Monday, 2014-08-11

lifelesstchaypo: I suspect ng's patches are not complete00:01
lifelesstchaypo: remember that testenv is compiled, so you should be looking at the inputs00:01
tchaypoalso hp2 lacks things like undercloud-env.json so I'm wondering if hp2 has even ever had an undercloud created..00:02
lifelessit has not00:02
lifelessit will likely need its seed redon00:02
lifelesse00:02
tchaypois there any way I can validate the nodes.json on hp2? I can see that it lists many machines and that it's different from hp1..00:03
tchaypo... of course there *is*, I could writ something that walks the list and uses the power manager to try to talk to each machine.00:04
lifelessor you could let ironic do that for you00:06
lifelessfrom the seed00:06
lifelesstchaypo: or see test_ilo_auth.sh00:06
lifelessstevebaker: so, I'm back00:07
lifelesstchaypo: can we take a step back; where are you up to with the refs reconciliation ?00:08
tchaypolifeless: "git review -r bbd46e4" on hp2 /home/shared/repo_refs will show you what I did00:09
tchaypoit seems fairly simple00:09
tchaypotest_ilo_auth.sh doesn't look at nodes.json, but i see where the data in nodes.json came from00:11
tchaypoeven though I'd looked at it and mentioned earlier that it did a lot of stuff to update the local git copies of things, I was still surprised when sourcing seed.hp2....rc did so much00:13
lifelesstchaypo: git *review* ?!00:15
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lifelesstchaypo: well, you haven't fixed up the seed.hp2 script yet have you :)00:15
lifelesstchaypo: let me refer you back to seed.hp1 for comparison00:16
lifelesstchaypo: I think worrying about the nodes list is premature until we've got the basics in place00:16
tchaypobah. I meant "git diff" not "git review"00:18
tchaypohp100:19
lifelesstchaypo: ok, so you haven't reconciled the refs yet00:19
tchaypohp1's seedrc seems to assume prep_source_repos has already been run, it just sources the .variables instead of running prep_source_repos00:20
lifelesstchaypo: per the README :)00:20
tchaypomuch less surprising00:20
tchaypoby "reconciled" do you mean copying across the refs from hp1 (which I looked at but got the impresion that there's nothing to copy over), or do you mean fixing the merge conflicts I saw in the output about tripleo-incubator?00:21
lifelesstchaypo: both00:22
lifelesstchaypo: you need to make sure that a) stale refs are removed, b) new refs needed are added, c) all refs can merge up with trunk successfully00:22
lifelessc) is last because a) and b) will fix a raft of things00:22
tchaypo"stale" meaning things that have merged already and don't need to be patched on?00:23
lifelessor aren't relevant anymore yes00:23
lifelessthings that are in hp2 and not hp1 and aren't hp2 config would be a good starting heuristic00:24
lifelessthough you may need to ask me :(00:24
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stevebakerlifeless: back00:32
lifelesshey00:32
lifelessso00:32
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Revert migration to HOT  https://review.openstack.org/11315400:35
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make turning debug on globally easy.  https://review.openstack.org/11277800:39
lifelessstevebaker: I'm putting these up to unblock me on this CI cloud00:40
lifelessstevebaker: I'm happy if we can roll forward... but also we have a policy of rolling back unless the path forward is short and trivial00:40
lifelesstchaypo: I have the hp1 lock again00:40
lifelesstchaypo: (waiting for ack)00:41
tchaypoack00:41
tchaypoi'm tweaking reporefs on hp200:41
lifelessI'm adding these reverts to hp100:41
lifelessugh, I need to update 103454 and 108208 again00:41
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Fixup network configuration for ext-net  https://review.openstack.org/10821300:45
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Permit specifying VLAN mappings to overclouds.  https://review.openstack.org/10820800:45
tchayposhould we still be including https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93844 ? maybe, in line with comments on the patch, we should take it out for now and see if we're able to build without it?00:45
lifelesstchaypo: sure00:46
lifelesstchaypo: lets do that on hp200:46
tchaypoI'll comment it out and explain why, to make it easier to reactivate if we decide we want to come back to it00:46
tchaypoincidentally00:47
tchaypothe refs for the patches are of the form NN/XXXXXX/YY00:47
tchaypoXXXXXX is the review number, YY is patchset within that review, but what's NN? looks like it might just be a random sharding factor?00:47
lifelessits the last two digits00:48
lifelessyou can see the ref on the review page00:48
lifelessthere's a bit you can copy00:48
tchaypooh duh.00:48
lifelessalso see tripleo-end-to-end README00:48
tchayposo a non-random sharding factor then?00:48
tchaypoI know it's the ref from gerrit, I was wondering what gerrit does to generate them :)00:49
lifelessthe last two digits00:49
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Expose public_interface_tag support.  https://review.openstack.org/10345400:50
* lifeless tries a reverted stack-update of a manually recovered stack. could be entertaining00:52
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tchaypoit's just occurred to me that the repo_refs on hp2 was written before we had late binding00:54
tchaypo*checks hp1* ah, even there we only seem to be using it for tht and toci00:55
tchaypois that a deliberate choice (to reduce the risk that a new patch is going to have unexpected consequences, perhaps) or just because the other refers were put in before we had late binding?00:56
lifelessthis is new00:56
lifeless[ALERT] 222/005636 (8912) : Starting proxy swift_proxy_server: cannot bind socket00:56
lifelessthe latter00:57
lifelesstchaypo: ^00:57
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tchaypowhat's it trying to bind to?00:58
tchaypoI'm going to be lazy then; I'll check that the reviews in question are still active but just set them to /001:00
lifeless(but don't change hp1 - I stil have the lock :)01:01
lifelesshah01:01
lifelessso our haproxy template is thoroughly broken right now01:01
lifelessI wonder if greghaynes / TheJulia / jprovazn have a patch up for it01:02
lifelessah no01:03
lifelessproxy_ip01:03
lifelessand ip01:03
lifelessbut I'm seeing proxy_ip as none01:03
lifelesseven though proxy_port is set01:03
lifelessdeprecated hmm01:03
lifelesswhyfor is it set in this template01:03
lifelessits not!01:04
