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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-image-elements: Ceilometer API fails: bad rabbit_use_ssl setting https://review.openstack.org/151726 | 01:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Puppet: correct neutron metadata agents nova ip https://review.openstack.org/151904 | 02:51 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 04:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1416180 | 04:00 |
| TempLPBugBot | Launchpad bug 1416180 in diskimage-builder "Grub install fails for Debian Wheezy on Centos 7" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 04:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1396854 | 04:00 |
| TempLPBugBot | Launchpad bug 1396854 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "fail to create an instance with specific ip" (affected: 5, heat: 22) [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 04:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1415674 | 04:00 |
| TempLPBugBot | Launchpad bug 1415674 in tripleo "tripleo rabbitmq logrotate broken" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 04:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1409583 | 04:00 |
| TempLPBugBot | Launchpad bug 1409583 in tripleo "overcloud controller os-refresh-config abort because haproxy horizon failed to bind socket" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 04:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/1387487 | 04:00 |
| TempLPBugBot | Launchpad bug 1387487 in tuskar " tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui needs authentication from Keystone" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 04:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1415240 | 04:00 |
| TempLPBugBot | Launchpad bug 1415240 in diskimage-builder "package-install-v2 breaks older distros" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] - Assigned to John Dewey (retr0h) | 04:00 |
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| tchaypo | harmw: from memory os-collect-config loops permanently | 09:18 |
| tchaypo | unless you start it with —force or —one | 09:18 |
| harmw | why would it do that? | 09:20 |
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| lifeless | because the config may be changed on the server | 09:29 |
| harmw | and how would that happen? just me changing some config file? it just feels.. weird :) Should this be it, if I changed a file I'd restart the corresponding service as wll | 09:31 |
| harmw | I'm obviously missing some architectural bit here :) | 09:31 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 10:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1416180 | 10:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1396854 | 10:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1416180 in diskimage-builder "Grub install fails for Debian Wheezy on Centos 7" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 10:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1415674 | 10:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1396854 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "fail to create an instance with specific ip" (affected: 5, heat: 22) [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 10:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1415674 in tripleo "tripleo rabbitmq logrotate broken" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 10:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1409583 | 10:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1409583 in tripleo "overcloud controller os-refresh-config abort because haproxy horizon failed to bind socket" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 10:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/1387487 | 10:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1387487 in tuskar " tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui needs authentication from Keystone" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 10:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1415240 | 10:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1415240 in diskimage-builder "package-install-v2 breaks older distros" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] - Assigned to John Dewey (retr0h) | 10:00 |
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| harmw | hhe, after a week of trial&error trying to get undercloud online on my ARM platform it's finally finishe | 11:52 |
| harmw | and to slow so throwing gateway timeouts at /dashboard :P | 11:52 |
