Tuesday, 2014-06-03

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lifelessdevananda: did anyone else eat with us in Stts00:02
lifelesss/Stts/Stats/00:02
lifelessStevenK: same diff00:03
devanandalifeless: the dinner after the pizza place?00:03
devanandalifeless: no - just the three of us00:03
lifelessdevananda: yeah, who were the three :)00:03
lifelessdevananda: you, me, and ??? (tentatively think its clint, not sure :))00:03
lifelessStevenK: ok, so I'm going to deploy an undercloud with a class B or something to ensure we have space00:04
lifelessStevenK: how do you change the hypervisor etc ?00:05
devanandayes, clint00:05
StevenKlifeless: The hypervisor only needs changing if it's fake. If you're doing it on a CI machine, then you don't have to.00:05
lifelessSpamapS: ^00:05
lifelessStevenK: uhm00:05
devanandaalso - ugh, expense reports :(00:06
lifelessStevenK: so the idea is to test with 2000 processes polling00:06
lifelessStevenK: I rather suspect I don't have resources for 2000 emulated VMs today.00:06
StevenKAh ha00:06
SpamapSMust always remember to take pictures of people when you pay00:06
SpamapSWorks every time.00:06
greghaynesthey want photos now?00:06
SpamapShah yeah00:06
SpamapSand stool samples00:06
StevenKI scribble names on the back of receipts00:06
greghaynesstill probably less pain than doing EEM00:07
StevenKIt tends to work00:07
lifelessright, now its time to book travel for my next trip. sheese.00:07
SpamapSI'm calling a moritorium until the mid-cycle00:08
SpamapSand even that.. I intend to cut short00:08
lifeless2.75 hours00:10
lifelessugh00:10
lifelessI want my life back00:10
SpamapSlifeless: I believe the concur people have some mobile apps for doing expense reporting in real-time00:10
SpamapSlifeless: the drudgery is in sitting down documenting everything days after it mattered. ;)00:11
lifelessthey do if you let the HP sysadmins have remote wipe on your device.00:11
lifelessSpamapS: which I will not.00:11
lifelesssince the same acls to do that give you unlimited access...00:11
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StevenKlifeless: For that case, you need to connect to the seed after it's been built and change nova.conf like http://paste.openstack.org/show/82502/ and then restart nova-* on the seed00:14
SpamapSlifeless: hah, if only your phone could run a VM. :)00:14
StevenKMy main problem with expenses is waiting the n days for EEM to load in transactions from the corp amex00:15
StevenKI think it was just over an hour to deal with expenses from the summit00:16
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lifelessright, lunch, then this heat scaling test, then networking for CI00:18
lifelessSpamapS: you're doing a powerpoint on mitigation, per earlier ?00:18
SpamapSlifeless: In principle I have agreed to this. In practice, I have spent half the day asleep or running errands to make up for lost travel time.00:21
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lifelessSpamapS: sure, I guess I mean, can I trust that something will appear in my inbox tomorrow, wednesday @ latest?00:25
SpamapSlifeless: lets recap. We need to see answers on how to mitigate ERRORs, or scale problems, or both, in Heat?00:29
SpamapSlifeless: the ML thread has not really produced anything helpful.00:30
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lifelessSpamapS: we need one-or-more approaches to mitigate the STACK_FAIL on (common) errors.00:33
lifelessSpamapS: what was the ML thread subject?00:34
lifelessSpamapS: short term approaches - things we can help folk deliver in the next 4-5 weeks.00:34
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SpamapSlifeless: "Short term scaling strategies for large Heat stacks"00:35
lifelessah I see it00:36
SpamapSlifeless: responses are a) wait for update-failure-recovery (Juno-2 expectation) and some stuff about handling transient client errors better.00:36
SpamapSerr there's a b) there but I forgot to type it00:36
lifeless:)00:37
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SpamapSlifeless: I'm a bit worried about abandon/adopt given that it breaks metadata updates00:38
lifelessyeah00:38
lifelessso chunking seems to have agreedment00:39
SpamapSyeah chunking may even make sense long term.00:39
lifeless+ help test zanes retry patches00:39
lifelessI'm not sure it does, it seems like chunking is a way of manually distributing work, but thats a different discussion00:39
lifelessas a mitigation strategy, no debate00:39
SpamapSlifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:typeless-function-plugins,n,z <-- the prelude to the retry patches (doesn't actually implement the retry, but sets the table for it) ....00:39
lifelessso I think what we need to communicate is00:40
lifeless - for a given mitigation00:40
lifeless   - what needs to be done in broad terms00:41
lifeless   - who is / will do / can do it00:41
SpamapSooo the whole stream is +A'd now.. nice00:41
lifeless   - what are we doing w.r.t. it00:41
lifelessand then capture the space00:42
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lifelessstevebaker: IIUC your metadata memoisation stuff hasn't landed yet, right ?00:58
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SpamapSlifeless: see inbox01:24
SpamapSlifeless: mitigations in presentation form01:24
lifeless\o/01:24
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lifelessok, barring any ZOMGs, I'm locked in for june 22nd through 27th in SFO01:47
lifeless / sunnyvale01:47
lifelessright, next thing on the todo list01:47
greghayneswow, so this tcpdump for tftp is interesting01:52
greghayneswe get packet A, ack A, get packet B, keep acking A... eventually we get B again and ack B01:53
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greghaynesand both sides see this happen01:54
StevenKSounds like ACKs are geting swallowed01:54
StevenKlifeless: Wild Palms again?01:55
lifelessStevenK: DIAF01:58
StevenKHaha01:59
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SpamapSslagle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94523/ <-- I responded there asking for mercy. ;)02:21
greghaynesoh, "that reviewer"02:21
SpamapShaha02:21
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132576203:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132009003:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1325762 in tripleo "intermittent tftp issues using physical hardware" [Undecided,New]03:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1320090 in tripleo "pxe_ephemeral_format': u'ext4 left on nodes after deploys deleted" [Undecided,New]03:00
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lifelessStevenK: SpamapS: ok, so once I have this cloud, how do I get all the polling processes up03:12
lifeless?03:12
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elynnHi all, Could you please to review this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90887/04:03
StevenKlifeless: Sorry, I was buying parts of lunch, assembling it and noming. After the cloud was built, I get a little fuzzy, since it turned into me running what SpamapS told me to against the stack. :-/04:11
StevenKelynn: Hasn't the kpartx call been pointed out as possibly unneeded for a few patchsets?04:12
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Ignore pm_password if it's >255 characters  https://review.openstack.org/9544104:19
lifelesssigh, lennart, sigh04:20
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StevenKRemove netlink from udev because it might be useful to people that don't use systemd? Yeah.04:20
lifelessthe bit I was sighing at was the *entirely* reasonable loose coupling / backwards compat aspect and then lennary going 'no, we expect lockstep upgrades'.04:21
StevenKYeah04:21
StevenKBecause piecemeal upgrades of kernel and then userspace aren't a thing at all04:22
