Monday, 2014-05-05

tchaypoGoodness that was a quiet weekend00:03
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greghayneswell, next weekend were all flying to atlanta00:06
greghaynesso weekend while you can :)00:06
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tchaypoYes, next weekend. Eurovision final weekend, but my flight starts 6 hours before the final airs here and ends 4 hours after it finishes.00:13
tchaypoin happier news, my pull request for pip was accepted, so the next release should have more better case insensitivity00:14
* greghaynes had to google eurovision00:14
tchaypoat least i have all the finalists on spotify, so I can listen in the plan00:17
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tchaypoThat awkward moment when you're trying to add the "Why" to a commit message and can't remember what you were thinking last week00:24
StevenKtchaypo: You don't have anyone with a PVR to watch Eurovision when you're in Atlanta?00:30
tchaypoStevenK: Watching eurovision, alone, in a hotel room... the only thing that would make this have any point is if I was drinking, but then I'm just drinking alone00:30
tchaypoEurovision is about the party, not about the show00:31
* StevenK looks forward to tchaypo's session at the summit about making certain that summit dates do not conflict with Eurovision airing times.00:31
tchaypoIt's not just eurovision00:32
tchaypoor summit00:32
tchaypoI flew out for the mid-cycle on the afternoon of Mardi Gras00:32
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tchaypoStevenK: do you remember why I was working on cleanup-env instead of making create-nodes be cleverer?01:08
StevenKtchaypo: So that cleanup-env will deal with seed_N and baremetal_brbm only01:09
StevenKSo that we can call cleanup-env in -testenv01:09
tchaypoyes, that's what I'm doing; but why did that seem like a better option than making create-nodes not trample on $TE_DATAFILE01:10
tchaypoHang on, I wrote notes about this01:10
StevenKtchaypo: What did you do on the weekend that made you forget everything? :-P01:12
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tchaypowent for a jog past maitland gaol in plain blue overalls01:15
tchaypoin the middle of the night01:15
tchaypomeh. my notes are all about how to improve cleanup-env.01:17
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tchaypoStevenK: Could you take a look at line 57 of and make me feel silly by telling me a better way to do the check that doesn't require me to do a noop on line 58?01:27
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tchaypoAlso, your input on line 60 would be greatly received01:29
StevenKYou don't need the else01:30
StevenKIt's already set to 'seed' if the if doesn't fire01:30
tchaypomrmm. You've answered both questions at once, I think01:31
tchaypoThat would mean that if -n is provided but seed_$NUM doesn't existing we only clean up the baremetal nodes and ignore the seed01:32
tchaypoMrm. I was thinking that it might be better to just have pass in the appropriate name for the seed vm01:35
tchaypobut then I checked and realised that it never knows the name of the seed - that calculation happens in setup-seed-vm01:35
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tchaypoOkay, I think I'm going to have to have _testenv pass $OVSBRIDGE into cleanup-env just so that cleanup-env can know for certain whether the name is seed or seed_n01:49
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StevenKtchaypo: You probably want to pass both. But $OVSBRIDGE isn't used for the seed name.01:53
tchaypoCorrect - it's only whether or not it's set01:53
tchaypoif set, we append the number of the environment; if unset we don't.01:53
StevenKtchaypo: So then why are you grep'ing for seed_n ?01:54
StevenKIf NUM is set, just set SEED_NAME to seed_$NUM and then try and delete it01:55
lifelessplane was delayed... got home at 2am01:59
StevenKlifeless: Eeek :-(01:59
lifelessnew firefox is uhm, fugly01:59
StevenKlifeless: C dealt?01:59
tchaypothat means that someone calling devtest_testenv and passing -n will have it succeed the first time, but fail the second time, because cleanup-env doesn't clean up the seed vm02:00
lifelessStevenK: she tapped out and slept about half way through the flight02:00
tchaypoit's progress, but it's an odd corner case02:00
tchaypolifeless: ouch02:00
lifelessshe slept to 1130 local time, 0930 sydney time02:00
lifelesswhich is good02:01
tchaypobtw, I checked again, and the velocity lounge program has been updated and does now give you lounge access on international flights02:01
tchaypobut only for flights between Aus and NZ.02:01
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Allow os-*-config to be installed from git repo
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Refresh heat-cfntools element
tchaypooh, joyous. I'm wrong - the calculation of the name does actually happen in testenv.sh02:04