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| harmw | lets see if I can make it work in a spedy virtualbox vm | 15:04 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 16:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1416180 | 16:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1396854 | 16:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1416180 in diskimage-builder "Grub install fails for Debian Wheezy on Centos 7" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 16:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1415674 | 16:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1396854 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "fail to create an instance with specific ip" (affected: 5, heat: 22) [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 16:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1415674 in tripleo "tripleo rabbitmq logrotate broken" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 16:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1409583 | 16:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1409583 in tripleo "overcloud controller os-refresh-config abort because haproxy horizon failed to bind socket" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 16:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/1387487 | 16:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1387487 in tuskar " tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui needs authentication from Keystone" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 16:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1415240 | 16:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1415240 in diskimage-builder "package-install-v2 breaks older distros" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] - Assigned to John Dewey (retr0h) | 16:00 |
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| greghaynes | TheJulia: For the whole preserving ssh host keys, I just had an interesting idea... rather than do the horrible hack with ssh version we can do the whole host certificate thing and sign our host keys with a TLS CA | 18:33 |
| greghaynes | not super important... but yea | 18:34 |
| greghaynes | http://blog.djm.net.au/2015/02/key-rotation-in-openssh-68.html got me thinking about that | 18:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Puppet: wire in neutron_dnsmasq_options https://review.openstack.org/151937 | 18:44 |
| greghaynes | clarkb: youre going to like https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1415240 :) | 18:48 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1415240 in diskimage-builder "package-install-v2 breaks older distros" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] - Assigned to John Dewey (retr0h) | 18:48 |
| greghaynes | I know youre on a mission to kill py26 support | 18:48 |
| clarkb | ya the problem with that bug is even 12.04 doesnt work to build centos fedora | 18:51 |
| clarkb | so its a lot more nuancedthan 12.04 and up | 18:51 |
| greghaynes | I think the 12.06 and EL6+ is just what we would support as a 'build host' | 18:52 |
| greghaynes | but yea, there are combinations that dont work becuase raisins | 18:52 |
| * greghaynes is just bitter about having to support py26 | 18:52 | |
| clarkb | right but 12.04 doesnt work as a build host :) | 18:52 |
| clarkb | you can build 12.04 images though | 18:53 |
| harmw | guys, i've got a working instck undercloud now running in a virtual CentOS7 machine on my laptop | 18:54 |
| harmw | this enables me to build a cloud, but is that cloud connected in some way to the undercloud? | 18:54 |
| harmw | eg. what if I delete the undercloud vm | 18:54 |
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| tchaypo | According to http://goodsquishy.com/downloads/tripleo-jobs.html we haven’t had an f20 job pass in.. | 19:10 |
| tchaypo | 12 hours or so. I’d really like to figure out why, but I can’t because we get no seed logs | 19:10 |
| tchaypo | of course, as soon as i say that, i see the seed logs on http://logs.openstack.org/01/108801/9/check-tripleo/check-tripleo-ironic-overcloud-f20-nonha/4ce9aff/logs/ | 19:11 |
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| tchaypo | harmw: to get back to os-collect-config | 19:12 |
| tchaypo | it can pull config data from ec2 metadata sources, or from heat | 19:12 |
| tchaypo | so on each loop, it polls those sources; and if it finds a change, it calls os-refresh-config to update things | 19:13 |
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| greghaynes | tchaypo: ok, so my plan (when I am not EWEEKENDing) was to kick off a https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150954/ with a sleep 99999 in it, ssh into it in rh1 and debug why its not working | 19:13 |
| greghaynes | the only other idea is to try and check console logs but we would need to redeploy TE's for that | 19:13 |
| tchaypo | harmw: I’d point you at https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-collect-config/tree/README.rst which kinda describes this | 19:14 |