tchaypoWHEEE01:04
lifeless       "net_binds": [01:04
lifeless         {01:04
lifeless          "ip": ""01:04
lifelessthat looks like the issue01:04
lifelessahha01:08
lifeless| ControlVirtualIP         | OS::Neutron::Port              | UPDATE_FAILED   | 2014-08-10T23:07:41Z |01:08
lifelessand thats where | resource_status_reason | StackValidationFailed: Property error : ControlVirtualIP: network_id Value must be a string                                                     |01:08
lifelesstime for more mysql01:08
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix issues with provider networks and public ips  https://review.openstack.org/10344901:33
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* tchaypo tries out new vanilla-flavoured chai twinings teabags01:40
* tchaypo has low expectations01:40
* tchaypo also fails to push a review because can't talk to gerrit01:40
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Network init order fixes for VIP  https://review.openstack.org/10586201:40
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Keepalived reload check addition  https://review.openstack.org/10714701:40
tchaypothere it goes01:40
* tchaypo adds small amounts of snark01:42
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StevenKtchaypo: ... to your tea?01:48
tchaypoto a comment on 10586201:49
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* StevenK prepares to test his third type of mirror01:55
tchaypothird type of mirror?01:56
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tchaypothere's your apt mirror, and the one in your bathroom...01:56
StevenKtchaypo: apt mirror, bandersnatch are the first two. The third is a small wget script that partially mirrors cloud-images.ubuntu.com01:57
tchaypocoud you use httrack for the latter?02:01
lifelessback02:01
StevenKtchaypo: Perhaps, but I only six files02:02
StevenKonly want02:02
lifelessstevebaker: where would the data for a neutron port be stored in the db? or is it read-from-neutron-each-time ?02:05
tchaypookay, repo_refs.yaml now has no stale reviews, all late-binding, and incorporates the changes on hp102:07
lifelesstchaypo: have you fixed up the seed rc file ?02:07
tchayposo now I think it's time for my break. Probably not back for about 2 hours, need to help andre set up a backup, have lunch, and get some exercise02:08
lifelessok02:08
lifelessI'll be about to end-for-cynthina-time02:08
tchaypowill you be back after that?02:08
lifelessso I suggest you capture today as docs somewhere for the rest of the day + look into ng's hp2 config patches02:08
lifelessand comapre and contrast them with the hp1 config patches02:08
tchaypong's hp2 config patches?02:08
lifelessexactly02:09
tchaypowhere do i find these things?02:09
lifelessthey were in repo_refs.yaml on hp202:09
tchaypoah, yep, i saw one or two there02:09
tchaypohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/109653/02:09
tchaypoi was about to say that the alternate plan would be to look for ng's outstanding patches on gerrit02:10
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stevebakerlifeless: port attributes are fetched from neutron, memoized for the duration of the stack operation02:15
lifelessstevebaker: ok, so the port is still intact, but its not being passed into the deployment correctly :(02:16
lifeless         {02:16
lifeless          "interface": "br-ex",02:16
lifeless          "ip": ""02:16
lifeless         }02:16
stevebakerwhere is that coming from?02:17
lifelessso when I look at haproxy.cfg, the first bind is empty02:20
lifelessbacktracking to the moustache template02:20
lifelessthats this02:20
lifeless  {{#net_binds}}02:20
lifeless  bind {{ip}}:{{port}}02:20
lifeless  {{/net_binds}}02:20
lifelessbacktracking from there to the heat template (using the reverted build - will paste in a second)02:20
lifeless          - name: keystone_admin02:21
lifeless            net_binds:02:21
lifeless            - ip:02:21
lifeless                Fn::Select:02:21
lifeless                - ip_address02:21
lifeless                - Fn::Select:02:21
lifeless                  - 002:21
lifeless                  - Fn::GetAtt:02:21
lifeless                    - ControlVirtualIP02:21
lifeless                    - fixed_ips02:21
lifelesswhen then I look at the metadata via os-collect-config --print02:21
lifelesswe have the empty string for the ip address02:21
lifelessthe resource exists02:22
lifelesswhen I look in neutron with port-show I can see it has02:22
lifeless| fixed_ips             | {"subnet_id": "a6ddb35e-305e-40f1-9450-7befc8e1af47", "ip_address": "10.10.16.155"} |02:22
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lifelessah, some caching effect02:34
lifelesswhen I changed a parameter to thes tack for a different thing in the same deployment, suddenly it came good02:34
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lifelessstevebaker: thanks :)02:37
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stevebakerfor waiting until you fixed the problem yourself? you're welcome02:37
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lifelessstevebaker: so, I've pushed up a revert of the HoT stuff02:39
stevebakerlifeless: I saw that02:39
lifelessstevebaker: do you have any proposed way forward (short term) other than a revert ?02:39
lifelessstevebaker: (I don't know enough about the HOT implementation to even guess...)02:40
stevebakerlifeless: so is the success criteria to get ci-overcloud to do a successful stack-update?02:41
lifelessstevebaker: thats certainly necessary02:44
lifelessstevebaker: I don't know if its sufficient02:44
lifelessstevebaker: I'd be more comfortable with e.g. a test that we can do it02:45
stevebakerlifeless: that should be possible as a heat functional test on a fake-virt nova02:46
lifelessstevebaker: and/or as a tripleo test :)02:49
lifeless(since you won't get deployment callbacks on a fake-virt system :>02:49
stevebakerlifeless: unless you're prepared to have another crack at diagnosing the HOT update again, a revert may be the only option. shadower won't be happy, he wants to crack ahead with the resource provider changes02:50
stevebakerlifeless: deployment callbacks can be faked by the test02:51
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lifelessit should be straight forward for someone to reproduce02:54
lifelessdeploy a stack,pull down the hot version, update02:54
lifelessI know, I want to get us all rolling forward too02:56
