Tuesday, 2014-09-02

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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Pin requests to version < 2.4.0 due to bug  https://review.openstack.org/11791700:55
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tchaypoah, did we actually get that working?01:42
tchaypoexcellent01:43
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tchaypomy head hurts.02:12
lifelesstchaypo: ear?02:27
tchaypono, just generic head.02:28
tchayponot sure if caffeine or paracetemol might help. so maybe take both?02:28
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tchaypoin other news, I probably want to talk to you about HP2 this afternoon.02:33
tchaypoevery time I route around one roadblock I hit another; I want to check that I'm not missing something02:34
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lifelesstchaypo: welcome to bringup02:59
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/136321503:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/136217803:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/135965403:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1363215 in tripleo "haproxy element in tripleo-image-elements do not support Debian distro" [Undecided,In progress]03:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1362178 in tuskar "tripleo deploy tuskar element failure " [Undecided,New]03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/136314603:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1359654 in tuskar "If the user doesn't specify the connection on the tuskar config we throw an unhelpful error" [Undecided,New]03:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1363146 in diskimage-builder "Cannot create Centos7 image with DIB software elements config" [Undecided,New]03:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/136329803:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1363298 in tripleo "Horizon never runs manage.py collectstatic" [Undecided,New]03:00
tchaypolifeless: in hp2, if I'm reading the spreadsheets right, 10.23.212.403:05
* tchaypo forgets which window he's in03:06
tchaypoIt looks like 10.23.212.0/25 is routed via 10.23.212.1, which seems like it's not the bastion and not the seed03:06
tchayposo I'm assuming it's a router somewhere that I should be able to reach?03:06
lifelessits a router03:08
tchaypobut no. The problem I'm having is that I can't reach 10.23.212.3, which should be on the seed. That should be directly accessible on brbm, router is irrelevant.03:08
lifelessyou cannae touch it03:08
lifelessyes03:08
tchaypobut the seed has no interface in that range, so I must have built it wrong03:10
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lifelesstchaypo: what does the seed have?03:29
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tchaypoeth2 has 192.168.122.96 on eth0, that's all. it has an eth1 that's down.03:42
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tchaypo_undercloud.sh is currently at wait_for_hypervisor_stats; but since it's trying to talk to 10.23.212.3 and the seed isn't bringing that up, I don't expect it to magically complete.03:49
lifelessthen eth1 hasn't come up properly03:50
lifelesswhich means your seed hasn't finsihed deployed03:50
lifelesscheck os-cloud-config on the seed03:50
lifelessthe log03:50
tchaypopossibly unrelated but os-collect-config also can't talk to 169.254.169.25403:51
* tchaypo has breakfast03:51
tchaypothat's better03:51
lifelessbreakfast? little late... ;)03:51
tchaypoa tad.03:51
tchaypomay explain the headache...03:51
tchaypoI would expect that to be /var/log/os-cloud-config.log but I can't see such a file03:53
tchaypono any mention of os-cloud-config in syslog03:53
lifeless /var/log/upstart/...03:53
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tchayponope.03:54
lifelessvery odd ;)03:55
tchaypoit still has openvswitch-switch.log and some other system logs but most things seem to be going to syslog now03:55
lifelessfind / -name "os-cloud-config.log" ?03:55
lifelessservice os-cloud-config --status ?03:55
tchaypoI'm surprised StevenK doesn't have os-cloud-config on hilight03:55
lifelessoh03:56
lifelessmea culpa03:56
lifelessos-collect-config03:56
tchaypoeasy mistake to make03:56
tchaypothat's in /var/log/syslog03:56
tchaypo('Connection aborted.', error(101, 'Network is unreachable'))03:56
lifelessI'm a bit sad about it all being in sysslog03:57
lifelessanyhow you'll want to suck out a bunch of stuff, not just the last line03:57
tchaypowhen i run it by hand it's trying to talk to 169.254.169.254 so i assume that's the case with that error as well03:57
tchaypothat's not the "last line" that's the entirety of the output03:58
tchaypoit looks like upstart tries to run it 3x; the same error happens at 02:22:22.778, 02:22:23.019 and 02:22:23.27203:58
tchaypoif I do it by hand with --debug I get more:03:59
tchaypoNFO requests.packages.urllib3.connectionpool [-] Starting new HTTP connection (1): 169.254.169.25403:59
tchaypoif I use -v I get a stack trace as well03:59
tchaypo... dammit03:59
tchaypo*facepalm*04:00
tchaypodammit04:00
tchaypoit's because i haven't re-run prep-source-repos since the patch that actually gets rid of requests-2.4.004:01
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loki184lifeless: windows disk image builder tool becasue of ci issue planning to add this in stackforge instead of openstack as of now is that ok?04:16
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nikunj2512lifeless: for this bug #1265650 which you submitted, i had submitted a patch for this bug04:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1265650 in diskimage-builder "element-info -d ubuntu errors" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126565004:35
openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Update to newer Centos7 images  https://review.openstack.org/11824604:35
nikunj2512Please look into this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111980/04:36
StevenKtchaypo: You talk about os-collect-config being unable to log, and then switch to os-cloud-config.04:36
StevenKtchaypo: But os-cloud-config runs at *build* time04:36
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tchaypoStevenK: no, lifeless did04:47
StevenKOh04:48
StevenKI'd implicate os-collect-config in that, not os-cloud-config04:48
tchaypowell. I'd implicate requests, but it's being installed by o-col-c, so..04:48
StevenKThere's a logging branch up for os-cloud-config, when that lands, maybe we write logs somewhere.04:49
StevenKBut it runs on the host machine, so ...04:49
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* StevenK ponders landing a patch to tchaypo's comment on 10458604:59
tchaypoos-apply-config: error: unrecognized arguments: --kexy baremetal-network.cidr05:00
tchaypowell that's fun. Where did I make that typo?05:00
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add public VLAN support.  https://review.openstack.org/10375705:08
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StevenKMaybe I should update the commit message of 114894 to say "This is the first step towards supporting Python 3 in os-collect-config."05:17
tchaypothat sounds like important informatoin05:17
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Sync log from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/11489405:23
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Add support for Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/11825405:28
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StevenKtchaypo: Do we want 5.05 on Friday again?05:38
StevenK2014-09-02 05:31:35.791 |   File "./os_collect_config/tests/test_local.py", line 117, in wrong_sort_listdir05:42
StevenK2014-09-02 05:31:35.791 |     save_locale = locale.getlocale(locale.LC_ALL)05:42
StevenKWAT05:42
StevenK2014-09-02 05:31:35.791 |   File "/home/jenkins/workspace/gate-os-collect-config-python33/.tox/py33/lib/python3.3/locale.py", line 523, in getlocale05:42
StevenK2014-09-02 05:31:35.791 |     raise TypeError('category LC_ALL is not supported')05:42
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StevenK... how did this ever work?05:47
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tchaypodid it ever work?05:58
tchaypo5.05 sounds good05:58
tchaypolifeless: re hp2, I'm finally starting to think I'm not just spinning my wheels.05:59
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StevenKtchaypo: 5.05 has Accepted06:00
tchaypoi've dumped what I've been thinking I was doing into /home/shared/bin/build and today I've been running that rather than making repeated attempts to build things by hand06:00
tchaypowhich means I've stopped forgetting steps, which is handy.06:00
xuhaiweihi, in the current design for devtest, seed  supports the dhcp service for undercloud and undercloud supports dhcp service for overcloud, it seems all of them are in the same network. As far as i know it's not good to have two dhcp server in the same network, how to handle this in baremetal environment? If i missed something please correct me06:00
tchaypoxuhaiwei: they're not in the same network06:01
tchaypoif you're using the default setup with baremetal-VMs, there's a new network created just for the seed<->undercloud and another for undercloud<->overcloud networks06:02
tchaypohang on, let me check06:02
tchaypoxuhaiwei: to correct one assumption there - the usual problem with two dhcp servers on the same physical network is that either they're both handing out the same set of IPs (in which case you get conflicts as they both hand the same IP to different clients) or they're handing out different networks (in which case your client could random end up on either network)06:04
tchaypothere are ways to manage multiple dhcp servers on the network; one simple way is to have them hand out non-overlapping ranges of IPs in the same network (eg, one hands out .50-99, the other hands out .100-.149)06:05
tchaypoanother way is to have each server only respond to known MAC addresses06:05
tchaypoand I'm fairly certain that's how neutron handles it - it knows the MAC address of each node it expects to see on the network, so it knows what details to supply to that client06:06
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tchaypoI *think* that even if you do end up with undercloud nodes and overcloud nodes doing DHCP on the same network, overcloud nodes will only be known to the undercloud neutron and undercloud nodes are only known to seed neutron06:06
xuhaiweitchaypo: you mean because we write mac address in the nodes, neutron will handle this for us?06:08
StevenKUnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 49247: ordinal not in range(128)06:11
StevenK... that's so handy :-(06:11
tchaypoxuhaiwei: I *think* so. If I'm right, dnsmasq.conf should contain a list of MAC addresses, I think06:13
tchaypo... nope, not dnsmasq.conf. /var/run/enutron/dhcp/....06:15
tchaypoif you use "ps auxwww | grep dnsmasq" you should see that neutron has started it with --dhcp-hostfile=/var/runneutron/dhcp/..../host - that should be the list of clients06:16
StevenKtchaypo: DHCP relay. Because that isn't a completly horrid hack, or anything. :-P06:16
tchaypoI think only the machines it has "scheduled" - ie, allocated an IP address to06:17
tchaypoStevenK: that's a method for having one dhcp server across multiple networks; rather than multiple servers on one network06:17
