Monday, 2014-08-18

lifelesstchaypo: I just checked the mail we were sent00:00
tchaypoI'll update the spreadsheet00:01
tchaypowas i on that email?00:01
lifelessno00:03
lifelessit was from the netops team directly to me00:03
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add hp2 region.  https://review.openstack.org/10965300:03
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Expose public_interface_tag support.  https://review.openstack.org/10345400:06
tchaypowoo, prep_source_repos clean status achieved!00:07
tchayponow to build...00:08
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tchaypobut that failed, because i hadn't rebuilt testenv.json. so I hand-tweaked testenv.json and now I'm trying agian01:04
lifelesstchaypo: erm01:05
lifelesstchaypo: bad idea01:05
lifelesstchaypo: rebuilding testenv.json is part of stock ops, so if you depend on hand tweaks they'll get lost01:05
* tchaypo plays the little-bit-pregnant card01:06
tchaypobut it was just a tiny little change, practically not hand-editing at all01:06
lifelessIf I regenerate testenv.json, will it break things01:06
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tchaypoI could say "i don't think so", or i could say "definitely not, because i saw reason and re-ran devtest_testenv to make sure"01:08
tchaypoI'm going with the latter. it took me longer to dig up the whole commandline to use than it took to actually run the script01:08
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openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-specs: TripleO and backwards compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/10208101:31
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix issues with provider networks and public ips  https://review.openstack.org/10344901:35
lifelessSpamapS: are you around? I could do with a +2  on 10344901:35
lifelessgreghaynes: if you're about too... it was green CI until I pushed up a trivial rebase (tabs in README)01:35
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* greghaynes looks01:37
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tchaypoand that looks suspiciously like a working undercloud02:51
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135663703:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1356637 in tripleo "os-refresh-config fails in hosts element when update is different" [Undecided,New]03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135589803:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1355898 in tripleo "mariadb doesn't start after an upgrade" [Undecided,New]03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135734603:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/135752503:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357346 in tripleo "undercloud failing to come up on devtest due to pacemaker in os-refresh-config" [Undecided,New]03:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357525 in tuskar "tuskar-api fails with "no such option: config_file"" [Undecided,New]03:00
tchaypolifeless: my notes tell me that I need to check that the bm-networks were correct and that the nodes were corret, but I'm not sure what I should be checking agsinst03:05
lifelesstchaypo: reality03:06
tchaypooh03:07
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tchaypoironic node-list gives me a nice list of nodes03:09
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tchaypoironic node-validate (on the two I picked at random) gives True for management and power, but False for console and deploy03:10
tchaypo(running on the undercloud)03:10
tchaypocomparing against nodes in HP1, they have True for deploy but None for management03:12
tchayposo I'm assuming I'll see a change once I deploy the overcloud03:12
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lifelessvalidating deploy info is something only the nova driver needs to do03:17
tchaypohrm. ip netns shows nothing, on this undercloud.03:18
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tchaypoI'm trying to think if I expect the undercloud to have a netns set up already or if I expect that to happen as I'm deploying the overlcoud03:19
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lifelesstchaypo: why would it have a netns setup ?03:19
tchaypoI *think* it would be the latter03:19
tchaypoI don't think it would; I think that at this point it's just another instance that's been spun up in the seed cloud03:20
tchaypono reason for it to have a netns until it has neutron installed on it, which will happen when we set up the overcloud03:20
lifelesstchaypo: I understand all the words you used, but not how they are combined03:20
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lifelesstchaypo: I fear your model of what an undercloud is and the relationships between clouds is confused; I suspect that means our docs are confusing.03:21
tchaypoI think the confusion is that I've never thought deeply about the order in which we do things03:22
lifelesstchaypo: 'until it has neutron installed on it' <- that made no sense to me03:22
tchaypoI've now flopped back the other way and I'm thinking that at the very least all the things we need to build the overcloud (such as neutron) would have to be installed when we build the image and configured by o-r-c after the first boot03:23
tchaypoyes, "until it has neutron installed on it" is what made me think "no wait, that happens when the image is built"03:23
* tchaypo has decided to UTSL instead of guessing03:23
lazy_princeHi All, Can you gyus review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101577/. It is in the review system for long.03:24
tchaypoI think I'm confusing "has neutron up and running" with "has created a qdhcp-blah namespace"03:25
tchayponeutron is actually running; "neutron net-show ctlplane" tells me about the ctlplane03:25