stevebakerlifeless: maybe shadower could divert onto this while we come up with a solution to deploying the group/cluster config02:59
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135126303:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1351263 in tripleo "Seed init failed, nova list returned 503" [Undecided,New]03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135450903:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1354509 in tripleo "Glance requirements.txt for osprofiler too loose" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/134784803:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1347848 in tripleo "/etc/hosts information about cloud hsots lost on reboot" [Undecided,In progress]03:00
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lifelessshadower: ^ what do you think?03:10
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make turning debug on globally easy.  https://review.openstack.org/11277803:17
lifelessstevebaker: do we have to have hot to do the resource thing?03:19
lifelessstevebaker: as in, does this have to block shadower ?03:19
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lifelesshah03:53
lifelessneutron_url=http://:969603:54
lifelessthat would be an issue03:54
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lifelessahh theCVI again03:57
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lifelessoh wow04:10
lifeless| fault                                | {"message": "No valid host was found. Exceeded max scheduling attempts 3 for instance 22ee7ec4-17d0-4ab8-bef1-95a0dffca38f. Last exception: None.", "code": 500, "details": "  File \"/opt/stack/venvs/nova/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/conductor/manager.py\", line 604, in build_instances |04:10
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lifelessin vms04:11
lifelessbooting 10 vms04:11
lifelesssadface04:11
tchaypothat looks familiar04:24
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Add support for configuring Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/10868904:59
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StevenK< HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified05:03
StevenKAhhhh05:03
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StevenKdib-run-parts Mon Aug 11 01:23:30 EDT 2014 Running /tmp/in_target.d/install.d/20-galera-libssl-symlink05:24
StevenK...05:24
StevenKUnable to find compatible libssl05:24
StevenKI think I just found ruagair's dib error05:24
greghaynesaye05:24
greghaynesthat is a pretty nasty hack05:25
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StevenKgreghaynes: How is married life treating you?05:27
greghaynesVery well :)05:27
StevenKgreghaynes: :-D05:27
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* StevenK sees if the one-character change he made to tie works05:30
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Add support for configuring Neutron  https://review.openstack.org/10868905:32
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xuhaiweitchaypo: hi, are you around?05:39
tchaypoxuhaiwei: aproximately05:42
xuhaiweitchaypo: about this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97657/, it seems we haven't got an agreement yet05:43
tchaypoah, yep.05:48
tchaypoI took a look at the rationalise-ui etherpad the other day and started trying to make a spec from it, but the etherpad was really a discussion with several people suggesting alternate planns05:48
tchaypoto properly be a spec it really needs someone to make some choices and float them for discussion05:49
tchaypoin the meantime we're left with the situation where we don't want to add any more env variables if we can help it, but don't have anything except the etherpad to explain why or point at alternatives, and the etherpad isn't very satisfactory05:49
xuhaiweitchaypo: so should we discuss this issue on the etherpad?05:55
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tchaypoI think that etherpad is part the point where it's productive - it's >6 months old at this point06:03
tchaypoI think the quickest way forward for 97657 is to switch to using a command-line flag - at least that way it should get more acceptance06:03
tchaypoIf you're not familiar with doing that, I should be able to bash out a patch this afternoon to do it06:04
tchaypoI don't think I'll have time to work on the spec this week but it's something I'd like to push next week06:04
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xuhaiweitchaypo: yes, I am not so familiar with the command-line flag, you can do it if you have time06:06
tchaypolifeless: do we want the "fresh firmware for less crashing BMCs" added into hp2's seedrc?06:08
tchaypowe don't have the ilo folder on disk.. so I'm think the answer is either "no" or "yes but we need to copy things over first"06:08
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* StevenK finally twigs that he should check where $ELEMENTS_PATH points before adding even more debugging that has no effect06:15
tchaypoStevenK: well done sir06:18
StevenKtchaypo: Do we want to grab a meeting room at SNO02 on Friday, or do you have a driving lesson?06:20
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StevenK+ systemctl enable openvswitch.service06:37
StevenKOperation failed: No such file or directory06:37
StevenK... Yeah, that was going to work on a Ubuntu machine06:38
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix mysql element on centos7  https://review.openstack.org/11317906:40
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loki184lifeless: This patch needs your +1 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110562/)  as this is new project to merge with tripleo as part of blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/build-windows-images06:50
loki184lifeless: Can you please look into this06:51
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Drop all direct usage of systemctl enable  https://review.openstack.org/11318106:59
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kviiriHm, I have a little thing I'd like to try07:24
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kviiriI'm trying to create a script that automatically creates new disk images, say, every other day07:24
kviiriHowever, I'd only want to upload them to Glance if there is some meaningful difference between the two images.07:25
kviiriIs there a way to check if there's been some change in the original cloud image (Ubuntu, Centos, whatever) either before creating a new one, or after creation so I could at least not waste a Glance upload?07:26