xuhaiweitchaypo: in fact, I have put them all in the same network in baremetal environment, and under, overcloud can get ip indeed, but got some other failure, I just wonder if they are caused by the wrong dhcp06:17
xuhaiweithough, overcloud could get a ip, heat still said there is no valid host06:19
tchaypoif you have a machine that got an IP, you should be able to check which server allocated the IP06:19
tchaypothe host file I mentioned has the MAC addresses - check whether seed or undercloud lists the machine's mac06:20
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xuhaiweitchaypo: ok, thank you06:20
tchaypowell, that's one way to check anyway. I'd expect you should be able to query nova to find which nova thinks it knows about that MAC address06:21
tchaypo"Unable to create the network. No tenant network is available for allocation."06:22
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xuhaiweitchaypo: in my undercloud /var/run/neutron/dhcp, there is nothing in it06:23
xuhaiweitchaypo: is it because i restarted the undercloud machine?06:23
tchaypowhat does "neutron port-list" say?06:24
xuhaiweitchaypo: there is another problem, after restarting undercloud, mysql can't be started, so openstack is not running now :)06:24
tchaypoah06:25
tchaypowell, given that the files are under /var/run, I'd expect them to be regenerated when neutron restarts06:25
xuhaiweiis undercloud designed to be never restarted?06:25
tchaypoIn production, it should be restartable06:26
tchaypobut the default devtest scripts have a few things that don't survive a reboot06:26
xuhaiweitchaypo: i think you are right for the dhcp, I rememberd that there are overcloud ip in neutron port-list06:26
tchaypofor instance, they don't add the route to the seed/undercloud (I forget which) permanently, so after reboot you would need to set that up again06:27
tchaypostep 5 on http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-incubator/devtest_seed.html06:28
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xuhaiweiafter restarting, some mounts are gone, so mysql can't start06:28
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tchaypo+ METADATA_SERVER=ctlplane06:49
tchaypothere's my problem.06:49
* tchaypo adds a missing ""06:50
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add public VLAN support.  https://review.openstack.org/10375706:53
openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed a change to openstack/os-collect-config: Add support for Python 3  https://review.openstack.org/11825406:56
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:09:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/136217809:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1362178 in tuskar "tripleo deploy tuskar element failure " [Undecided,New]09:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/135965409:01
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1359654 in tuskar "If the user doesn't specify the connection on the tuskar config we throw an unhelpful error" [Undecided,New]09:01
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regebrordopieralski: Should we add a note on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tuskar-ui/+spec/tripleo-node-tags-widget that we are waiting for UI Bootstrap integration?09:38
regebroBecause that doesn't seem to have happened yet, if I understand things correctly-09:38
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regebro.09:42
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rdopieralskiregebro: we are waiting?09:44
rdopieralskiregebro: I thought that we were supposed to bundle it in tuskar-ui for now, and remove when it's integrated in horizon.09:44
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regebrordopieralski: Oh, right you are. I misremembered.09:52
regebrordopieralski: Should I get going on that, or is there something else you want me to do first?09:53
rdopieralskiregebro: it would be great if you could start on that09:54
regebrowill do.09:54
rdopieralskithanks09:59
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Cleaner code for when nodes are incorrectly configured  https://review.openstack.org/11829714:08
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tuskar: Fixes role name when loading roles  https://review.openstack.org/11731614:09
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openstackgerritRadomir Dopieralski proposed a change to openstack/tuskar-ui: Style the progress views properly  https://review.openstack.org/11830514:18
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:15:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/136217815:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/135965415:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1362178 in tuskar "tripleo deploy tuskar element failure " [Undecided,New]15:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1359654 in tuskar "If the user doesn't specify the connection on the tuskar config we throw an unhelpful error" [Undecided,New]15:00
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Explicitly set DIB_REPOREF_*  https://review.openstack.org/11837515:02
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Adding default stunnel configuration options.  https://review.openstack.org/11331315:54
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix capitalization of openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/11756415:55
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Map dkms package for SUSE in base element  https://review.openstack.org/11838915:59
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Map dkms package for SUSE in base element  https://review.openstack.org/11838916:02
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Map dkms package for SUSE in base element  https://review.openstack.org/11838916:04
