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greghaynesso, I wonder how bad it would be if we just didnt use syslog and instead did logging.conf's for our apps that just wrote out files...01:19
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Log directly to syslog from os services  https://review.openstack.org/13884402:21
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adam_ggreghaynes, i never understood, why not just use each service's built in oslo.log facilities?02:24
greghaynesyes02:24
greghaynesso, ^ is something that just makes things better while keeping our status quo, I am going to make an ML email proposing we switch to just using python logging.conf's that output to flat files02:26
greghaynesbecause why make it more complex than it needs to be02:26
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adam_ggreghaynes, why even do that? does oslo not satisfy tripleo's logging requirements? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.log/tree/oslo/log/_options.py02:29
SpamapSadam_g: we've been using the defaults, which is stdout02:29
SpamapSadam_g: thats probably not the best production default.02:29
greghaynesadam_g: one thing I *really* want is for us to do debug logs but in a separate tile02:29
adam_gSpamapS, oh right, defaults only.02:29
adam_ghmph02:29
greghayneser, separate file02:29
greghaynesI think the defaults thing kind of breaks down for logging, were going to want to centralise our logs (or likely even flutentd/logstash)02:31
greghaynesat which point you have to do !defaults02:31
greghaynesI do get the dont go crazy on making filters for things to log vs not log because that loses a lot of value we provide02:32
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jiangfeievery service may be should compress log file.  default log file is too large02:33
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SpamapShm so yeah, somebody should monkeypatch python's syslog module in eventlet02:39
SpamapSproblem is..02:39
SpamapSthere's no non-blocking syslog call02:39
greghaynesThats why we just write to /dev/log02:39
SpamapSdoes eventlet ever do threads?02:40
greghaynesheh02:40
greghaynesI have no idea02:40
SpamapSbecause a thread would be the only way to make posix syslog() non-blocking02:41
SpamapSgreghaynes: yeah, looks like /dev/log is "the way"02:42
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openstackgerritjiangfei proposed openstack/tripleo-incubator: use @ instead of . for admin user email   https://review.openstack.org/13799303:09
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:04:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139690504:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139690404:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396905 in tripleo "haproxy logs are not rotated properly" [Undecided,New]04:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/122984904:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396904 in tripleo "keepalived logs are not rotated properly" [Undecided,New]04:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/138706104:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1229849 in heat "In future native Heat templates, we should leave the image users alone on servers" [Wishlist,In progress]04:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139859104:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1387061 in tripleo "deploy under cloud failure due to pacemaker " [Undecided,New]04:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/+bug/139825404:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398591 in tripleo "metadata-proxy process is not killed when running in a virtual environment" [Undecided,In progress]04:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/138748704:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398254 in os-collect-config "os-collect-config can't get correct keystone v3 auth_url using keystoneclient discover" [Undecided,In progress]04:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139673004:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1387487 in tuskar "tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui  needs authentication from Keystone" [Undecided,New]04:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396730 in tripleo "br-ex doesn't activate when overcloud controller is rebooted" [Undecided,New]04:00
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openstackgerritSteve Kowalik proposed openstack/os-cloud-config: Add a glance module that allows uploading images  https://review.openstack.org/13894704:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Fix the bandersnatch element on ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/13841405:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-incubator: use @ instead of . for admin user email   https://review.openstack.org/13799307:30
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openstackgerritMartin André proposed stackforge/kolla: Remove duplicate write of openrc  https://review.openstack.org/13862507:55
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tchaypog'mornin08:04
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greghayneshuh, this is a new fail for me http://logs.openstack.org/44/138844/2/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-ironic-overcloud-f20-nonha/3de4a72/console.html#_2014-12-04_03_41_52_50608:16
greghayneshuh http://logs.openstack.org/44/138844/2/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-ironic-overcloud-precise-nonha/fec83f9/logs/overcloud-controller0_logs/glance-api.txt.gz08:18
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openstackgerritMartin André proposed stackforge/kolla: Allow building docker image from anywhere  https://review.openstack.org/13861408:27
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openstackgerritjiangfei proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: add rabbitmq flow-control to heat-template  https://review.openstack.org/13801508:31
