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| Lotus907efi | so how do I build a overcloud image from precise? | 00:06 |
| SpamapS | Lotus907efi: not recommended | 00:09 |
| SpamapS | Lotus907efi: actually.. we don't use nbd anymore, so it might work | 00:09 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: builds should be fine | 00:09 |
| Lotus907efi | nbd? | 00:09 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: it was always libvirt and ovs we had issues with | 00:09 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I was remembering the slowness as "precise sucks for dib" .. forgot that we fixed that :) | 00:10 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: qemu-nbd too IIRC | 00:10 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: for speed yes, but not functionality | 00:10 |
| SpamapS | but we wrote that out long long ago | 00:10 |
| lifeless | yup | 00:10 |
| Lotus907efi | so I would like to see if I can do two things: a) boot a VM with precise and b) boot a real baremetal node with precise | 00:11 |
| SpamapS | that may work... precise only gets really ugly when you start wanting to use it for compute node / network node | 00:14 |
| SpamapS | oh and you have to backport a few missing things like jq | 00:14 |
| Lotus907efi | really? | 00:15 |
| Lotus907efi | no jq in precise? | 00:15 |
| Lotus907efi | SpamapS: so I see an E-mail from you were it says: There should be no problem at all building precise. | 00:16 |
| Lotus907efi | DIB_RELEASE=precise | 00:16 |
| Lotus907efi | 00:16 | |
| SpamapS | Lotus907efi: Right, you can build precise. Whether you can build everything on precise .. I don't know | 00:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Allison Randal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Pass undercloud metadata to overcloud compute https://review.openstack.org/81552 | 00:20 |
| Lotus907efi | so to create a precise image I set that variable and then do... $TRIPLEO_ROOT/diskimage-builder/bin/disk-image-create $NODE_DIST -a $NODE_ARCH -o $TRIPLEO_ROOT overcloud-compute hosts baremetal nova-compute nova-kvm neutron-openvswitch-agent os-collect-config dhcp-all-interfaces $DIB_COMMON_ELEMENTS $OVERCLOUD_COMPUTE_DIB_EXTRA_ARGS 2>&1 | tee $TRIPLEO_ROOT/dib-overcloud-compute.log ??? | 00:20 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add Ironic support to incubator. https://review.openstack.org/81959 | 00:25 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Remove backwards compatability in setup-baremetal https://review.openstack.org/78467 | 00:25 |
| lifeless | StevenK: ^ the fixes we discussed, since I had a few minutes | 00:25 |
| lifeless | Lotus907efi: the VM will be a problem, because libvirt and ovs in precise are lacking | 00:26 |
| Lotus907efi | hmmm | 00:26 |
| Lotus907efi | so how about just creating the image so I can boot a real node from it? | 00:26 |
| lifeless | Lotus907efi: why do you want precise for these bits? | 00:26 |
| Lotus907efi | hpcloud is currently built on precise | 00:26 |
| lifeless | Lotus907efi: you can build images that are themselves precise | 00:26 |
| Lotus907efi | ok | 00:27 |
| Lotus907efi | I am not trying to run devtest on precise | 00:27 |
| Lotus907efi | just trying to create overcloud images with precise | 00:27 |
| lifeless | Lotus907efi: but I would be concerned about running the undercloud infra itself on precise; precise for the overcloud should be just fine. | 00:27 |
| Lotus907efi | ok, so just overcloud | 00:27 |
| lifeless | Lotus907efi: export DIB_RELEASE=precise | 00:28 |
| lifeless | before building your overcloud images | 00:28 |
| Lotus907efi | recall the other day when I was trying to figure out the slowness on that devtest run on that other system? | 00:31 |
| Lotus907efi | I am seeing on my system too that when python stuff is happening from my pypi mirror that things take 25 - 30 sec each operation before something happens | 00:32 |
| Lotus907efi | so soemthing like: Downloading/unpacking pbr>=0.5.21,<1.0 (from os-apply-config) | 00:32 |
| Lotus907efi | then it waits 25 - 30 seconds before any output beyond: http://15.126.28.132/pypi/mirror/pip/ uses an insecure transport scheme (http). Consider using https if 15.126.28.132 has it available | 00:33 |
| Lotus907efi | is that 25 - 30 sec pause normal when pulling from an internal pypi mirror? | 00:35 |
