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openstackgerrit | RedHat RDO CI proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: GATE CHECK for TripleO https://review.openstack.org/604293 | 00:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: WIP Specify hostname for standalone https://review.openstack.org/634836 | 00:15 |
openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Run hostname check for standalone https://review.openstack.org/634803 | 00:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/os-refresh-config master: Change openstack-dev to openstack-discuss https://review.openstack.org/622408 | 00:54 |
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openstackgerrit | James Slagle proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Remove incorrect mapped_data key from cisco ml2 hieradata https://review.openstack.org/600396 | 01:04 |
openstackgerrit | James Slagle proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Remove incorrect mapped_data key from cisco ml2 hieradata https://review.openstack.org/600396 | 01:04 |
openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: WIP Specify hostname for standalone https://review.openstack.org/634836 | 01:06 |
openstackgerrit | James Slagle proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Remove incorrect mapped_data key from cisco ml2 hieradata https://review.openstack.org/600396 | 01:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Authorize undercloud tripleo-admin user https://review.openstack.org/634616 | 01:14 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Use ssh in generated inventory for undercloud https://review.openstack.org/634617 | 01:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: step1: flatten the designate service configurations https://review.openstack.org/634845 | 01:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Ronelle Landy proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: WIP: DNM: Design new role for zuul-based reproducer https://review.openstack.org/631067 | 02:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: WIP - add --use-buildah https://review.openstack.org/634322 | 03:28 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Authorize undercloud tripleo-admin user https://review.openstack.org/634616 | 03:29 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Use ssh in generated inventory for undercloud https://review.openstack.org/634617 | 03:29 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove docker/podman from mistral-executor https://review.openstack.org/632806 | 03:29 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove python-notario package from mistral-executor image https://review.openstack.org/632807 | 03:29 |
openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: WIP - add --use-buildah https://review.openstack.org/634322 | 03:30 |
openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Revert "mistral-executor: bind-mount /var/lib/containers" https://review.openstack.org/632593 | 03:32 |
openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: WIP - kolla_builder: buildah support https://review.openstack.org/634317 | 03:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: WIP - add --use-buildah https://review.openstack.org/634322 | 03:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/paunch master: Log warnings and other paunch info to stderr https://review.openstack.org/630211 | 04:13 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: WIP - kolla_builder: buildah support https://review.openstack.org/634317 | 04:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Disable stack check and cancel update for overcloud https://review.openstack.org/634853 | 05:19 |
openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Disable stack check and cancel update for undercloud https://review.openstack.org/634853 | 05:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Quique Llorente proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Add overcloud-scripts tag to network env task https://review.openstack.org/602025 | 06:26 |
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Tengu | hello there | 06:35 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-common master: Make python uploader the default https://review.openstack.org/616019 | 06:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Liron Kuchlani proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Add ContainerImagePrepare service to ControllerStorageNfs role https://review.openstack.org/634687 | 06:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Cédric Jeanneret proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Flatten rabbitmq service - step 1 https://review.openstack.org/629120 | 06:45 |
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quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: ping | 07:07 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: Good morning | 07:07 |
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quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: About the pike and upgrade role being executed | 07:08 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: Do you know why this is passing without the review ? http://logs.openstack.org/45/560445/239/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-containers-multinode-pike/cedc2ec/ | 07:08 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: is same job but with branch_override | 07:08 |
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jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: good morning sir | 07:11 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: Hello there | 07:11 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: also playbook execution is exactly the same | 07:12 |
jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: right...so this is what I couldn't understand yesterday..why in the job you sent me were we executing the multinode-overcloud-upgrade plays...if there is no overcloud-upgrade tag...i'm going to compare both ansible-playbook calls to see if I catch the difference | 07:13 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: they are same | 07:14 |