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shardyshadower: Hey, around?09:11
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shadowershardy: yep09:15
shadowerwhat's up09:16
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shardyshadower: Hi!  I've been thinking about your proposed ResourceGroup->AutoScalingGroup change, have a few questions:09:16
shardy- Do we need to consider upgrade path, e.g stack-update from ResourceGroup to ASG?09:17
shardycurrently that will replace everything09:17
shadowergood question :-)09:17
shardyThis is prompted by SpamapS response re upgrade path from the no-mergepy scripts09:17
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shardyIt should be possible, but with the current heat code structure it won't be especially easy :(09:18
shadoweryeah :-(09:19
shardyshadower: Also, I'm thinking we should get some update CI in place soon, so moves like this don't cause regressions09:19
shadowergood idea09:19
shardye.g lsmola has provided great feedback regarding several ResourceGroup update bugs recently, all now fixed in Heat09:19
shadowercool09:20
shardymy concern is that the ASG code is all different atm, so we don't want to regress when moving to ASG :)09:20
shadowerI was just about to ask that09:20
shadoweryeah so the problem is09:20
shardyThe alternative might be to refactor so ResourceGroup supports rolling updates..09:20
shardypossibly..09:20
shadoweron one hand, I'd love to be able to move away from merge.py asap09:20
shadoweron the other, I was thinking maybe we sholud wait until we have AutoScalingGroup in place09:21
shadowerbecause then we won't have to worry about RG->ASG upgrade path09:21
lsmolashardy: : yaay \o/09:21
shardyhey lsmola o/09:22
lsmolashadower: so how far is the ASG?09:22
lsmolashadower: cause we have only 6months to have something production ready09:22
shadowerlsmola: OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup09:22
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lsmolashadower: so all the features we have in RG are working there?09:23
shadowerwhere?09:23
shadowerasg?09:23
lsmolashadower: with ASG09:23
lsmolashadower: yes09:23
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shadowerellision is missing. And who knows what bugs may still lurk around09:23
shardylsmola: that's what I just said, we'll need to test to make sure it still works09:23
shardyYeah, and I need to add removal_policies09:23
shardythat shouldn't be too hard, I'll try to do it soon09:23
lsmolashardy: yeah, that seems like a reasonable path09:24
shadowershardy: I should have some time to add remova_policies next week09:24
lsmolashardy: if ASG will be able to pass current and future Instack tests, it should be ok09:24
shardyshadower: Ok, if you're happy to do it that's great09:24
lsmolashardy: but focusing now on writing proper tests is very important09:24
shardyshadower: the ASG code is a little bit different, but hopefully we can abstract the common logic09:24
shadowershardy: cool, I was kind of counting on donig it (since we need that bit, too)09:25
shadowerlsmola: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138733/ fyi09:25
shardyshadower: Ok, no problem, I was going to pick it up if it's blocking you, but happy to pass it on if you have time :)09:25
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shadoweryea, should be fine :-)09:25
shardycool, shout if you need any help09:25
shadoweryep, much appreciated09:26
shardyshadower: I'll start thinking about how RG->ASG updates might work in a non destructive way09:26
shardyperhaps delaying any switch of defaults makes sense until after your ASG change lands anyway09:26
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shadoweryeah09:27
lsmolashadower: cool09:27
shadowershardy: I wonder if we could (going forward) unify RG and ASG09:27
shadowershardy: they seem to be quite similar, from the outside at least09:27
shardyshadower: Yeah, really ResourceGroup could be a provider template wrapping ASG09:27
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shardythere is work going on to refactor all-the-things related to ASG code, but it's moving slowly09:27
shadowershardy: you mean what Qiming is doing?09:28
lsmolashadower: shardy right, seems to me only Scaling policy should be different in ASG09:28
shardyshadower: small details will trip us up, like ResourceGroup instance names are "0", "1", etc, and ASG are short random ID's09:28
shadowerright09:28
shardyfolks might be relying on that, so we probably need a way to maintain it09:28
shardyor broadcast the deprecation I guess09:29
shadoweryeah09:29
shadowershardy: shouldn't be problem for a potential migration from RG->ASG in tripleo templates, though09:29
shardyI'd prefer all random IDs myself, as it avoids the reuse-of-indexes problem using removal_policies09:29
shadoweryeah09:29
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shardyshadower: If we converged the implementations, it would actually solve the RG->ASG update problem09:29
shadoweryeah09:30
shardyas the nested stack update would just do nothing09:30
shardyOr potentially, we'd have to avoid replacing the group due to the type changing09:30
shardyAnyway, I'll give it some thought :)09:30
shardyYeah, the work Qiming has been looking at09:30
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tchaypobased on http://doodle.com/27ffgkdm5gxzr654 Tues 2100 UTC is looking like a good time for the alternate meeting09:31
shadoweryeah, I'd like to help with that but it's still unclear if I'll have time to do that09:31
shadowershardy: oh by the way, the rolling_updates property of AutoScalingGroups all seem to be "replace on update". I'm assuming that means if I want to change the update policy of a group, it'll have to rebuild everything?09:32
* shardy looks09:32
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/autoscaling_group.py#L8509:34