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kviiriThe rationale is that we have a fairly limited amount of disk space for the images. We only want to have a few new ones at a time07:36
michchapkviiri: there's a checksum when you get details for an image07:38
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kviiriI thought so. I guess that's the best way. My coworker said he wouldn't trust a checksum but I really can't see a good way to define "meaningful change" so...07:39
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openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Modify symbolic link creation.  https://review.openstack.org/11319208:04
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Sort the parameter_names in the parser tests  https://review.openstack.org/11296908:07
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openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install the "classic" icinga interface  https://review.openstack.org/8722308:11
lifelesstchaypo: lets start with no until we see what crack we have08:12
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openstackgerritNicholas Randon proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install the "classic" icinga interface  https://review.openstack.org/8722308:22
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Allow setup services endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/9238308:39
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Making setup endpoint idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11282508:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Specify the control plane network for testenvs.  https://review.openstack.org/10887608:52
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Remove unneeded CI workarounds  https://review.openstack.org/11319508:57
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:09:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135126309:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1351263 in tripleo "Seed init failed, nova list returned 503" [Undecided,New]09:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135450909:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1354509 in tripleo "Glance requirements.txt for osprofiler too loose" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/134784809:01
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1347848 in tripleo "/etc/hosts information about cloud hsots lost on reboot" [Undecided,In progress]09:01
lifelessderekh: evening :)09:05
derekhlifeless: hi ya09:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.context  https://review.openstack.org/11290409:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.fixture  https://review.openstack.org/11290509:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.log_handler  https://review.openstack.org/11290609:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.network_utils  https://review.openstack.org/11290709:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.cliutils  https://review.openstack.org/11290809:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.rpc  https://review.openstack.org/11289809:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.service  https://review.openstack.org/11289909:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.processutils  https://review.openstack.org/11290009:07
derekhlifeless: hows things?09:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.notifier  https://review.openstack.org/11285809:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.loopingcall  https://review.openstack.org/11290109:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.threadgroup  https://review.openstack.org/11290209:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.periodic_task  https://review.openstack.org/11285609:07
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.eventlet_backdoor  https://review.openstack.org/11290309:07
tchaypoStevenK: no driving less on friday.09:08
tchaypolifeless: noted09:08
tchaypoI seem to have developed some kind of ear pain. I'd like to finish working on xuhaiwei's scripts but right now I think I need to be horizontal to relieve the pain.09:09
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lifelessderekh: trials and tribulations09:12
lifelessderekh: I think our problem is the mysql connection to localhost09:12
lifelessderekh: we're colliding in the DB09:12
lifelessderekh: my next step is to look through greghaynes / TheJulia / jprovazn's patches to see if there is one to use haproxy09:13
jprovaznlifeless: there should be a patch from TheJulia09:13
derekh lifeless ok :-(09:14
jprovaznlifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105878/09:14
lifelessderekh: so we need a backport of ^ to non-HOT09:15
lifelessderekh: since it looks like we're about to have to revert the HOT stuff09:15
lifelessderekh: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135430509:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1354305 in tripleo "tripleo-heat-templates broken on even one-month old underclouds" [Critical,In progress]09:19
derekhlifeless: ok, is TheJulia looking into it (or somebody else?), or should we wait and see if the HOT stuff is reverted ?09:19
lifelessderekh: since it all came to light v recently i'm sure she isn't09:20
lifelessderekh: I think to unblock CI the thing to do is to push up a variant of her patch09:20
lifelessderekh: I can do that09:20
derekhlifeless: ok09:21
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lifelesshmm, her changes has three tie depends09:22
lifelesslooking09:22
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add pkg_map support to openvswitch elements  https://review.openstack.org/10696009:28
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Make use of openvswitch elements  https://review.openstack.org/10411509:28
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Making setup endpoint idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11282509:36
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Keepalived reload check addition  https://review.openstack.org/10714709:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Network init order fixes for VIP  https://review.openstack.org/10586209:40
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lifelessderekh: ok09:42
lifelessderekh: so we need a new overcloud control plane09:42
lifelessderekh: I'll prep this new heat templatethen add that to refs and away we go09:42