tchaypoI love being wrong02:04
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Let cleanup-env only clean a specified environment
lifelessah ah ah
StevenKlifeless: Wrong.02:18
StevenKSo very wrong.02:18
lifelessToyota: Toyota is the worlds leading manufacturer of automobile recalls.02:19
* tchaypo crosses fingers02:22
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Clean up the any existing environment first
tchaypoah good, that seems to have worked.02:23
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lifelesscody-somerville: I can't figure out how to contact HP via the ww contact centre02:48
lifelesscody-somerville: every path I've tried takes me to 'x needs a s/n or warranty contact' and my s/n isn't valid there, apparently02:49
tchaypolifeless: Mayhap you're ending up on a .au site but the number is valid for support in the US?02:51
tchaypoI don't have experience with HP, but I've had experiences with Dell where the AU service people refuse to talk about machines that were purchased in the US02:52
tchaypo(doubly fun when the US service people refuse to talk to us because we're not located in the US)02:52
lifeless    The serial number/Service Agreement [SAID]/HP Care Pack ID you entered is not valid. Please check the number and try again.02:56
lifelesscody-somerville: so, I'm going to put the zbook on the shelf, I've moved the drive to the 9470m, and await further instructions - life is too short.02:57
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StevenKlifeless: I filed out a service request for whyfor was my expense rejected03:00
* lifeless goes into the pit of expesnses doom again03:01
StevenKlifeless: Heh heh.03:04
StevenKlifeless: Just in time to do it all again in another week03:04
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tchaypoAnd that reminds me to check on the delivery status of my SSD03:12
tchaypoApparently it has an estimated ship date of 01 Apr, but the status is still "production"03:12
lifelessStevenK's attery was still in production months after delivery03:13
lifelesstchaypo: you should have asked in the mail room03:13
tchaypoIt hasn't been shipped, there's no shipment number03:14
StevenKlifeless: I think I need more prose, could you suggest a starting point --
lifelessStevenK: what happens if the node is already registered?03:25
lifelessStevenK: what happens if nova-api/ironic-api return errors?03:25
lifelessStevenK: does anything happen to the nodes?03:26
lifelessStevenK: what is the schema of the nodes files?03:26
StevenKlifeless: Those questions don't sound suitable for usage?03:26
lifelessStevenK: why not?03:26
lifelessStevenK: we don't have a man page AIUI; either answering them or pointing at the docs that do answer them seems important03:27
StevenKlifeless: I still vaguely know *roff, I could fix that ...03:28
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lifelessStevenK: even then we'd want a nod to the docs, right ?03:37
lifelessStevenK: think discoverability for users here.03:37
lifelessStevenK: and for example, see 'git commit -h'03:37
lifeless(or bzr commit -h, for that matter)03:37
StevenKlifeless: Right, but TBH, I don't like help messages that do that because then you have 2-4 terminals worth of stuff to read, and scrolling and bleh03:40
lifelesswe don't have a standard on that, so I can't appeal to a higher authority03:45
lifelessYou asked for feedback:)03:45
StevenKlifeless: I was hoping to steal from what register-nodes in incubator has -- but it has nothing03:45
lifelessyeah, its docs are effectively in devtest_setup03:46
lifelessin the json schema03:46
lifelesswhich we can turn into a pointer once we have it in cloud-oncif03:46
tchaypoPfft. who needs to  know *roff, when we have
lifeless500 errors attaching receipts03:54
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Add a register-nodes command and associated API
StevenKHm. git review, are you going to make me strace you? :-(05:13
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Perform PKI initialization for a Keystone host
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Add a init-keystone CLI
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Create Keystone v2 endpoint in initialize()
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Link register-nodes in setup-clienttools
tchaypoI'm guessing that 10:29pm Sunday in PA means no mordred around to talk to05:31
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lifelessoh great, the EEM issue is a server side fail with current firefox.06:12
tchaypobecause the cert expired yesterday?06:12
tchaypoor is this a different server-side fail?06:13
lifeless500 errors06:13
lifelessdid the cert expire?06:13
StevenKtchaypo: The cert expired for the service site, not EEM06:18
tchaypoah. Now I'm confused again. I interpreted what you said earlier to mean that they were the same thing06:20