quiquell|rover | bad one http://logs.openstack.org/48/602248/23/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-containers-multinode/a60f85a/logs/playbook_executions.log | 07:14 |
quiquell|rover | good one http://logs.openstack.org/45/560445/239/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-containers-multinode-pike/cedc2ec/logs/playbook_executions.log | 07:14 |
quiquell|rover | Let's see zuul-variables and overrides | 07:14 |
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quiquell|rover | Only difference is branch: master, branch: branch: stable/pike | 07:17 |
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quiquell|rover | I think we are running master with branch_override but not sure | 07:20 |
jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: damn..they are exactly the very same thing..I don't get it | 07:20 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: Me neither, have to be about zuul cloning different branch... | 07:20 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: going to reproduce override one | 07:20 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: don't know if tripleo-upgrade pike branch can produce this, issue is role being called | 07:21 |
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quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: Do you have som pre-task or the like ? | 07:25 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: at tripleo-upgrade ? | 07:25 |
jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: I believe not....and the playbook that calls it keeps being the same (multinode-overcloud-upgrade.yml) for all branches | 07:26 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: I mean something from tripleo-upgrade role that get executed even if conditions are false | 07:26 |
jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: I'm thinking if it won't have anything to do with the way we import the role | 07:26 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: yep something like that is bypassing conditions | 07:27 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: and the different is stuff that zuul clone I think | 07:27 |
jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: I'm going to grab some coffee to activate my neurons, brb | 07:28 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: Me do father stuff now | 07:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo master: cell_v2 multi-cell https://review.openstack.org/600588 | 07:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Export global_config for compute-only stack https://review.openstack.org/600042 | 07:47 |
openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: cell_v2 multi-cell https://review.openstack.org/600589 | 07:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo master: cell_v2 multi-cell https://review.openstack.org/600588 | 07:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Surya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/634869 | 07:50 |
openstackgerrit | Michele Baldessari proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Remove unneeded iptables mount points https://review.openstack.org/634871 | 07:55 |
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Tengu | who's up for the Validation framework call? jfrancoa florianf ccamacho gchamoul ? | 07:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Run nova_statedir_owner on every run https://review.openstack.org/634872 | 07:58 |
openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Catch directories we can not change ownership https://review.openstack.org/634873 | 07:59 |
openstackgerrit | Surya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/tripleo-image-elements master: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/634874 | 07:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo master: cell_v2 multi-cell https://review.openstack.org/600588 | 08:01 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Add stop_grace_period for heat_engine container https://review.openstack.org/634370 | 08:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Run nova_statedir_owner on every run https://review.openstack.org/634875 | 08:03 |
openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Catch directories we can not change ownership https://review.openstack.org/634876 | 08:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/pike: Run nova_statedir_owner on every run https://review.openstack.org/634877 | 08:06 |
openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/pike: Catch directories we can not change ownership https://review.openstack.org/634878 | 08:06 |
openstackgerrit | Surya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/tripleo-common-tempest-plugin master: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/634879 | 08:09 |
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quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: I think the issue is that ansible is not runing but trying to expand stuff | 08:19 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: branch_override is cloning master repos | 08:19 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: Humm wait we install tripleo-upgrade frpm RPMs ? | 08:22 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: no we clone it | 08:22 |
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openstackgerrit | mathieu bultel proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/rocky: Add verbosity level to the ansible update/upgrade run https://review.openstack.org/634882 | 08:34 |
openstackgerrit | Quique Llorente proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Use include_role for upgrade role https://review.openstack.org/634883 | 08:36 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: ^ ¿ | 08:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Gael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations master: Update generate_validations_doc.py script https://review.openstack.org/634884 | 08:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Surya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/634869 | 08:40 |
jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: sorry, I had to help with the kid. I think we had it that way (instead of import_role) because we were downloading at the beginning tripleo-upgrade inside toci_gate_test.sh, so we couldn't import_role because the role didn't exist yet | 08:42 |
jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: but I think it's now zuul who downloads the role before running the playbooks, so this makes sense. I also submitted this yesterday to avoid it will happen in the future: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634724/ | 08:43 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: ack will check, thanks ! | 08:43 |
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jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: by the way, I have reproduced the error with build-test-packages when having a depends-on some tht in the upgrades job: http://logs.openstack.org/43/634243/3/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario000-multinode-oooq-container-upgrades/a78bdff/logs/delorean_logs/35/23/3523131c130b66367477d3f53a58854f62a2bd6a_dev/rpmbuild.log.txt.gz should I ask in rdo for help? or do you have any idea what could it be? | 08:46 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: If only happends in upgrades | 08:48 |
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quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: Have to be that we are not using the correct spec file | 08:48 |
jfrancoa | quiquell|rover: ok, makes sense..I'll investigate a little further on it, thanks man | 08:48 |
quiquell|rover | jfrancoa: no problem | 08:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo master: cell_v2 multi-cell https://review.openstack.org/600588 | 08:54 |
openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Remove use of upgrade_init_command from multinode-overcloud-upgrade.yml. https://review.openstack.org/634724 | 08:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Lee Yarwood proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo master: placement: Initial extraction of the Placement service from Nova https://review.openstack.org/624335 | 09:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Copy undercloud.conf file during mistral-executor start up. https://review.openstack.org/634425 | 09:10 |
Tengu | hey folks, anyone for some push-ups with the firewall? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634403/ thank youuu :) | 09:16 |
Tengu | jfrancoa: -^^ :) | 09:17 |
jfrancoa | Tengu: done | 09:21 |
Tengu | thanks! | 09:24 |
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Tengu | jfrancoa: and indeed, that's probably not the thing I'm the most proude aboud XD | 09:24 |
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jfrancoa | Tengu: I was also giving a thought on a way to make it "nicer", but it's pretty hard to make it up :-D | 09:25 |
Tengu | jfrancoa: I've tested a lot of other solutions :/. That was the only that actually worked | 09:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Carlos Camacho proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Move UpgradeInitCommand and UpgradeInitCommonCommand to run by Ansible https://review.openstack.org/634892 | 09:28 |
openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: WIP: Split upgrade_steps_playbook into different plays. https://review.openstack.org/632469 | 09:29 |
openstackgerrit | Carlos Camacho proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Move UpgradeInitCommand and UpgradeInitCommonCommand to run by Ansible https://review.openstack.org/634892 | 09:32 |
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Tengu | bandini: hello! do you have a couple of minutes for me? | 09:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Ensure all upgrade tasks depend on a step. https://review.openstack.org/628154 | 09:49 |
openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: WIP: Split upgrade_steps_playbook into different plays. https://review.openstack.org/625890 | 09:49 |
openstackgerrit | Gael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations master: Update generate_validations_doc.py script https://review.openstack.org/634884 | 09:50 |
openstackgerrit | Natal Ngétal proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: [Core] Add limit option to manage nodes. https://review.openstack.org/634234 | 09:53 |
openstackgerrit | Quique Llorente proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Use include_role for upgrade role https://review.openstack.org/634883 | 09:59 |
openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: cell_v2 multi-cell https://review.openstack.org/600589 | 10:01 |
openstackgerrit | Arx Cruz proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: [WIP] Reuse the validate-tempest skip list in os_tempest https://review.openstack.org/634380 | 10:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Chandan Kumar proposed openstack/ansible-role-tripleo-modify-image master: [WIP] port tripleo-modify-image to py3 https://review.openstack.org/634904 | 10:19 |
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shardy | Morning all, could I get reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625078/ please? | 10:37 |
shardy | it's the final patch to fix bug #1792613 | 10:37 |
openstack | bug 1792613 in tripleo "docker-puppet tasks can only run on the primary controller role" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1792613 - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 10:37 |
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bandini | Tengu: am in an escalation atm | 10:47 |
Tengu | bandini: ok, no problem :). still struggling with rabbitmq. guess I've found something, but... well, have a nice escalation, I'll tackle my issue eitherway ;) | 10:48 |
Tengu | bandini: and if you need help, ping me. | 10:48 |
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bandini | Tengu: ack I hope to finish my work there today, then I can be a bit more helpful ;) | 10:49 |
Tengu | :) | 10:49 |
ksambor | PTAL https://review.openstack.org/#/c/593056/ it's switch to OVN as a default driver | 10:57 |
Tengu | bandini: found a clue for my issue :D | 11:00 |