tchaypolifeless: i see you've given a +2 to lazy_prince 's change ^^^, which surprises me because it introduces new env vars03:26
tchaypoI would have expected a comment saying that we should read those values from the local config json rather than the environment?03:27
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lazy_princetchaypo03:27
lazy_princeis this local config jason something new introduced in DIB..?03:28
tchaypolazy_prince: I may be confusing parts of the stack once again :)03:28
tchaypolet me dig up docs/reviews/mailing list threads03:28
lazy_princesorry.. i was sick from last couple of weeks and so could not follow the IRC..03:29
lifelesstchaypo: where there is /a/ way to do better i do indeed say that03:29
lifelesstchaypo: where there isn't (and this is hidden layers down) I die a little inside03:29
lazy_prince:)03:29
StevenKWhee03:30
StevenKsteven@undermined:~/openstack/openstack/os-collect-config% git di | diffstat -s03:30
StevenK 16 files changed, 759 insertions(+), 283 deletions(-)03:30
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lazy_princeWhile you are doing reviews, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105356/. This is a very simple change and is there for a long time in review system.03:42
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lazy_princeand review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103483/ too.03:44
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StevenKBah, last two failures are a bug in fixtures03:51
StevenKPython 3.3 subprocess uses with Popen, and fixtures.FakePopen doesn't provide an __exit__()03:52
* tchaypo kicks off a different build elsehwere to compare against03:53
lifelessStevenK: throw me a patch03:59
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lifelessoops04:01
lifelessI'm yak shaving again04:01
StevenKlifeless: I'm writing one04:03
StevenKSince porting os-collect-config has resulted in a few other yaks, what's one more04:04
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StevenKI don't get it, since Fixture provides an __exit__() already ...04:17
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StevenKlifeless: This is making me very sad. How are you supposed to use a fixture itself in a with? :-(04:38
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pensuHi all, can you please share your views on this: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/45034/tripleo-error-node-not-found/06:15
StevenKlifeless: https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/python-fixtures/fakeopen-with/+merge/23114906:17
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Sync log from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/11489406:23
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Make use of openvswitch elements  https://review.openstack.org/10411506:28
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow to specify an empty package list in pkg_map  https://review.openstack.org/11324606:28
openstackgerritGhe Rivero proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Make use of openvswitch elements  https://review.openstack.org/10411506:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/os-collect-config: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10659006:42
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tchaypolifeless: so the (single node) undercloud is up; it has a br-int and a br-ctlplane and an int_public with the IPs i expect.07:13
tchaypoI can ping the ipmi interfaces of the nodes. I can route into the public IP from the internet.07:14
tchaypoI can't think of anything else to check before moving on with the overcloud, but I feel like I'm missing something07:14
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jprovaznlifeless: Hi, are you around?07:40
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StevenKmarios: But that's what I meant by drive-by -- only removing it from files that I touched, whereas os-svc-enable did not require any changes.08:08
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mariosStevenK: i understand - as in my comment, it just felt 'right' that you'd perhaps nuke the 2 instances of that in os-svc-enable, since this change was about using that instead of systemctl directly08:12
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mariosStevenK: but I only +1, didn't -1 it08:13
marios'files that i touched'  - I thought perhaps the driveby was a bit wider than that, like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113181/2/elements/network-utils/install.d/70-network-utils08:14
mariosStevenK: i.e. your 'only files that i touched' makes sense but I didn't pick up on that08:15
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:09:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135663709:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1356637 in tripleo "os-refresh-config fails in hosts element when update is different" [Undecided,New]09:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135589809:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1355898 in tripleo "mariadb doesn't start after an upgrade" [Undecided,New]09:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135734609:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/135752509:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357346 in tripleo "undercloud failing to come up on devtest due to pacemaker in os-refresh-config" [Undecided,New]09:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357525 in tuskar "tuskar-api fails with "no such option: config_file"" [Undecided,New]09:01
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gfidenteguys, if there is anyone around interested in scaling the block storage nodes as we do with computes, this is last bit we miss in devtest: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111136/09:08