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Slight increase in testenv disk space
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rameshg87hello lifeless:06:33
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tchaypochuckC: I totally forgot, but a few of us have put some notes about being a new dev into
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tchaypochuckC: If you run across anything else and think it would save time for future new starters to find out the easy way, please feel free to update :)07:03
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GheRiveromorning all!07:18
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rcarrillocruzwasn't aware of that doc tchaypo07:25
* rcarrillocruz adding to bookmarks07:25
rcarrillocruzmorning btw07:25
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tchaypomorning :)07:42
tchaypoI guess the first thing to add to the etherpad is "You need to find out about this etherpad"07:43
GheRiveroA metaetherpad could be also helpful07:43
StevenKGheRivero: And then a metametaetherpad to find the metaetherpad? :-P07:46
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GheRiveroPointing it in the tripleo wiki is enough :)07:48
StevenKGheRivero: Spoil all my fun with facts :-P07:50
GheRiveroWe can also create an etherpad element pointing to the wiki07:52
GheRiveroand, of course, needs to be tested in CI/CD07:53
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tchaypoStevenK: what do you define "regex" to mean?07:57
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StevenKtchaypo: A regular expression, like /\d\s$/07:57
StevenKbrbm4 is not a regex07:57
tchaypohow do you define "Regular expression"?07:58
StevenKtchaypo: It's a search pattern that contains well understood elements.07:59
tchaypoIn the example "/\d\s$/" I've always thought that the regex is "\d\s$" - the / characters are delimters that surround the regex to tell sed/awk/perl/whatever where the regex starts and ends07:59
tchaypobut I've had no formal instruction in this, I've just picked it up from context, so that might be just me08:00
StevenKtchaypo: s/\d\s$/foo/ is also a regex08:00
StevenKAnd y/\d/number/ is a PCRE08:01
tchaypoI thought "s/.../foo/" is a command to find strings matching the regex between the first and second / and replace it with the string between the second and third /08:01
tchaypoThe sed man page calls it "s/regexp/replacement" and says that it's a command to "Attempt to match regexp against the pattern space. IF successful, replace that portion matched with replacement"08:02
StevenKtchaypo: Yes, but the sed man page also doesn't mention back references, so ...08:03
tchaypoIf I was using "brbtm_.*" - would you accept that as a regex?08:04
lifelessStevenK: metametaetherpad is a metaetherpad08:04
StevenKtchaypo: That is a regex, but then you need -E for grep08:05
tchayponot on my system08:06
tchaypoBut in any case - if "brbtm_.*" is a regex, I don't see why "brbtm_" isn't a regex08:07
tchaypoit doesn't use any special characters or wildcards, but I haven't seen anything saying that a regex *must* use a wildcard or special character08:07
lifelessbrbtm_ is a regex08:09
lifelessbrbtm_.* is also a glob FWIW08:09
tchaypoI don't know if it's canonical, but says a RE can consist of a single simple-RE, which can consist of a single basic-RE, whcih can consist of a single elementary-RE, which can consist of a single char (if I've remembered how to read BNF)08:10
tchaypolifeless: yeah, but they match different things - as a glob, the . is a literal .08:10
lifelessbut I can't be arsed finding the beginning of this discussion08:10
lifelesswhats the actual thing @ question ?08:11
StevenKReview comment of mine asking tchaypo to rename BAREMETAL_REGEX to BAREMETAL_PATTERN because I didn't think 'brbm4' was a regex08:11
lifelessis it being matched via a regex engine?08:12
tchaypowithout -E08:12
tchaypobut according to the man page, without -E it uses the basic regex syntax, and "In GNU grep, there is no difference in available functionality between basic and extended syntax".08:13
StevenKtchaypo: grep -E is in my muscle memory thanks to Solaris/Tru6408:13
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StevenKDamnable things08:14
* tchaypo happily avoided non-gnu systems08:15
tchaypoexcept for the steve-blessed machines *sigh*08:16
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tchaypoI've responded to comments. I'd like to hear why we think it's safe to assume that only ever has -n used if accompanied by -b before we start making that assumption. Or, if you'd prefer, I could tweak to enforce that condition, and then rebase this change on top of that one08:19
* StevenK will let that percolate08:22
lifelessI wouldn't assume n+b or neither b nor n08:32
lifelessthey are orthogonal08:32
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StevenKlifeless: Did you want to +A the first branch for os-c-c and init-keystone?