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Map dkms package for SUSE in base element  https://review.openstack.org/11838916:25
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openstackgerritThomas Bechtold proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add openvswitch-datapath mapping for SUSE  https://review.openstack.org/11839816:30
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greghaynesderekh: wow https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/136434516:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1364345 in tripleo "CI tests are pulling in the wrong version of git repo's" [Critical,Triaged]16:46
greghaynestwo of those "we werent actually CIing" bugs in two weeks16:46
derekhgreghaynes: yup, except as far as I can see this one was long trem a problem on non tripleo projects16:47
dprincederekh: this would explain some frustrations for sure16:48
* dprince remembers one neutron patch in particular16:48
derekhmy fix doesn't seem to work on ubuntu though ;-( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118375/ , investigating16:48
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derekhdprince: yup, its probably been causing confusion for some time.16:49
derekhactually anybody want to verify that I'm correct16:49
dprincederekh: I'll try and follow up16:50
derekhdprince: thanks, I gotta run, I'll update my patch later16:51
derekhif anybody wants to fix it quicker feel free to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118375/ , I suspect the git version being different on ubuntu precise is causing a problem16:52
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greghaynesIs today a 1900 or 0700 meeting time?17:19
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slagle_0700 i think17:28
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openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Make keystone_pki less keystone specific  https://review.openstack.org/10363717:34
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blinky_ghosthi all, I'm trying to deploy tripleo in a virtual env with inkstack. When I run instack-virt-setup I get this error: seed VM not defined17:42
blinky_ghostTraceback (most recent call last):17:42
blinky_ghost  File "/usr/libexec/openstack-tripleo/configure-vm", line 98, in <module>17:42
blinky_ghost    main()17:42
blinky_ghost  File "/usr/libexec/openstack-tripleo/configure-vm", line 92, in main17:42
blinky_ghost    libvirt_template = source_template % params17:42
blinky_ghostKeyError: 'emulator'17:42
blinky_ghostany hint? thanks17:42
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* greghaynes wonders what inkstack is17:42
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greghayneshas some pretty interesting google search results17:43
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openstackgerritJon-Paul Sullivan (jp_at_hp) proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add script to patch repos from gerrit  https://review.openstack.org/11842618:16
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openstackgerritDan Prince proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Explicitly set DIB_REPOREF_*  https://review.openstack.org/11837518:29
dprincederekh: lets try that ^^18:29
dprincederekh: left you a note on the review but I do think this is another source-repositories bug in that it isn't calculating the REF correctly when you are in detached head state.18:31
dprincederekh: your proposal is the documented approach however so I see no reason not to use it. Also, I kind of thing source-repositories needs some good unit tests. The logic is already a bit hard to follow...18:31
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix capitalization of openSUSE  https://review.openstack.org/11756418:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix dib-lint failures  https://review.openstack.org/10936319:07
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slagle"This patch needs further work before it can be merged"19:15
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slaglegerrit got all polite over the weekend19:15
openstackgerritPhil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add ssl options for ceilometer rabbitmq connection  https://review.openstack.org/11782119:21
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add helper script for defining pacemaker resources  https://review.openstack.org/11771619:28
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greghaynesdid the neutron fix not land yet?19:42
greghaynes:(19:42
greghaynesoh, no, these tests are old19:43
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openstackgerritPhil Neal proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add ssl options for ceilometer rabbitmq connection  https://review.openstack.org/11782119:45
* SpamapS polishes off an element that allows editting previously created images with new elements19:46
SpamapSslagle: didn't you do something like that?19:47
SpamapSslagle: or were you just poking at guestfish?19:47
lifelessSpamapS: ghe did something19:54
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enable and start httpd  https://review.openstack.org/11675620:05
slagleSpamapS: someone had a replay element script against an existing image. can't remember who20:08
lifelessslagle: it was GheRivero_afk :)20:09
slaglehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/80267/20:09
lifelessmm actually couple of related things20:10
lifelessghe's was using an arbitrary image as input20:10
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slaglei did the instack thing to apply elements to an already booted system20:12