shardyshadower: I think it should allow update without replacement of the group09:34
shardyI'm sure there will be update related bugs similar to those lsmola found though09:34
shadowershardy: okay, but what about the sub properties? At least based on the docs, those cause replacement09:34
shadowerhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup09:35
shardyThere were a few cases we were missing update_allowed=True for ResourceGroup which caused undesired replacement09:35
shadowerright09:35
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shardyshadower: we'll have to test, but I think that may be a docs bug09:35
shadoweroh okay09:36
shardyThe schema "causes replacement" part should, I think, only have effect from the top-level property09:36
shardyThe nested schema shouldn't trigger replacement, I think, but the docs generation doesn't know that09:36
shadowerokay, good to know09:36
shardyIf that proves to be the case, please raise a bug and we'll fix it :)09:36
shadoweryep ;-)09:37
shardyActually it says the same for removal_policies for ResourceGroup, so I'll raise a bug as I know that works09:37
shadowercool,, I'll remove a fixme from my ASG templates, then :-)09:38
shardyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/139912009:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1399120 in heat "Docs nested schema inaccurate replacement text" [Undecided,New]09:40
openstackgerritTomas Sedovic proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Convert node groups to AutoScalingGroup  https://review.openstack.org/13873309:40
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:10:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139690510:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396905 in tripleo "haproxy logs are not rotated properly" [Undecided,New]10:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139690410:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396904 in tripleo "keepalived logs are not rotated properly" [Undecided,New]10:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/122984910:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1229849 in heat "In future native Heat templates, we should leave the image users alone on servers" [Wishlist,In progress]10:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/138706110:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1387061 in tripleo "deploy under cloud failure due to pacemaker " [Undecided,New]10:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139859110:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398591 in tripleo "metadata-proxy process is not killed when running in a virtual environment" [Undecided,In progress]10:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/+bug/139825410:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398254 in os-collect-config "os-collect-config can't get correct keystone v3 auth_url using keystoneclient discover" [Undecided,In progress]10:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/138748710:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1387487 in tuskar "tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui  needs authentication from Keystone" [Undecided,New]10:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139673010:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396730 in tripleo "br-ex doesn't activate when overcloud controller is rebooted" [Undecided,New]10:00
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gfidentehi marios , thanks for reviewing the ceph change :)10:25
gfidentewill update soon10:25
openstackgerritTom Cammann proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Use tls_checks in HAProxy config  https://review.openstack.org/13804110:30
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openstackgerritdave-mcnally proposed openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add ability to disable stunnel  https://review.openstack.org/13605210:54
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blinky_ghostbnemec: Hi :) do you have a little time for me? :)12:31
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openstackgerritTom Hancock proposed openstack/os-cloud-config: Add support for pxe_ilo driver  https://review.openstack.org/13904112:59
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci: Set TripleO CI control variables based on job type  https://review.openstack.org/12897213:18
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Log directly to syslog from os services  https://review.openstack.org/13884413:37
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openstackgerritEndre Karlson proposed openstack/os-collect-config: Add ca_certificate option for SSL'd api  https://review.openstack.org/13905213:44
ekarlso-        print self._session13:47
ekarlso-ehm, can I get someone to look at ^ ?13:47
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openstackgerritjan grant proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Fix race in svc-map  https://review.openstack.org/13906414:16
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openstackgerritTom Hancock proposed openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Add support for pxe_ilo driver  https://review.openstack.org/13907014:36
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openstackgerritTomas Sedovic proposed openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add USE_MERGEPY to devtest_variables.sh  https://review.openstack.org/13909415:46
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blinky_ghostdtansur: Hi, are you there?15:48
blinky_ghostdtantsur, sorry15:49
dtantsurblinky_ghost, hi15:49
blinky_ghostdtantsur: can you help me with centos 7 discovery issue?15:49
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blinky_ghostdtantsur: As I told you the other day I'm trying to discover the node using Centos7. The node shutdowns itself but in UI I see "Discovering" and "Powered On". In the logs I have this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/144655/15:55