lifelessderekh: btw the repo refs stuf fhas changed cosniderable09:42
lifelessderekh: see repo_refs subdir09:42
lifelessderekh: and my trpleo-e-2-e tree09:42
derekhlifeless: ok, will do, just catching up on mail for a bit but will jump in after and see what I can do09:43
lifelessderekh: hope your holiday was good09:44
lifelessderekh: the docs on bighammer helped a lot09:44
lifelessderekh: I just had to fight about a thousand things in the middle... includinga  funeral !09:44
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derekhlifeless: yup was a relaxinf week :-) , no prob we'll get there09:46
loki184lifeless: saw your comments can i add diskimage-builder-core group for acl (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110562/8/modules/openstack_project/files/gerrit/acls/openstack/windows-diskimage-builder.config)09:46
lifelessloki184: why do you want a different core group ?09:46
loki184lifeless: i saw that group in linux disk-image-builder project config file so thought would add the same09:47
lifelessloki184: thats historical, we're not doing that anymore09:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.context  https://review.openstack.org/11290409:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.fixture  https://review.openstack.org/11290509:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.log_handler  https://review.openstack.org/11290609:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.network_utils  https://review.openstack.org/11290709:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.cliutils  https://review.openstack.org/11290809:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.rpc  https://review.openstack.org/11289809:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.service  https://review.openstack.org/11289909:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.processutils  https://review.openstack.org/11290009:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.loopingcall  https://review.openstack.org/11290109:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.threadgroup  https://review.openstack.org/11290209:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.eventlet_backdoor  https://review.openstack.org/11290309:49
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused/unfinished tuskar.manager  https://review.openstack.org/11320509:49
loki184lifeless: Let me know if specific existing group name to be added09:49
lifelessloki184: you can just use the main tripleo config file09:50
lifelessyou don't need to do use a group name at all in your patch09:50
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loki184lifeless: ok how do i refer triple config file to this project sorry i m doing this first time so wanted to know09:54
lifelessloki184: you set an acl-config: line09:56
lifelessloki184: to the path to diskimage-builder.config09:57
loki184lifeless: ok ty :)09:58
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openstackgerritAna Krivokapic proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Replace mocked Ironic data with real API calls  https://review.openstack.org/11236010:16
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Change overcloud to use VIP for MySQL  https://review.openstack.org/11321410:24
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lifelesstime to teset it...10:26
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lifelesshmm, we need to show what we're merging to let folk debug I think10:28
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pensuHi all, can you guys please share your views on this:10:31
pensuhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2014-August/008829.html10:31
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make turning debug on globally easy.  https://review.openstack.org/11277810:33
lifelesspensu: seems like a bug :)10:33
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Expose public_interface_tag support.  https://review.openstack.org/10345410:38
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Expose public_interface_tag support  https://review.openstack.org/10345410:40
pensulifeless: damn! any workarounds?10:42
lifelesspensu: dunno, sorry!10:43
lifelesspensu: shadower might have an idea10:43
pensulifeless: sure, thanks! :)10:45
pensushadower: ^^10:45
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Permit specifying VLAN mappings to overclouds.  https://review.openstack.org/10820810:49
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lifelessderekh: building new control plane image and deploying... hopefully upgrade works :P10:54
lifelessderekh: (as in, this might be entirely too entertaining)10:54
* derekh crosses his fingers anyways10:56
lifelessderekh: one thing we need to do is to get more eyeballs on our outstanding patches in repo_refs/repo_refs.yaml10:58
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derekhlifeless: yup, I also need to review a few of them myself10:58
lifelessderekh: (also see github:rbtcollins/tripleo-end-to-end - I polished up the tooling some)10:59
derekhlifeless: ok11:00
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openstackgerritMatthew Gilliard proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add first draft of HACKING.rst  https://review.openstack.org/11056511:14
openstackgerritMatthew Gilliard proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add first draft of HACKING.rst  https://review.openstack.org/11056511:16
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lifelessfingers crossed11:20
lifeless| 45645664-bb89-426c-90a5-fc4ca59d6601 | ci-overcloud-controller0-ydt5on7wojsb   | REBUILD | rebuild_spawning | Running     | ctlplane=10.10.16.151 |11:20
lifelessif this goes south its a redeploy11:21
lifelesscause fragile11:21
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loki184lifeless: can you please review the patch once again https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110562/11:27
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Making setup endpoint idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11282511:39
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* pblaho knows what is doing11:48
lifelessderekh: sadface, one of the control plane machines is a 1.07 firmware bmc (flaky, and the firmware element doesn't do 32-bit yet so we can't auto-upgrade it)11:49
jistrpblaho: good for you :D11:49
pblahobad channel.... I do not know what I am doing11:49
derekhlifeless: bugger11:50