| tchaypo | but it doesn’t really mention the “running in a loop” explicitly | 19:14 |
| tchaypo | i like your plan. I think I’m off weekend sooner than you | 19:15 |
| greghaynes | Feel free to further said plan :) | 19:16 |
| greghaynes | I or derekh can offer guidance on ssh'ing into a TE given jenkins console output if you have issues there | 19:17 |
| greghaynes | its pretty easy once you have the recipe | 19:17 |
| tchaypo | that said. | 19:17 |
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| tchaypo | http://logs.openstack.org/50/140750/8/experimental-tripleo/check-tripleo-ironic-overcloud-f20-nonha/ba1b90a/logs/seed_logs/nova-compute.txt.gz | 19:17 |
| tchaypo | there are probably clues there | 19:17 |
| tchaypo | yeah, i saw some of your chat. I think I can probably go back and reconstruct it | 19:17 |
| tchaypo | if you weren’t weekending I’d nudge you about a change to https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/tripleo-ci/tree/docs/TripleO-ci.rst to give some detail about how to get into the screen session ;) | 19:18 |
| greghaynes | yea, that was on my todo list | 19:19 |
| greghaynes | (today is national sportsball day hence the actual weekending) | 19:19 |
| * tchaypo giggles about deflategate | 19:20 | |
| clarkb | which means homebrew and bbq | 19:20 |
| tchaypo | i sat in on a homebrew talk yesterday | 19:20 |
| tchaypo | i was a little surprised at first by how many of their challenges are similar to ours | 19:21 |
| tchaypo | but then i realised that we’re both basically deployment frameworks for upstream software | 19:21 |
| clarkb | current beer uses australian hops too | 19:22 |
| tchaypo | oh wait, did you mean beer? | 19:22 |
| clarkb | yes :) | 19:22 |
| clarkb | and sake | 19:23 |
| harmw | ok tchaypo thanks | 19:23 |
| tchaypo | Will samples of said beer be available in seattle? | 19:23 |
| clarkb | no I wont be in seattle | 19:23 |
| tchaypo | I was asking about the beer ;) | 19:23 |
| clarkb | and if we do our job today keg will be empty | 19:24 |
| harmw | tchaypo: could you perhaps commen on my other question as well :) | 19:24 |
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| greghaynes | haha | 19:34 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: or you just have to come down and visit pdx | 19:35 |
| greghaynes | its just a short train ride | 19:35 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: i *may* be able to fit it in on the monday or tuesday | 19:37 |
| tchaypo | harmw: I must have missed it | 19:37 |
| harmw | tchaypo: | 19:38 |
| harmw | 19:53:37 < harmw> guys, i've got a working instck undercloud now running in a virtual CentOS7 machine on my laptop | 19:38 |
| harmw | 19:54:03 < harmw> this enables me to build a cloud, but is that cloud connected in some way to the undercloud? | 19:38 |
| harmw | 19:54:14 < harmw> eg. what if I delete the undercloud vm | 19:38 |
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| clarkb | so I found out today portland has more breweries per capita than any city in the world | 19:38 |
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| tchaypo | harmw: there | 19:38 |
| tchaypo | but I’m flying out friday evening to spend a few days in SFO before finally going back to AUS | 19:38 |
| tchaypo | s a few obvious connections | 19:38 |
| greghaynes | harmw: If youre saying what I think youre saying then yes, overcloud depends on undercloud, if undercloud goes away overcloud is not happy | 19:39 |
| tchaypo | the undercloud contains things like private keys used to authenticate to the overcloud for the purposes of making things happen | 19:39 |
| harmw | indeed, indeed | 19:39 |
| tchaypo | also os-collect-config running on nodes in the overcloud is reading heat data from heat in the undercloud | 19:39 |
| harmw | ah, so there is continuous communication between under/overcloud | 19:40 |
| harmw | especially from overcloud bck to my undercloud vm | 19:40 |
| greghaynes | speaking of, I kind of want to make a way where we specify the os-collect-config collectors we expect to be present in nova metadata and then only perform o-r-c runs when they all contain valid data | 19:40 |
| greghaynes | this would make the situation where the undercloud goes away less of a "the overcloud just disappeared" and more of a "the overcloud cant be modified" | 19:41 |
| harmw | which sounds just like the thing I would be after | 19:41 |
| tchaypo | … are you saying that at present if undercloud heat goes away, the overcloud config suddenly becomes full of nulls/default values/something and gets all messed up? | 19:42 |
| harmw | b/c you named it precisely the right things | 19:42 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: yea, we do an o-r-c run with none of the cfn metadata | 19:42 |