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gfidenteshadower, ^^ that's something :)15:57
gfidenteI feel the pressure to recheck the templates now :)15:57
shadower:-)15:57
gfidentenice though15:57
shadoweronce that's merged, I'll send a patch that adds the ci job15:57
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gfidentewell, won't the CI job just use it after it merges?15:59
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:16:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139690516:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139690416:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396905 in tripleo "haproxy logs are not rotated properly" [Undecided,New]16:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/122984916:00
shadowergfidente: nope, this still just lets you choose between both16:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396904 in tripleo "keepalived logs are not rotated properly" [Undecided,New]16:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/138706116:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1229849 in heat "In future native Heat templates, we should leave the image users alone on servers" [Wishlist,In progress]16:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1387061 in tripleo "deploy under cloud failure due to pacemaker " [Undecided,New]16:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139859116:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398591 in tripleo "metadata-proxy process is not killed when running in a virtual environment" [Undecided,In progress]16:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/+bug/139825416:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398254 in os-collect-config "os-collect-config can't get correct keystone v3 auth_url using keystoneclient discover" [Undecided,In progress]16:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/138748716:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1387487 in tuskar "tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui  needs authentication from Keystone" [Undecided,New]16:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139673016:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396730 in tripleo "br-ex doesn't activate when overcloud controller is rebooted" [Undecided,New]16:00
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shadowergfidente: and the merge.py branch is still the default one16:00
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dtantsurblinky_ghost, is it a full log? I feel like the end is missing16:01
dtantsurblinky_ghost, anyway, if it's a bare metal, it's really strange that there's no BMC address16:02
dtantsurit's a bare metal, right?16:02
gfidenteah the default to 1 in devtest_variables ...16:03
gfidenteI hate you16:03
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shadowerlol16:03
gfidenteshadower, so we should have CI jobs for both because of backwards compat?16:04
shadowerat least for the time being, yeah16:05
shadowerI don't want us to switch over until the templates have proven themselves16:05
shadowerplus upgrading from16:05
shadowersry16:05
gfidenteupgrading is not possible right?16:05
shadowerupgrading existing merge.py deployments to the new stuff is going to be pretty tough16:05
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shadoweryea16:05
shadowerwell16:05
shadowershardy: had some ideas on the openstack-dev but it's not looking great16:06
shadowernot something Heat was ever meant to do I think16:06
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blinky_ghostdtantsur: I'll paste full log. My undercloud is based in Fedora 20. When I tested with Fedora 20 overcloud images it work fine. This happens with Centos 7.16:07
dtantsurblinky_ghost, yes please. just co confirm once more: is it a vm or bare metal?16:07
blinky_ghostdtantsur: baremetal16:08
dtantsurthat's pretty bad16:08
dtantsurblinky_ghost, then could you also make a screenshot of it after discovery?16:08
blinky_ghostdtantsur: http://paste.openstack.org/show/144660/16:10
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shardyshadower: Yeah, I think it's possible but could be pretty hard :(16:12
dtantsurblinky_ghost, it seems to be the earlier peace, it doesn't contain the ending. ANyway, the screenshot is likely to be of more value16:12
shardyIf abandon/adopt was 100% working things would be easier, but we'd have to fix all-the-things related to that before even starting on a migration tool16:13
shardyI guess this use-case increases the priority of that work16:13
blinky_ghostdtantsur: http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-12-04_16_13_00-0YPcQPTj.png16:13
shadoweryeah :-(16:13
shadowershardy, gfidente: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139102/16:13
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shadowerthat will enable the nonmerge templates in the CI16:14
shadoweronce the dependency is merged16:14
dtantsurblinky_ghost, unfortunately, it does not contain what I wanted... hmmmm... where did you get the discovery ramdisk?16:15
shardyshadower: well that's a first step I guess :)16:15
blinky_ghostdtantsur: If you notice in the logs it seems to detect the hw specs16:15
blinky_ghostdtantsur: I've created it16:15
dtantsurblinky_ghost, yeah, but I don't see what happened to IPMI detection16:15
dtantsurblinky_ghost, from what source?16:15
blinky_ghostdtantsur: I've used instack-build-images script16:16
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dtantsurblinky_ghost, and the latest instack checkout, right? or was it packages?16:16
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blinky_ghostdtantsur: packages16:17
dtantsurblinky_ghost, which version `yum info instack-undercloud` shows?16:17
gfidenteshadower, I'd love to see the block or swift scaling stuff in one of the jobs, that is why I was asking about the new jo16:18
gfidente*job16:18
bnemecblinky_ghost: Sorry, distracted this morning.16:18