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Change | to > in templates.  https://review.openstack.org/11795020:18
greghayneshrm, AFAICT our app logs are just plain missing on precise jobs20:23
greghaynesin CI20:23
* greghaynes hopes someone will just tell me im crazy and missing something20:23
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GheRiveroslagle: lifeless I did something related a long time ago (20:29
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greghaynesoh, I see, they are now all of a sudden only in /var/log/syslog20:29
greghayneswas this intentional?20:29
GheRiveroslagle: lifeless: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20815/ January 2013 I guess things have changes a lot20:30
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greghayneshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/104619/ :/20:32
greghaynesmunging all the logs together into one file results in a pretty hard to use logfile20:33
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greghaynesmaybe I should write some rsyslog config to fix this20:34
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element-manifest  https://review.openstack.org/11846120:40
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tchaypoGood morning!20:53
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element-manifest  https://review.openstack.org/11846120:54
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openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Reduce resource requirements set aside for testenvs  https://review.openstack.org/10635220:58
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Refresh the glance images for squid and te-broker  https://review.openstack.org/10916920:58
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Create the h1.ci flavor on ci-overclouds  https://review.openstack.org/10963020:58
openstackgerritJames Polley proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Move tripleo-bm-test network to 172.16.0.0/22  https://review.openstack.org/10926120:58
tchaypoDon't know why gerrit couldn't rebase those, I didn't do anything..20:59
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:21:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/136217821:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1362178 in tuskar "tripleo deploy tuskar element failure " [Undecided,New]21:01
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/135965421:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1359654 in tuskar "If the user doesn't specify the connection on the tuskar config we throw an unhelpful error" [Undecided,New]21:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Run cinder-volume in active/passive mode for NFS backend  https://review.openstack.org/11724921:03
openstackgerritGregory Haynes proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: On ubuntu break app logs into their own files  https://review.openstack.org/11846421:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/diskimage-builder: Extend/fix support for extlinux bootloader  https://review.openstack.org/10413621:06
openstackgerritAbel Lopez proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Changed serial console setup  https://review.openstack.org/11640821:07
tchaypogreghaynes: which reminds me, were you doing some work on ironic's thingy?21:09
tchaypoi want to say "ringbuffer" but that's wrong.21:09
tchaypohash ring, that's what i mean21:09
greghaynesyep21:09
greghaynesasking because the ML thread?21:10
tchaypohttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/044566.html21:10
tchaypoyes21:10
greghaynesyea, I was hoping to read up on some code before responding, I still dont have enough confidence in how ironic uses it to respond with what I think21:10
greghayneswhich is 'I dont think thats true'21:10
tchaypoMaybe it's worth giving your low-confidence answer, flagged as being low-confidence, just so they know someone else is looking at it?21:11
greghaynesheh21:12
greghaynesvalid21:12
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lifelesstchaypo: greghaynes: I've replied21:33
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tchaypolifeless: to nejc?21:42
tchaypooh, there it is21:42
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Explicitly set DIB_REPOREF_*  https://review.openstack.org/11837521:47
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tchaypoI've got some questions about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115788/121:52
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Make turning debug on globally easy.  https://review.openstack.org/11277821:53
tchaypoI don't know if I need to ask slagle or if it's something that should be obvious just from reading the change21:53
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tchaypourgh. My pre coffee brain parsed 112778 as "make (turning debug on) (globally easy) and was wondering what the difference between "easy" and "globally easy" is21:54
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tchaypobut about 115788... it turns out the answer is "tchaypo can answer his own question by reading docs"21:56
tchaypoOn a different note21:59
tchaypoLooking at the 30/90 day stats - we're down to just 11 people who have managed >60 reviews in the last 30 days, and 3 of those are non-core so they can't land any changes.22:00
tchaypo90 days - also 11, also 3 non-cores22:01
tchaypoi count 9 cores who have fallen under their commitment22:01
tchaypogreghaynes: you're right on the border for the 30-day stats, if you could creep back over the line it would make me happy :)22:01
greghaynesheh22:02
greghaynes#summer22:02
greghayneswedding and then ops meetup -> ETIME22:02
SpamapSgreghaynes: there's that whole "shipping a product" thing too22:08