Tengu | but lunch now. | 11:00 |
bandini | w00t | 11:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Catch directories we can not change ownership https://review.openstack.org/634873 | 11:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Julie Pichon proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: get_parser() should return a parser https://review.openstack.org/634914 | 11:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Quique Llorente proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Use override-checkout for stable branch jobs https://review.openstack.org/634917 | 11:28 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Move UpgradeInitCommand and UpgradeInitCommonCommand to run by Ansible https://review.openstack.org/634650 | 11:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Catch directories we can not change ownership https://review.openstack.org/634876 | 11:31 |
openstackgerrit | Martin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/pike: Catch directories we can not change ownership https://review.openstack.org/634878 | 11:31 |
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Tengu | bandini: yeah, I'd put some double-quotes though: "w00t". Now I have to find out the *why* and correct it :). | 11:37 |
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Tengu | guess I have the finger on the spot. It does itch a lot :] | 11:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Cédric Jeanneret proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Flatten rabbitmq service - step 1 https://review.openstack.org/629120 | 11:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Giulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Change NodeDataLookup type from string to json https://review.openstack.org/588640 | 11:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: flatten the fluentd service configurations https://review.openstack.org/634804 | 12:16 |
ksambor | PTAL https://review.openstack.org/#/c/593056/ it's switch to OVN as a default drive | 12:16 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: flatten the barbican service configurations https://review.openstack.org/634783 | 12:17 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: flatten the gnocchi service configurations https://review.openstack.org/634703 | 12:20 |
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beagles | bogdando, sorry wasn't ignoring you yesterday - was out sick and forgot to disconnect or set away | 12:35 |
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bogdando | beagles: no worries | 12:38 |
openstackgerrit | Cédric Jeanneret proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Flatten rabbitmq service - step 1 https://review.openstack.org/629120 | 12:45 |
Tengu | dpeacock: -^ now I should get my docker-puppet.json correctly generated - at least I have it on my lab :D | 12:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Sorin Sbarnea proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: Enable testing using ansible molecule https://review.openstack.org/613672 | 12:55 |
dpeacock | Tengu: w00t! | 12:57 |
openstackgerrit | Bogdan Dobrelya proposed openstack/tripleo-docs master: Add notes for DCN operational availability modes https://review.openstack.org/632089 | 12:57 |
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fultonj | Tengu: i'm seeing /var/run/ceph disapear on rhel8 beta after a reboot, which breaks ceph | 12:58 |
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fultonj | Tengu: have you seen directories in /var/run/ disapear in your podman/rhel8/selinux travels? | 12:59 |
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fultonj | EmilienM: ^ | 13:00 |
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Tengu | fultonj: hmm yeah, /var/run/ is usually non-persistent. | 13:00 |
Tengu | fultonj: iirc it's even a tmpfs. so services should create their tree... | 13:01 |
Tengu | fultonj: but as we have ceph in containers.... and as podman doesn't create volumes, we're not in a good state :/. | 13:01 |
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fultonj | Tengu: "services should create their tree" | 13:03 |
Tengu | fultonj: at least in /var/run ;). | 13:03 |
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fultonj | Tengu: are you doing this through some unit file tweaks? | 13:04 |
Tengu | fultonj: not yeat, we didn't have this issue earlier :/. have to think a bit about that. | 13:04 |
fultonj | Tengu: you must have solved this already, do you have an example i can borrow | 13:04 |
beagles | fultonj, fwiw yes we have similar issues with neutron - I think Tengu fixed this for us though :) | 13:04 |
Tengu | ah, the netns | 13:05 |
fultonj | thanks beagles | 13:05 |
Tengu | yeah. | 13:05 |
beagles | (with /run/netns) | 13:05 |
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fultonj | Tengu: is there a review with your fix? | 13:05 |
Tengu | right. I've created a unit file that was launched before any podman container - it basically created a temporary network namespace and dropped it, in order to ensure the directory was existing with the right SELinux stuff | 13:05 |
Tengu | fultonj: iirc, paunch distgit. lemme find it. | 13:06 |
Tengu | fultonj: https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17078/ + https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/17164/ (I'm not that used to RPM, and missed a thing in the first one, sorry) | 13:07 |
fultonj | thanks Tengu | 13:08 |
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fultonj | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html# | 13:10 |
openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: step2: flatten the designate service configurations https://review.openstack.org/634930 | 13:11 |
openstackgerrit | Bogdan Dobrelya proposed openstack/tripleo-docs master: Add notes for DCN operational availability modes https://review.openstack.org/632089 | 13:13 |
EmilienM | fultonj: hey, sorry for delay but yeah what Tengu said :) | 13:13 |
Tengu | :) | 13:13 |
fultonj | EmilienM: no problem, i think i'm good | 13:13 |
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fultonj | "RuntimeDirectory=ceph" looks like it will be sufficient | 13:18 |
