Thursday, 2019-08-01

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-ci master: Add conditional periodic-ness to tripleo jobs  https://review.opendev.org/67252800:32
openstackgerritwes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Add keycloak-setup role  https://review.opendev.org/67126200:50
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openstackgerritwes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: Add Keycloak setup to featureset039  https://review.opendev.org/67156700:54
openstackgerritwes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: Add Keycloak setup to featureset039  https://review.opendev.org/67156700:56
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openstackgerritpengyuesheng proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Bump the openstackdocstheme extension to 1.20  https://review.opendev.org/67166701:49
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openstackgerritpengyuesheng proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Bump the openstackdocstheme extension to 1.20  https://review.opendev.org/67285402:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Change NeutronMechanismDrivers in ml2-ansible environments  https://review.opendev.org/67318002:41
openstackgerritpengyuesheng proposed openstack/tripleo-puppet-elements master: Bump the openstackdocstheme extension to 1.20  https://review.opendev.org/67322502:41
openstackgerritpengyuesheng proposed openstack/paunch master: Bump the openstackdocstheme extension to 1.20  https://review.opendev.org/67376302:42
openstackgerritwes hayutin proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Add minion job  https://review.opendev.org/66235103:10
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openstackgerrityatin proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Pass deployment_options to config download  https://review.opendev.org/67386803:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove rhsm cli options  https://review.opendev.org/67384705:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Cleanup SoftwareConfigTransport  https://review.opendev.org/67334505:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Write minion preflight checks  https://review.opendev.org/67309905:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-ci master: Add multinode minion job  https://review.opendev.org/66235005:47
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openstackgerritFrancesco Pantano proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Allow to override ceph config section parameters  https://review.opendev.org/65816105:59
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openstackgerritFrancesco Pantano proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Allow to override ceph config section parameters  https://review.opendev.org/65816106:02
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openstackgerritMartin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Add docker/podman packages to nova_libvirt container  https://review.opendev.org/67330707:04
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openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Allow overrides in non global ceph.conf sections  https://review.opendev.org/65816107:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-docs master: Correcting typo in achieve spelling  https://review.opendev.org/67371907:17
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openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Allow overrides in non global ceph.conf sections  https://review.opendev.org/65816107:18
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openstackgerritChandan Kumar (raukadah) proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Move os_tempest role var at the top of play level  https://review.opendev.org/67302108:03
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openstackgerritNatal Ngétal proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: [Core] Be pep8 compliant.  https://review.opendev.org/63424108:09
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openstackgerritMartin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: [rocky/queens] fix task name nova_api -> nova_compute  https://review.opendev.org/67395208:20
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openstackgerritMichele Baldessari proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Make ipmi lanplus the default in auto fencing  https://review.opendev.org/67395508:29
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openstackgerritgongysh proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: support conductor group feature in ironic conductor  https://review.opendev.org/67395608:48
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openstackgerritCarlos Camacho proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Add playbook to stop containers  https://review.opendev.org/66965008:57
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openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Clarify the at most once semantics for puppets  https://review.opendev.org/67386709:02
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openstackgerritCarlos Goncalves proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: Reduce yum-minimal based OS install size footprint  https://review.opendev.org/67232909:19
openstackgerritGabriele Cerami proposed openstack/ansible-role-container-registry master: [WIP] expand login subtasks so it can be used in all rdo jobs  https://review.opendev.org/67348109:22
openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/stein: Fix generating Apache configs by container-puppet  https://review.opendev.org/67125409:22
openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Pacemaker resource upgrade tasks compatible with staged upgrade  https://review.opendev.org/67345609:23
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openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo stable/stein: Allow to configure Apache MPM module  https://review.opendev.org/67397409:25
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openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/stein: Wire-in Apache MPM module parameters and switch it  https://review.opendev.org/67397809:30
openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Pacemaker resource upgrade tasks compatible with staged upgrade  https://review.opendev.org/67345609:36
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/stein: Add plan parameter to run_ansible_playbook function  https://review.opendev.org/67398209:39
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/stein: Don't use local connection by default for the validations  https://review.opendev.org/67398309:39
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/stein: Use static inventory YAML file for saving execution time  https://review.opendev.org/67398409:39
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/stein: Add gathering_policy parameter to run_ansible_playbook function  https://review.opendev.org/67398509:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/puppet-tripleo stable/stein: Allow for customization of the Manila CephFS pool name  https://review.opendev.org/67392709:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/stein: ceph-base: Disable ceph-ansible firewall tasks  https://review.opendev.org/67389409:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Transport ManilaCephFSDataPoolName to Manila CephFS template  https://review.opendev.org/67154109:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-upgrade stable/stein: Migrate from with_X loop.  https://review.opendev.org/67379209:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-upgrade stable/stein: Upgrade undercloud.conf with the right parameters  https://review.opendev.org/67379409:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-upgrade stable/stein: Drop MongoDB service from custom roles_data.  https://review.opendev.org/67378609:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-upgrade stable/stein: Remove check for openvswitch package.  https://review.opendev.org/67379109:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-upgrade stable/stein: Replace git.openstack.org URLs with opendev.org URLs  https://review.opendev.org/67379509:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-common master: Fix ansible-generate-inventory action  https://review.opendev.org/67385009:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-common master: Add deployment_options input to config_download workflow  https://review.opendev.org/67386209:41
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/stein: Mock deployment action in upgrade tests  https://review.opendev.org/67398609:42
openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Allow overrides in non global ceph.conf sections  https://review.opendev.org/65816109:49
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Correct "repos" validation and adds Molecule tests  https://review.opendev.org/67399310:31
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Enable fact gathering for needed validations  https://review.opendev.org/67399410:34
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Matches updates for ceph-ansible variables name change  https://review.opendev.org/66190710:45
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/stein: Upgrade fixes for RabbitMQ and Pacemaker  https://review.opendev.org/67055510:45
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: New validation: ensure services status  https://review.opendev.org/67399511:01
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Add molecule testing on undercloud-debug role  https://review.opendev.org/67399611:03
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds Molecule to haproxy validation role  https://review.opendev.org/67399711:04
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule testing for controller-ulimits  https://review.opendev.org/67399811:04
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule testing for controller-token  https://review.opendev.org/67399911:05
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule testing for DNS validation  https://review.opendev.org/67400011:05
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule tests for undercloud-disk-space  https://review.opendev.org/67400111:06
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule tests for ctlplane-ip-range validation  https://review.opendev.org/67400211:07
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule tests for ctlplane-ip-range validation  https://review.opendev.org/67400211:10
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Corrected how hiera is installed  https://review.opendev.org/67400411:10
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Removed set_nodes_state, a unused utility function  https://review.opendev.org/67400511:14
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove wait_for_provision_state, a unused utility function  https://review.opendev.org/67400611:17