| tchaypo | wheeeeeee | 19:42 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: which lots of the o-r-c scripts interpret in ways that mean "stop everything" | 19:42 |
| tchaypo | … do people actually use this in production? | 19:42 |
| harmw | and how about just disabling that o-r-c? | 19:42 |
| greghaynes | thats literally what tripleo-ansible does | 19:42 |
| greghaynes | well, it stops os-c-c which stops o-r-c from running in a loop | 19:43 |
| greghaynes | so yes, that is a valid strategy and we have some sucess with it | 19:43 |
| harmw | but does that diffr from manually doing sysytemctl disable os-c-c | 19:44 |
| greghaynes | that is what we do | 19:44 |
| greghaynes | (we being tripleo-ansible) | 19:44 |
| harmw | cool, so since I'm not using ansible a can achive the same result by disable that one specific service | 19:45 |
| greghaynes | so yes, you can do that, then just somehow run os-collect-config --force --one when you want to update an overcloud node | 19:45 |
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| tchaypo | If you don’t want the o-r-c loop running though | 19:46 |
| harmw | interesting, well, I'm after building a tiny cluster from where I can create instances from within just maybe 5 tenants | 19:46 |
| tchaypo | I wonder if this is a case where it makes sense to have a different config management thing happening | 19:46 |
| harmw | so thr won't be much work for undercloud aftr it has build my overcloud :) | 19:46 |
| tchaypo | probably not tripleo-puppet | 19:46 |
| tchaypo | no wait, I think I’ve had to much beer and maybe am talking nonsense. let me stew on that overnight. | 19:47 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: thats sort of the intended original design - occ and stuff behind it (or just orc) can be replaced by $config_mgmt | 19:49 |
| harmw | hm ok, so, I've added a node with tuskar ui | 19:52 |
| harmw | (why can't I specify a name?) | 19:52 |
| * greghaynes is uneducated in the ways of tuskar | 19:52 | |
| harmw | it now errors with a full screen 'oops!'-kindalikemessage when I choose power on | 19:52 |
| harmw | " | 19:53 |
| harmw | Something went wrong! | 19:53 |
| harmw | An unexpected error has occurred. Try refreshing the page. If that doesn't help, contact your local administrator. | 19:53 |
| harmw | " | 19:53 |
| harmw | greghaynes: you know how the PXE+SSH driver is supposd to work? | 19:55 |
| harmw | (a link to docs is fine as well) | 19:56 |
| tchaypo | greghaynes: I’m kinda thinking of having just OCC and stuff behind it without ORC | 19:59 |
| tchaypo | some other transport for getting the configs in place. maybe ansible. | 19:59 |
| tchaypo | hey, is that what you guys already did? | 20:00 |
| greghaynes | harmw: I dont have any great docs to link to, im also kind of in and out today so probably better to just ask the general audience ;) | 20:00 |
| harmw | sure thing :) | 20:01 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: if by you guys you mean the people who did the tripleo-ansible work then yes, basically. IIRC it makes a json for the local data collector and ships it over | 20:02 |
| greghaynes | tchaypo: the tripleo/puppet work does something similar | 20:02 |
| tchaypo | but the data is read by puppet (or hiera?) rather than o-c-c | 20:03 |
| tchaypo | harmw: so the problem I have is that I know we have a pxe+ssh driver. | 20:03 |
| tchaypo | for something. But right now the bit of my brain that has the information about it seems a bit beer-affected | 20:03 |
| harmw | hehe | 20:03 |
| greghaynes | not 100% sure but I thought o-c-c grabs metadata from heat which is then re-exposed to hiera and then a puppet run occurs | 20:04 |
| harmw | well my system doesn't have IPMI, so I'd be intresting in just some dummy driver and eventually I want to send a command to perhaps a raspberrypi driven webservice | 20:04 |
| greghaynes | make an ironic driver | 20:05 |
| greghaynes | should be as simple as that | 20:05 |
| harmw | yea | 20:05 |
| harmw | I'm currently just exploring tripleo and such | 20:05 |
| harmw | trying what's possible, what isn't and designing my cloud around that :) | 20:06 |
| harmw | I had a vm booting ironic stuff (ramdisk/kernel), but that failed because it wasn't intended to even run | 20:07 |
| harmw | ii think | 20:07 |
| harmw | so now I'm trying to do things by the book | 20:07 |
| harmw | but now dnsmsq fails to see my dhcp requests :| | 20:08 |
| harmw | eventhough they apear just fine on the br-ctrlplane | 20:08 |
| harmw | hm, why is undercloud refreshing it's own config files? I made it to log dnsmasq stuff but the corresponding bits are gone frome the cfg file after a reboot | 20:11 |
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| tchaypo | harmw: i had the same symptom a few weeks ago | 20:24 |