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lifelessI am -so- looking forward to 10 years from now when folk have relearnt history.04:22
StevenKlifeless: Do you want https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95657/ to go through CI again? I was hoping for a +2/+A since the os-cloud-config-docs job branch has landed to see what happens when it runs.04:23
lifelessStevenK: do you think it should ?04:24
StevenKlifeless: I'm happy enough for it to go through check before gate, which will happen as soon as you comment/vote.04:25
jogolifeless: https://review.openstack.org/96308 appears to be working (at least partially)04:26
greghaynesCan I get some review love on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97294/ - theres a patch stack depending on it being merged04:27
greghayneslifeless: ^ also modifies a patch you landed04:28
StevenKlifeless: Re: Lennart, according to TrinaryLogic: what he's really saying is "I want systemd to be part of the kernel but linus won't let me."04:29
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Extract upstart logs so they can be loaded into logstash  https://review.openstack.org/9630804:30
lifelessStevenK: thats because Linus cares about users.04:30
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elynnStevenK, Hi, I haven't remove that part yet, could you tell me how does kpartx work?05:08
elynnStevenK, I don't really know if I remove kpartx will bring what problems.05:09
StevenKelynn: Then test it? Remove the kpartx call and see if anything breaks.05:10
lifelessjogo: cool05:10
elynnStevenK, so you mean that kpartx in ubuntu img is useless?05:11
lifelesshmm05:11
lifelessjogo:05:11
lifeless2014-06-03 04:57:52.649 | tar: /home/jenkins/workspace/check-tripleo-ironic-seed-precise/logs/seed_var_log: Cannot open: No such file or directory05:11
lifeless2014-06-03 04:57:52.649 | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now05:11
lifelessjogo: we might want to switch to simple rsync or something05:12
StevenKelynn: What I mean is that the Ubuntu images and Fedora images are constructed differently05:12
elynnStevenK, hmm, I will have a try!05:13
elynnthx StevenK05:13
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Clean up all outstanding ReST errors and warnings  https://review.openstack.org/9712905:18
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lifelessadam_g: I imagine you're about done for the day :)... where's it at?05:40
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greghayneslifeless: re the tftp?05:41
lifelessyes05:41
greghaynestried completely separate jump host + seed, still seeing issue05:41
lifelessok05:41
lifelessSlickNik: re https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/Replication-And-Clustering-With-Nodes-5#Example:_MySQL05:42
lifelessSlickNik: it seems unsuitable for galera05:42
lifelessSlickNik: but perhaps I'm missing something05:42
greghaynesalso left a little note on my trying to confirm its networkey here https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132576205:43
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1325762 in tripleo "intermittent tftp issues using physical hardware" [Undecided,New]05:43
lifelessgreghaynes: you say https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97294/ conflicts with a patch of mine ?05:43
greghaynesnot conflicts, it modifies what you did with bootstack05:44
greghaynesthat one already landed though :/05:44
lifelessok05:44
lifelessfine by nme05:44
lifelessneeds another core vote05:44
lifelessSpamapS: if you have jetlag... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97294/05:45
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StevenKOh blah05:45
StevenKI had the comment page for that review open, didn't hit submit05:45
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lifelessgreghaynes: so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86435/ still failed :(05:54
greghayneswith https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97294/ ?05:55
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lifelessgreghaynes: shouldn't matter05:56
lifelessgreghaynes: since two absent keys have the same value :)05:56
greghaynesthere is a check if they dont exist to not return you are master05:57
lifelessah05:57
greghaynesotherwise bad things happen (TM) when multiple people try to become master before metadata server is up05:57
lifelessbecause of os-collect-configs fail-open behaviour05:57
lifelesswe need to fix that05:57
lifeless2014-05-30 23:53:19.419 | tar: /var/log/journal/7245d72979598396f6413f4ac8029f7f/system.journal: file changed as we read it06:03
lifelessugh06:03
lifelesstar is just the wrong tool I think06:03
greghaynesyep06:03
clarkbuhm journalctl?06:04
clarkbpretty sure there are examples over in d-g for fedora06:04
lifelessclarkb: it affects ubuntu too06:04
clarkbubuntu is using systemd?06:05
lifelessclarkb: any system where logs are being written to and tar isn't fast enough to avoid the race06:05
greghayneswe just get other logs being written to06:05
clarkblifeless: oh sure06:05
clarkbd-g deals withthat too iirc06:05
clarkbit does a sleep, sync, then cp06:05
clarkbafter stopping services06:06
lifelessclarkb: thats one way of solving it06:06
lifelessclarkb: how do they avoid things writing to syslog ?06:06
lifelessclarkb: or does d-g not grab syslog ?06:06
clarkblifeless: it does grab it. iirc it does a dance before and after etsing where it stops syslog and moves things around06:07
lifelessclarkb: heh, so I think we can do better.06:07
clarkbsure06:07
clarkbbut this works fine06:07
lifelessclarkb: e.g. rsync. Then tar / compress.06:07
clarkbthere is no reason for that though06:07
clarkbyou don't gain anything06:07
lifelessclarkb: we're dealing with multiple nodes. SSH handshakes are slow. Resources are expensive.06:07
lifelessclarkb: doing a one-touch no-waiting approach has a lot of gain.06:08
lifelessclarkb: but you've clearly dealt with it before. Why do you say we won't gain anything ?06:08
clarkblifeless: because stopping rsyslog and doing a copy isn't expensive06:09
clarkband gets you the same result06:09
lifelessclarkb: we'd need to stop all the openstack services, on multiple machines06:10
lifelessclarkb: rabbit and mysql etc; and to do that without spurious errors we'd need to do it in toplogical service dependency order.06:10
clarkbyou need to regardless06:10
lifelessclarkb: we do? Why?06:10
clarkbbecause you are recycling test envs06:10
lifelessclarkb: we're deploying brand new machines every time06:11
lifelessclarkb: reusing the 'disk' sure06:11
clarkbright but killing those nodes is going to stop service gracefully06:11
clarkbits the same cpu time06:11
lifelessno its not06:11
SpamapSlifeless: what fail open?06:11
lifelessthere's some disconnect here.06:11
SpamapSlifeless: "os-collect-config's fail open behavior" ?06:12
SpamapSlifeless: https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config none of those seem like a fail-open. ?06:13
lifelessSpamapS: we run o-r-c when collectors have failed06:13
SpamapSlifeless: ah, yes, would you report that? Pretty easy to correct I think.06:13
lifelessSpamapS: we also, relatedly, run all of o-r-c when various deployments aren't present, but thats new feature work06:13
lifelessSpamapS: I'm armpit deep in context & baby time right now; could you capture it ?06:14
lifelessSpamapS: otherwise I'll get to it when I get a tuit06:14
SpamapSYeah I"ll report06:15
SpamapSlifeless: the running w/o deployments thing has troubled me as well06:15
SpamapSlifeless: it makes me wonder about using a dependency system instead of ordering06:15
lifelessSpamapS: a design doc for that would help06:15
SpamapSbecause really, what we're saying is, if there's no mysql configuration, there shouldn't be a mysql post-configuration or migration.06:16