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d0ugalAnyone familiar with this code in tripleo-common? https://github.com/openstack/python-tripleoclient/blob/master/tripleoclient/workflows/package_update.py#L108-L18011:31
d0ugalIt doesn't seem to be used anywhere. Can I delete it? :)11:31
d0ugalhttp://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=converge_nodes&i=nope&files=&repos=11:32
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openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack/tripleo-ci master: Dump all hostvars to files  https://review.opendev.org/67382911:35
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Removed set_nodes_state, a unused utility function  https://review.opendev.org/67400511:36
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove wait_for_provision_state, a unused utility function  https://review.opendev.org/67400611:36
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove download_ansible_playbooks, a unused util function  https://review.opendev.org/67401011:36
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove get_overcloud_passwords, a unused function  https://review.opendev.org/67401111:36
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove _get_default_role_counts, a unused function  https://review.opendev.org/67401211:36
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove run_shell, a unused function  https://review.opendev.org/67401311:36
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove all_unique, a unused utility function  https://review.opendev.org/67401411:36
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove converge_nodes functions, unused package_update code  https://review.opendev.org/67401511:36
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openstackgerritNir Magnezi proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: CI should auto-generate server_certs_key_passphrase  https://review.opendev.org/66985411:42
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openstackgerritNir Magnezi proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: CI should auto-generate server_certs_key_passphrase  https://review.opendev.org/66985411:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/paunch master: Generate addition drop-in dependencies for podman containers  https://review.opendev.org/66994111:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Generate addition drop-in dependencies for podman containers  https://review.opendev.org/66991011:48
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openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Allow overrides in non global ceph.conf sections  https://review.opendev.org/65816111:52
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fultonjgfidente: would you please review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673920 ?12:03
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations master: Simplifying the check of the latest package version validation  https://review.opendev.org/67275112:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: [rocky/queens] fix task name nova_api -> nova_compute  https://review.opendev.org/67290012:38
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Add Molecule tests for the role undercloud-ram.  https://review.opendev.org/66989812:48
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Add Molecule tests for the role xfs-check-ftype.  https://review.opendev.org/67002812:48
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Make Verify the RAM requirements task failing again  https://review.opendev.org/67102012:48
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Correct "repos" validation and adds Molecule tests  https://review.opendev.org/67399312:51
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Add molecule testing on undercloud-debug role  https://review.opendev.org/67399612:52
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds Molecule to haproxy validation role  https://review.opendev.org/67399712:52
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule testing for controller-ulimits  https://review.opendev.org/67399812:52
openstackgerritGabriele Cerami proposed openstack/ansible-role-container-registry master: [WIP] expand login subtasks so it can be used in all rdo jobs  https://review.opendev.org/67348112:53
weshayhrybacki howdy12:53
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule testing for controller-token  https://review.opendev.org/67399912:53
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule testing for DNS validation  https://review.opendev.org/67400012:53
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule tests for undercloud-disk-space  https://review.opendev.org/67400112:54
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule tests for ctlplane-ip-range validation  https://review.opendev.org/67400212:54
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Corrected how hiera is installed  https://review.opendev.org/67400412:55
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openstackgerritJohn Fulton proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Improve local_ceph_ansible_fetch_directory_backup error msg  https://review.opendev.org/67392013:00
openstackgerritJohn Fulton proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Improve local_ceph_ansible_fetch_directory_backup error msg  https://review.opendev.org/67392013:01
openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Add minion job  https://review.opendev.org/66235113:10