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derekhgreghaynes: the HA job is failing (I think this will fix it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114918/1)09:34
derekhthis merged on friday which started us using /opt/git https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89974/09:35
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fix config loading when running the Tuskar API.  https://review.openstack.org/11492009:41
openstackgerritMatthew Gilliard proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add first draft of HACKING.rst  https://review.openstack.org/11056509:42
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fix config loading when running the Tuskar API  https://review.openstack.org/11492009:42
d0ugalAnyone got suggestions for testing the entry points for Tuskar? I'd love to add a test to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114920/ so it doesn't happen again.09:43
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fix config loading when running the Tuskar API  https://review.openstack.org/11492009:55
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jang2Oh, I missed it last week, but eventlet 0.15.1 was released which should make the ironic/paramiko stuff more stable.10:06
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fix config loading when running the Tuskar API  https://review.openstack.org/11492010:24
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fix config loading when running the Tuskar API  https://review.openstack.org/11492010:28
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Extract stunnel from openstack-ssl  https://review.openstack.org/11235410:33
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Fix config loading when running the Tuskar API  https://review.openstack.org/11492010:43
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Make create tenant idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11385210:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Allow setup services endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/11388210:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Make create keystone endpoint idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11388310:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Make create roles idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11383910:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Make setup endpoint idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11282510:56
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Run pki init conditionally  https://review.openstack.org/11324011:03
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openstackgerritAlexis Lee proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Install static element files with oac  https://review.openstack.org/11036611:04
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Make create keystone endpoint idempotent  https://review.openstack.org/11388311:07
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gfidentederekh, I don't think we ever discussed the possibility to have blockstoragescale and swiftstoragescale jobs in CI11:24
derekhgfidente: should the HA job expanded to include them? or are you thinking a seperate job?11:26
gfidentederekh, I'm not sure really, both seem to me more a case to test if we can deploy these services on external nodes and pass CI11:27
gfidenteI'd love to have them to test the work in regard to scaling these nodes11:28
gfidenteseems a topic for the meeting?11:28
gfidenteI have the feeling we should make both cinder and swift optional in the controller images as they would be, in real world, most probably deployed on dedicated nodes11:30
derekhgfidente: yup, we can discuss in the meeting, in the mean time I've been meaning to send a mail about the jobs we discussed at the sprint, we can expand on it there11:32
gfidentederekh, sure that would be nice, thanks! ;)11:32
kviiriDoes anyone know what happened to the CentOS 6.5 cloud images that used the be available at http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/guest-images/ ?11:38
kviiriIt's still linked from http://openstack.redhat.com/Image_resources11:39
kviiriAnd their sudden disappearance has left us wondering... we'd still need those images11:39
kviiriOur custom CentOS 6.5 element downloaded the base image from there11:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Performance optimization for find_parameter_by_name  https://review.openstack.org/11451911:49
derekhkviiri: as far as I know, this was an unofficial image(and out of date) and centos are now working on an official image11:50
kviiriderekh: Any idea when the official image will be out?11:51
derekhkviiri: I'm not sure where to go for the official image though, maybe there is one up somewhere11:51
kviiriderekh: We found a CentOS image repo, only had images for CentOS 7 though11:51
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derekhkviiri: I can't seem to find one either, the CentOS-devel mailing list has some talk about a new centos 7 image but I don't see any mention of 6.512:03
kviiriderekh: Thanks for your time. This was an unfortunate snag in our plans, the disappearance of the images :/12:05
lxsli+2/+A anyone? tiny fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114538/12:05
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Depend on use-ephemeral  https://review.openstack.org/11453812:08
openstackgerritGonéri Le Bouder proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: fix: test_os_svc_daemon.py  https://review.openstack.org/11494812:09
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openstackgerritGonéri Le Bouder proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: [PATCH] PEP8 on the doc and elements files  https://review.openstack.org/10631912:11
