Monday, 2014-06-23

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tchayponow that i have caffeine i have a sudden craving for carrot juice. I wonder how much a juicer would cost me00:18
tchaypoand how much lifeless would frown00:19
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TheJuliaI think I'll defer my caffeine intake until sometime around 6 AM local tomorrow morning00:44
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Move client creation functions to utils  https://review.openstack.org/10178300:48
tchaypoTheJulia: why so early? Sleep in till 7100:51
tchaypos/71/7!/00:51
TheJuliaI tend to wake up early, it can be good sometimes, but its also a curse in that by 10 PM I'm heading towards bed most nights.00:52
greghaynesso, the folio 9470m laptops many of us have apparently come with vpro support... but I cannot find this in the bios for the life of me :(00:54
tchaypowhat is vpro?00:54
greghaynesILO-like thing intel makes00:55
* tchaypo points self at http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vpro00:55
tchaypoaccording to wikipedia the ILO-like thing is called Active Management Technology, or AMT, but that's just one of the features marketed under the generic heading of vPro00:56
greghaynestheres a lot of funky things like "HP Hypervisor" and "HP Application"00:56
greghaynesyea00:56
greghaynesreally I just want AMT00:56
tchayposo maybe the laptops have some of the other features like trusted execution and such..00:56
StevenKTrusted execution is a bit of a misnomer00:57
greghayneshehe00:57
tchaypoyeah. And then we add a nova driver for it (maybe there is one already?) and then we can have 4 of them in our bedroom acting as a small cluster and we can finally do proper real-metal testing00:57
greghaynesthats basically what I wanted to derp with00:57
greghaynesvpro + ironic00:58
greghayneser, amt00:58
* tchaypo has tweaked git diff settings and now is able to be using gertty00:58
tchaypoonce it pulls down the 714 remaining changes00:58
tchaypomake that 72301:00
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Stop using sysctl -p in sysctl-set-value  https://review.openstack.org/10178401:01
tchaypo728...01:03
tchaypo729...01:03
tchaypoIn other news01:04
tchaypoone of my favourite things about working on a global project is exposure to other english topolects01:05
tchaypoalso StevenK needs to tell me wha tI'm buying on steam today01:05
tchaypo76801:05
StevenKI do?01:06
greghaynesplanetary anihilation01:07
StevenKgreghaynes: Huh, I didn't know you were on Steam01:09
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greghaynesYep, hard to guess name01:10
StevenKHahaha01:10
StevenKHm01:11
StevenK"Search produced no results"01:11
greghaynesreally?01:11
greghaynesit says greghaynes account on top right of my window *shrug*01:12
greghaynesoh, theres multiple layers of names in steam01:13
* StevenK stabs the unclear mobile interface01:13
StevenKYeah01:13
greghaynesshould all be greghaynes now, depending on how long their indexing lag is01:13
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StevenKHmmm, I'm not seeing a tchaypo in my friends list either01:15
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tchaypolook for jamezpolley01:17
StevenKHmmmm, I'm not sure if sysctl -p<file> -n will do what I want01:19
StevenKIt doesn't. Blah.01:21
lifelessmorning01:28
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StevenKlifeless: How was the flight over?01:29
lifelessStevenK: quite good except for the huge stomach cramps after I inadvisadly tried a glass of bubbly wine01:29
StevenKlifeless: WRT to your comment on my sysctl-append-value patch -- https://review.openstack.org/10178401:29
lifelessStevenK: yes01:29
tchaypogertty has gone down from 740 to 94001:31
StevenKThat isn't "down"01:31
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add a sysctl-append-value script  https://review.openstack.org/10111701:31
StevenKlifeless: ^ And that drops sysctl -p from -apend-value01:32
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Reserve the keystone high port out of ephemeral  https://review.openstack.org/10040701:33
StevenKBleh. By rights that commit message is wrong01:33
lifelessStevenK: 'by rights'01:33
lifelessHow about by etre?01:33
StevenKFailure to define by using either dict or Google, so I think your troll failed01:34
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Reserve the keystone high ports out of ephemeral  https://review.openstack.org/10040701:35
greghayneseek re sysctl -p in our chroot01:36
StevenKThe commit message might be a little too alarmist01:37
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morganfainberg_Llifeless: être ? :P01:40
morganfainberg_Llifeless: but not dure the inifitive would be right in that case :P01:40
lifelessmorganfainberg_L: it wouldn't be.01:42
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lifelessStevenK: the verb 'to be' in french, as morganfainberg_L got it.01:42
lifelessgreghaynes: haha you just spotted it?01:43
greghaynesyerp01:44
morganfainberg_Llifeless: if my french isn't awful (it is) ... éntant.. that is present particple, right? so "by being"? my brain hurts now... haven't done serious grammar in english in years.. let alone frnech01:45
* morganfainberg_L goes back to lurking.01:46
lifelessmorganfainberg_L: possibly? eesh, too hard for anfter a transpacific flight :)01:46
StevenKHaha01:46
morganfainberg_Llifeless: it's sunday here, and i'm sunburnt. though I still wouldn't trade you for the transpacific flight01:47
morganfainberg_Loh, you're in Sunnyvale this week aren't you?01:47
lifelessmorganfainberg_L: aye aye01:47
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morganfainberg_Lcool. i'd bug you about stuff in person, but it's a bit of a drive from LA :P01:53
* morganfainberg_L will live with IRC etc.01:54
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tchaypodown to only 26202:02
tchaypocards seem to be ordered02:04
StevenKtchaypo: With a GPG fingerprint?02:04
tchaypono. i should probably give up on the old key and just generate a new one02:04
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enable collectl on systemd OSes.  https://review.openstack.org/9285302:20
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lifelessisps and roainng -faaaaakkk02:24
lifelessrighto so hopefully gertty uploaded my comments02:24
lifelesshowever telecom apply 1dollar/MB from 200MB of daily traffic on up.02:25
lifelessI mean - wat.02:25
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lifelessbetter than the prior disconnect, but sheese. So I'll really only be online from the office or random wifi points.02:25
tchaypohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/97129/ has finally managed to pass CI02:29
tchaypobug *sigh* it depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92749/11 which hasn't been verified since bug 1292105 was fixed02:29
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1292105 in tripleo "ovs tunnel state not syncing (failure pinging overcloud instance)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129210502:29
tchayposo once that one passes then I'll push for it to be merged, then we can work on 9274902:30
tchaypogertty is back up to 35802:35
tchaypoi have no idea what that number means02:35
tchaypolifeless: am I right in thinking that your goal for the keepalived readme is to have syntactically-valid yaml embedded in syntactically-valid markdown?02:37
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/133245803:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/133252103:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332458 in diskimage-builder "Not able to build armhf or arm64 images on amd64 arch systems." [Undecided,New]03:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332521 in diskimage-builder "failed to remove `/tmp/image.A2aupYJb/mnt/tmp/in_target.d': Device or resource busy" [Undecided,New]03:00
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greghaynesAnyone seen this fail? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91861/ looks like http://logs.openstack.org/61/91861/1/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-overcloud-f20/c19996f/logs/overcloud-controller0-rwgdc5l3uxsz_logs/glance-api.txt.gz03:08
lifelesstchaypo: yes03:24
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tchaypoLifeless: have you been using a renderer to look at the output? I'm wondering if the tools I'm using parse it differently to gerrit/cgit03:56
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lifelesstchaypo: nup04:07
lifelesstchaypo: but if its wrong in my patch, please tell me ow to fix it. If its not wrong, its at least visually clearer and inline with the stuff clint did acros the board a few months back04:08
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tchaypoYep, I left a comment - summary is that a 4-space indent will tell markdown it's a coed block and not a really wired single run-on line of text04:23
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vinshgreghaynes, btw, take a gander at: http://paste.openstack.org/show/84648/  If you have issues with your mutlicontroller setup .. neutron attempts to talk to nova 8774 api on localhost by default.. modify the neutron t-i-e this way and its better.04:45
vinshAdded the error you may see in that paste.04:46
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GheRiveromorning TripleO06:09
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Drop ending slash from DIB_CLOUD_IMAGES  https://review.openstack.org/10180806:24
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tchaypoevening GheRivero06:34
tchaypowoo, gertty is finally at sync 006:35
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GheRiverogertty is being failing for me all weekend :/ Should do a clean install again06:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Make good use of TRIPLEO_OS_{FAMILY,DISTRO} where useful.  https://review.openstack.org/9374507:17
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Ngmorning08:03
tchayponow that i have gertty working it's nice.08:03
NgI should probably have a look at that08:04
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tchayposo like. I reckon lifeless has the spec process wrong.08:15
Ngtchaypo: in what way?08:15
tchayposee https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101438/3//COMMIT_MSG08:16
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Ngah08:16
tchaypohe's not creating blueprints on launchpad till the spec gets approved; but even before it's approved I have a change in flight that he's said should link to that url, which confuses reviewers because that url doesn't exist.08:16
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: Clarify when the blueprint should be created  https://review.openstack.org/10182508:29
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openstackgerritxu-haiwei proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Always save undercloud and overcloud password at $TRIPLEO_ROOT  https://review.openstack.org/9765708:30
tchaypohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/92749/ now has 3 +2s, 3 +1s, and it finally passed all the tests08:35
tchaypoif any cores could give it the +A it so clearly deserves I'd be very happy08:36
pblahotchaypo: looking on it08:37
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pblahotchaypo: +Aed08:40
* tchaypo does a dance08:40
pblahotchaypo: needs rebase08:40
* tchaypo curses08:40
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add details of which OS releases are tested in CI  https://review.openstack.org/9274908:58
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tchaypoit seems that my changes overlapped a bit with a change gfidente made09:00
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:09:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/133245809:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332458 in diskimage-builder "Not able to build armhf or arm64 images on amd64 arch systems." [Undecided,New]09:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/133252109:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332521 in diskimage-builder "failed to remove `/tmp/image.A2aupYJb/mnt/tmp/in_target.d': Device or resource busy" [Undecided,New]09:00
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tchaypoBecause we were saying similar things on the same lines, I've had to do a very manual thinky merge to try to get his changes and mine in there; I'm hoping I haven't lost any of gfidente's meaning09:00
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openstackgerritxu-haiwei proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Always save undercloud and overcloud password at $TRIPLEO_ROOT  https://review.openstack.org/9765709:16
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gonerihi all, can a core review have a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96749/ I need it to unblock https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96769/09:19
GheRiveromorning goneri, looking on it09:23
gonerithanks GheRivero09:26
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Factor out error behavior in dib-lint  https://review.openstack.org/9585009:38