blinky_ghostdtantsur: Version     : 1.0.25 Release     : 1.fc2216:18
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shadowerright16:19
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shadowerwell I guess we can add it there16:19
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blinky_ghostbnemec: no problem :) I'm struggling with Centos 7 discovery :)16:19
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shadowerbut I'd like to keep parity with the existing jobs for now16:20
shadowergfidente: and add storage as a next step to all jobs16:20
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bnemecblinky_ghost: Yeah, we haven't tested centos at all. :-)16:20
dtantsurblinky_ghost, that's bad, you need at least 1.0.29 to get workaround we discussed some time ago. any chance to update then rebuild image?16:20
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blinky_ghostdtantsur: sure happy to :)16:20
blinky_ghostdtantsur: how do I get 1.0.2916:21
bnemecdtantsur: 1.0.30 isn't in the fedora repo yet. :-(16:21
dtantsurbnemec, what about .29? should be enough16:21
bnemecdtantsur: 1.0.30 is the one I pushed to RDO, but it hasn't been synced to the public repo yet.16:21
dtantsuroh well.16:22
bnemecIt's available for el7 for some reason though.16:22
dtantsurbnemec, so it should be available for centos?16:22
bnemecI don't know what's going on with all of that.  There are some unrelated issues blocking the Fedora sync.16:22
bnemecdtantsur: Yes16:22
dtantsurblinky_ghost, ^^^ yum update should in theory work16:22
bnemecAlthough see "we haven't tested centos at all" above. :-)16:23
blinky_ghostbnemec: so I should this try this with centos 7 undercloud?16:23
bnemecdtantsur: I think blinky_ghost is running Fedora on the host.16:23
dtantsuraaaah16:23
dtantsurblinky_ghost, no, probably you should not for now :)16:23
dtantsurblinky_ghost, either wait for 1.0.30 to sync or apply https://github.com/agroup/instack-undercloud/commit/6b80a3b1ccf77940fa85ac6bd72f0470f9693de1 manually16:24
bnemecblinky_ghost: Honestly, until the package updates push you might want to just keep using the Fedora discovery ramdisk.16:24
dtantsurelements are somewhere around /usr/lib/instack-undercloud IIRC16:24
blinky_ghostbnemec, dtantsur: sure, I'll wait no problem16:24
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bnemecPractically speaking there's very little difference between a Fedora and CentOS discover ramdisk and if the Fedora one works I think that's the way to go.16:25
bnemecHopefully we'll get our packaging stuff sorted and there won't be such a lag between fixes being made and released.16:26
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blinky_ghostbnemec: OK cool I'll test it later16:28
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mordredI hear that all of the people in here understand cloud-init and the ways in which it interacts with upstart16:31
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openstackgerritEamonn O'Toole proposed openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Swift proxy memcache authtoken additions  https://review.openstack.org/13910716:39
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tchaypogfidente: are you around?17:05
gfidentetchaypo, yes! :)17:05
tchaypogfidente: looking at your responses on doodle - I notice you’re a blanket “no” for every day except monday17:05
gfidentetchaypo, I am sorry, it is actually just that I didn't want to repeat that17:05
tchayposhould i be assuming that means “I really want it to be monday”, or does that just mean “all these days are the same”?17:05
tchaypoexcellent :)17:05
gfidenteevery day of week but I meant to say same time every other day17:05
gfidenteI could also add some 'if it has to be, so it will' if that helps17:06
gfidenteif you paste me the doodle link I will update that, sorry17:06
tchaypohttp://doodle.com/27ffgkdm5gxzr65417:06
gfidenteat least with all days of week17:06
tchaypoIt might help. At minimum i think it would make it clear that 1200/1400/1500 each day seem to be the best times for europe.17:07
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SpamapSshardy: (reading backscroll) having update CI is a huge concern for tripleo-ansible as well. :)17:13
SpamapSshadower & shardy: what do you think about trying to use the external reference feature under dev for the upgrade path?17:14
shardySpamapS: I did think about that, but a major limitation is the resources aren't actually managed by heat17:14
shardyE.g it's not the same as adopt, we just reference the attributes of the externally created things17:14
shardySo updates for externally referenced resources will never work17:15
shardyReally, I think we need to fix stack-adopt17:15
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SpamapSshardy: you'd only make them external for translation purposes.17:23
shardySpamapS: So you mean until you can delete and recreate the stack?17:24
SpamapSshardy: so, update to make the server resources external, delete them, update to make them external ASG, update to remove external ref tag.17:24
SpamapS4 updates in total17:24
* SpamapS gets the workflow twitchy eye again17:24
shardySpamapS: Hmm, that's not quite my understanding of how the external reference is supposed/going to work tbh, but we can certainly chat to asalkeld about it17:25
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shardySpamapS: Just re-read the spec, maybe that could work, lets see how the implementation shapes up17:30
SpamapSshardy: Alternatively..17:30
SpamapSshardy: we can teach Heat how to morph things.17:30
SpamapSbut that sounds like idealism17:30
shardySpamapS: well I actually think maybe we should in obviously-compatible translations, e.g someone changes ResourceGroup type to AutoScalingGroup, we shouldn't delete all their resources17:31
shardybut in this case, I can't really see how we'd specify the required translation to heat17:31