greghaynesoh, right!22:08
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openstackgerritMichael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Enable standard logging in os-cloud-config  https://review.openstack.org/11513922:16
openstackgerritMichael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Keystone/LDAP integration  https://review.openstack.org/10616722:17
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* tchaypo waits for someone to point out that his personal average is 0.5 reviews/day over the last 3022:22
tchaypolifeless: given our review velocity issues, and the recent drop-off, it seem like it would be really good to at least consider adding stevenk, lxsli, and dougal as cores so they can start landing some of the things they're currently +1ing22:24
tchaypogreghaynes: if you're considering procreating, I might have to sic RMS on to you22:25
greghaynesI think we might also be in need of a trimming on the low end22:25
greghaynesoh noes22:26
tchaypohttp://edward.oconnor.cx/2005/04/rms (for anyone who still hasn't seen it, 9 years later)22:26
bnemeclxsli is already core, it just hasn't been added to reviewstats yet.22:26
tchaypogreghaynes: get yourself over the line, *then* suggest a trimming at the low end ;)22:26
greghaynesI have some pretty funny RMS stories from when he crashed on a buddies couch when we asked him to speak at our college22:27
tchaypobnemec: ah, awesome22:27
tchaypogreghaynes: did your buddy have a parrot?22:27
greghaynesno, a parakeet22:27
bnemecI'm -1 on adding someone to core solely based on review numbers too.22:27
greghayneswhich is why this person was chosen22:27
tchaypobnemec: me too - hence "at least consider" :)22:28
* bnemec is not signing up to do the meta-review, FTR ;-)22:28
lifelessnumbers are not sufficient :)22:32
lifelesstchaypo: lxsli is a core22:32
bnemectchaypo: FYI: https://review.openstack.org/11848322:37
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed a change to openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Explicitly set DIB_REPOREF_*  https://review.openstack.org/11837522:43
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openstackgerritMichael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Create _member_ role instead of Member  https://review.openstack.org/11701722:52
tchaypo lifeless: yes, bnemec mentinoed that already :)23:00
tchaypobnemec: interesting change23:01
tchaypolifeless: but numbers are neccessary, right?23:03
lifelessyes23:04
tchaypoSo on a scale of 1 to 10, how impertinent would it be for someone currently average 0.5 reviews/day to mail the list and point out that about 1/3rd of all current cores are not currently meeting their commitments?23:05
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greghaynestchaypo: might be a good meeting topix23:05
tchaypoI tell a lie - on the 30 day stats it's actually >50% not meeting commitments23:05
tchaypoI feel like meetings aren't well enough attended for it to be useful to bring up there23:06
tchaypoor rather, I think the main discussion needs to be on the list, the meeting can certainly add to it23:06
greghaynesyea, IMO thats more of an issue than not giving new people core in a timely manner23:06
greghaynesI mean, I wouldnt be offended if you sent out the email :)23:07
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openstackgerritMichael Tupitsyn proposed a change to openstack/os-cloud-config: Separate existence checks for ca and signing certs  https://review.openstack.org/11513523:13
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tchaypo*reads reviewstats code*23:20
tchaypoif I'm reading correctly, the "Stats since the latest revision" numbers are specifically about the reviews that are waiting_on_reviewer23:20
tchaypoand waiting_on_reviewer means that they haven't been approved but also have no negative feedback on the current patchset23:22
tchaypo"a patch that has no negative reviews but also can't be approved (because it isn't passing CI, or because it depends on other changes that are more contentious) will increase these average wait times."23:25
tchaypois that right? *thinks*23:25
tchaypoyes, I think it is23:27
tchaypothat awkward moment when your computer is beeping at you and you don't know why23:31
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/diskimage-builder: Add element-manifest  https://review.openstack.org/11846123:34
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed a change to openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Enable and start httpd  https://review.openstack.org/11675623:38
lifelesstchaypo: yes23:39
lifelesstchaypo: I think the definitions are ok23:39
lifelesstchaypo: I think the impl is counting something slightly different23:40
lifelesstchaypo: e.g. we want the sum of time in that state23:40
lifelesstchaypo: I think we get time since upload, for reviews currently in that state23:40
tchaypotime since most recent upload23:43
tchaypo*reads code again*23:44
tchaypoage is since most recent patch, age2 is since the first patch, age3 is since the most-recent-patch-with-no-negative-reviews23:45
lifelessso if it sits with a -1 for two weeks23:46
lifelessthen it gets unblocked without a new patch23:47
lifelesswhat a) should we measure for it23:47
lifelessb) what do we measure for it23:47
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tchaypoDo we always ask each potential new core to explicitly commmit to 3 reviews per day?23:51
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tchaypo*checks* Yep, both updates since I've been around we've asked the people to individually confirm that committment as part of accepting core23:53
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