| Lotus907efi | or do I have something wrong here? | 00:35 |
| openstackgerrit | lifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add Ironic support to incubator. https://review.openstack.org/81959 | 00:36 |
| lifeless | Lotus907efi: 25-30 seconds sounds like a timeout of some sort | 00:37 |
| lifeless | Lotus907efi: are you using --offline? | 00:37 |
| Lotus907efi | yeah, that is what I am thinking | 00:37 |
| Lotus907efi | but it is just a http fetch right? | 00:37 |
| lifeless | Lotus907efi: if you don't, the pypi element will still have the official pypi mirror listed | 00:37 |
| Lotus907efi | or does it do something "special" that I am not aware of? | 00:37 |
| Lotus907efi | where do I set "--ofline" | 00:38 |
| Lotus907efi | --offline | 00:38 |
| lifeless | export DIB_COMMON_ELEMENTS="stackuser --offline" | 00:38 |
| Lotus907efi | hmm, no I don't have that | 00:38 |
| lifeless | the --offline inhibits git pulls except if the repo hasn't been cloned at all, stops checking for ubuntu base image updates, and trusts that the pypi mirror is authoritative | 00:39 |
| Lotus907efi | hmmm | 00:39 |
| Lotus907efi | ok, let me restart my devtest run and see what diff this makes | 00:39 |
| Lotus907efi | so it should look like: export DIB_COMMON_ELEMENTS="stackuser --offline apt-sources use-ephemeral pypi" | 00:41 |
| lifeless | yes | 00:41 |
| Lotus907efi | or does the offline thing have to go at the end? | 00:41 |
| lifeless | anywhere | 00:41 |
| Lotus907efi | or it doesn't matter? | 00:41 |
| Lotus907efi | cool | 00:41 |
| Lotus907efi | wow, lots faster! | 00:43 |
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| Lotus907efi | so there is no way to put export DIB_RELEASE=precise in there somewhere so it ONLY affects the overcloud images? | 00:48 |
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| lifeless | Lotus907efi: nope, but once you've done a deploy you'd never run devtest in toto again, you don't want to undeploy your cloud :) | 00:52 |
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| Lotus907efi | hmmm so no way to run devtest and do something different like that for overcloud verses undercloud? | 00:53 |
| Lotus907efi | or to specify different DIB_COMMON_ELEMENTS for overcloud that are different than undercloud? | 00:55 |
| Lotus907efi | prior to devtest run | 00:55 |
| lifeless | you can specific different dib arguments | 00:55 |
| lifeless | there are separate _EXTRA_ARGS parameters for dib | 00:55 |
| Lotus907efi | ah | 00:55 |
| Lotus907efi | ok | 00:55 |
| lifeless | but - point is | 00:56 |
| lifeless | devtest.sh is purely a developer tool | 00:56 |
| Lotus907efi | yeah, I get that | 00:56 |
| lifeless | devtest_$foo is somewhat between developer and ops | 00:56 |
| lifeless | and the underlying scripts are what we're producting into ops tools | 00:56 |
| Lotus907efi | is there a plan to come up with something more "production like" that is not a pure development tool at some point? | 00:56 |
| Lotus907efi | or does something like that already exist? | 00:57 |
| Lotus907efi | ah, ok | 00:57 |
| lifeless | so e.g. os-apply-config - production tool | 00:59 |
| lifeless | setup-baremetal - intended to be production tool | 01:00 |
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| Lotus907efi | ok | 01:03 |
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| lifeless | gmm | 01:42 |
| lifeless | Updating cache of https://github.com/kanaka/noVNC.git in /home/robertc/.cache/image-create/source-repositories/novnc_eac807d7dcef19baf4dd80e1f38fc67a7720c193 with ref master | 01:42 |
| lifeless | fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/kanaka/noVNC.git/': Failed connect to github.com:443; Connection timed out | 01:42 |
| lifeless | we need to fix that | 01:42 |
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| SpamapS | http://paste.openstack.org/show/74058/ | 04:14 |
| SpamapS | Stderr: '2014-03-22T02:38:53Z|00001|reconnect|WARN|unix:/var/run/openvswitch/db.sock: connection attempt failed (No such file or directory)\novs-vsctl: unix:/var/run/openvswitch/db.sock: database connection failed (No such file or directory)\n' | 04:14 |
| SpamapS | I think we might be racing with openvswitch services at start-up | 04:14 |
| SpamapS | gah | 04:15 |
| SpamapS | same horrible mistake repeated a thousand times | 04:15 |