Tengu | humpf... does this message ring any bells? http://paste.openstack.org/show/744556/ | 13:20 |
Tengu | fultonj: this is to be added to the systemd unit file for the ceph service(s)? | 13:20 |
fultonj | Tengu: yes | 13:20 |
fultonj | ceph-ansible manages its units | 13:20 |
Tengu | ah, good | 13:20 |
Tengu | so no patch for paunch for now then. | 13:20 |
Tengu | still.. EmilienM -^^ we might want to modify paunch so that it can accept a new setting to inject in the systemd unit for containers. | 13:21 |
fultonj | Tengu: looks like systemd has nice flags to handles these types of things | 13:21 |
fultonj | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html | 13:21 |
Tengu | fultonj: we should enable that in paunch, as it generates the systemd units | 13:22 |
fultonj | RuntimeDirectory, StateDirectory, CacheDirectory etc | 13:22 |
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Tengu | I'll create an LP to follow that. | 13:22 |
fultonj | Tengu: cool | 13:23 |
fultonj | Tengu: it's relative so RuntimeDirectory=ceph means it will create /var/run/ceph when service is started | 13:23 |
Tengu | fultonj: perfect | 13:23 |
fultonj | some people complain about systemd but this is nice | 13:24 |
Tengu | fultonj: so it should also create /run/ceph right? | 13:24 |
Tengu | as I think they are binded in some way. | 13:24 |
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fultonj | Tengu: it's relative so RuntimeDirectory=ceph means it will create /run/ceph when service is started | 13:25 |
fultonj | i meant | 13:25 |
Tengu | ah :). | 13:25 |
fultonj | see table 2 and the example with what "RuntimeDirectory=foo/bar baz" would do | 13:25 |
fultonj | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html | 13:26 |
Tengu | yep, reading while creating the issue in order to provide as much details as possible. | 13:26 |
Tengu | fultonj: (and EmilienM ): https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1814764 | 13:28 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1814764 in tripleo "Paunch: extend systemd unit flags" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:28 |
fultonj | Tengu++ | 13:30 |
Tengu | :) | 13:30 |
openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Remove use of upgrade_init_command from multinode-overcloud-upgrade.yml. https://review.openstack.org/634724 | 13:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Ensure all upgrade tasks depend on a step. https://review.openstack.org/628154 | 13:53 |
openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: WIP: Split upgrade_steps_playbook into different plays. https://review.openstack.org/625890 | 13:53 |
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weshay | You guys are in for a treat today :)) | 14:00 |
weshay | #startmeeting tripleo | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 5 14:00:28 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is weshay. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 14:00 |
* EmilienM ready for the show | 14:00 | |
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weshay | #topic agenda | 14:01 |
weshay | * Review past action items | 14:01 |
weshay | * One off agenda items | 14:01 |
weshay | * Squad status | 14:01 |
weshay | * Bugs & Blueprints | 14:01 |
weshay | * Projects releases or stable backports | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:01 | |
weshay | * Specs | 14:01 |
weshay | * open discussion | 14:01 |
weshay | Hey folks! who's around? | 14:01 |
beagles|mtg | o/ | 14:01 |
dpeacock | o7 | 14:01 |
EmilienM | who let him run the meeting? | 14:01 |
rfolco | o/ | 14:01 |
weshay | please wave to the camera :) | 14:01 |
EmilienM | are we that lost? or what | 14:01 |
owalsh | o/ | 14:01 |
panda|ko | o/ | 14:01 |
ksambor | o/ | 14:01 |
marios | o/ | 14:01 |
panda|ko | wait, what ? | 14:01 |
chkumar|ruck | \o/ | 14:01 |
matbu | o/ | 14:01 |
weshay | EmilienM, we are totally screwed.. someone gave me the keys to the car | 14:01 |
chem | o/ | 14:01 |
rascasoft | o/ | 14:01 |
weshay | lolz | 14:02 |
EmilienM | even rascasoft wants to see it :D | 14:02 |
rascasoft | :D | 14:02 |
weshay | dammit.. he's my guest speaker | 14:02 |
panda|ko | EmilienM: now I understand your popcorns | 14:02 |
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weshay | thanks for ruining that rascasoft :) | 14:02 |
rascasoft | weshay, always a pleasure | 14:02 |
fultonj | o/ | 14:02 |
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jfrancoa | o/ | 14:03 |
weshay | #topic review past action items | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "review past action items (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 14:03 | |
weshay | None :) | 14:03 |
weshay | should be an easy meeting | 14:04 |
weshay | #topic one off agenda items | 14:04 |
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weshay | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items | 14:04 |
weshay | zbr|ssbarnea, you have the first item | 14:04 |
weshay | (ssbarnea) Evaluate introduction of molecule for testing our roles: | 14:04 |
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zbr|ssbarnea | weshay: sagi proposed to discuss this during our BJ meeting after community. | 14:05 |
jrist | ohai | 14:05 |
weshay | zbr|ssbarnea, ok.. confirming I should skip it for now | 14:05 |
weshay | \/boot jrist, | 14:05 |
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jrist | :( | 14:05 |
weshay | (rfolco): CI updates on Fedora 28 containers build: The team has started reviewing build workflow, automation and CI jobs, python3 requirements and broken containers to exclude from the list.Refer to https://tree.taiga.io/project/tripleo-ci-board/epic/445 for more detail. | 14:05 |
weshay | rfolco, anything to add there? ^ | 14:05 |
rfolco | no, just an update on f28 containers build | 14:06 |
weshay | last call for one off items | 14:06 |
openstackgerrit | Arx Cruz proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: [WIP] Reuse the validate-tempest skip list in os_tempest https://review.openstack.org/634380 | 14:06 |
weshay | #topic Squad status | 14:06 |