SpamapSbut thats the easy case. The hard one is when there are o-r-c scripts that assume there is a working mysql database.06:17
SpamapSsince it might be local, or it might be remote06:17
greghaynesI would hope most things that depend on a working mysql database dont depend on a local mysql database?06:19
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SpamapShttps://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/+bug/132581806:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1325818 in os-collect-config "os-collect-config should fail when any collectors fail" [High,Triaged]06:21
SpamapSgreghaynes: hopefully, but as is often the case, things start local and move remote only when we need to scale out massively06:21
GheRiveromorning all06:21
lifelessclarkb: so at the moment we just STNITH all the nodes before the next test starts.06:22
clarkbyou essentially kill -9 it?06:25
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lifelesswe pull the power plug06:25
clarkbI guess if you are that mean then sure. I figured you would be using nova to do it for you though which is a bit more graful aiui06:26
lifelesswe can't06:26
lifelessmachines with no instance deployed to them are not power managed by nova-bm (and we still support nova-bm)06:26
lifelessIronic will power off (STNITH) machines which are powered on when they are registered with Ironic06:27
lifelessbut this happens in the *next test*06:27
lifelesswe don't shut anything down during the current test06:28
clarkbok thats different than how we do it06:28
clarkband I would expect that with multi node devstack we would continue to shut things down06:28
clarkbbut I will leave that to mattoliverau to sort out06:29
lifelesswe will be doing reboots and stuff as we get upgrade testing in place06:29
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lifelessclarkb: should we do it differently ?06:33
lifelessclarkb: what benefit (given we're testing that we deploy ;)) does shutting everything down have?06:33
clarkblifeless: its simple06:33
clarkbyou don't have to consider races at all06:34
lifelessclarkb: It doesn't seem simple to me06:34
lifelessclarkb: to shut down gracefully we have to hit all nodes in a repeating loop to take down services from the top to the bottom06:35
clarkblifeless: so that I don't understand06:35
clarkbwhy can't you just stop the services?06:35
lifelessclarkb: if we shut down galera, keystone etc will all start throwing errors.06:35
clarkbat the end of testing you don't care about the cloud running during shutdown06:35
lifelessclarkb: but if we don't shut down galera, we'll have the race condition with logs to deal with.06:36
lifelessclarkb: errors in logs are something that devstack tests for (and I think its a good initiative) so spurious errors are bad06:36
greghaynescan we pull the power plug, mount the fs, read the logs?06:37
SlickNiklifeless: The mysql example at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/Replication-And-Clustering-With-Nodes-5#Example:_MySQL specifically illustrates how mysql async replication will work with the proposed clustering design.06:37
lifelessclarkb: so we'd need to shutdown all high end services - nova-* except for conductor, neutron-agent etc etc06:37
lifelessclarkb: then do another pass for the next layer down - nova-conductor, neutron-server etc06:37
lifelessclarkb: then keystone06:37
lifelessclarkb: then galera and rabbit06:37
SlickNiklifeless: Provisioning a galera cluster would be more akin to the Cassandra example at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove/Replication-And-Clustering-With-Nodes-5#Example:_Cassandra06:37
lifelessSlickNik: it would be easier for a noob like me to approach if the example called out how its going to be used06:38
lifelessSlickNik: (and why- I mean, does anyone run non-galera clustered mysql these days?!)06:38
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SlickNiklifeless: Agreed, it seems worthwhile to call out provisioning galera as its own scenario. Will get that into the specs / docs.06:39
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SpamapSlifeless: sent you updated mitigation slides06:42
openstackgerritLin Tan proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Correct the wrong rename in rhel element  https://review.openstack.org/9611406:42
lifelessSpamapS: cool, looking06:42
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lifelessSpamapS: why won't "Will not work with future plans for online updates (Signalling, rolling updates, etc" ?06:44
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lifelessSpamapS: (its the only bit that I didn't understand)06:45
SpamapSlifeless: we'll have to orchestrate per-stack updates for computes in the chunking example I gave.06:47
SpamapSlifeless: as in, we have to update the compute stack 0, and then 1, and then 2 .. there's no cohesive policy.06:47
SpamapSlifeless: signalling is the quorum-stopping that we want to do.. we'll have to work really hard and do secondary updates to make that work right in separate stacks.06:48
lifelessSpamapS: it seems to me it will all work, as long as:06:48
SpamapSWork, yes. Reusable? No.06:48
lifeless - things we want to be global we export *and* import from each stack (e.g. hostname scatter-gather)06:48
SpamapSwe're effectively writing our own mini-convergence engine06:49
lifeless - our meta layer does updates in a well defined order (e.g. we have a DAG of stacks)06:49
lifelessyes06:49
lifelessit sucks06:49
lifelessbut I'm trying to understand why these features /won't work/06:49
SpamapSI support it btw. I just want to make sure it is clear that we are forking to get around upstream's complexity.06:49
lifelessIIUC its 'there is code needed to make them work'06:49
SpamapSI'm wary to get too far down the road...06:50
* SpamapS eyes merge.py while fondling the hilt of his broadsword06:50
lifelessI'm going to be presenting this 4? 5? layer of mgmt up06:50
lifelessif we say 'won't work'06:50
lifelesswhen its nuanced06:51
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lifelessI am worried that will lead to mitigate-by-using-chef or something06:51
SpamapS"Will be superseded by ..." may be o-k then.06:51
SpamapSchef wouldn't solve anything06:51
SpamapSansible would06:51
SpamapSor salt-cloud06:51
lifelesshow about 'rolling update and signalling will not natively cross stacks - development required to enable those features06:52
lifelessor something ?06:52
SpamapSYeah thats fine.06:52
openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Allow setup services endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/9238306:57
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: Promote HEAT_ENV  https://review.openstack.org/9491006:57
lxsliNot urgent, but input would be nice on: https://review.openstack.org/9642806:58
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StevenKlxsli: That's nice and impossible to review, since Gerrit shows the svg as XML06:59
StevenKWhich is ... handy of it06:59
SpamapSStevenK: git review -d06:59
StevenKs/review,/review using the web UI,/06:59
StevenKPedant. :-P06:59
lxsliStevenK: if you check my last comment, I give a handy link :)06:59
SpamapSeven if it showed it to you06:59
SpamapS:-P06:59
greghaynesor http://docs-draft.openstack.org/28/96428/2/check/gate-tripleo-incubator-docs/05d5a68/doc/build/html/userguide.html07:00
greghaynesah, looks like thats whats in the comments07:00
lifelesslxsli: nice stuff07:00
SpamapStotally07:00
SpamapSif I wasn't passing out I'd review immediately07:00
SpamapSbut will do it first thing tomorrow07:00
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lxsliThat'd be grand, cheers07:01
* SpamapS makes good on promise.. and passes out07:01
SpamapSimmediately07:01
lifelessadam_g: greghaynes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93844/07:02
elynnHi StevenK, are you there?07:03