lifelessStevenK: can you submit a config change to get os-cloud-config running seed/undercloud/overcloud jobs too please08:45
StevenKlifeless: Already happening, according to the YAML in config08:50
lifelessStevenK: I couldn't see any job feedback on your patch08:50
StevenK  - name: openstack/os-cloud-config08:50
StevenK    check-tripleo:08:50
StevenK      - check-tripleo-seed-precise08:50
lifelessStevenK: we'll have to have this to link the binary in08:50
lifelessI believe you :)08:50
lifelessjust saying, something funky08:51
StevenKHuh, yeah08:51
StevenKlifeless: I'll chase that up with the infra guys tomorrow morning08:52
dshulyakthere is bunch of patches with support for vip, starting with this one, i tested it on local setup08:56
dshulyak would be great if it can be merged sooner, so we can start work on haproxy configuration08:57
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dshulyaklifeless:, what do you think about this approach? is it ok to pass ctlplane id to templates?08:58
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lifelessdshulyak: I haven't thought deeply but yes that seems ok, though name would be a lot better.09:45
lifelessdshulyak: you say it doesn't work to use name?09:45
dshulyaklifeless: yep, converting name to id is done directly in neutron cli
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lifelessdshulyak: ugh; we can't express a similar map in Heat? Seems like there is a bug here somewhere ;)09:53
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lsmolais anybody able to deploy storage nodes?12:46
lsmolaI am getting ERROR: Property error : SwiftStorage0Deploy: input_values Items to join must be strings12:46
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victor_lowtherAnyone up for more reviews on and ?14:03
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jdobah cool, dib in docker14:32
jdobi'll take a look14:32
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove explicit dependency on amqplib
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fixing order of templates for mergepy
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fixing order of templates for mergepy
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Adding swift deploy template
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tspatzierHi all, I wanted to ask if anyone recently tried to use diskimage-builder to build a fedora-20 image? I am getting an error with 11-selinux-fixfiles today, but it worked last week.16:51
tspatzierSpamapS indicated on #heat that somebody here might be able to help. I have pasted the last few lines of my create-image run here
SpamapStspatzier: Unfortunately I don't see any of the usual selinux capable people around.16:52
SpamapSshadower: ^^ maybe?16:52
SpamapSI think it's a bit late in the work day for shadower though.16:53
tspatzierWhere is he from?16:53
beekneemechtspatzier: The paste is erroring for me, but you might check with rwsu for selinux issues too.16:55
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SpamapSrwsu: right you've done some selinux stuff with dib.16:55
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shadowertspatzier: haven't built f20 recently, sorry17:03
* shadower looks at the log17:03
tspatziershadower: thanks. I guess I will just open a bug and copy the console output. Maybe stevebaker has used it recently, since he is doing a lot with heat software config.17:04
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shadowertspatzier: yeah, that'd be the best thing to do I reckon17:06
shadowerI'll drop off in a few moments17:07
tspatziershadower: no problem. Thanks.17:09
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greghayneshrm, whats up with reviews like which never got commented on for the tripleo jenkins tests17:51
dprincegreghaynes: recheck it again, looks like it fell through the cracks.17:53
* greghaynes swings recheck no bug hammer17:53
greghaynesdprince: What do you think about ML thread for pkg-map patch once it lands? Im thinking we should probably let reviewers know to switch to new style of pkg-maps for reviews that are up17:56
SpamapSI think the whole queue got lost on Friday17:56
SpamapSso yeah, no comment, and not in, recheck away17:56
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dprincegreghaynes: I'm fine w/ that. I wanted to get feedback on the review first... but if we need a thread I'm all for it18:10
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SpamapSlifeless: home?18:32
lifelessSpamapS: yeah18:33
lifelesscody-somerville: btw - I pinged you yesterday, you may not have seen. (Here).18:34
* cody-somerville scrolls.18:34
cody-somervillelifeless: Ok. ack. Will look into this further for you.18:35
SpamapSlifeless: Ok. I'm getting through the backlog, and then I'm going to attack the Heat metadata access problem again.18:35
SpamapSlifeless: stevebaker has got some patches worked up to make sure deployments do not add queries.. but the big task is pre-calculating the keys that are allowed to access instead of registering callbacks which require the whole stack to be parsed.18:36
lifelessSpamapS: ok; I understood performance to be tolerable now18:40