| tchaypo | in my case, I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145560/ fixed it for me | 20:24 |
| tchaypo | .. and now I see that needs to be rebased. blurgh. I’ll fix that tomorrow. | 20:25 |
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| tchaypo | more generally, I think that what I was seeing was that the machine running dnsmasq either wasn’t doing an arp WHO-HAS on the mac, or it was ignoring the response it got | 20:26 |
| tchaypo | I suspected it was related to rp_filter or some of the arp filtering sysctl settings but I never managed to figure out what was happening. | 20:27 |
| harmw | hm ok | 20:27 |
| greghaynes | oh, nova sets ebtables rules | 20:28 |
| greghaynes | I wonder if thats it | 20:28 |
| tchaypo | …. ffs. | 20:28 |
| tchaypo | ebtables almost certainly explains it. why did I not look there? | 20:28 |
| tchaypo | well. s/almost certainly/certainly could/ | 20:28 |
| harmw | my bridge chains are empty... | 20:29 |
| harmw | in/out/fwd | 20:29 |
| greghaynes | was helping debug the devstack multinode testing stuff and took 3 of us an hour staring at conntrack, tcpdump, and iptables-save -c before we stumbled onto ebtables | 20:29 |
| greghaynes | before finding that it was one of those "I thoght I knew how this worked... maybe I dont" moments | 20:30 |
| harmw | :) | 20:30 |
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| tchaypo | ebtables is something I’ve read about ~twice and thought “that’d be really powerful in certain situations” and then never had to touch | 20:31 |
| greghaynes | yea, it totally makes sense - its important that you cant spoof your neighbor | 20:32 |
| harmw | Chain discovery (1 references) | 20:34 |
| harmw | target prot opt source destination | 20:34 |
| harmw | DROP all -- anywhere anywhere MAC 08:00:27:6B:9C:1F | 20:34 |
| harmw | ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere | 20:34 |
| harmw | huh? would that mean undrcloud is specifically ignoring my targetnode's DHCP requests? | 20:35 |
| harmw | *deliberately | 20:35 |
| harmw | (and perhps the powr-on event will undo that DROP) | 20:35 |
| harmw | hm, ironic.conf is showing 2 [pxe] sections | 20:37 |
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| untriaged-bot | Untriaged bugs so far: | 22:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1416180 | 22:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1396854 | 22:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1416180 in diskimage-builder "Grub install fails for Debian Wheezy on Centos 7" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 22:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1415674 | 22:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1396854 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "fail to create an instance with specific ip" (affected: 5, heat: 22) [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Liyingjun (liyingjun) | 22:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1415674 in tripleo "tripleo rabbitmq logrotate broken" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 22:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1409583 | 22:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1409583 in tripleo "overcloud controller os-refresh-config abort because haproxy horizon failed to bind socket" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 22:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tuskar/+bug/1387487 | 22:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1387487 in tuskar " tripleo-image-elements/elements/tuskar-ui /os-refresh-config /post-configure.d/101-tuskar-ui needs authentication from Keystone" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] | 22:00 |
| untriaged-bot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1415240 | 22:00 |
| TempLPBugBot` | Launchpad bug 1415240 in diskimage-builder "package-install-v2 breaks older distros" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] - Assigned to John Dewey (retr0h) | 22:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-puppet-elements: Add puppet-snmp module. https://review.openstack.org/151949 | 22:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Puppet: SNMP support for undercloud ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/151950 | 22:20 |
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| lifeless | greghaynes: on review 149433 you know you can fix the commit message in gerrit ? | 22:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Add Ceph related templates needed to configure Cinder with Ceph https://review.openstack.org/137028 | 23:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates: Puppet: Implement Ceph cluster https://review.openstack.org/151960 | 23:53 |
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