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openstackgerritSlawek Kaplonski proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Add playbook and role to run tobiko  https://review.opendev.org/65542313:15
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hrybackimorning weshay13:16
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openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Import Hiera roles  https://review.opendev.org/67336413:23
openstackgerritRafael Folco proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: Generate fs matrix from source yaml files  https://review.opendev.org/67300513:25
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openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove wait_for_provision_state, a unused utility function  https://review.opendev.org/67400613:34
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove download_ansible_playbooks, a unused util function  https://review.opendev.org/67401013:34
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove get_overcloud_passwords, a unused function  https://review.opendev.org/67401113:34
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove _get_default_role_counts, a unused function  https://review.opendev.org/67401213:34
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove run_shell, a unused function  https://review.opendev.org/67401313:34
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove all_unique, a unused utility function  https://review.opendev.org/67401413:34
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove converge_nodes functions, unused package_update code  https://review.opendev.org/67401513:34
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Remove converge_nodes functions, unused package_update code  https://review.opendev.org/67401513:35
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove unused function _images_match  https://review.opendev.org/67403513:45
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove the logging to Swift custom Mistral actions  https://review.opendev.org/67403713:50
hrybackiEmilienM: question for changes we know will require backports across stable branches. Do we have to wait for each release N+1 to merge before cherry-picking back to N. Or, do we cherry-pick each from Master after it merges?13:50
EmilienMit's always better to wait13:52
EmilienMif there are depends-on, it'll block until every depends-on merge (and their backports too...)13:53
EmilienMi always suggest to wait that everything lands on master13:53
EmilienMthen backport on stein, then on rocky, etc13:53
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openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Adds molecule tests for ctlplane-ip-range validation  https://review.opendev.org/67400214:02
openstackgerritGael Chamoulaud proposed openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: Corrected how hiera is installed  https://review.opendev.org/67400414:02
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mwhahaharfolco|ruck: why https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1838631? the logs are from a patch (which causes those failures)14:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1838631 in tripleo "overcloud deploy: Error in 38 output role_data" [Critical,Triaged]14:07
rfolco|ruckmwhahaha, oops14:08
mwhahahawe can blame bandini though14:08
mwhahahawhich is always a bonus14:08
rfolco|ruckmwhahaha, I apologize, I knew it was in check but I made confusion with other patch that was seen in multiple places14:09
mwhahahait's all good14:09
rfolco|ruckother bug*14:09
rfolco|ruckmwhahaha, marking as invalid thx for pinging14:09
mwhahahai got it14:09
mwhahahathanks tho just checking :014:09
rfolco|ruckthank you14:10
rfolco|ruckmwhahaha, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1838633 maybe a real issue though14:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1838633 in tripleo "[nova placement] no version was discoverable" [Critical,Triaged]14:10
mwhahahaindeed14:11
bandinimwhahaha: you would, of course, not be wrong o/14:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Move os_tempest role var at the top of play level  https://review.opendev.org/67302114:19
openstackgerritRafael Folco proposed openstack/tripleo-ci master: Vote and gate on containers-multinode-branchful jobs  https://review.opendev.org/67384214:21
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openstackgerritJose Luis Franco proposed openstack/tripleo-upgrade master: WIP: Enable system upgrade and upgrade run per host.  https://review.opendev.org/67405014:30
openstackgerritBrent Eagles proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Add scenario 10 (octavia) job to queens  https://review.opendev.org/67405114:30
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openstackgerritNir Magnezi proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: CI should auto-generate server_certs_key_passphrase  https://review.opendev.org/66985414:34
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openstackgerritBrent Eagles proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Add scenario 10 (octavia) job to queens  https://review.opendev.org/67405114:37
openstackgerritNir Magnezi proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: CI should auto-generate server_certs_key_passphrase  https://review.opendev.org/66985414:41
openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Add kernel tuning role  https://review.opendev.org/67405414:42