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greghayneslifeless: I misunderstood about situation re tftp from before - adam_g says he was blocked on the setuptools issue so we havent actually tried with a new jumphost07:15
GheRiverogreghaynes: I'm testing n4307:16
adam_ghey.07:16
jprovaznwhere lives the code which tars logfiles into e.g. 192.0.2.3_logs.tar.xz when running gate tests? I'd like to include there /mnt/state/var/log/mysql path too07:16
GheRiveroow with the new seed07:16
greghaynesGheRivero: ooo07:16
adam_gso i brought up a second host to act as a new seed / jump host, but DIB was failing to build the seed blocked on the setuptools fix being synced to local pypi mirror07:16
jprovaznah07:17
GheRiverothe seed booted so I guess the setuptools issue is fixed now07:17
jprovazntoci_devtest.sh07:17
adam_gGheRivero, nice07:17
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openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add mysql logs  https://review.openstack.org/9742107:27
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lparthhello, any chance someone could please approve this patch? Thanks. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92400/08:17
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shadowerlparth: the check-tripleo-undercloud-precise test failed (so can't approve now), but it doesn't seem to be related to the patch08:22
shadowerlparth: try adding a comment that says "recheck no bug". That will re-run the tests08:22
jprovaznlparth: shadower: I reran tests on it already08:22
lparththanks shadower, jprovazn08:23
openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Fix long lines  https://review.openstack.org/9742908:24
shadowercool08:24
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jistrif some core can spare a while to do an easy review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96759/08:28
jistruntil we merge it, all other patches to Tuskar are blocked (CI is broken on Tuskar)08:29
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jprovaznjistr: sure08:32
jistrjprovazn: thanks!08:32
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:09:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132576209:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1325762 in tripleo "intermittent tftp issues using physical hardware" [Undecided,New]09:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132009009:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1320090 in tripleo "pxe_ephemeral_format': u'ext4 left on nodes after deploys deleted" [Undecided,New]09:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Move bootstrap-host out from bootstack  https://review.openstack.org/9729409:01
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lifelessderekh_: morning09:27
derekh_lifeless: good morning, hows things today09:27
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-cloud-config: Switch to ssh_key_contents for ironic  https://review.openstack.org/9565709:29
derekh_lifeless: am currently testing a CI simulation script on R2 , nothing very complicated, runs overcloud job on a cloud X number of times, Y jobs running simultaneously , so we can then take a look and see how many passed/failed09:31
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lifelessderekh_: current blocker for deploying a new undercloud is the vlan support09:36
lifelessderekh_: cool09:36
lifelessderekh_: I'm thinking perhaps I'll deploy the undercloud with no external endpoint initially; it would force jump host use to get at it, but get us online faster.09:37
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derekh_lifeless: sounds ok to me (I usually ssh to undercloud to use the endpoints anyways)09:38
lifelessok, I'll update the patches and stuff tomorrow09:38
lifelessderekh_: btw09:39
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lifelessderekh_: the tar log copier is about 5-10 failures a day09:39
lifelessderekh_: I filed a bug tagged ci for it, and submitted a recheck signature09:39
lifelessand with that, gnight09:39
derekh_lifeless: ok, found it https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1325815 , I have seen the warning about the file changing while it was being read but never had a problem opening the tarball09:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1325815 in tripleo "tar:... file changed as we read it" [High,Triaged]09:41
derekh_lifeless: will take a look09:41
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openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Wait for ssh demon to become active  https://review.openstack.org/9651509:45
openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Wait for ssh demon to become active  https://review.openstack.org/9651509:46
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openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Wait for ssh demon to become active  https://review.openstack.org/9651510:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: testenv-worker: use signals to enable/disable jobs  https://review.openstack.org/8797111:18
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add bin/testenv-ctl stop_jobs/start_jobs script  https://review.openstack.org/8797211:21
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix jshint warnings  https://review.openstack.org/9746711:21
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Sequence deploys - compute after control plane.  https://review.openstack.org/9380611:22
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Download the fedora base image from a good URL  https://review.openstack.org/9305811:25
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openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Allow install mariadb from RDO repository  https://review.openstack.org/8729511:37
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openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Move to software-config for the undercloud.  https://review.openstack.org/9331912:33
openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add passthrough configuration glue.  https://review.openstack.org/9181012:34
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix jshint warnings  https://review.openstack.org/9746712:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Make disk bus type configurable  https://review.openstack.org/9240012:43
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix jshint warnings  https://review.openstack.org/9746712:47
openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Move to software-config for the undercloud.  https://review.openstack.org/9331912:48
openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add initial support for galera clustering  https://review.openstack.org/8388312:48
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/9325312:50
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openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add passthrough configuration glue.  https://review.openstack.org/9181012:56
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openstackgerritRyan Brady proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add svc-map element.  https://review.openstack.org/9677013:18
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openstackgerritRobert Parker proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Setup SSL for Ceilometer  https://review.openstack.org/9625713:22
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tzumainnjistr, quick question about your multiple overcloud spec, when you have a moment?13:35
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: Configurable /mnt/state  https://review.openstack.org/9487613:35
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jistrtzumainn: sec, i'll just dock my laptop13:41