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lifelessderekh: the other two are up11:52
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ci-overcloud************** ci-overcloud complete status=1 ************11:52
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derekhlifeless: so it can be tested ?11:52
lifelessderekh: maybe, since it was a rebuild, controller0 is teh failed one :/11:52
lifelesslet me poke11:52
lifelessctlplane seems down externally11:53
lifelessrabbitmq-server failing to stop :(11:54
lifelessTheJulia: / greghaynes: / jprovazn: how does one tell galera after a full stop, that you're starting it ?11:58
jprovaznlifeless: full stop is not supported in orc scripts, you can do it manually by starting first node manually - if you use percona, then it should be something like "/etc/init.d/mysqld bootstrap"12:00
gfidentels -la12:00
gfidentesorry12:00
lifelessjprovazn: thanks12:01
jprovaznlifeless: first node should be the node with highest squence number12:01
lifelessjprovazn: I gambled ;P12:01
lifelesswill our rabbit config handle one node being awol?12:02
jprovaznlifeless: yes, supposing you have at least 3 nodes12:03
* TheJulia awakes12:04
jprovaznlifeless: BUT there is a nice issue I'm playing with right now - https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/856764/12:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 856764 in oslo.messaging "RabbitMQ connections lack heartbeat or TCP keepalives" [Critical,In progress]12:04
lifelessjprovazn: 'yay'12:04
lifelessjprovazn: I thought the HP rabbit folk had patches up for that12:04
lifelessjprovazn: so rabbit is not starting after a full reboot of the cluster12:05
jprovaznlifeless: manual restart?12:05
jprovaznof from orc?12:05
lifelessjprovazn: stack-update with new image id12:05
lifelessjprovazn: and one control node didn't come back12:06
jprovaznlifeless: so rabbitmq is not running anywhere and you try "rabbitmq-server restart" on one of nodes?12:08
lifeless yes, orc did on boot12:08
lifelessits sort-off running12:08
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lifelessbut rabbitmq-server start hung12:08
jprovaznon one of nodes only?12:08
lifelessboth12:08
lifelessI think its this12:09
lifelessrabbitmqctl wait /var/run/rabbitmq/pid12:09
lifelesshanging12:09
lifelesswhich according to the docs indicates it hasn't started up12:10
lifelessnot being helped by orc running in a loop either I suspect12:11
lifelesslet me stop the orcs12:11
jprovaznlifeless: ideally, rabbitmq should start on bootstrap node, then the second node should try join to it12:12
lifelessjprovazn: bootstrap node is the one that died12:12
lifelessjprovazn: is there something special about the rabbit config there?12:12
lifelesshmm, I think it might be upstart timing out and kicking it12:13
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Allow setup services endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/9238312:13
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Making setup endpoint idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11282512:13
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Do not run pki init as default  https://review.openstack.org/11324012:13
lifelessor perhaps beam12:13
jprovaznconfig should be same on both, if you start the service, it should run in a standalone mode, orc script start bootstrap node in this way, then it runs "rabbitmqctl join-to-cluster-command" on other nodes12:15
lifelessso there was a cluster before I upgraded12:15
lifelessit reckons it can see the two nodes12:16
lifeless {running_nodes,['rabbit@ci-overcloud-controller2-op4qahz2t4u7',12:16
lifeless                 'rabbit@ci-overcloud-controller1-ilf57txwixcg']},12:16
lifelessI'll try using12:16
lifelessforget_cluster_node12:16
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lifelessjprovazn: hah, permission error :/12:19
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jprovaznlifeless: ouch, which file?12:19
lifelessrabbitmqctl -n rabbit@ci-overcloud-controller1-ilf57txwixcg forget_cluster_node rabbit@ci-overcloud-controller0-ydt5on7wojsb12:19
lifelessError: {failed_to_remove_node,'rabbit@ci-overcloud-controller0-ydt5on7wojsb',12:19
lifeless                              {no_exists,rabbit_user_permission}}12:19
lifelessrabbitmqctl list_users12:19
lifelessListing users ...12:19
lifelessError: {aborted,{no_exists,[rabbit_user,{internal_user,'_','_','_'}]}}12:19
lifelessahahahahahaha12:20
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jprovaznnot nice12:20
openstackgerritMatthew Gilliard proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add first draft of HACKING.rst  https://review.openstack.org/11056512:20
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lifelessderekh: I need to halt; I will implement blacklisting of scale-nodes in merge.py tomorrow12:21
lifelessderekh: which will let us do a stack-update to drop the dead node, giving us a bootstrap node id from one of the two that are up12:22
lifelessderekh: and from there we can zap the mnesia db and restart rabbit from scratch without to much headache I think12:22
lifelessderekh: but its 0022 right now, so I'm out - if you want to pick that up feel free, but its probably easiest to let me since i have the thing in my head already12:23
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add new multipath element  https://review.openstack.org/11036312:23
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lifelessTheJulia: you probably want to look at Ia9d6ed2771f756d2a97ae5df7ed737a062a59cf312:26
lifelessTheJulia: just as a FYI12:26
lifelessnight all12:26
TheJuliajust spotted it, goodnight12:28
* TheJulia puts on her glasses and gets more coffee for clearly there is a bit of a chat history to read...12:29
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openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow to specify an empty package list in pkg_map  https://review.openstack.org/11324612:37
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gfidenteso to me, when building the seed from master, I get the following error:12:56
gfidenteSSH connection cannot be established: Failed to establish SSH connection to host 192.168.122.1.12:56
lxslidprince: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86315/14/elements/logstash/install.d/90-logstash12:56
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gfidentethe ssh key for the ironic node seems to be correctly provisioned in the seed though12:57
lxslidprince: the package name doesn't vary, so why should I use pkg-map please?12:57