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rfolco | and thanks to mwhahaha for the work on f28 containers | 14:06 |
weshay | mwhahaha++ | 14:06 |
weshay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ci-squad-meeting | 14:06 |
weshay | upgrade | 14:06 |
weshay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-upgrade-squad-status | 14:06 |
weshay | containers | 14:06 |
weshay | #link https://trello.com/b/S8TmOU0u/tripleo-podman | 14:06 |
weshay | integration | 14:07 |
weshay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-integration-squad-status | 14:07 |
weshay | ui/cli | 14:07 |
weshay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ui-cli-squad-status | 14:07 |
weshay | validations | 14:07 |
weshay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-validations-squad-status | 14:07 |
weshay | networking | 14:07 |
weshay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-networking-squad-status | 14:07 |
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weshay | security | 14:07 |
weshay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-security-squad | 14:07 |
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weshay | edge | 14:07 |
weshay | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-edge-squad-status | 14:07 |
weshay | Any squad wanting to bring up their status, or a topic for the general public? | 14:07 |
* weshay waits a minute | 14:07 | |
weshay | talk to me goose | 14:07 |
weshay | #topic bugs & blueprints | 14:08 |
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weshay | #link https://launchpad.net/tripleo/+milestone/stein-3 | 14:08 |
weshay | For Stein we currently have 21 (for stein-3) blueprints open in Launchpad. | 14:08 |
weshay | Bugs: 589 (0) stein-3 in Launchpad. 104 (-1) open Storyboard bugs. | 14:08 |
openstack | bug 589 in tpb (Ubuntu) "tpb is not loading the nvram module" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/589 - Assigned to Reinhard Tartler (siretart) | 14:08 |
weshay | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project_group/76 | 14:08 |
weshay | anyone have any updates on blueprints, maybe something that needs review? | 14:09 |
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weshay | #topic projects releases or stable backports | 14:10 |
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EmilienM | no updates on stable releases | 14:10 |
EmilienM | 1 month before stein-3 | 14:10 |
EmilienM | that's all I got | 14:10 |
weshay | thank you good sir.. | 14:11 |
weshay | #topic specs | 14:11 |
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weshay | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tripleo-specs+status:open | 14:11 |
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weshay | anything on all the spec's we're going to close out in stein? | 14:11 |
weshay | going once, twice... is this thing on? | 14:12 |
weshay | #topic open discussion | 14:12 |
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weshay | Anything else that folks want to bring up to the meeting? | 14:12 |
rfolco | CI community meeting (office hours) starts now at https://bluejeans.com/4113567798 - agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ci-squad-meeting | 14:13 |
weshay | thank you rfolco | 14:13 |
weshay | now presenting our guest speaker rascasoft, tell us what it's like to walk the earth as a free man :) | 14:14 |
EmilienM | actually I have a topic | 14:14 |
EmilienM | let's rename tripleo | 14:14 |
openstackgerrit | Quique Llorente proposed openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Use override-checkout for stable branch jobs https://review.openstack.org/634917 | 14:15 |
weshay | EmilienM, this may be good, any suggestions EmilienM? | 14:15 |
EmilienM | SII - Scalable Infrastructure Installer | 14:15 |
weshay | does it involve pastry? | 14:15 |
rascasoft | weshay, being free is just like being the One. No one can tell you you're the One, you just know it | 14:15 |
weshay | rascasoft++ | 14:16 |
bogdando | Director? to kill confusion at last | 14:16 |
weshay | any other suggestions? | 14:17 |
EmilienM | I was just sharing this idea, we can take it offlin | 14:17 |
weshay | no.. let's decide right now ;) | 14:17 |
fultonj | why change? | 14:17 |
EmilienM | but our installer becomes more than deploying openstack, as you all know | 14:17 |
bogdando | indeed | 14:17 |
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bogdando | and not only infrustructure | 14:18 |
fultonj | and it's not exactly using only opentack to install stuff, e.g. ansible isn't an openstack project | 14:18 |
EmilienM | and openstack on openstack isn't really in our mindset anymore (or not that much) | 14:18 |
EmilienM | so yeah | 14:18 |
EmilienM | I wasn't joking, I really believe a rename would be good | 14:18 |
weshay | and our shirts instantly become vintage classic wear | 14:18 |
bogdando | :) | 14:18 |
EmilienM | (for all credits, it all started during a beer discussion last night with rbrady) | 14:19 |
weshay | EmilienM, agree.. let's get new names submitted for ptg | 14:19 |
EmilienM | I'll propose it on the ML | 14:19 |
weshay | fan tas tic | 14:19 |
weshay | ok.. | 14:19 |
weshay | thanks for joining everyone.. anything before I close? | 14:19 |
EmilienM | everyone claps for weshay plz | 14:20 |
weshay | the honor is all mine, thank you it's been a pleasure serving the community | 14:20 |
weshay | #endmeeting tripleo | 14:20 |
*** openstack changes topic to "CI Status: GREENish | https://docs.openstack.org/tripleo-docs/latest/" | 14:20 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 5 14:20:34 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:20 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2019/tripleo.2019-02-05-14.00.html | 14:20 |
* fultonj claps | 14:20 | |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2019/tripleo.2019-02-05-14.00.txt | 14:20 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2019/tripleo.2019-02-05-14.00.log.html | 14:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Add ContainerImagePrepare service to ControllerStorageNfs role https://review.openstack.org/634687 | 14:23 |