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jistrtzumainn: shoot13:42
tzumainnjistr, thanks!  simple question - should your spec be updated to match jdob's new understanding of tuskar as a planning service?13:42
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Anuj_Hi is this the Openstack room?13:44
tzumainnbecause presumably that would imply we need some level of name-checking on the planning side which (I think) might not exist as it stands?13:44
rdopieraAnuj_: this is not a room, it's an irc channel, and it's not called #openstack, it's called #tripleo13:44
jistrtzumainn: hmm i guess so... thinking about it, if we change tuskar into a planning service, then the problem i was trying to solve will disappear :D13:44
jistrtzumainn: what do you mean by name checking?13:45
tzumainnwell, we don't want two planned clouds to have the same name, right?13:45
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jistrtzumainn: right, that would probably be solved by a uniqueness constraint on the planned cloud names (and when we switch to multi-tenancy, it would be uniqueness per tenant), but that probably doesn't warrant a blueprint...13:47
jistrjdob you broke my blueprint13:48
tzumainnjistr, right, but it's something that we don't have right now - does it warrant mentioning in the spec?13:48
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jdobjistr: I paved the way for it to be more awesome13:48
tzumainnthese are honest questions, not rhetorical btw : )13:48
jistrjdob: ok :D13:48
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tzumainnjistr, anyway, let me know if you think the spec should be updated for jdob's updates, or if you think the basic understanding is still essentially the same13:51
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jistrtzumainn: yeah it warrants mentioning somewhere, i'm just now wondering if there's anything more to the multiple overclouds spec than this constraint, if we go the "tuskar as a planning service way", then maybe it's better to add a sentence to jdob's blueprint that "Cloud names must be globally unique, when we implement multi-tenancy, they must be unique per tenant." rather than have a separate blueprint to state this sentence :) The multiple13:57
jistroverclouds blueprint essentially dealt with Tuskar<->Heat interaction, but if there's going to be none, then there's nothing to deal with probably. I need to think this more through, if supporting multiple clouds means something significant for the planning service, but my first guess is it doesn't.13:57
tzumainnjistr, okay, that's fair enough!13:57
jdobjistr: ya, I'm thinking the same thing, it's not so much a spec as it is just covered by mine13:59
tzumainnlook guys, I simplified your lives by killing a spec13:59
tzumainnyou can send me flowers later13:59
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jistrexcellent, thanks tzumainn >:D14:02
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jistrbut seriously, good job pointing that out, the sooner someone notices things like this, the better :)14:03
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tzumainnjdob, question for you if you have a moment14:10
jdobhit me14:11
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tzumainnso, tuskar has the plan template, heat has the deployed template14:11
tzumainnthe ui presumably has to parse both14:11
tzumainnis the ui parsing them, or is there a library that does it?14:11
jdobheat has classes for an object modeling of a template, but i'm not sure how easy they are to access14:12
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jdobseems like something they should provide anyway as a utility14:12
jdobso my vote is that in some capacity, heat provides that14:12
jdobeven if we have to get someone here to contribute it14:13
tzumainnokay14:13
tzumainnit feels like after the tuskar specs have general agreement, it might be worth doing a gap analysis between the UI and api, just to make sure things aren't falling between the cracks and we have common understanding14:14
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jistrtzumainn: i thought UI would work with Tuskar API on the level of "gimme 5 computes", then Tuskar API would give UI/CLI the full cloud template and we feed it to Heat... or is there a need to parse the templates?14:16
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nealphlsmola:can you take a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94730/ and let me know if the patchset you downloaded was the latest? I've not been able to re-create your issue with the latest patchset.14:18
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jistrnealph: afaik he's on PTO today, but should be at work tomorrow14:20
nealphjistr:thanks for the heads up...will try him then.14:21
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tzumainnjistr, hm - well, actually, I'm not entirely sure; I had thought we'd need to be able to (for example) parse out the roles being used14:28
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jistrtzumainn: ah ok... well on the planning side you should be able to get it directly from Tuskar API in JSON... on the currently-deployed side (Heat) i'm not sure if it's possible14:31
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tzumainnjistr, that seems like a gap to me - presumably when the UI is displaying information about a deployed overcloud, it's looking at Heat and not Tuskar, right?14:34
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jistrtzumainn: yes, that's what i meant14:36
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Remove support for legacy testenv-client  https://review.openstack.org/9751814:38
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jistrso one way around it would be to version the planned cloud, and keep track on the heat stack of: 1) what tuskar cloud was used to create the heat stack 2) what version it was. Then you could fetch info from Tuskar about that version of tuskar cloud (even if it's not the most recent one) instead of trying to parse a heat template.14:39
jistrtzumainn: ^14:39
tzumainnisn't there the danger that either tuskar or heat is updated independently of the other?14:41
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jistrtzumainn: yes there is. It would be an issue even if we proxied calls from tuskar to heat. Someone could just go and talk to heat directly anyway. I wonder if we need to worry about this though. E.g. when one deploys a heat stack they can directly ssh into the machine and change its contents completely, e.g. make it a minecraft server even though heat deployed it with a template/image that contained mysql server.14:48
jdobtzumainn: there's a bunch of dangers like that14:48
jistri kinda hope that people wouldn't do that :)14:48
jdobright, what jistr said, we can never actually stop people from going directly to the underlying services14:48
jdobthere's a few hundred ways someone could screw things up if they wanted :)14:48
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:15:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132576215:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1325762 in tripleo "intermittent tftp issues using physical hardware" [Undecided,New]15:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132009015:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1320090 in tripleo "pxe_ephemeral_format': u'ext4 left on nodes after deploys deleted" [Undecided,New]15:00
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tzumainnjdob, jistr, right, which is why I thought we were going directly to heat for information about the deployed stack15:03
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* jistr bbl for weekly meeting15:25
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openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Update bootstack to use sysctl-set-value.  https://review.openstack.org/8460015:33