| SpamapS | start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE=lo) | 04:15 |
| SpamapS | stop on runlevel [!2345] | 04:15 |
| SpamapS | Probably are going to have to do a wait-for-state job to deal with taht. Ugh. | 04:21 |
| lifeless | upstream packaging bug right ? | 04:23 |
| SpamapS | sort of | 04:23 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: that is the wrong start on, but I don't think that is the cause of the problem | 04:23 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: We probably need to have neutron-openvswitch-agent issue this in its' pre-start: | 04:23 |
| SpamapS | start wait-for-state WAIT_FOR=openvswitch-switch WAITER=neutron-openvswitch-agent WAIT_STATE=started TARGET_GOAL=start | 04:24 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: ah, this is the 'why did you you need to restart n-o-a' ? | 04:24 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: Otherwise we have to put a retry loop on all of the ovs-vsctl commands | 04:25 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: most likely yes | 04:25 |
| SpamapS | http://logs.openstack.org/44/82244/1/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-ironic-undercloud-precise/471be67/ | 04:25 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: couple of thoughts | 04:25 |
| SpamapS | specifically seen in 192.0.2.3_logs.tgz | 04:25 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: a) its not the switch we need, its the DB | 04:25 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: b) because the db may be restarted from time to time, neutron needs to be resilient and wait/resync/something in this situation | 04:26 |
| SpamapS | the socket is created by -switch, or by -control ? | 04:26 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: control | 04:26 |
| SpamapS | Ok yeah that's a sysvinit | 04:26 |
| lifeless | the switch is dataplane, db is control plane | 04:26 |
| SpamapS | so an even harder race to solve | 04:26 |
| lifeless | at least, thats my understandin | 04:26 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I dunno. I'm o-k with local sockets being expected to exist. Not necessarily to respond, but just to exist. | 04:26 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: the command will error if the db doesn't respond | 04:27 |
| SpamapS | retry everything forever all the time. :) | 04:27 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: right | 04:27 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: so I'm not against us working around it | 04:27 |
| SpamapS | It's the Cloud Way | 04:27 |
| lifeless | but we need to have neutron deal | 04:27 |
| SpamapS | Yeah.. I have made this argument to people about things like mysql and rabbitmq as well.. so it makes sense even thought his particular case only includes a local socket.. processes go away too. | 04:28 |
| SpamapS | Ok back to Friday and my now-half-empty box of wine. :) | 04:29 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: btw, this was the only fail in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82244/'s CI check | 04:29 |
| lifeless | cool | 04:30 |
| lifeless | does 82244 give use graceful ? | 04:30 |
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| tchaypo | great. so first install-dependencies.sh starts barfing on my with "sudo: no tty present and no askpass specified" | 06:20 |
| tchaypo | then I try to ask google why, and the snippet it gives me is | 06:20 |
| tchaypo | 2014-03-10T00:00:09 <tchaypo> my laundry was untouched 2014 ... | 06:20 |
| tchaypo | eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23tripleo/%23tripleo.2014-03-10.log | 06:20 |
| lifeless | fedora? | 06:22 |
| tchaypo | ubuntu | 06:29 |
| tchaypo | I've updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1285285 with some output | 06:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1285285 in tripleo "libvirtd group addition doesn't stick" [Medium,Triaged] | 06:30 |
| tchaypo | hello uvirtbot | 06:30 |
| tchaypo | uvirtbot: hello there | 06:30 |
| uvirtbot | tchaypo: Error: "hello" is not a valid command. | 06:30 |
| tchaypo | lawl | 06:30 |
| tchaypo | okay. So I detach tmux and run it from a bare shell... and it works more better | 06:36 |
| tchaypo | no wait, it hasn't done the exec. it's asking for my sudo password, but this is the outer run of install-dependencies.sh | 06:37 |