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openstackgerritGonéri Le Bouder proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: PEP8 on the doc and elements files  https://review.openstack.org/10631912:13
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: map-services: add openstack-nova-novncproxy  https://review.openstack.org/11494912:15
Goneriwhy tox is not called on tripleo-image-elements?12:19
lxslithanks Derek!12:24
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openstackgerritKiall Mac Innes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Improve percona cluster initialization  https://review.openstack.org/9303212:33
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lxsliTheJulia: re: https://review.openstack.org/86316, have you read the readme in PS1 and my comments to Ben?12:49
lxslialso beekneemech have you had a chance to revisit please?12:50
lxslino human intervention is required, you simply need to leverage the dpkg + apt-sources elements in your script12:51
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Fix config loading when running the Tuskar API  https://review.openstack.org/11492012:51
TheJuliaYes, any reason why you didn't integrate that into the element?12:52
lxsliYou mean configure the dpkg + apt-sources elements from my elasticsearch element? Risks overriding user preference12:53
lxsliEG the internet might not be available so they might want to use a private mirror containing the pkgs12:53
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TheJulialxsli: the question that comes to mind is that the majority or minority.  Besides there are a number of elements that require internet access (or at least the appearance of) for the element to be built.12:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Rename NovaCompute resources suffix to be consistent with controller  https://review.openstack.org/11099713:09
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar-ui: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11433413:10
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TheJulia /win 713:14
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lxsliTheJulia: I don't want to make the minority case impossible just to make the majority case slightly easier13:20
lxslinot least because I'm in that minority :)13:21
StevenKlxsli: The percona element downloads a tarball from the internet, perhaps use it as a template? Majority can just use the element, and the minority override the URL or so13:21
lxsliStevenK: thanks for the idea. It seems a shame to revert to tarballs when we have existing machinery available to add the repo and key13:22
lxslisomeone anticipated my exact scenario and merged code to allow for it13:23
lxsliWhen I say "a shame", I mean I'd have to replicate a lot of fnality packaging systems provide in order to provide quality parity13:25
lxsliEG signature checking and dependency management13:25
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openstackgerritRyan Moore proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Set vnc to use controller virtual_ip  https://review.openstack.org/10156313:45
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gfidenteping devananda14:43
gfidentecan you add me to the tripleo team in launchpad please?14:43
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Ensure glance.host and glance.cinder are set for BlockStorage nodes  https://review.openstack.org/11207414:54
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:15:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135663715:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1356637 in tripleo "os-refresh-config fails in hosts element when update is different" [Undecided,New]15:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135589815:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1355898 in tripleo "mariadb doesn't start after an upgrade" [Undecided,New]15:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135734615:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357346 in tripleo "undercloud failing to come up on devtest due to pacemaker in os-refresh-config" [Undecided,New]15:00
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds empty client for version 2 of Tuskar API  https://review.openstack.org/11174615:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Introduce support for BLOCKSTORAGESCALE  https://review.openstack.org/11113615:07
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed a change to openstack/tuskar: Migrate from common code to oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/10454815:55
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds empty PlanManager to v2 client  https://review.openstack.org/11174716:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds binding for GET /v2/plans/:plan_uuid endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/11286216:10
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds binding for GET /v2/plans endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/11286316:11
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds binding for POST /v2/plans endpoint  https://review.openstack.org/11286416:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Implements _patch() method for Manager class  https://review.openstack.org/11286516:14
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds binding for PATCH /v2/plans/:plan_uuid  https://review.openstack.org/11286616:14
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds binding for DELETE /v2/plans/:plan_uuid  https://review.openstack.org/11286716:15