bogdando | EmilienM: one more option to consider, pointsman. While not limited to infra-* or openstack any more , will be at least fun to have it aside of Train release | 14:24 |
openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Remove use of upgrade_init_command from multinode-overcloud-upgrade.yml. https://review.openstack.org/634724 | 14:24 |
openstackgerrit | James Slagle proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Add helper resource for converting string to map https://review.openstack.org/600713 | 14:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Ronelle Landy proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: WIP: Design new role for zuul-based reproducer https://review.openstack.org/631067 | 14:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Damien Ciabrini proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Fix generation of configs that contain password files https://review.openstack.org/633768 | 14:34 |
openstackgerrit | Cédric Jeanneret proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Flatten rabbitmq service - step 1 https://review.openstack.org/629120 | 14:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Bogdan Dobrelya proposed openstack/paunch master: Fallback to force-stop of containers https://review.openstack.org/634720 | 14:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Cédric Jeanneret proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Flatten rabbitmq service - step 1 https://review.openstack.org/629120 | 14:44 |
openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Do not pull image while tagging pcmk images in upgrade_tasks. https://review.openstack.org/634243 | 14:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: step3: flatten the neutron service configurations https://review.openstack.org/634950 | 14:55 |
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Tengu | bandini: damn, I just missed you | 15:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: step2: flatten the neutron service configurations https://review.openstack.org/630513 | 15:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-upgrade master: Default launch_sanity_workload to false. https://review.openstack.org/634961 | 15:41 |
bogdando | dsneddon__: hi, thanks for that https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1808594 , that seems like a really important to have for Neutron | 15:45 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1808594 in neutron "[RFE] Limit Geneve to within Neutron availability zones" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to usha veepuri (usha-veepuri) | 15:45 |
bogdando | and for edge cases for tripleo... | 15:46 |
cylopez | Hobbestigrou: hi, it's look CI centos / beaker broken ? I had a look on log : 2019-02-05 14:57:53.266460 | TASK [Run beaker] 2019-02-05 14:57:55.958073 | centos-7 | ERROR: Error installing bundler: 2019-02-05 14:57:55.958327 | centos-7 | bundler requires Ruby version >= 2.3.0. 2019-02-05 14:57:55.969825 | centos-7 | GET https://rubygems.org/latest_specs.4.8.gz 2019-02-05 14:57:55.969977 | centos-7 | 200 OK | 15:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Nagasai Vinaykumar Kapalavai proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Update to the ceilometer publisher list https://review.openstack.org/600843 | 15:53 |
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openstackgerrit | RedHat RDO CI proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: GATE CHECK for TripleO https://review.openstack.org/604298 | 16:00 |
openstackgerrit | RedHat RDO CI proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: GATE CHECK for TripleO https://review.openstack.org/604293 | 16:00 |
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mwhahaha | cylopez: we've had to pin some of the gem deps in puppet openstack because they've added requirements on newer ruby. It's likely that needs to ported to whatever CI system that is | 16:10 |
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mwhahaha | cylopez: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/puppet-openstack_spec_helper+status:merged see the ruby mentions | 16:10 |
cylopez | mwhahaha: got it, thx for notice | 16:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Specify hostname for standalone https://review.openstack.org/634836 | 16:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/tripleo-docs master: Document the requirement for the hostname on standalone https://review.openstack.org/634971 | 16:31 |
openstackgerrit | Alex Schultz proposed openstack/tripleo-docs master: Document the requirement for the hostname on standalone https://review.openstack.org/634971 | 16:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Carlos Camacho proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Include the DB password in a Mistral environment for creating backups and restores https://review.openstack.org/634973 | 16:33 |
openstackgerrit | Ronelle Landy proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: WIP: Design new role for zuul-based reproducer https://review.openstack.org/631067 | 16:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Jose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Do not pull image while tagging pcmk images in upgrade_tasks. https://review.openstack.org/634243 | 16:36 |
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openstackgerrit | wes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: use bindep to install rpm deps https://review.openstack.org/634329 | 16:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Change NodeDataLookup type from string to json https://review.openstack.org/588640 | 16:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Arx Cruz proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: [WIP] Reuse the validate-tempest skip list in os_tempest https://review.openstack.org/634380 | 16:50 |