openstackgerritMartin Schuppert proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Fix swift-proxy healthcheck  https://review.opendev.org/67405514:43
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openstackgerritJiri Stransky proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Pacemaker resource upgrade tasks compatible with staged upgrade  https://review.opendev.org/67345614:44
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openstackgerritGiulio Fidente proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Revert "Matches updates for ceph-ansible variables name change"  https://review.opendev.org/67405614:47
openstackgerritwes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: WIP: allow external ansible role for 3rd party job  https://review.opendev.org/67392614:52
openstackgerritwes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Add keycloak-setup role  https://review.opendev.org/67126214:52
openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Add kernel tuning role  https://review.opendev.org/67405414:54
openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Use puppet tasks to configure Apache MPM  https://review.opendev.org/67405814:54
openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Add kernel tuning role  https://review.opendev.org/67405414:58
openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Convert kernel-baremetal-puppet to ansible  https://review.opendev.org/67406014:59
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove the unused and deprecated UploadTemplatesAction  https://review.opendev.org/67406215:00
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove the file exists action and save and restore to swift actions  https://review.opendev.org/67406315:00
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove the unused tripleo.plan.gather_roles Mistral action  https://review.opendev.org/67406415:00
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove the unused tripleo.plan.update_plan_environment Mistral action  https://review.opendev.org/67406515:00
openstackgerritDougal Matthews proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Remove the unused tripleo.plan.update_from_dir Mistral action  https://review.opendev.org/67406615:00
ade_leemwhahaha, ping -- any chance you could help me troubleshoot an install?15:01
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mwhahahaade_lee: i've got meetings for the next hour or so15:01
mwhahahabut if you send me info i can look at it in a bit15:02
ade_leemwhahaha, sure -- I'll do that in a pm15:02
ade_leethanks15:02
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triple-oh-n00bIs network isolation a hard thing for /everyone/ to wrap their head around.. or just me?15:03
mwhahahais not just you15:03
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triple-oh-n00boh good. I think my brain is going to melt. Been at it all day.15:04
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triple-oh-n00b"Unknown property ExternalInterfaceDefaultRoute" after trying to follow the docs. Is this common? I even put it there manually, and still seems to ignore it.15:05
triple-oh-n00b(Stack update)15:05
triple-oh-n00b```it's not just you.```  -or-  ```it's not. Just you. ```15:06
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ade_leebandini, ping - can you help me troubleshoot a failed install ?15:11
openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo master: Add missing base apache configs when internal TLS  https://review.opendev.org/67406915:11
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openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Use puppet tasks to configure Apache MPM  https://review.opendev.org/67405815:13
openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya (bogdando) proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Clarify the at most once semantics for puppets  https://review.opendev.org/67386715:16
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triple-oh-n00bWhy is the deployment complaining of this value, when it's not a parameter that's used in my network templates?15:24
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triple-oh-n00bI define ExternalInterfaceRoutes in my nic-configs/controller.yaml15:25
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bandiniade_lee: sure pm access15:30
bandinii just need to run a super-quick errand15:30
ade_leebandini, I'm pm for you . mwhahaha is looking right now and said it might be related to pidone ..15:31
bandiniIMPOSSIBLE WE ARE BUG FREE ALL THE TIME15:31
* bandini runs away15:31
fultonj11:31  bandini: IMPOSSIBLE WE ARE BUG FREE ALL THE TIME15:31
fultonjso much VALUE!15:31
bandinirotfl15:31
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openstackgerritCarlos Camacho proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Role Extra Config Post hook points to the wrong Heat resource.  https://review.opendev.org/67407515:34
openstackgerritwes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: WIP: allow external ansible role for 3rd party job  https://review.opendev.org/67392615:35
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openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Allow passing an agent-name as a command line argument  https://review.opendev.org/58730515:38
triple-oh-n00bOkay. So, let me ask a few basic questions, and if people are able to help, that's awesome.15:40
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triple-oh-n00bnetwork-isolation.. If I JUST define a management network in this (a network the hardware can use for internet traffics and such)15:41