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pblahodoes anyone have idea what bug number should I use for recheck on "curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'cloud-images.ubuntu.com'"?16:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds empty RoleManager to v2 client  https://review.openstack.org/11423516:16
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds binding for POST /v2/plans/:plan_uuid/roles  https://review.openstack.org/11423616:17
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds binding DELETE /v2/plans/:plan/roles/:role  https://review.openstack.org/11423716:17
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-tuskarclient: Adds binding for GET /v2/roles  https://review.openstack.org/11423816:17
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openstackgerritMichael Kerrin proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Revert "Pull in patched eventlet to fix Second Simultaneous errors"  https://review.openstack.org/11501616:23
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derekhpblaho: I can't see one, so maybe create a bug for temp network glitches and use that16:24
pblahoderekh: ok... I will look how to properly do that...16:27
pblahoderekh: thanks16:27
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Run dbsync commands with service user  https://review.openstack.org/11501816:30
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Use neutron-rootwrap from /usr/bin  https://review.openstack.org/11501916:30
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Link to ml2_conf.ini  https://review.openstack.org/11502016:30
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Only fixup horizon if installed from source  https://review.openstack.org/11502116:30
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derekhhmm, our overcloud is consistently taking over 30 minutes to come up in CI http://logs.openstack.org/49/114949/1/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-novabm-overcloud-f20-nonha/7585b32/console.html#_2014-08-18_13_16_19_35416:40
derekhmaybe a success after fail and timeout ?16:41
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greghaynesSpamapS: Did you have any luck with your network and load issues by using the backported kernel?16:55
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greghaynesDid we codify anything about our logging discussion at sprint antwhere?17:33
greghaynesthe elasticsearch and logstash patches are making me want to check what we decided on that...17:34
greghaynesWe kind of derailed into debug vs warning loglevel defaults, but I think I remember some talk about whether we want to logstash out of the box?17:34
slaglei don't recall it being decided17:44
greghaynes:/17:44
pblahoRH TripleO CI guys... pls, can you investigate https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/135841117:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1358411 in openstack-ci "dns failures in red hat cloud causes build failures" [Undecided,New]17:45
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jprovazn_afklifeless, Hi, any chance you are around?18:04
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Parameterize network type and tunnel types  https://review.openstack.org/11186818:07
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pblahoslagle: if you have to investigate more https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/135841118:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1358411 in openstack-ci "dns failures in red hat cloud causes build failures" [Medium,Triaged]18:12
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openstackgerritJonathan Brownell proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Increase source-repositories support for tarballs  https://review.openstack.org/10469418:24
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Parameterize network type and tunnel types  https://review.openstack.org/11186818:24
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SpamapSgreghaynes: no, the -34 kernel seemed to solve it.18:46
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greghayneswonderful19:04
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add /usr/local/bin to cinders rootwrap.conf  https://review.openstack.org/10656219:07
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make BlockStorage deployment dependent on controller0AllNodes  https://review.openstack.org/11207319:10
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lifelessjprovazn: hi19:18
lifelessgreghaynes: what I recall is:19:18
lifeless - log shipping by default didn't raise flags for RH19:18
lifeless - integrating a log analyser/console *by default* did19:19
lifelesstchaypo: sounds good19:19
jprovaznlifeless, have a question about fixing this revert https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114019/19:23
lifelessjprovazn: shoot19:24
jprovaznlifeless, this bullet in commit:  - upgrading the images on a cloud with old heat templates will19:24
jprovazn   fail (needed to permit upgrading heat to transition to HOT)19:24
jprovaznso the issue is related to switching to HOT templates which was happening at the same time?19:25
jprovaznlifeless, or to the fact that pacmaker/corosync is involved now and this requires new metadata in heat template?19:25
lifelessjprovazn: ok so background19:26
lifelessthe HOT change19:26
lifelessreleased heats cannot stack-update from non-HOT to HOT (or even HOT v1 -> HOT v2)19:27
lifelessfairly fundamental bug19:27
jprovaznI see19:27
lifelessso to be able to upgrade we have to now upgrade the software, then upgrade the template19:28
lifelessfor deploy cloud -> workloadcloud thats easy, they are separate19:28
lifeless but for deploy cloud itself, since we're targeting a loop there, we need to be able to do deploy software upgrade, *then* deploy template upgrade19:28
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lifelessso thats background19:29