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Name sysctl.d files with .conf  https://review.openstack.org/9754015:33
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openstackgerritRyan Brady proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Remove uneeded code from pkg-map  https://review.openstack.org/9754215:39
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: Tripleo CI improvements  https://review.openstack.org/9502615:59
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GheRiveroSigning error: Unable to load certificate - ensure you have configured PKI with "keystone-manage pki_setup"16:02
GheRiveroanyone has faced something similar?16:02
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gonerihi, do you have an idea why the patch is not merged? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93206/ ?16:05
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pblahogoneri: b/c it needs to get approved16:10
gonerioh, indeed, the Workflow+1 is missing. thanks.16:11
pblahogoneri: we do not approve patches if CI is failing even if it is not problem with that patch16:11
pblahogoneri: I will do it now16:12
goneripblaho: thanks Petr16:12
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pblahogoneri: done16:12
pblahonp...16:12
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pblahogoneri: but it will take some time till it will land... there is long queue on gate16:14
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: TripleO Template and Deployment Plan Storage  https://review.openstack.org/9755316:25
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fungianybody happen to know why we're getting BadRequest: Can not find requested image (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-8066372f-8a25-4ca9-982a-5fe3a3476210) when nodepool is attempting to launch nodes in tripleo-test-cloud-rh1?16:53
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fungiare there ongoing storage issues there or anything?16:53
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fungiour active (latest) images there according to nodepool's list are 9820141c-bdd0-4b46-b0c1-e70b9de51dbd and ddce1d58-12c7-49b0-a506-5e8f9b294ae4 which were added about 2 hours ago16:56
fungilifeless: devananda: Ng: SpamapS: jogo: GheRivero: derekh: dprince: slagle: ^16:57
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fungiahh, yep, glance image-list does not show 9820141c-bdd0-4b46-b0c1-e70b9de51dbd as existing at all17:01
fungiso we're failing to build f20 nodes there as of the past couple hours17:01
dprincefungi: So I think rh1 (the HP rack) is down at the moment17:01
fungii can try to delete that one from nodepool's list so that it doesn't keep trying to use it17:01
dprincefungi: or at least it should be...17:01
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fungidprince: rh1 is the rh rack. hp1 is the hp rack (which is apparently also sometimes called r1)17:02
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dprincefungi: ah, gotcha. Let me check the image listing real quick17:02
SpamapSheh.. I just realized I don't know how to login to the rh1 region at all17:03
SpamapS$ ssh heat-admin@ci-overcloud.rh1.tripleo.org17:03
SpamapSssh: connect to host ci-overcloud.rh1.tripleo.org port 22: Connection refused17:03
SpamapSNot the same was as R1 ;)17:03
dprincefungi: so that image was apparently deleted today17:04
fungifun!17:04
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dprincefungi: http://paste.openstack.org/show/82641/17:04
funginodepool things it added it 2.19 hours ago and that it should be in a ready state17:04
fungithinks17:05
fungithat's right about the time it should have gone ready. checking the debug logs in nodepool for additional clues17:05
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Move to software-config for the undercloud.  https://review.openstack.org/9331917:06
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fungidprince: aha! smoking gun... http://paste.openstack.org/show/82646/17:12
fungidouble-barrel too. something broke in your cloud which caused the image to go into an error state, and something is wrong with nodepoold that it didn't remove that broken image itself17:13
dprincefungi: let me check the logs...17:13
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dprincefungi: TRACE glance.api.v1.upload_utils Got error from Swift: put_object('glance', '9820141c-bdd0-4b46-b0c1-e70b9de51dbd', ...) failure and no ability to reset contents for reupload.17:15
fungineat!17:16
SpamapSdisk full?17:16
dprinceSpamapS: no17:16
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SpamapSthats just always my first assumption on anything that uses disks17:17
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fungidisks do get full, that's their primary defining characteristic17:18
Shrewspcrews: Welcome!!!!!17:19
Shrewspcrews: can't believe we suckered you in17:19
dprincefungi: I just uploaded 3 images with no issues.17:19
dprincefungi: can we just rekick it?17:20
dprincefungi: I'm wondering if this was a fluke of some sort (not sure what yet...)17:20
fungidprince: i can just delete the image id from the nodepool end and it will start using the old image, then i can ask it to try to build another new one17:20
fungii was mainly making sure i didn't destroy any lingering state we needed to hunt down the nodepool failure to correct for that condition17:21
dprincefungi: yeah, lets go with that for now. I was trying things as a different tenant (not using the nodepool account itself). if it reoccurs I'll try that account next17:21
SpamapSShrews: we offered him all the cupcakes he can eat and bitchfaces he can drink.17:22
dprincefungi: I've got to run off for a bit, should be back online in an hour or so...17:22
fungipcrews: i second Shrews's welcoming17:22
ShrewsSpamapS: I would say I won't let you corrupt him, but I'm afraid he'll corrupt you  :)17:23
* dprince fungi or just email me dprince@redhat.com if you prefer17:23
fungidprince: okay, mostly just wanted to make sure there was actually something broken on the far end too. i think we've got enough details for the infra side now17:23
dprincefungi: cool17:24
* pcrews thanks fungi and tells Shrews to let him enjoy the illusion for a little while longer ;)17:24
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openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Separate Heat BM and VM configs for Nova-BM.  https://review.openstack.org/9003317:28
openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Make a separation between --heat-env  https://review.openstack.org/9309117:28
openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Use seed ip instead of gateway ip for ssh-keygen.  https://review.openstack.org/9421917:29
openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Wait for ssh demon to become active  https://review.openstack.org/9651517:29
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Fix coverage report generation with tox  https://review.openstack.org/9757918:01
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/os-apply-config: Fix coverage report generation  https://review.openstack.org/9758318:07
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: Deploy cloud hypervisor type  https://review.openstack.org/9458618:21
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SpamapSadam_g: https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1316475 <-- what is your current workaround for that?18:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1316475 in diskimage-builder "[SRU] CloudSigma DS for causes hangs when serial console present" [Critical,In progress]18:34
lifelesso/18:35
SpamapSadam_g: I want to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91864/ (reinstates trusty as default) but not until that workaround is present18:35