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openstackgerritxu-haiwei proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Always save undercloud and overcloud password at $TRIPLEO_ROOT  https://review.openstack.org/9765709:55
gfidentetchaypo, please10:03
gfidentemy stuff has been merged once but had to be rebased10:03
gfidenteand now is again waiting for being merged from long time10:03
gfidenteI didn't want to push people but I think it is worth a merge10:04
gfidenteit's just sitting there from very long time10:04
gfidentetchaypo, wait I'm ranting for no reasons, it was actually merged 3h ago it seems10:05
tchaypolol10:06
gfidenteshame on me10:06
gfidentesigh :(10:06
tchaypo"Updated June 23, 2014 5:17pm"10:08
tchaypoYep, yours merged just as I was getting mine through the round of checks that passed10:08
tchaypogreat timing :)10:08
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gfidenteindeed, all I wanted to ask if to merge that first :)10:09
tchaypoI think the way I've done the merge doesn't trample on the changes you wanted to make10:09
tchaypobut if it does let me know and I can tweak it10:09
gfidente+1 that from me on that10:12
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* TheJulia sips coffee attempting to wake up10:15
tchaypoHello TheJulia10:20
TheJuliagood morning10:24
openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Enable multi-node rabbitmq cluster  https://review.openstack.org/9870910:24
openstackgerritxu-haiwei proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Remove inappropriate if judgement of creating under/over cloud password  https://review.openstack.org/9765710:26
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tchaypoSergey is investigating the docs gate issues - it's affecting other projects as well10:48
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dtantsurtchaypo, thanks for tracking this, Ironic is affected too10:58
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tchaypoxuhaiwei: are you around?11:28
xuhaiweiyes11:29
tchaypodtantsur: thank sergeylukjanov (in #openstack-infra), he did the work :)11:29
tchaypoxuhaiwei: Your change is the second change that's proposed the same thing - I think that makes it fairly clear this is causing problems for people11:30
tchaypobut I don't know how to go forward. Perhaps a mailing list post to ask about it?11:30
tchaypoAs far as I can see, neither issue has had anyone objecting - StevenK and I have had a few quibbles with the specifics of the code change but other than that, neither change seems to have had any votes either way11:31
tchaypoI don't think there's anything wrong with you pushing forward on your change even though it's similar to the other one - one of the two will land first and then the other one should probably be abandoned11:32
xuhaiweitchaypo: yes, but I am not sure whether we should talk about it in the mail11:34
xuhaiweitchayo: the backward compatibility should be discussed you think?11:35
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xuhaiweitchayo: I almost forgot how I found that problem, it seems the source made me confused when both $PWD and $TRIPLEO_ROOT have the password created11:38
StevenKxuhaiwei: I think it's a fairly contenious change without a good answer.11:40
tchaypoYeah, discuss if now is the right time to get rid of it.11:40
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tchaypoStevenK: I feel like it's too early too; but (A) I fought too hard to get it in there, I don't trust my feelings now, and (B) we're going to have to get rid of it at some point, and (C) two people raising near-identical changes to fix it suggests it's causing problems in its current form, so at minimum we should probably be looking at whether it's going to be less effort to just break backwards compatibility11:42
tchaypothan to fix the other issues11:42
xuhaiweitchaypo: so how to test the effort of breaking backwards compatibility?  Just change the source and rebuild the environment again?11:49
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openstackgerritJan Provaznik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Enable multi-node rabbitmq cluster  https://review.openstack.org/9870911:54
tchaypoI don't think this change will get exercised by CI - because they've always put the files in $TRIPLEO_ROOT11:55
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tchaypothe only people who are going to be "broken" are people who got into the habit of always running the scripts from a particular location, and hence always used the passwords11:56
tchaypopersonally I'd be happy to see this "Break" - there was never any documentation that I saw about this, so I used to run the scripts from several different places, and now I've got several different password files of different ages11:56
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jdobshadower: ping13:17
shadowerjdob: pong13:18
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jdobquestion on "I can imagine a scenario where a role could have its own environment attached." ... what does that look like? the only way I've seen an environment linked to a template is through the command line when making stack calls, what do you mean by "attached"13:18
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shadowerjdob: so since each role is a provider resource -- and therefore a standalone template that can be passed to Heat and turned into a stack13:20
shadowerjdob: that template (role) can have sub-templates that are implemented as provider resources, too, rigth?13:20
jdobshadower: hang on a second13:20
jdobi was questioning more from a general heat perspective13:21
jdobpurely speaking in terms of templates, how would the attached environment get refrerenced?13:22
shadowerjdob: by passing the environment file. That's what I meant by "attached"13:22
shadowerjdob: I just wanted to point out that the template + environment + sub-templates scenario can be recursive13:22
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shadoweri.e. a sub-template can have it's own sub-templates and therefore its own environment13:23
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shadowernow in such a scenario, I'm not sure if you could pass all the environment files together or if you had to compile them to a single one13:23
jdobconceptually I understand that, just not sure how it'd work out. let's say I have templates A and B, each with an environment. i have a master template that uses A and B as provider resources. where are the environments for A and B specified?13:24
jdobahh, ok13:24
jdobthat's where my confusion lied13:24
shadowerrigth13:24
shadowerI think that's something we ought to investigate. I just want to make sure it's spelled out somewhere13:24
jdobgotcha13:24