openstackgerrit | Giulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Handle case change for dmidecode >= 3.1 in Ceph templates https://review.openstack.org/634220 | 16:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Giulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Change NodeDataLookup type from string to json https://review.openstack.org/634978 | 16:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Kamil Sambor proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Switch default neutron ML2 mechanism driver to OVN https://review.openstack.org/593056 | 16:57 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Create tripleo-admin user on the undercloud https://review.openstack.org/633850 | 17:18 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Export global_config for compute-only stack https://review.openstack.org/600042 | 17:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Run nova_statedir_owner on every run https://review.openstack.org/634872 | 17:43 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Catch directories we can not change ownership https://review.openstack.org/634873 | 17:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Copy undercloud.conf file during mistral-executor start up. https://review.openstack.org/634425 | 18:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Setup Ironic in Overcloud https://review.openstack.org/509728 | 18:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack-infra/tripleo-ci master: Add job for testing Ironic in the Overcloud https://review.openstack.org/582294 | 19:01 |
shardy | slagle: Hey, if you find time could you pls check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625078/ ? | 19:01 |
shardy | it's the final fix for the docker-puppet bootstrap issue we talked about some time ago | 19:01 |
shardy | hoping to land that and backport | 19:02 |
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shardy | and anyone else with some spare review-cycles :) | 19:02 |
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openstackgerrit | wes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: use bindep to install rpm deps https://review.openstack.org/634329 | 19:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-common master: Make the image pulling optional for tripleo-container-tag role. https://review.openstack.org/634239 | 19:24 |
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slagle | oh i see how it is. shardy asks me to review this: | 19:34 |
slagle | dict(coalesce($.data, []).where($ != null).select([$.get('docker_puppet_tasks'), $.get('service_name')]).where($[0] != null).select([$[0], dict($[0].keys().zip(dict(service_name=>$[1]).repeat(len($[0].keys()))))]).select($[0].mergeWith($[1])).selectMany($.items()).groupBy($[0], $[1])) | 19:34 |
slagle | no wonder he quit :) | 19:35 |
mwhahaha | sounds about right | 19:35 |
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spsurya | @cores wouls be great if you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634869/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634879/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634874/ | 19:47 |
spsurya | thanks | 19:48 |
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openstackgerrit | wes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: wget install-deps if needed https://review.openstack.org/635023 | 20:03 |
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openstackgerrit | wes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: wget install-deps if needed https://review.openstack.org/635023 | 20:41 |
openstackgerrit | wes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: use bindep to install rpm deps https://review.openstack.org/634329 | 20:41 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Run nova_statedir_owner on every run https://review.openstack.org/634875 | 20:42 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Catch directories we can not change ownership https://review.openstack.org/634876 | 20:43 |
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jidar | is network_data expected to be used only for processing templates? like in this example: http://tripleo.org/install/advanced_deployment/routed_spine_leaf_network.html#network-configuration-templates | 21:22 |
jidar | because that would be quite contrary to "11.10. ENABLING NETWORK ISOLATION WITH CUSTOM NICS" | 21:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Clean unmanaged rules pushed by iptables-services package https://review.openstack.org/634403 | 21:32 |
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jidar | another q) is SoftwareConfig still the preferred way of deploying postconfiguration changes? Like adding a cinder storage backend? | 21:45 |
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mwhahaha | no | 21:47 |
mwhahaha | it probably don't work as well with containers | 21:48 |
jidar | mwhahaha: maybe a stupid question then, how would I go about doing that? | 21:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: WIP - kolla_builder: buildah support https://review.openstack.org/634317 | 21:59 |
openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: WIP - kolla_builder: buildah support https://review.openstack.org/634317 | 22:00 |
jidar | mwhahaha: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/2213581 this might work, but I'm also required to install a python package.. wouldn't that mean the cinder container needs access to that package? | 22:01 |
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mwhahaha | jidar: yea if you need a custom package, you'll need to build a version of the container with it | 22:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Ronelle Landy proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: WIP: Design new role for zuul-based reproducer https://review.openstack.org/631067 | 22:26 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: WIP - add --use-buildah https://review.openstack.org/634322 | 22:30 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: WIP - kolla_builder: buildah support https://review.openstack.org/634317 | 22:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Emilien Macchi proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: WIP - add --use-buildah https://review.openstack.org/634322 | 22:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Change NodeDataLookup type from string to json https://review.openstack.org/634978 | 23:39 |
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