triple-oh-n00bI assume the provisioning network remains untouched?15:41
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triple-oh-n00b(simple vlan, same nicX)15:42
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mwhahahait all depends on what you define for your nic configs along witht he network isolation bits15:42
mwhahahabut yes you would map this network to a different interface/vlan15:42
mwhahahathe whole point of network isolation is to define the networks and map them to different interfaces (physical or vlan)15:43
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triple-oh-n00bYup. I have defined the standard networks (ceph storage, ceph management, internal api, etc etc) and there's one called "Management" that I am also looking to use.15:44
triple-oh-n00bI have defined that in here (network_data) also.15:44
triple-oh-n00b(confusingly, the management network states: "Management is enabled by default...")15:45
triple-oh-n00bBut not included in any of the roles.15:45
triple-oh-n00bSo... in the roles.yaml I have inserted: networks: \Management: \subnet: management_subnet15:46
triple-oh-n00b(I mean, I have no idea if this will/could even work)15:47
triple-oh-n00bfor all the roles.15:47
triple-oh-n00b(Left the remaining config in tact)15:47
mwhahahayea should be fine15:47
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triple-oh-n00bOkay cool. Something else I have added in the controller roles, is the default_route_networks: ['Management'] in the hope this will make it the default route (ie: When grabbing the docker images when deploying)15:49
triple-oh-n00b... this now seems a little insane, whereas this morning it made sense to me)15:49
triple-oh-n00b(the provisioning network does not have internet access)15:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Allow passing an agent-name as a command line argument  https://review.opendev.org/58730515:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Introduce trivial helpers to manage image_files and names  https://review.opendev.org/58730615:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Always define properties for image even if empty  https://review.opendev.org/58730715:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Add --architecture support when uploading images  https://review.opendev.org/58730815:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Add --platform support when uploading images  https://review.opendev.org/58730915:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Actually use the arch and platform to select appropriate images  https://review.opendev.org/58731015:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Switch to using assert_has_calls() instead of assertEqual()  https://review.opendev.org/58731115:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Always set a hardware architecture on uploaded images  https://review.opendev.org/58731215:49
openstackgerritTrevor Vardeman proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/queens: Fixup hard-coded hw_architecture in unittest  https://review.opendev.org/58812815:49
triple-oh-n00bThe other roles do not have this value. So perhaps I misunderstand it's meaning, and indeed it should be set the "External" as this is where Horizon will likely live and need to be accessed)15:51
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mwhahahai don't think management is used for any services, you would have to move services to it via servicenetmap if you wanted to put something on there15:52
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triple-oh-n00bhmmm. I wish I knew what that was. My intentions are to have a separate "provisioning" network from tripleo from a "Management" network that allows connectivity from within the business to the respective nodes (and this network also permits internet connectivity)15:54
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triple-oh-n00bIs there a better way to accomplish this? Or would usual practice suggest using the provirioning network /as/ the management network?15:55
triple-oh-n00b*provisioning15:55
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/stein: Transport ManilaCephFSDataPoolName to Manila CephFS template  https://review.opendev.org/67408416:00
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triple-oh-n00bBah. I see the ExternalInterfaceDefaultRoute defined in the /generated.../network/external.yaml file16:08
triple-oh-n00bWonder if this is even called :-/16:09
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mwhahahai think most folks use the ctl plane network (provisioning) for management16:14
mwhahahaunless you specifically want to define yet another management network for something16:14
triple-oh-n00baye. In the past I have done the same thing. However, it was suggested that to have provisioning and management separate is good practice. My life would be simpler right now.16:15
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cloudnullwas there a recent change to the standalone jobs, or container image prepare ?16:18
cloudnullseems we're seeing https://logs.opendev.org/20/673920/4/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario004-standalone/59f618e/logs/undercloud/home/zuul/standalone_deploy.log.txt.gz#_2019-08-01_14_00_03 across the board16:18
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mwhahahacloudnull: https://logs.opendev.org/20/673920/4/check/tripleo-ci-centos-7-scenario004-standalone/59f618e/logs/undercloud/var/log/tripleo-container-image-prepare.log.txt.gz?level=ERROR16:18