jdobok cool, thanks13:25
shadowerjdob: the alternative of course is to maintain all the resource type -> template mappings in a single global environment13:25
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lifelessmorning13:32
lifelesstchaypo: the issue is that you're landing something before the spec is approved13:32
lifelesstchaypo: in other projects thats very naughty :)13:33
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Split api.py into multiple files  https://review.openstack.org/10134413:35
jdoblifeless: btw, I spoke with slagle and I'm now TripleO Release Certified (TM)13:37
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openstackgerritTomas Sedovic proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: Remove merge.py from TripleO Heat Templates  https://review.openstack.org/9793913:48
lifelessjdob: may the force be with you13:51
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jlabockiping ccrouch14:34
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ccrouchjlabocki: otp14:40
jlabockiccrouch: ok. Whenever you have a chance, I hit another wall while following - http://openstack.redhat.com/Deploying_an_RDO_Overcloud_with_Instack . Here is the fpaste - http://fpaste.org/112202/35340671/14:41
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:15:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/133328515:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/133245815:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333285 in tuskar "instack-deploy-overcloud-tuskarcli fails when instack-prepare-for-overcloud is not previously run" [Undecided,New]15:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/133252115:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332458 in diskimage-builder "Not able to build armhf or arm64 images on amd64 arch systems." [Undecided,New]15:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332521 in diskimage-builder "failed to remove `/tmp/image.A2aupYJb/mnt/tmp/in_target.d': Device or resource busy" [Undecided,New]15:00
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ccrouchjlabocki: next call, will ping when off15:10
jlabockiack15:10
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: MySQL Element: Make userhandle an optional paramater  https://review.openstack.org/9921415:22
lifelessok morning morning15:24
dprincelifeless: morning15:25
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enable collectl on systemd OSes.  https://review.openstack.org/9285315:25
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Explicitly specify mysql node address  https://review.openstack.org/9777515:28
lifelessdprince: ola!15:32
lifelessdprince: hey so I need some help on a fedora patch15:32
dprincelifeless: hit me15:32
lifelessdprince: I'm doing the vlan support stuff needed to get hp1 back online15:32
lifelessdprince: to do it sanely I need to make the vlan interface an access port on the ovs br-ex15:33
lifelessdprince: which dum dum dum dummmmm means I need to stop destroying it (or make us run custom code on every bring-up to do all the interface config - ugh)15:33
lifelessdprince: I've got a patch up for /e/n/i systems, but I want to keep parity15:34
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/101718/15:34
lifelessand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101719/15:34
lifelessI know you're working on the next gen story, I'm hoping to get 'just enough' in place to bring the region back15:34
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dprincelifeless: let me ponder a bit, don't have the answer off the top of my head but I'll mess with it15:36
lifelesscool15:37
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lifelessdprince: I'm in sunnyvale this week15:37
lifelessdprince: FWIW15:37
dprincelifeless: I figured you were somewhere, since you should be asleep right now :)15:38
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lifeless:)15:39
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ekarlsoIs there a reason why base https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/blob/master/elements/base/install.d/10-cloud-init  has manage_etc_hosts=true and one uses the hosts element cloud init destroys the hosts file ?15:44
ekarlsohaving a problem with a mysql cluster where cloud init destroys hosts file after a reboot and rmq doesn't come up due to it15:47
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openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Split ssh keys into files per user.  https://review.openstack.org/10157615:59
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add --users option to update-admin-ssh-keys  https://review.openstack.org/10161715:59
openstackgerritThom Leggett proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adds passthrough config for nova rootwrap  https://review.openstack.org/9681115:59
openstackgerritThom Leggett proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adds passthrough config for cinder rootwrap  https://review.openstack.org/9731215:59
dprincelifeless: I need this before I can fix tchaypo's ssh keys https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101576/15:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: map-services: add openvswitch  https://review.openstack.org/9674916:00
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lifelessdprince: reviewed though perhaps gertty is having f/w trouble. poking16:07
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-apply-config: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/9908316:13
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add unit test to enforce unique file names.  https://review.openstack.org/9470516:18
bthurberjlabocki: I am going to wipe and start a new instack deployment16:19
jlabockibthurber: ack16:21
jlabockiI'm going to wait for ccrouch16:21
jlabocki:)16:21
openstackgerritGonéri Le Bouder proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: use os-svc-enable to enable openvswitch  https://review.openstack.org/9676916:22
ccrouchjlabocki: moments away :-)16:23
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mordredwhy does os_collect_config require eventlet?16:29
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gfidentedprince, are the CI instances running on 2GB of RAM with i386 arch?16:46
lifelessgfidente: 4G amd6416:47
gfidentelifeless, ah okay, because I hit a not enough memory in the undercloud running on 2G16:48
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dprincegfidente: I believe our testenv-workers now use the devtest_testenv defaults for the CI16:49
gfidentedprince, 2G amd64 didn't work for me ... but defaults are 2G i386 ... I'm rerunning it now to see if it fits16:50