| tchaypo | nope, it sill barfs at the same point. | 06:39 |
| lifeless | huh | 06:45 |
| lifeless | what version of ubuntu? | 06:45 |
| tchaypo | trusty | 06:53 |
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| tchaypo | well that's better | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | if I change the "sudo apt-get update" line to "sudo -S apt-get update", it talks on stderr and reads on stdin, instead of looking for a tty | 07:01 |
| tchaypo | so it no longer barfs, it asks for my password | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | but that just means it | 07:02 |
| tchaypo | s going tobar later on at the next sudo call that doesn't use -S | 07:02 |
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| tchaypo | Nope - any later calls to sudo work just fine because I've already authed | 07:07 |
| tchaypo | but eventually install-dependencies exits from the inner execution, then from the outher execution, and then we return to devtest.sh, and in my current environment I'm still not in the libvirt group | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | error: failed to connect to the hypervisor | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | error: no valid connection | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | error: Failed to connect socket to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock': Permission denied | 07:08 |
| tchaypo | lifeless: could you add some details to the bug to explain how the former change broke ci? | 07:15 |
| tchaypo | It looks to me as though the code that changed is inside | 07:16 |
| tchaypo | "if ! id | grep -qw $LIBVIRTD_GROUP; then", so if the CI machines already have the user in the libvirt group it should never be triggered... and if the ci machines don't already have the user in that group they should fail as soon as they get to that point | 07:19 |
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| lifeless | tchaypo: let me see | 07:24 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: our user in CI isn't in libvirt. so the patch that 'fixed it' caused it to stop, hard. | 07:26 |
| tchaypo | ah. | 07:26 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: the exec sudo should make a new user instance with the new groups applied. | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | yes, but it only runs install-dependencies inside that new instance | 07:27 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: the sudo failures subsequent to that are a sudo configuration. | 07:27 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: ah yes, I can see that | 07:27 |
| tchaypo | then the inner install-dependencies ends, the outer one resumes and ends, devtest.sh moves on, and we eventually try to talk to libvirt and fail | 07:28 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: so the reason CI *works* is that we don't need to be in libvirt for CI | 07:28 |
| tchaypo | ah. | 07:28 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: because we don't do local virsh operations | 07:28 |
| tchaypo | wheee. | 07:28 |
| tchaypo | so what we really want is a way to avoid the libvirt group stuff if it's not needed. | 07:29 |
| lifeless | we already have that, but its not applied in thi splace | 07:30 |
| tchaypo | if I was trolling I'd suggest a new environment variable called USE_LIBVIRT | 07:30 |
| tchaypo | oh, excellent. where can i find the existing thing so we can apply it here? | 07:30 |
| lifeless | its in testenv | 07:32 |
| lifeless | so I think 'if existing env is specified and its set for remote ops skip this' | 07:32 |
| tchaypo | ah. ci doesn't run devtest.sh, does it? | 07:33 |
| tchaypo | a i'm guessing it never runs devtest_setup.sh, it must run install-dependencies somewhere else? | 07:34 |
| lifeless | you can check and not guess :) | 07:35 |
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| lifeless | openstack-infra/tripleo-ci | 07:35 |
| tchaypo | looking at _testenv.sh, it looks like it just looks at $HOSTIP | 07:36 |
| tchaypo | so if I were to do the same check in install-dependencies, it would be something like "if [ ! "$HOSTIP" = 192.168.122.1 ]" | 07:37 |
| tchaypo | nope. toci runs devtest_setup.sh | 07:40 |
| tchaypo | ... why did I think it wouldn't? | 07:40 |
