapSslagle: one (silly) reason to have it be a separate service is that you can only do the mkdir /var/run/foo one time, but the service re-starting won't cause it to run again like it would if you used ExecStartPre...18:36
SpamapSslagle: I think it is just "we like it this way".. and that is fine. We upstart minded folk just use pre-start :)18:36
openstackgerritTrent Geerdes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding more .deb dependencies for pypi-mirror on 13.10  https://review.openstack.org/7995118:37
Lotus907efijang: are you around?18:51
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NobodyCamlifeless: happen to be up and about?19:24
SpamapSbnemec: took me a bit to understand the -d flag. I have a solution proposed that would make this MUCH simpler.19:24
bnemecSpamapS: Okay, I'll give that a try.  I think it will work for slagle's package installs too, although it will require changes in those elements.19:29
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SpamapSslagle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80445/ <- you bring up good points. This is likely mailing list worthy.19:38
slaglenot sure i have much fuel left to explain why it's useful to me19:39
SpamapSHah I do understand.19:40
slaglei suppose if *everything* was in the json file the only thing you'd have to define via export would be $TRIPLEO_ROOT19:40
SpamapSslagle: if we replaced it with never sourcing anything .. wouldn't that be better?19:41
SpamapSslagle: for typical developers, I suggest even TRIPLEO_ROOT is overkill19:41
SpamapSthat is a CI / automation / concurrency thing19:41
SpamapSfor devs.. ~/.cache/tripleo is the spot19:41
slaglenot really, i often do fedora vs ubuntu19:42
slaglesource vs package etc19:42
slaglei have a different tripleo root for each19:42
slagleotherwise, images overwrite each other, etc19:42
slaglelikewise if i'm testing patches applied to git repos underneath TRIPLEO_ROOT19:43
saurabhshey guys I need help to understand why check-tripleo jobs failed for my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77272/. any help?19:43
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pleia2tripleo-fedora-tripleo-test-cloud-1.slave.openstack.org :D :D!!19:51
bnemec\o/19:51
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SpamapSslagle: mm ok, so you aren't typical .. and that would still only be one variable.. :)19:52
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SpamapSpleia2: \o/19:53
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SpamapSpleia2: unrelated, but you can take credit, as I read that, I spit chili all over my desk.. (it was too hot.. but still... you made me spew chili!)19:53
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pleia2haha19:53
pleia2add more cheese, makes it less hot19:54
SpamapSpleia2: thats the problem.. my first bite was nicely temperate because it was mixed with the sour cream19:54
SpamapSsecond bite.. well.. second bite is a rorschach now19:55
pleia2:)19:55
openstackgerritRichard Su proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Custom service file is not needed for qpidd on systemd based hosts  https://review.openstack.org/8190119:58
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Increase the default pip socket timeout  https://review.openstack.org/8181520:03
geerdestwas just looking at stackalytics and curious why this commit doesn't show up at  http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/tripleo-image-elements/30            https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76281/20:04
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bnemecThat stackalytics page seems have some significant issues going on.  2, 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 5, 10 :-)20:07
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bnemecIIRC, they have a launchpad project setup for stackalytics, so you might open a bug there.20:08
geerdestk thanks20:10
saurabhsSpamapS: I am trying to add Trove elements to triepleo-image-elements, can you suggest me why check-tripleo jobs are failing for my commit, I looked at the logs, but couldn't figure out what is wrong.20:10
saurabhshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/77272/.20:10
lifelessNobodyCam: I am; C is now at kindy so its full steam ahead20:12
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openstackgerritRichard Su proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: qpidd user should own sasldb file  https://review.openstack.org/8190820:29
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NobodyCamhey hey lifeless, sorry 'bout that was otp with my dad :-p,20:33
lifelessshocker20:34
NobodyCamhey had a question, you were looking to remove the POWER_MANAGER setting from devtest, I'd like to keep it for ironic, just change its usage to a bit so that I can use it to mmodify create-nodes to write it in to the nodes json20:35
NobodyCamsomething like this: (example from devtest_variables) http://paste.openstack.org/show/betHTq3Cy8VTwNZeZbL7/20:37
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lifelessNobodyCam: so if I have my own hardware20:38
lifelessNobodyCam: I should be supplying my own nodes list20:38
lifelessNobodyCam: AIUI there is just one right setting for emulated baremetal VMs20:39
NobodyCamok, so I can hard code ssh power control in the create-nodes and if someone is using real HW with ipmi they will have there own nodes data / json20:40
lifelessI think so yes20:41
NobodyCam:) much easier... Ty lifeless :)20:41
lifelessthe reason we have to parameterise it for nova-bm is because its a global setting20:41
lifelessrather than being data driven20:41
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geerdestsaurabhs: 'Build timed out (after 125 minutes). Marking the build as failed.'  looks like CI is down.20:56
saurabhsgeerdest: should I just resubmit the change so that this gets triggered21:00
lifelessgeerdest: what patch set ?21:01