adam_gSpamapS, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95598/18:35
SpamapSah did we miss the bug linkage there or something?18:35
SpamapSadam_g: ty18:37
adam_gSpamapS, must have. original bug was filed against tripleo-incubator, but not tagged as diskimage-builder till after patch was up?18:37
SpamapSahh18:37
SpamapSyeah18:37
SpamapSsilly bug tasks18:37
SpamapSadam_g: I wonder though if we shouldn't also have ubuntu depend on that element and have it set the default to Ec2..18:38
SpamapSat least, until the SRU lands in 14.0418:38
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adam_gSpamapS, we could.. my plan was to push a tripleo-incubator patch to set it in devtest18:39
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adam_gSpamapS, or we just make Ec2 the default for that element18:39
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morganfainberglifeless, is there a thread on that topic we discussed a couple weeks ago?18:53
morganfainberglifeless, the user_id vs "friendly" lookup?18:54
morganfainberglifeless, i'm digging through trying to find it so i can poke it as needed from an identity stand point (user_ids are not friendly for config files imo, but there are arguments to use them)18:54
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lifelessthere was yes18:55
lifelessuhm18:55
lifelessFIIK the thread title18:55
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morganfainbergmy google FU wasn't turning things up on this front...but i might be missing some key elementat that would make it show up18:56
lifelessmorganfainberg: [openstack-dev] [Heat] [Keystone] [TripleO] Making use of domains by name - policy and API issues?18:58
lifelessInbox18:58
lifelessx18:58
lifeless'clint keystone domain unique' found it for me :)18:58
morganfainberglifeless, awesome, i'll read up on that and breath some life into it (if it's not too scary to do so)18:59
morganfainbergthanks!18:59
* morganfainberg might just make some other recommendations to get from where we are to where we need to be18:59
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lifelessmeeting time!19:00
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dprincefungi: how is nodepool?19:02
fungithe new image seemed to build, but we have other fires to deal with now19:03
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: Deploy cloud hypervisor type  https://review.openstack.org/9458619:32
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derekh_lifeless: I think that tar ball creation error message is a red herring, details added to bug20:03
lifelessderekh_: ok20:04
lifelessderekh_: I see, sure.20:04
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openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: Unit Testing TripleO Projects  https://review.openstack.org/9588720:43
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openstackgerritRichard Su proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Move rabbitmq-server cluster port  https://review.openstack.org/9170420:54
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132576221:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1325762 in tripleo "intermittent tftp issues using physical hardware" [Undecided,New]21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/132601621:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1326016 in tripleo "Different configuration files for different nova services are merged together not allowing to specify specific value for a specific service" [Undecided,New]21:00
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openstackgerritChris Krelle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adjust rpc thread pool for Ironic  https://review.openstack.org/9346321:03
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Allow overcloud fixed range to be configurable  https://review.openstack.org/9762621:05
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stevebakerlifeless: attribute memoization hasn't landed yet - its still in the merge queue21:15
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Allow overcloud fixed range to be configurable  https://review.openstack.org/9762621:15
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add os-is-bootstrap-host element and script  https://review.openstack.org/8643521:24
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SpamapSstevebaker: hasn't it been there for like.. a week?21:32
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greghaynesLooks like it has a +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94755/21:34
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greghaynesCan I get a +A on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89925/ (tests passed)21:35
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SpamapSgreghaynes: from what I see, zuul is a bit.. overwhelmed.. so it may be a while, but +A'd nonetheless.21:39
greghaynespoor zuul21:40
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lifelessSpamapS: the polling stress test21:45
lifelessSpamapS: StevenK and I are confused about how to spin up the pollers21:46
SpamapSlifeless: scrape info from resource-metadata21:46
lifelessSpamapS: was there a script to to that? I don't fancy doing 2K by hand21:47
SpamapSlifeless: yes21:47
SpamapSit was an unholy one liner21:47
lifelesscan has ?21:47
SpamapSStevenK did it21:47
SpamapSand I thought broke it out a bit and put it in a review somewhere21:47
SpamapScalled like "kill-heat"21:48
lifelessah21:48
lifelesshe blamed you21:48
lifelessyou blame him. Great.21:48
lifeless:)21:48
SpamapSno doubt I conceived of the monster21:48
SpamapSbut he sewed up all the bits and found me a brain21:48
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SpamapSApparently, the monster escaped21:48
SpamapSlifeless: I know for sure I don't have it socked away somewhere21:49
SpamapSand now I need to run out for some errands.21:49
lifelesskk21:49
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Extract upstart logs so they can be loaded into logstash  https://review.openstack.org/9630821:50
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Extract upstart logs so they can be loaded into logstash  https://review.openstack.org/9630821:54
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openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Only use Ec2 cloud-init data source for Ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/9763421:56
openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Reinstate Trusty as default for Ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/9186421:58
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adam_gSpamapS, ^ updated with dependencies that will work around the cloud-init issue till fixed21:59
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add os-is-bootstrap-host element and script  https://review.openstack.org/8643522:01
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SpamapSadam_g: +2's around22:03
* SpamapS disappears for a bit22:03
adam_gdoesnt seem like there is a cloud-init SRU rushing into the queue, so probably good idea to merge that in the short term22:04
greghaynesadam_g: What do you think about making the CLOUD_INIT_DATASOURCES fix check for DIB_RELEASE=trusty?22:05
lifelessgreghaynes: surely thats the ubuntu elements perogative?22:06
greghaynesyes, I mean the fix in the ubuntu element22:06
greghayneshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/97634/1/elements/ubuntu/environment.d/10-cloud-init-datasources.bash22:06
lifelessack22:06
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adam_ggreghaynes, sure22:08
adam_ggreghaynes, well, actually no. as it is, cloud-init-datasources requires the environment variable be set to at least one source. if its conditional, it can't depend on the element22:09