lifelessthen yes, the specific issue with 114019 was that it would prevent that, because a new image would break with the old template19:29
jprovaznlifeless, I think the issue when using old templates are missing metadata for corosync -https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/corosync/os-apply-config/etc/corosync/corosync.conf#L1519:35
jprovaznlifeless, I don't think there is a simple way how to provide "defaults" e.g. for corosync.nodes19:36
jprovaznlifeless,  I guess you don't include ceilometer central agent in your existing cloud, do you? because central agent now depends on pacemaker too and it is not reverted19:37
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jprovaznlifeless, my problem is that I don't think I could make corosync/pacemaker elements usable with some defaults: If I should use some defaults instead e.g. of corosync.nodes metadata what should I use? Any workaround will be very dirty and will cause mess19:40
openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Passthrough and allNodesConfig for BlockStorage nodes  https://review.openstack.org/11207519:40
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jprovaznlifeless, I see https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1356097 should be fixed now, so upgrading software before template should not be needed, right?19:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1356097 in heat "stack-update from a non-HOT stack to a HOT stack fails" [High,Fix committed]19:46
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lifelessjprovazn: sorry, daughter woke up19:59
jprovaznnp :)19:59
lifelessjprovazn: so the fix makes it *possible* to upgrade such a stack, but only after we've deployed the new heat version20:00
jprovaznyes20:00
jprovaznwhich would be probably right way to go, right?20:00
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lifelesslets reexamine the constraint20:03
lifelesswhat I was saying was that existing clouds need to be upgradeable20:03
jprovaznwhich is a valid requirement20:04
lifelessthe HOT transition constraint is this: for a self hosted undercloud, we cannot simultaneously change software and template20:04
lifelessany other layer the software and template point at a different layer so its not an issue20:04
lifelessnow we haven't delivered self hosted underclouds yet20:06
lifelessso perhaps this is ignorable20:06
lifelessin a pragmatic sense20:06
lifelesssince AFAIK Helion hasn't delivered that yet either20:06
slaglewhat's a "self hosted" undercloud?20:09
jprovazn"the HOT transition constraint" == transition from non-HOT to HOT? (IOW one time issue which should not occur in future?)20:09
slagleno seed around to manage it?20:09
lifelessjprovazn: yes20:09
lifelessslagle: right20:09
lifelessslagle: so the undercloud's ironic contains all the underclouds own nodes20:10
lifelessslagle: and the undercloud's heat contains the stacks 'undercloud' and 'overcloud'20:10
slaglehow would the undercloud deploy itself?20:12
lifelessslagle: the seed deploys it20:12
slagleor did it stack-adopt it's own stack?20:12
lifelessslagle: then we scale the seed out20:12
lifelessslagle: e.g. rather than the undercloud being a fresh cloud, its a scaled out seed20:12
lifelessslagle: its been a while since we detailed the mechanics - this is dependent on HA :) - but from memory20:13
lifelessslagle: seed does init; seed deploys a stack 'uc' which contains foreign references to cluster services - so joins the rabbit and swift and galera clusters20:13
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lifelessslagle: then we kill the seed triggering failover to the undercloud exclusively; then we stack-update removing the foreign references20:14
slagleinteresting20:14
lifelessslagle: to do further updates we need to teach ironic that a conductor cannot conduct its own machine20:15
lifelessslagle: and heat to recover from engine failure mid-update20:15
lifelessslagle: so its a little time away20:15
lifelessslagle: I have to run though, swimming lesson time for C20:15
lifelesseasy +A for someone https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109161/20:16
lifelessand this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103449/20:16
lifelesswhich is part of the vlan technical debt - we're running it live in hp1 and hp220:17
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jprovaznlifeless, I don't see all the Heat details and consequences, but AIUI supposing that HOT transition updates work, it should be safe to remove "increasing metadata in template" from your backward incompatibility spec?20:19
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135663721:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1356637 in tripleo "os-refresh-config fails in hosts element when update is different" [Undecided,New]21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135589821:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135734621:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1355898 in tripleo "mariadb doesn't start after an upgrade" [Undecided,New]21:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357346 in tripleo "undercloud failing to come up on devtest due to pacemaker in os-refresh-config" [Undecided,New]21:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/135839721:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1358397 in tripleo "overcloud stack-create takes > 30 minutes" [High,New]21:00
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greghaynesSpamapS: Sweet, upgrade to -34 fixed for me too21:57
* greghaynes grumbles about releasing crappy kernel for trusty21:58
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greghayneshahahaha https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2014-July/006934.html22:02
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lifelessback22:08