dprincegfidente/lifeless: So 2G16:51
dprincegfidente: The arch is however amd6416:51
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gfidenteinteresting, I got the neutron dhcp agent die on the undercloud and later mysql too as I was out of memory16:52
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dprincehttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/commit/elements/testenv-worker?id=48c51e9783181b122f75d671064979f82e98532f16:52
dprincegfidente: ^^ that is the relevant testenv-worker commit16:53
gfidenteyeah I see it's using the defaults except for _ARCH16:53
dprincelifeless: re, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101718/1 , VLANS, etc. Is there a bug with information about what you are trying to do?16:54
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dprincelifeless: so you are saying you *need* to make the OVS DB persistent, why? For that matter attaching a VLAN to a linux bridge should work too no? And they are persistent via a database right?16:57
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lifelessdprince: rh1 envs are actually 4g - I checked last week17:05
lifelessdprince: you can see it in the free17:05
lifelessdprince: the vlan has to be on br-ex because its the same network card17:06
lifelessdprince: if its not on br-ex, we won't have neutron work properly17:06
rameshg87hello lifeless17:06
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lifelessdprince: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ci-hp1-rebuild line 35, I *thought* I filed a bug17:07
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lifelessdprince: looking for the bug now17:08
dprincelifeless: oh, so I had assumed they got rebuilt. We need to do that then...17:08
lifelessdprince: openstack won't work with 2G VMs unless we do i386 builds17:08
rameshg87lifeless, request you to take a look at some of the reviews in diskimage-builder that i had, they have been waiting for a couple of weeks :-(17:08
lifelessdprince: before rebuilding them, StevenK is fixing up a bug that leads to missing creds for ironic17:08
rameshg87lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97301/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97143/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97736/17:09
lifelessrameshg87: I'm flat out, I will when I can but there are many other reviewers too. What in particular need sme?17:09
gfidentelifeless, actually that is what I'm experiencing too17:09
rameshg87lifeless, just a quick help i might need. how do i find other reviewers ?17:09
lifelessrameshg87: you can ask here17:09
gfidentelifeless, but as dprince pointed I don't see it set anywhere so ... was it possibly set to 4G manually in the testenvs or are there alternatives?17:10
rameshg87lifeless, nothing particular for you alone. i will try to see if i can get other reviewers. thanks17:10
dprincelifeless: seed vm's are 2 Gigs, all the rest are 417:11
dprincelifeless: at least that is what I see when I just manually checked17:11
gfidentedprince, ok that makes sense as seed worked for me with 2g; undercloud failed17:11
gfidentewhere do we set that though? I don't see it in tripleo-ci , was it manually set?17:11
lifelessgfidente: its set in the testenv that is delivered at the part of the test.17:12
lifelessdprince: oh, seed of 2G could be causing trouble, we probably need to make that 4G too17:12
dprincelifeless: Hmmm. I would actually like to go the otherway and use less space.17:13
rameshg87GheRivero, slagle, request you to take a look at couple of reviews  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97301/   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97143/    https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97736/17:13
lifelessdprince: I'd like to be high fidelity vs what we deploy if possible.17:14
lifelessdprince: but if we need to we need to.17:15
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lifelessdprince: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1325114 is one of two issues17:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1325114 in tripleo "can't deploy underclouds with VLAN API endpoints" [High,Triaged]17:17
gfidenteso FWIW I can confirm that same setup worked using 2G and i386... but not using amd6417:17
lifelessdprince: the other is covered in review 10015117:18
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dprincelifeless: If you go this route I think we break parity17:21
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dprincelifeless: We don't have the equivalent 'pre-up' sorts of things in the netscripts. No rolling our own, sorts of things...17:22
dprincelifeless: I'd totally buy this for the iproute2 impl in the new provider. But I think if we have to have a slew of pre-up pre-down modifications to the standard Debian network scripts we are doing something wrong17:22
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lifelessdprince: I can't find a better bug. I'm going to start an etherpad on just this narrow thing. sec.17:25
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jogoSpamapS: ping17:27
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lifelessdprince: so17:38
lifelessdprince: notes in the etherpad17:38
lifelessdprince: where can I read docs on the fedora netscripts stuff ?17:38
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lifelessdprince: because if we can't figure this out the new thing will end up with /only/ the iproute2 driver, which is probably not idea17:39
lifelessideal17:39
lifelessgrabbing a water, bbs17:39
dprincelifeless: I read the scripts directly. But if you are looking for online docs you could look at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/System_Administrators_Guide/s1-networkscripts-interfaces.html17:40
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dprincelifeless: or something similar, a bit old perhaps17:41
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SpamapSjogo: pong, wassup?17:43
dprincelifeless: So rather than using vconfig (which is arguably part of the iproute2 driver anyways why not consider bringing up the vlan via an ENI file like this: http://git.openvswitch.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openvswitch;a=blob;f=debian/openvswitch-switch.README.Debian;hb=HEAD17:43
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dprincelifeless: those docs have served me well... Just curious if you have tried that?17:43
jogoSpamapS: line 60 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91444/15/specs/juno/tag-instances.rst17:44
jogoyour thoughts would be appreciated17:44
jogore: tags17:44