gfidenteyet setup-baremetal fails, anyone has seen this before?12:57
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Tuskar command to import a set of templates  https://review.openstack.org/11324812:58
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dprincelxsli: you don't have to, yet. I think it sets a good precedent though.13:01
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dprincelxsli: You can skip it for now.13:01
lxslidprince: OK thanks. I'd be very happy to if the name varied but it seems unnecessary when it doesn't, I'd call that a bad precedent13:02
dprincelxsli: fair enough. I suppose my goal is to just use it everywhere. Right now with the mixed bag approach I find it confuses people. But that is my take...13:04
dprincelxsli: as someone who calls out people alot for still hard coding the Debian names :)13:05
lxslilikewise just my opinion :)   it's clear enough imho, the package name is the same unless you have this thing that says it isn't13:05
lxslithanks for adding this btw, it's so much better than the old way13:05
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding configuration options for stunnel.  https://review.openstack.org/11287013:12
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/os-apply-config: Support control files  https://review.openstack.org/8203813:25
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.context  https://review.openstack.org/11290413:39
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.fixture  https://review.openstack.org/11290513:39
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.log_handler  https://review.openstack.org/11290613:40
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.network_utils  https://review.openstack.org/11290713:40
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.cliutils  https://review.openstack.org/11290813:40
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Removed extraneous flavor table columns  https://review.openstack.org/11301213:40
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Fix Register Nodes button styling and add icon to it  https://review.openstack.org/11288113:42
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openstackgerritJay Dobies proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Adds logic layer for handling roles  https://review.openstack.org/11327113:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Sort the deployment plan dump to ensure tests pass  https://review.openstack.org/11291814:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: When deleting a plan, delete the related files  https://review.openstack.org/11282214:09
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix l3.filters and dhcp.filters file for tripleo installations  https://review.openstack.org/9788714:20
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fix the only_latest flag in the store list methods  https://review.openstack.org/11327814:35
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derekhrwsu: there is where we pull fills out of the tarball http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/tree/toci_devtest.sh#n93  you can test of the existance of a audit log and if exists pull it out14:43
rwsucool, exactly what I was looking for14:45
rwsuderekh: thank you14:46
derekhrwsu: no prob14:46
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.context  https://review.openstack.org/11290414:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.fixture  https://review.openstack.org/11290514:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.log_handler  https://review.openstack.org/11290614:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.network_utils  https://review.openstack.org/11290714:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.cliutils  https://review.openstack.org/11290814:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fixed issue in remove_resource_alias_namespace  https://review.openstack.org/11292414:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused/unfinished tuskar.manager  https://review.openstack.org/11320514:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.rpc  https://review.openstack.org/11289814:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.service  https://review.openstack.org/11289914:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Adds logic layer for handling plans  https://review.openstack.org/11299714:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.processutils  https://review.openstack.org/11290014:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.notifier  https://review.openstack.org/11285814:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.loopingcall  https://review.openstack.org/11290114:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.threadgroup  https://review.openstack.org/11290214:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.periodic_task  https://review.openstack.org/11285614:50
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Remove unused openstack.common.eventlet_backdoor  https://review.openstack.org/11290314:50
openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Don't allow name conflicts in environment parameters  https://review.openstack.org/11328214:53
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Sort the parameter_names in the parser tests  https://review.openstack.org/11296914:59
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:15:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135126315:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135450915:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1351263 in tripleo "Seed init failed, nova list returned 503" [Undecided,New]15:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/134784815:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1354509 in tripleo "Glance requirements.txt for osprofiler too loose" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:01
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1347848 in tripleo "/etc/hosts information about cloud hsots lost on reboot" [Undecided,In progress]15:01
openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Don't allow name conflicts in environment parameters  https://review.openstack.org/11328215:05
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openstackgerritHaneef Ali proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Configures keystone with apache  https://review.openstack.org/10230415:44