SpamapSshardy: it would have to be part of plugins17:31
SpamapSshardy: lets talk in #heat..17:32
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openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Align the cinder-storage.yaml template with block-storage.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/13912717:38
gfidente^^ this is not testable in CI so please be nice and gift me some plusvotes :)17:40
gfidentedon't forget it is christmas time17:41
gfidenteand I mean that for the cinder/ceph stuff too17:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Remove selinux from os-svc-install element-deps  https://review.openstack.org/13581517:50
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openstackgerritAbel Lopez proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Don't use lsb_release  https://review.openstack.org/13913318:06
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openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add support for building Ceph nodes and configure Cinder to use it  https://review.openstack.org/13703118:13
sdakedaneyon around?18:13
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openstackgerritAbel Lopez proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Don't use lsb_release  https://review.openstack.org/13913319:07
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/kolla: Allow building docker image from anywhere  https://review.openstack.org/13861419:10
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/kolla: Cleanup variable checks in glance-registry/start.sh  https://review.openstack.org/13862619:10
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openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow injecting arbitrary yum repo configuration  https://review.openstack.org/13917220:06
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow injecting arbitrary yum repo configuration  https://review.openstack.org/13917220:07
openstackgerritJames Slagle proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Allow injecting arbitrary yum repo configuration  https://review.openstack.org/13917220:09
openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-incubator: Add support for building Ceph nodes and configure Cinder to use it  https://review.openstack.org/13703120:15
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openstackgerritDan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-puppet-elements: Add a Hiera element  https://review.openstack.org/13853621:09
openstackgerritDan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-puppet-elements: Add a Hiera element  https://review.openstack.org/13853621:10
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dprincenibalizer: hi, so what are your thoughts on switching to hiera('') syntax vs. using FACTOR_ variables in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130304/6/puppet_manifests/overcloud_compute.pp,cm21:41
dprincenibalizer: I'm going to plumb in the Hiera stuff here shortly. There will be overlay files for the compute role and common which could be used to lay in *any* Hiera magic we want. But we can't use them for everything... so the question is should I stick w/ FACTOR_ for now.21:43
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untriaged-botUntriaged bugs so far:22:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139690522:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396905 in tripleo "haproxy logs are not rotated properly" [Undecided,New]22:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139690422:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/122984922:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396904 in tripleo "keepalived logs are not rotated properly" [Undecided,New]22:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1229849 in heat "In future native Heat templates, we should leave the image users alone on servers" [Wishlist,In progress]22:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/138706122:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1387061 in tripleo "deploy under cloud failure due to pacemaker " [Undecided,New]22:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139859122:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398591 in tripleo "metadata-proxy process is not killed when running in a virtual environment" [Undecided,In progress]22:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config/+bug/139825422:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1398254 in os-collect-config "os-collect-config can't get correct keystone v3 auth_url using keystoneclient discover" [Undecided,In progress]22:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/138748722:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1387487 in tuskar "tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui  needs authentication from Keystone" [Undecided,New]22:00
untriaged-bothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/139673022:00
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uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1396730 in tripleo "br-ex doesn't activate when overcloud controller is rebooted" [Undecided,New]22:00
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openstackgerritgreghaynes proposed openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Log directly to syslog from os services  https://review.openstack.org/13884422:12
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nibalizerdprince you are not online :(22:33
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greghaynesMaybe comment on his reviews?22:45
greghaynesIf you -1 3 times on a networking review, dprince will appear22:46
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nibalizerhaha23:30
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openstackgerritIan Wienand proposed openstack/diskimage-builder: Standarise tracing for scripts  https://review.openstack.org/11902323:38
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