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adam_ghappy to reconsider that requirement, tho22:09
greghayneshrm. probably not worth it then22:11
lifelessadam_g: -1 on it22:13
greghaynesargh, it is in dib-elements though, and those are supposed to be general usage-ish22:13
adam_glifeless, ?22:13
lifelessadam_g: the environment.d stuff runs in order22:14
lifelessyou have not supplied a gap between the cloud-init-nocloud elements position and the ubuntu one22:14
adam_goh, right22:14
lifelessor rather, the gap you have isn't clear enough to avoid confusion (and I haven't strictly checked that there is such a gap in fact...)22:14
adam_gthanks22:14
lifelessdid nick's suggestions for tftp help?22:16
adam_glifeless, which?22:22
lifelessI dunno22:22
lifelessapparently ng and nick chatted last night22:22
lifelessbut i haven't seen any comms from Ng about it...22:22
adam_gim no sure. things are stable again22:22
openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Extract upstart logs so they can be loaded into logstash  https://review.openstack.org/9630822:23
lifelessadam_g: cool! but we don't know what changed?22:23
adam_gbut im not sure thats because we rotated out the old seed host /w potentially problematic hardware, or because new firmware was pushed out everywhere22:23
adam_gim not convinced it is firmware related.. the original seed host is still showing the same symptoms22:23
Nglifeless: I upgraded the mellanox/raid firmwares to the same versions that 306 is running, but GheRivero had already had a successful run before I did that22:23
Ngso..... erp?22:24
adam_gas is one other node in the rack that has been excluded from our deploys isnce the beginning22:24
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adam_gNg, im about 90% into my second successful run right now on 405, and have another going on 30622:24
Ng(27 rounds of firmware upgrades was not fun, but if someone needs to do it on any of the other nodes that aren't in nodes.json, the newer seed host has ~cetest/fw/hell.tgz with all the parts you need, and a script in it called inferis.sh that will automate everything bar saying "yes" twice22:25
Ngadam_g: nice22:25
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lifelessNg: why not bake that into the deploy ramdisk ?22:27
Nglifeless: I'm not at all opposed to doing that sort of thing, but I wanted to just get this done so we could get back to testing deploys. The mellanox firmware would definitely be doable in the ramdisk. the RAID fw is a bit trickier in that it expects you to type yes twice and is one of those hateful self-extracting shell archives, so will be pretty fiendish to modify22:29
lifelessack22:29
lifelessNg: expect?22:29
Nglifeless: I knew you'd say that ;)22:29
NgI mean, sure, we could shove expect into the ramdisk too, why not!22:30
TheJuliaNg: sed -i could possibly be used to modify the script to remove the text entry22:30
NgTheJulia: I suspect it\s not directly in the script, those SHAR things tend to just be an extractor script with a giant wad of data at the end, with all of the actuall installer scripts inside that :/22:30
Ngbut I'm sure we could make it work22:30
TheJulia:\ ugh, well if its in the script it would be easy, but yeah, otherwise its expect :(22:31
Nglifeless: I sort of think this would make more sense as a separate image that ironic would boot either as part of the initial validation of a node, or at later instruction. I guess it's probably down to the time for that extra reboot, vs the overhead of a bigger ramdisk22:32
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lifelessNg: so, maybe, but we can work with what we've got, no ?22:32
lifelessIPA will apparently solve everything (though I think its a mistake to centralise but thats a different discussion)22:33
NgIronic Pale Ale22:33
lifelessNg: note that if we have two different ramdisks, its not just a new boot, its also two copies of the kernel being transferred etc etc22:33
Ngwe'd probably also want to test things like the safety of repeated runs of the fw upgrade scripts (i.e. do they detect there is nothing to do and exit cleanly)22:34
Nghmm22:34
lifelessNg: indeed, idempotency ftw22:34
jogolifeless:  so rudamentry heat scale testing in gate22:38
jogolifeless: while infra is backed up thought I would dive into some non-patch intensive things22:39
jogoSpamapS: ^22:39
lifelesscool22:40
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: TripleO on OpenStack  https://review.openstack.org/9264222:40
jogolifeless: so last I heard some folks had some proof of concept code22:41
jogolifeless: do you know who it was?22:41
lifelessjogo: null virt driver, a stock tripleo template to deploy N hypervisor, and then a script to scrape the heat resource metadata and run os-collect-config once per machine22:42
Ngit was StevenK, right?22:42
Nghe mentioned at the summit that he was doing tremendously evil things for lifeless22:42
openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Extract mysql reset files from reset-db  https://review.openstack.org/9310422:43
lifelesswell spamaps, but yes22:43
jogoso is there any PoC code out there?22:43
lifelessjogo: apparently there is a review up with the scraping code22:44
lifelessthe rest of it, no.22:44
lifelessit was done by hand22:44
jogolifeless: link?22:44
lifelessjogo: I say apparently because I haven't seen it22:45
lifelessjogo: have a look in tripleo-incubator perhaps? for things by stevenk22:45
openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Improve percona cluster initialization  https://review.openstack.org/9303222:45
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Ngadam_g: is that 405 run still holding steady?22:48
adam_gNg, yes, its completed now, just trying to ping the user instance22:48
Ngooh22:48
jogoahh https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93819/22:49
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greghaynesSpamapS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93554/9 re: why are they parameters, the ports will need to be used in more than one element (e.g. haproxy and app) and since there arent heat variables I assumed parameters would be better than hard coding numbers multiple places22:59
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lifelessgothicmindfood: so g+ ?23:08
lifelessgothicmindfood: oh, I see, uhm I don't have john's g+23:09
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Run free  https://review.openstack.org/9363423:20
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lifelesswat23:21
lifelessoh heh23:21
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openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Only use Ec2 cloud-init data source for Ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/9763423:27
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openstackgerritAdam Gandelman proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Reinstate Trusty as default for Ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/9186423:30
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Regenerate tuskar.conf.sample  https://review.openstack.org/9675923:42
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add haproxy element to overcloud-control image  https://review.openstack.org/9388023:43
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saurabhshey guys what is correct way of copying a file on image without it being run through os-apply-config23:47
saurabhsI want to copy a mysql config which is a jinja template, but if I configure it to be part of os-apply-config element then the template is messed up23:48
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-collect-config: Use json equality rather than raw text  https://review.openstack.org/9454823:57
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