SpamapSjogo: Ok, I'll put it mid-stack.. have a lot of stuff to get through.. people email too much. ;)17:45
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jogothanks, much apprecated17:46
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lifelessdprince: I'll give that a go17:53
lifelessdprince: there's also issue with the mac address not being stable that michael kerrin is poking at, which derek and I got going easily via the patch set I put up17:53
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dprincelifeless: I'm going to test that. Presumably all I need to do is run an Ubuntu host and then reboot it?18:00
lifelessdprince: I guess; the thing desired is to tell the bridge to use a specific MAC (the one neutron expects)18:00
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dprincelifeless: that isn't how it is suppose to work though. I mean you could do that as an advanced option but bridges typically obtain MACs from real NICs automatically.18:01
lifelessthat behaviour is fine for l2 only bridges, but we have an IP on it allocated via dhcp18:02
lifelessso the mac matters to us18:02
lifelessotherwise DHCP fails18:02
lifelessdprince: bbiab - meetings18:03
dprincelifeless: So first this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-incubator/tree/scripts/configure-vm#n1118:03
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dprincelifeless: also, I wonder if this is a side effect leftover from Roman's change here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/commit/elements/network-utils/bin/ensure-bridge?id=78f8e61d4bb19593c50c239515153b627d6fb5cc18:06
dprincelifeless: note: the first half of the commit is all about the ensure-bridge refactor (having that in his commit message confused me quite a bit, so it probably shouldn't be there)18:06
dprincelifeless: or perhaps this is related to that in some fashion. Hard to say... but you are using Trusty now so perhaps you no longer need that?18:07
jdoblifeless, slagle, anyone else who has done releases: if git log shows no changes from the previous release, is there a reason to bother bumping the version and doing another release?18:08
SpamapSjdob: only reason would be if the release-machinery broke18:09
jdobits good that we let the subprojects get out of sync in version numbers. on my previous project, we kept them all the same, so we'd do those sorts of no-change releases just to keep the numbering consistent18:11
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slagleright. i don't release in that scenario. there's nothing to release :)18:14
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jdobcool, less work = more betterer18:18
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jdobnext dumb question, I see on Zuul's homepage where the releases I tagged are in progress, but when they complete (as the tuskar one did), it disappears and I can't find it listed anywhere. can somoene kick me to where I should look?18:19
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mordredgah.18:25
mordreddib failing randomly and can't find the error in the output18:25
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slaglejdob: i'm not honestly sure. on jenkins maybe?18:46
slaglejdob: usually i verify that tarballs.openstack.org is updated and pypi18:47
jdobgotcha, i'll do that18:47
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greghaynesLeft a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96811 that id like some other input on since its a bit funky19:00
greghaynesas to whether we should be doing rootwrap config passthrough as service_rootwrap.config or service.rootwrap_config19:00
lifelessugh19:01
lifelessrootwrap has a .d directory structure19:01
lifelessI am having conceptual difficulty seeing why thats dynamic config19:01
lifelessbut maybe thats me19:02
lifelesseither way, it needs to be documented in the element README.19:02
ekarlsolifeless: u up for q ?19:03
greghaynesId be +1 on just not doing the passthrough for rootwrap and waiting for a need to pop19:03
greghayneser, to pop up19:03
lifelessgreghaynes: they probably have one, but it would be nice to see a concrete example.19:05
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ekarlsolifeless: we're using the hosts element but we're seing the cloudinit /etc/hosts and not stuff from the hosts element after a rebot ?19:08
lifelessekarlso: os-collect-config doesn't automatically run after a reboot I suspect we need to fix that19:09
lifelessekarlso: os-collect-config --force --one should fix it (and confirm the theory)19:10
ekarlsolifeless: well yeah kidna ... : P19:10
lifelessSpamapS: perhaps if we move the cache to /var/run ?19:10
ekarlsolifeless: a rmq cluster goes bork after reboot due to it :'(19:10
lifelessSpamapS: but that has its own issues :(19:10
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SpamapSlifeless: so I think we should have a flag file in /var/run19:14
ekarlsolifeless: it would be really nice to get the issue sorted ;)19:14
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SpamapSlifeless: but leave the cache in /var/lib19:14
lifelessSpamapS: ah nice idea cool19:14
lifelessekarlso: so - up for making a patch to os-collect-config?19:15
lifelessSpamapS: do we need a spec for this ?19:15
SpamapSlifeless: I want to say no, but I don't want to miss some important detail.19:15
lifelessekarlso: so, a spec please - clint and I will review it asap, and a patch to os-collect-config19:16
greghaynesfeel free to ping me for fast review too19:17
ekarlso:p19:17
ekarlsowaht should it include ?19:17
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ekarlsolifeless: another issue also :), what happens if u write new heat metadata to heat and os-collect-config runs ? will there then be duplicate entries in /etc/hosts with the current bash impl vs using markers ?19:18
lifelessekarlso: n19:20
lifelessno19:20
lifelessit will be fine19:20
Kialllifeless / greghaynes etc .. The issue ekarlso is looking into is actually more than just o-c-c not re-running after a reboot.. 1) the hosts element should work alongside cloud-init, and it should add to rather than replace the file entirely (This is opinion though - you could argue either way ;)) and 2) When the hosts metadata changes, and o-c-c re-runs, it will not remove the old content before appending the new.19:20
greghaynesthats surprising, lemme read some code19:21
lifelessKiall: 1) it does and 2) sounds like a bug19:21
Kiallhttps://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/hosts/os-refresh-config/configure.d/51-hosts19:21
Kiallshort enough, and unless I'm being daft, will use the already modified /etc/hosts as the starting point to append to when metadata changes19:22