lifelessSpamapS: I've not managed to reproduce a working setup with Nova-BM, but Ironic was quite happy18:40
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SpamapSlifeless: with latest Heat?18:47
SpamapSlifeless: you were able to go beyond 30 threads polling for metadata?18:47
lifelessSpamapS: only have 31 working machines. It was falling over at 5 with the bad code :)18:50
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lifelessSpamapS: thats with stevebaker's patchset18:50
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SpamapSlifeless: Steve's code is all landed now.18:51
SpamapSlifeless: I did a simulation where I fired up 30 os-collect-config's and just used the nova fake driver so heat would think everything was up and running. That worked well and exposed the problem (though because it was 30 all at once, I never measured between 5 and 30).18:52
SpamapSI'll recreate that and see where we're at now.18:52
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openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Explicitly set Ironic's enabled drivers list
openstackgerritDevananda van der Veen proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Explicitly set Ironic's enabled drivers list
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stevebakerlifeless: so you're still hitting the issue with my query optimise series?19:08
stevebakerSpamapS: this change should finish the job
SpamapSstevebaker: lovely19:11
SpamapSGoing to get some lunch and then see how many os-collect-config's we can handle. :)19:11
stevebakerSpamapS: you should review that whole series if you haven't already19:14
saurabhslifeless spamaps: with tripleo for configuring ssl certificates on the API (may be in nova) what is the suggested approach. we pass the content of whole cert/key as text a parameters to heat template or should we use cloudinit to copy the files on the instance during nova boot (i think heat support that).19:18
lifelessstevebaker: unknown19:18
lifelessstevebaker: the error about saving stuff - too long column - is the last heat specific issue I've seen19:18
lifelesssaurabhs: we already pass the key and cert in19:19
lifelesssaurabhs: so I'd say we stay with that; as any new nodes will need the cert, there's no single point to store it (until barbican)19:19
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saurabhslifeless: ok i see the point19:23
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openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fedora: Add support for configuring Yum mirrors
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: MySQL: Support Debian in libssl-symlink
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add notty file for Ironic
openstackgerritPhil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add Ceilometer to control node by default
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add map-services for debian distros.
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openstackgerritHaneef Ali proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: configure keystone with apache
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Create RabbitMQ users on controller
openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Ensure password is set correctly on existing users
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tchaypoI just had another look at stackoverflow, and found that my meager rep puts me in the top 9%21:07
tchaypoThat's different from my expectation21:08
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SpamapStchaypo: I have 56621:09
SpamapSso only top 47% ;)21:09
SpamapSbut I haven't participated in quite some time21:09
tchaypoMaybe I've spent more time on there than I thought I had21:09
tchaypothen again, one of my highest-scoring answers is a question about vim21:10
tchaypo is possibly my favorite answer though21:12
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add OVERCLOUD_CONTROLSCALE support
tchaypofinally in the call. Only 22 minutes late.21:23
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Document config properties in haproxy element
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Migration to oslo.db
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openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Migration to oslo.db
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Allow multiple binds per service in haproxy
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Document config properties in haproxy element
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Increase PXE deployment timeout for overcloud
openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Allow multiple binds per service in haproxy
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Install requirements from tarballs, not from git
openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove requirements_style_check
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add OVERCLOUD_CONTROLSCALE support
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tchaypogreghaynes: could you spam me again?23:59

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