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding configuration options for stunnel.  https://review.openstack.org/11287015:54
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding configuration options for stunnel.  https://review.openstack.org/11287016:01
openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Move Cinder NFS backend config bits in cinder-volume-nfs element  https://review.openstack.org/11330016:08
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openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Move Cinder NFS backend config bits in cinder-volume-nfs element  https://review.openstack.org/11330016:10
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openstackgerritFabio Giannetti proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Ceilometer Service Update/Upgrade in TripleO  https://review.openstack.org/9450016:13
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openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Move Cinder NFS backend driver config in cinder-volume-nfs element  https://review.openstack.org/11330016:19
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Remove Python 2.4 compatability for all()  https://review.openstack.org/11330816:24
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Adding default stunnel configuration options.  https://review.openstack.org/11331316:38
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Tidy base image by removing /var/log files  https://review.openstack.org/9283917:59
gfidenteso there both passed CI now, both had +2 but had to be rebased after migration to HOT: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105878/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108647/18:01
gfidente*these18:01
gfidentehugs to whoever leaves some +2 / +A again :)18:01
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openstackgerritJonathan Brownell proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: ssl-ca: Allow CA certificate to be specified  https://review.openstack.org/11007218:29
lifelesso/18:37
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lifelesscan I get a second +2/+A on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99604/14 ?18:45
lifelessshadower: ping?18:46
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Set the MAC address for ensure-bridge bridges  https://review.openstack.org/9960419:00
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lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/113154/ needs eyeballs and discussion. I've just mailed the list about it19:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Add plan associations with image and flavor  https://review.openstack.org/11269619:20
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openstackgerritClint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add nova metadata for server_role  https://review.openstack.org/11335819:43
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mordredlook, it's a lifeless!20:01
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openstackgerritYaling Fan proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Adding iptable rules for swift-* DIB elements  https://review.openstack.org/11140920:29
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openstackgerritRichard Su proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: WIP: Extract audit.log from archive  https://review.openstack.org/11337020:56
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135126321:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/134784821:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1351263 in tripleo "Seed init failed, nova list returned 503" [Undecided,New]21:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1347848 in tripleo "/etc/hosts information about cloud hsots lost on reboot" [Undecided,In progress]21:00
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Revert "Revert "Adding haproxy reload check""  https://review.openstack.org/11236721:02
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add workaround for reloading haproxy on Fedora  https://review.openstack.org/11236621:02
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lifelessmordred: zomg22:39
mordredlifeless: inorite?22:41
lifelessmordred: have you looked at the pbr thing for me ?22:42
mordredlifeless: oh. right. I was going to log in to a box and run by hand wasn't i?22:43
lifelessmordred: and review the code22:43
lifelessmordred: yes22:43
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tchaypolifeless: so the good news is that I'm alive; the bad news is that the painkillers they gave me last night are wearing off and I need to get to a chemist to pick up some more22:55
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lifelesstchaypo: whats wrong?23:18
gfidentetchaypo, yeah was going to ask about the same, painkillers for what pain?23:18
gfidentelifeless, actually, what time is it there for you now? we don't cross much23:19
lifelessgfidente: 111923:19
tchaypoacute otitis media, aka middle ear infection23:20
TheJuliaouch23:20
gfidenteyeah23:20
TheJuliafeel better23:20
tchaypoIs this something you've both experienced?23:22
TheJuliamany years ago23:23
gfidentefor me too it was many years ago23:24
tchaypothis is my first time, i23:25
lifelesspro tip, don't stab a pen in your ear - it won't fix it.23:25
tchaypoi've been surprised by how many people around me know what it23:25
tchaypos like23:25
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gfidenteI think I got it due to some water which stayed there for days23:25
tchaypoI don't know how i got through this far without having it before, it seems so common23:25
tchaypolifeless: thanks for that wisdom :p23:26
lifelesstchaypo: thats why they pay me at all :P23:26
lifelessrighto so23:27
gfidenteomore23:27
lifeless1) merge.py blacklisting support23:27
lifeless2) recover hp123:27
lifeless3) re-port everything to HOT and test that23:27
lifeless4) PROFIT23:28
gfidenteI like this last one step23:29
tchaypoReport?23:35
tchaypoBy which I mean - what happened to the first port?23:35
tchaypoI'm not confused by the similar spelling of report and re-port23:35
lifelessyesterday I migrated all our outstanding stuff off of hot because stevebaker thought the non-hot -> hot update was the cause of the fault23:39
lifelessbut in actual fact it was https://review.openstack.org/11293623:41
tchaypoLittle danger of pens in my ear. Just looking at other people with earphones in makes me wince23:50

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