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Drop ending slash from DIB_CLOUD_IMAGES  https://review.openstack.org/10180819:22
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ekarlsolifeless: what was it that requiers a spec ?19:23
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Kialllifeless: re 1 - We deal with appending to the cloud-init managed hostname, but we do it in a way that cloud-init will undo after a reboot.. e.g. we should append to both /etc/hosts and /etc/cloud/templates/hosts.tmpl19:24
Kiallhaving o-c-c re-run on reboot is 1 possible fix for that, but I'm betting that's going to raise a bunch of issues with the various elements running twice19:25
greghaynesKiall: is that not what that fgrep -f is for?19:25
Kiallgreghaynes: If I'm not mistaken, the fgrep -f line will exit with a 0 when 1 of the hosts entries is removed, causing the script to exit early on L1319:26
greghaynessounds plausible, bug time!19:27
Kialland - when fgrep exits with a 1, for example when an additional hosts entry is added, I believe it will append all the hosts again - leaving duplicates for all the original entries19:27
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Kiallfor me - the fix is to write out our content to both /etc/hosts and /etc/cloud/templates/hosts.tmpl, between START/END markers where we replace the entire block every time there is a change19:28
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greghaynesKiall: seems reasonable19:29
KiallThat leaves a reliable hosts element, and that should conitnue to work even if/when o-c-c is made re-run after a reboot :)19:29
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bthurbergot a little further on the overcloud deployment:  + tripleo wait_for_stack_ready 220 10 overcloud19:41
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openstackgerritPhil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix Ceilometer undercloud endpoint registration when UI not specified  https://review.openstack.org/10159619:49
lifelessKiall: seems fine to me19:51
openstackgerritPhil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix Ceilometer undercloud endpoint registration when UI not specified  https://review.openstack.org/10159619:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Add sbin to PATH when loging hostinfo  https://review.openstack.org/9964219:55
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Switch from upstart to os-refresh-config for MySQL server-id's  https://review.openstack.org/9303920:20
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-specs: Add blueprint link to haproxy_configuration.rst  https://review.openstack.org/9669320:26
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mordredwhere is the docs you guys have on how to set up a local caching env to make apt stuff less suck?20:43
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greghaynesin the apt element20:45
greghaynesmaybe its apt-sources20:45
greghaynesthat is for setting a mirror... do you mean something different?20:46
mordredgreghaynes: well, I meant setting up a mirror in the first place20:46
mordredor - rather - best bpractices from you folk who do this dib stuff all the time20:47
mordredcause my current hack cycle is slow as crap and it's driving me batty20:47
greghaynesAh, I dont think we have setup a mirror docs. A mirror is basically required in order to not hate life though20:47
mordrednod20:48
greghaynesI do apt-mirror utility + apt-sources element using config to point at it20:48
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greghaynesand pypi-mirror with wheels20:49
mordredgreghaynes: does that cause things fetched in the image to populate the cache outside of it?20:49
SpamapSsquid + using the highly cachable HTTP-based pypi.openstack.org has been enough to speed me up20:50
greghaynesno. You can squid cache and http_proxy for that style20:50
greghaynesWe also had a patch to bind mount apt cache into the chroots were building... I think that might live in t-i though20:51
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/133328521:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1333285 in tuskar "instack-deploy-overcloud-tuskarcli fails when instack-prepare-for-overcloud is not previously run" [Undecided,New]21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/133245821:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332458 in diskimage-builder "Not able to build armhf or arm64 images on amd64 arch systems." [Undecided,New]21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/133252121:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1332521 in diskimage-builder "failed to remove `/tmp/image.A2aupYJb/mnt/tmp/in_target.d': Device or resource busy" [Undecided,New]21:00
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greghayneshuh, all of a sudden my root fs on my build host is starting to fill up regularly21:12
* greghaynes wonders what we changed21:12
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openstackgerritPhil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix Ceilometer undercloud endpoint registration when UI not specified  https://review.openstack.org/10159621:28
openstackgerritPhil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Fix Ceilometer undercloud endpoint registration when UI not specified  https://review.openstack.org/10201821:29
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bnemecgreghaynes: It's probably the functionality to save old copies of images.21:43
greghaynesahoy21:43
greghaynesyes it is21:43
* bnemec wonders if there is a flag to turn that off21:44
bnemecHmm, doesn't look like it: https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/blob/master/lib/common-functions#L4621:45
greghaynesim curious what the justification for saving those was21:45
greghaynesif you want them to live on, you should probably just leave them in glance?21:46
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bnemecgreghaynes: Looks like it was just implemented to address an old TODO: https://github.com/openstack/diskimage-builder/commit/b740c50c7625162a6ba4499a7dfbc7450deac3eb21:49
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SpamapSbooo github22:05
SpamapShttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/diskimage-builder/commit/?id=b740c50c7625162a6ba4499a7dfbc7450deac3eb22:06
SpamapSloads faster and has no githubbyness22:06
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greghaynesits especially annoying since we have no cleanup routine for it22:07
bnemec#action: greghaynes to write cleanup tool for old images22:08
bnemecThanks for volunteering! ;-)22:08