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geerdesthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/77272/21:06
lifelessok, that was when CI was down yesterday (We redeployed but didn't cater for the biosdevname change initially)21:08
lifelessso, 'recheck no bug' it.21:08
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openstackgerrittom-howley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: WIP - Add keepalive option to rabbitmq config  https://review.openstack.org/8192021:09
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saurabhsgeerdest lifelss: I am sure current CI job is not doing anything for Trove, how can I hook up Trove elements so that they get built in these jobs. where are the scripts for these jobs?21:11
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lifelesssaurabhs: look at e.g. 25e6f8356c741c6d4ce3a60d7a4882a749cd0444 in openstack-infra/config21:14
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openstackgerritJon-Paul Sullivan proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Create pip manifest files of installed packages  https://review.openstack.org/8064421:19
openstackgerritJon-Paul Sullivan proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Make os-refresh-config install.d hook run later  https://review.openstack.org/8117421:19
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enable os-collect-config for the package install  https://review.openstack.org/8192721:59
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Lotus907efiis there some docuementation that would tell me how to build overcloud images from a different distro, like debian testing for instance?22:05
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SpamapSLotus907efi: NODE_DIST22:14
SpamapSLotus907efi: You will likely need 'debian-upstart' since TripleO only supports upstart or systemd22:15
Lotus907efihmmm22:15
SpamapSThough given recent events somebody should probably just make the debian image use systemd :-P22:15
SpamapSLotus907efi: looks like devtest_veriables.sh has some helpful stuff22:16
Lotus907efiok, I will look at that22:17
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openstackgerritRichard Su proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Update selinux policies for mysqld  https://review.openstack.org/7460722:22
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Lotus907efiso in devtest_veriables.sh it talks about setting NODE_DIST to one of three values fedora, opensuse, or ubuntu22:26
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Lotus907efidoes that mean setting it to "debain" would not work?22:26
Lotus907efidebian22:26
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SpamapSLotus907efi: I'm quite sure using 'debian' wouldn't work because you'd have no upstart and no systemd.22:30
StevenKNobodyCam: At 0530? I recognize one 5 o'clock a day22:30
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SpamapSLotus907efi: I would support a patch which adds systemd to the debian element though.22:31
NobodyCamStevenK: I blame lifeless for actually being up and on at times. Sorry for the early ping22:32
StevenKNobodyCam: No worries, it only turns up in my away log22:34
StevenKNobodyCam: lifeless and I don't even share a timezone, though ...22:34
NobodyCam:) this is true, for some odd reason my brain always wants to lump you two in to the same TZ22:36
StevenKNobodyCam: Which was true, about ten years ago22:38
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SpamapSNobodyCam: just because they're all hanging upside down doesn't mean they do so at the same longitude. ;)22:39
NobodyCamlol :)22:40
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Lotus907efihmm, I am reading some online docs and it seems systemd "might" be included in debian testing but not used by default22:48
SpamapSLotus907efi: The issue is that upstart won't be default either.. but systemd has "won"22:50
SpamapSLotus907efi: so the options for TripleO on Debian are: 1) use upstart and pray it stays a thing (Even Mark Shuttleworth has said it's over). 2) use systemd 3) Grow sysvinit scripts for all of the openstack services.22:51
Lotus907efiyeah, that is what I see from the reading I have done22:51
Lotus907efihmm, ugly22:52
SpamapSI say this as somebody who wrote a chapter of the upstart cookbook. ;)22:52
lifelessman pip is so fragile22:52
openstackgerrittom-howley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add RabbitMQ keepalive parameters to overcloud template  https://review.openstack.org/8193422:52
* StevenK throws a few more darts at his dartboard22:52
Lotus907efiso the openstack service init scripts are dependent on upstart?22:55
Lotus907efii.e. they are upstart based?22:55
openstackgerrittom-howley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: WIP - Add RabbitMQ keepalive parameters to overcloud template  https://review.openstack.org/8193422:55
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lifelessalso my god requests is slow22:56
lifelessit takes *seconds* to download babel from a mirror on the same host22:56
lifelessLotus907efi: upstart or systemd22:56
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StevenKlifeless: "people jump on TripleO recently and they've22:58
StevenKbeen capturing their experiences with tooling and performance"22:58
StevenKlifeless: I totally read 'tooling' as trolling for a few seconds22:59
lifelessStevenK: TripleO as the largest troll ever? hmmm intruiging22:59
SpamapShahahahaha23:00
SpamapSLotus907efi: part of the awesomeness of upstart and systemd is that they made system startup declarative.. so we don't have to reinvent all the logic of starting servers over and over again.23:01
Lotus907efiah, I see23:01
StevenKWell, to be fair Debian tried that with sysv too23:02
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SpamapSStevenK: do you mean openrc, or something else?23:04
lifelessStevenK: for users, not so much for packagers, until recently23:04