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lifelessI love ubuntu mirror pushes that change nothing but the metadata files22:11
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cineramahee hee. hi lifeless22:13
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lifelessI'm now tracking my apt-mirror using lmirror22:13
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lifelessso I get fairly precise what-changed lists :022:13
greghaynesoooo22:14
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cineramai should check that out22:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Fix bash env var conditionals in merge.py call to be consistent  https://review.openstack.org/10973422:15
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cineramaso I started on my summit registration but I got stuck on the shirt size. do you guys know if i'm going to be issued a womens t-shirt or a gender-neutral one?22:16
cineramabecause the sizes vary quite a bit between them22:16
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lifelesscinerama: paris? womens, unless you put your gender down as neutron :)22:28
cineramalifeless: oh ok, that makes sense.22:31
tchaypogood morning good morning good *morning*22:32
cineramahi tchaypo! are you feeling better?22:33
tchaypoI was. I woke up this morning with more ringing and dizziness. no pain yet but I'm keeping an ear out22:34
pleia2cinerama: I find they don't exactly order what people register with, so I highly recommend registering the night before to get your women's size (plus the lines are shorter)22:34
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix diff return code in hosts element  https://review.openstack.org/11513422:34
cineramapleia2: oh, when you check in? that's a great tip22:35
pleia2cinerama: yep22:35
slaglefyi, that's breaking all stack-updates where you add a node ^^^22:35
tchayposlagle: that sounds messy22:36
slaglefix appears simple enough22:37
tchayposlagle: and then I had a copy-paste fail and ended up looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11513 and being very confused22:37
openstackgerritMichael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Separate existence checks for ca and signing certs  https://review.openstack.org/11513522:37
lifelessslagle: going to link the bug ?22:38
slagleno, b/c i didn't file one22:38
slagleis there an existing one?22:38
lifelessslagle: bug 135564622:39
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1355646 in tripleo "after update hosts content script errors" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135564622:39
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix diff return code in hosts element  https://review.openstack.org/11513422:40
slaglelinked :)22:41
lifelessslagle: reviewed :)22:41
lifelessslagle: can I get a couple +A's ?22:42
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/103449/22:42
lifelesshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/109161/22:42
slagle109161...done22:44
bnemecand merge conflict. :-(22:44
slaglethe other, i'd like to review more thoroughly, and gotta run for dinner and kiddo bedtime routine22:45
openstackgerritlifeless proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add security group rules to tripleo-ci/default  https://review.openstack.org/10916122:46
lifelessbnemec: gerrits fail, git doesn't see a conflict :/22:46
bnemecYeah, Gerrit's merge functionality is...nonexistent.22:47
openstackgerritMichael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Enable basic stdout logging in os-cloud-config  https://review.openstack.org/11513922:50
bnemecWow, literally no differences between PS 2 and 3.22:50
lifelessyeah22:50
bnemecWhat the heck did Gerrit think needed to be merged?22:50
lifelessENFI22:50
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greghaynesSpamapS: Im rebasing yer https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11340823:43
tchaypoI'm looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97657; it adds two new env vars for the location of the (under|over)cloud password files. Several commenters have requested this not introduce new env vars. It's easy enough to change the _(under|over)cloud.sh scripts to take a flag rather than looking in the env23:44
tchaypobut the change also writes the locations into tripleorc so they can be found later. I can't see how else to do that...23:44
tchaypounless we put it in testenv.json23:44
openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make signal_transport a parameter  https://review.openstack.org/11340823:45
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greghaynesSpamapS: and your https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11335823:47
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tchaypoStevenK: i know you have opinions about what should/shouldnt be in testenv.json, what do you think about sticking the password files in there? To me it makes some sense - if you have multiple test envs it's possible you'll have different sets of passwords for each, but also possible you'd like to be able to manually point at an existing ile23:49
lifelesstchaypo: why are we making the location of those files flexible?23:49
openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add nova metadata for group  https://review.openstack.org/11335823:50
tchaypolifeless: that's a good question.23:52
tchaypoI know that multiple people have asked for it or proposed patches to do it - xuhaiwei in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97657/, gfidente mentioned that it's something he wants23:54
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tchaypoI've never asked why23:54
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greghaynesWhy/23:55
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