greghayneswell, im wondering... maybe we need two cleanup tools. I got some pushback from cleaning up the -env.json files because people put custom things in them22:08
greghaynesand adding cleanup images to the cleanup-env means that patch is basically a pretty silly no-op22:09
greghaynesso maybe we need something to cleanup --really-do-it22:09
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bnemecgreghaynes: I would even be fine with something that's outside the regular devtest flow but that I could run when I start having too many old image files lying around22:11
bnemecAlthough something to clean up all but the last three images or something might not be out of line either.22:11
greghaynesYep22:11
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mordredgreghaynes: it sounds like you're maybe designing a tool one could call ... "make"22:35
greghaynesmake what?22:38
greghaynes:p22:38
clarkbno target 'what' found22:38
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tchaypoGOOD MORNING22:46
greghaynesOHAI22:46
tchayposo like, how do I tell gertty to resync the world?22:46
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tchaypoand how can i change its sort order? I've just realised it seems to be showing me reviews sorted by number, which is not the same as longest-since-last-comment22:47
openstackgerritBen Nemec proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: haproxy: use SSL on standard SSL ports  https://review.openstack.org/10204622:47
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tchaypoi *love* the way, every time I click on something that has no click handler, gertty fatals22:53
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clarkbtchaypo: clicking?22:57
clarkbtchaypo: also I don't think you can reorder22:57
tchaypowith a mouse22:57
clarkband gertty should sync the world always22:57
clarkbit figures out the delta and goes from there22:57
tchaypoen does it trigger a sync though?22:57
tchaypoAlthough I see that when I submitted that review it jumped to "sync: 3" so it seems like the answer is "Whenever it has an excuse", which is what I want22:58
tchaypoAttributeError: 'ChangeMessageBox' object has no attribute 'focusItemLeft'23:00
tchaypowheeee23:00
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Haproxy configuration  https://review.openstack.org/9355423:17
openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add galera clustering properties  https://review.openstack.org/8388323:17
openstackgerritRichard Su proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Move rabbitmq-server cluster port  https://review.openstack.org/9170423:17
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openstackgerritRichard Su proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Move rabbitmq-server cluster port  https://review.openstack.org/9170423:24
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lifelessgreghaynes: next review needed before we can change the default to 3 control plane ?23:30
greghayneslifeless: see the two I just pused ^?23:31
kevinbentonbnemec: ping re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100374/23:31
greghayneslifeless: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101305/23:31
lifelessgreghaynes: whats the next one that could in principle land and has been verified by CI ?23:32
lifelessgreghaynes: I can basically review one then I need to heads down and write up the support matrix spec23:33
lifelessgreghaynes: and then my ptl project update slides23:34
lifelessgreghaynes: and then I get back to CI bringup of region 123:34
greghaynes^ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98709/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61376/23:34
greghaynesthe last one23:34
greghaynes6137623:34
greghaynesactually, I should +a, it has 2x+223:34
greghaynesmulti node rmq, 9870923:35
clarkbare you guys not currently broken by nova?23:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Update openstack services to listen on stunnel connect port  https://review.openstack.org/6137623:35
lifelessgreghaynes: done23:35
greghayneswoo progress23:35
lifelessclarkb: what hath nova done?23:36
clarkbwell sqlalchemy released and broke nova's ability to do ip stuff23:36
lifelesscool23:36
clarkbso if you haven't updated to sqlalchemy 0.9.5 you should be ok23:36
clarkbor maybe with neutron you aren't affected. of that I am not sure23:36
lifelessclarkb: on all db's ?23:36
clarkbonly nova is affected23:37
clarkbso nova's db23:37
lifelessi mean23:37
lifelessmysql23:37
lifelessor postgresql23:37
clarkboh mysql23:37
clarkbnot sure about the others23:37
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clarkbbut sdague said our main full test fails23:37
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lifelessgreghaynes: hmm, I thought we were going to put rabbit through haproxy too23:44
lifelessgreghaynes: anyhow, -1 on that23:44
SpamapSlifeless: IIRC w/ rabbit kombu chooses randomly already.23:45
SpamapSCould be wrong23:45
SpamapSStill easier to use a VIP than 3 VIPs23:45
greghaynesI think it might not be a bad idea to haproxy it23:46
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greghaynesfor reasons lifeless stated in email (I think?) about how it doesnt really have split brain protection23:47
greghaynesdoesnt fix it, but might help mitigate some of the side effects23:47
greghaynesThere is no patch to do that yet though23:48
SpamapSoh, it is absolutely a ticking time bomb when split brain happens23:48
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lifelessanyhow, the issues I have with that review are fixable without changing from cluster set to single ip23:49
lifelessjust an alternate approach to fix it23:49
lifelessgreghaynes: ok one mre HA review23:50
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greghayneshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/101305/23:50
greghaynespretty simple23:50
greghaynesbut needed23:50
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lifelessoh yuck23:51
lifelesswhy do we have sysctl-set-value as a *runtime* script ?23:52
* lifeless headdesks23:52
greghaynesoh, maybe I just derpd hard23:52
lifelessgreghaynes: no, it clearly is23:52
lifelessgreghaynes: but its pointless indirection no ?23:52
greghaynesyes23:52
greghayneswell, actually - a lot of things want to set values based on o-a-c23:53
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SpamapSwellllll23:57
SpamapSsysctl values could be calculated23:57
greghaynesand actually, I hope we dont need to specify sysctl values from heat directly anywhere, that seems like exposing way to low level of plumbing23:59

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