StevenKSpamapS: The declarations on the top of the init scripts23:06
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SpamapSStevenK: that's just LSB .. not at all related to the actual script.23:07
SpamapSdefinitely better than not having LSB.23:08
saurabhslifeless SpamapS : I am trying to figure out how to integrate heat template for trove in tripleo-heat-templates. if I understand correctly the merge.py script will look at all the various yaml provided to it and it will club all the parameters together then club all the resources together and then generate a overcloud.yaml. So in trove.yaml needs to have matching resource names and parameter names so that they get clubbed together. is this understanding co23:10
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SpamapSsaurabhs: correct.23:13
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lifelessderekh: o/23:24
derekhlifeless: o/23:25
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lifelessderekh: I see testenv stack failed still23:29
lifelessderekh: what device name should we use for deploys - em0? 1? 2? .. ?23:29
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: remove keystone-signing dir creation  https://review.openstack.org/7498923:29
derekhlifeless: ahh, I didn't notice that one of them mustn't have responded to the wait condidtion in a timely mannor or something23:30
derekhlifeless: em3 I think it was, give me a minute to check what went wrong23:30
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Adding Fedora support to toci_gate_test.sh  https://review.openstack.org/8179623:31
lifelessLotus907efi: how did your colleagues cross-rack prformance turn out? any progress?23:37
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lifelessSpamapS: slagle: +2's needed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81126/23:38
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/74393/23:39
derekhlifeless: looks like all the testenvs manages to register with neutron, things are working, maybe I just didn't set the waitcondidtion timeout high enough23:39
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/81011/23:40
lifelessderekh: could be23:40
lifelessderekh: em3 yes?23:40
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/81012/23:40
derekhlifeless: yup em323:41
lifelessStevenK: slagle:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80445/https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80445/ <- can you two decide whether we want this change or not ?23:42
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/81126/23:42
lifelessSpamapS: slagle: ^ so yeah, 5 easy fixes waiting on review :).23:42
derekhIf we had graphs you'd see about a 10% speed improvement since the new test env deploy23:44
lifelesswicked. ALso how.23:44
SpamapSthe tubes23:45
derekhlifeless: I'm putting it down to the unsafe disk cachine stategy23:45
SpamapSthats how23:45
SpamapSlifeless: all 5 +A'd23:45
lifelessSpamapS: wicked23:45
SpamapSlifeless: I hit the review queue pretty hard today23:46
lifelessslagle: I think I'm going to +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81764/ unless you've got a specific case thats broken by using sda ?23:46
SpamapSwhile waiting for:23:46
SpamapS+ wait_for 300 10 stack-ready overcloud23:46
SpamapSTiming out after 3000 seconds:23:46
SpamapS| 9e8f4431-3ebe-46de-87b1-251dc2676355 | overcloud-NovaCompute0-6hazjbjmfwgn | ERROR  | -          | NOSTATE     |                     |23:47
SpamapSGot a NoValidHost. :(23:47
lifelessSpamapS: also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78020/ wondering if you want to rethink your +2 ;)23:48
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slaglefwiw, init-keystone was doing a lot more than initializing keystone before my changes :)23:49
SpamapSlifeless: no, I agree with you that we can/should split it out, but I'm not so convinced that we _must_.23:49
slaglebut, i'm fine to split it out23:49
slaglewill be a couple days before i can get to it though23:49
lifelessslagle: huh ? it doesn't in my tree23:50
SpamapSslagle: note that you _could_ use the script that landed in heat now.23:50
lifelessoh, someone put swift gunk into it23:50
lifeless5ee999646f13d7bfaea2a6b445312af53e7b1647 tsk23:50
SpamapSheat/tools/create_heat_domain is basically the same thing23:51
slaglelifeless: creating users is hardly keystone initialization anymore than creating a domain is23:51
SpamapSbut done in python23:51
SpamapSslagle: well you do have to create the bootstrap admin.23:51
SpamapSkeystone just isn't useful w/o that23:51
lifelessslagle: they shouldn't be there. I pared it down to the minimum needed to be able to use the keystone API a long time ago.23:51
lifelessslagle: its a regression.23:51
* SpamapS plays dramatic DUH DUH DUHHHHHHHHH23:52
SpamapSnoooooooooobody expects the spanish inquisition.. or regressions23:52
slaglelifeless: ok...that's not what your review said23:53
slaglebut, yea, i get it now23:53
* NobodyCam raises hand, Can I have the comfy chair?23:53
slaglecreating initial data in keystone is different than initializing keystone23:53
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Remove non-bootstrap code from init-keystone.  https://review.openstack.org/8194423:53
lifelessslagle: here - ^23:53
lifelessyou'll note that there is a heat user being created already adjacent to where I moved the swift stuff23:53
lifelessits a nuisance to duplicate those calls; I think we definitely want a common wrapper23:54
lifelessbut not init-keystone :)23:54
slaglesure, i get it now23:54
lifelessslagle: sorry yes, not meaning to rub it in23:54
slagleit just wasn't clear in the review...that's all23:54
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lifelessslagle: ok; if I say things that aren't clear please do say 'uhh WAT' at me :)23:55
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lifelessNobodyCam: ok I'm going to attempt the refactorings I requested for the ironic stuff23:57

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