| tchaypo | oh, because i saw that the libvirt comes right after the pull-tools, and pull-tools happens in devtest_setup.sh. | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | but actually devtest_setup.sh ends with pull-tools, then devtest.sh calls _testenv | 07:42 |
| tchaypo | but toci moves on to _ramdisk instead | 07:42 |
| lifeless | right because toci has a pre-existing testenv | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | so | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | we could split install-dependencies into two parts | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | one part that actually installs dependencies | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | and another part called something like prepare-libvirt-access which sets up the libvirt access | 07:44 |
| tchaypo | all wrappped inside a if ! id | grep -qw $LIBVIRTD_GROUP; then", so if the CI machines already have the user in the libvirt group it should never be triggered... and if the ci machines don't │············································································································ │ already have the user in t | 07:45 |
| tchaypo | bah, paste fail | 07:45 |
| lifeless | well | 07:45 |
| lifeless | you could | 07:45 |
| lifeless | but my simple suggestion should work | 07:45 |
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| lifeless | if [ -n "$TE_DATAFILE" -a -e "$TE_DATAFILE" ]; then | 07:46 |
| lifeless | check for remote access being configured | 07:46 |
| lifeless | set a flag | 07:46 |
| lifeless | fi | 07:46 |
| lifeless | if flag empty then do the libvirt stuff | 07:46 |
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| tchaypo | and to be clear, if we did that it would then be fine to reinstate the patch that explicitly exits and tells the user to fix the environment | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | because that bit of code would never be run in CI | 07:50 |
| tchaypo | because we'd detect taht $TE_DATAFILE sets us up for remote access and we'd skip the whole libvirt-group stuff | 07:51 |
| tchaypo | is that right? | 07:51 |
| lifeless | I believe so | 07:53 |
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| lifeless | tchaypo: you could in fact just drop the sudo -l stuff but not introduce an exit | 08:03 |
| lifeless | tchaypo: it would work no less well for the local case | 08:04 |
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| SpamapS_ | lifeless: 82244 gives us software config support. 81666 will move us to using software config in the overcloud. | 14:59 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: now that those are in the right state, I can move to making an OS::Nova::Server sub-class resource plugin that uses a softwareconfig object to do graceful. | 15:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint "SpamapS" Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: WIP: Switch overcloud to software-config https://review.openstack.org/81666 | 15:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gonéri Le Bouder proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: doc: ReST syntax changes to improve readability https://review.openstack.org/82315 | 19:28 |
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| SpamapS | hrm, we are awful on reviews lately | 20:55 |
| Ng | I have been terrible, I was thinking I'd spend all of monday doing nothing but reviews, possibly tuesday too if that's what it takes to get an opinion in on everything | 20:57 |
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| SpamapS | Ng: I've been making it a point to get at least 4 in every day.. we've been stuck around 80 waiting on reviewers for 2 weeks | 20:59 |
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| SpamapS | all: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/82244/ needs to land before https://review.openstack.org/#/c/81666/ can even have a chance at working.. please review ASAP | 21:51 |
| SpamapS | lifeless , slagle , GheRivero , Ng , derekh , devananda ^^ | 21:52 |
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| Ng | SpamapS: are we worried about it failing the ironic undercloud CI job? | 22:16 |
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| lifeless | Ng: I rather think we should be, yes | 23:45 |
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