mwhahaha401 error16:18
mwhahahait's a known bug but we don't have a cause/fix16:18
cloudnulloh, that's exciting16:19
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triple-oh-n00bto this value that's missing... "ExternalInterfaceDefaultRoute"... this IS defined in the external.yaml file in the generated heat templates I created from network_data and roles_data, but it doesn't seem to be being called from anywhere in the network-environments-overrides.yaml16:21
cloudnullmwhahaha port 8082 is the infra reverse proxy for docker - https://opendev.org/opendev/system-config/src/branch/master/playbooks/roles/mirror/templates/mirror.vhost.j2#L357-L358 - have we got them involved to investigate that ?16:24
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mwhahahai don't think the 401 is coming from the proxy16:25
cloudnulli know they just recently did a switch to their new ansible mirror setup, maybe something old still running causing the conflict s?16:25
cloudnullok16:25
mwhahahabut feel free to troubleshoot it with them16:25
cloudnullok16:26
mwhahahai've only really seen it on ovh but if you try and pull that sha256, it 404s16:26
mwhahahabut i may have tried to fetch tehw rong thing16:26
cloudnullwhen i curl - `curl -D - http://mirror.bhs1.ovh.openstack.org:8082/v2/tripleomaster/centos-binary-nova-compute/blobs/sha256:2efded40b28a63edb701aef3f646be560c1d938199334b173f496db2ca7285b1 ` I get a 401, is there some payload tripleoclient or secret stored in infra that we send when pulling that image?16:28
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cloudnullso according to infra, it looks like docker requires auth, even when doing an anonymous translation so the suspicion is that the token we have is expiring.16:38
openstackgerritSagi Shnaidman proposed openstack/tripleo-ci master: DNM: Remove image path definitions from OVB settings file  https://review.opendev.org/67389116:38
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cloudnullsshnaidm ^ I guess you were looking into the same thing a bit ago ?16:39
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sshnaidmcloudnull, well, as we looked with EmilienM I think - it's not really the case16:40
sshnaidmcloudnull, we don't auth with docker and it mostly works in all jobs16:40
sshnaidmcloudnull, it fails only sometimes in ovh proxy only, which looks for me as pure proxy problem..16:41
sshnaidmcloudnull, but couldn't confirm this unfortunately, happens rarely16:41
cloudnullit looks like it only fails on ovh16:42
cloudnullhttp://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=(message:%20%5C%22FAILED%20with%20status:%20137%5C%22%20OR%20message:%20%5C%22FAILED%20with%20status:%20143%5C%22%20OR%20message:%20%5C%22RUN%20END%20RESULT_TIMED_OUT%5C%22)%20AND%20NOT%20message:%5C%22POST-RUN%20END%20RESULT_TIMED_OUT%5C%22%20AND%20tags:%20%5C%22console%5C%22%20AND16:42
cloudnull%20voting:1&from=864000s16:42
cloudnullhttp://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=(message%3A%20%5C%22401%20Client%20Error%3A%20Unauthorized%5C%22)%20AND%20tags%3A%20%5C%22console%5C%22%20AND%20voting%3A1%20AND%20(project%3A%20*tripleo*)16:45
cloudnullbetter query ^16:45
sshnaidmcloudnull, yep, it's what we saw too16:45
weshayI've seen  the ovh proxy killing a lot of jobs on container pulls16:46
sshnaidmcloudnull, so I'm inclined to blame ovh and their proxy16:46
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weshayusually that kind of stuff resolves..  it's not the case atm, but sometimes we promote containers for a release multiple times a day and that throws things off16:46
weshaylast 8 gate failures were ovh http://dashboard-ci.tripleo.org/d/YRJtmtNWk/cockpit?orgId=1&fullscreen&panelId=6116:47
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cloudnullhttp://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=(message:%20%5C%22401%20Client%20Error:%20Unauthorized%5C%22)%20AND%20tags:%20%5C%22console%5C%22%20AND%20voting:1%20AND%20(project:%20*tripleo*)16:50
cloudnullover the last week its failed 116 times, all in ovh16:50
openstackgerritwes hayutin proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras master: Add keycloak-setup role  https://review.opendev.org/67126216:51
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openstackgerritDamien Ciabrini proposed openstack/paunch stable/stein: Generate addition drop-in dependencies for podman containers  https://review.opendev.org/67409016:53
openstackgerritBrent Eagles proposed openstack/tripleo-quickstart master: Add support for running tempest against Octavia featuresets  https://review.opendev.org/66966616:58
openstackgerritBrent Eagles proposed openstack/tripleo-ci master: Change featurset for octavia standalone to support full tempest  https://review.opendev.org/66974016:59
triple-oh-n00bNow i'm greeted with "Action tripleo.parameters.update execution failed: Error validating environment for plan overcloud: ERROR: Internal Error" when trying to deploy :(16:59
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openstackgerritGoutham Pacha Ravi proposed openstack/puppet-tripleo stable/rocky: Allow for customization of the Manila CephFS pool name  https://review.opendev.org/67409317:07
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openstackgerritDamien Ciabrini proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/stein: Generate addition drop-in dependencies for podman containers  https://review.opendev.org/67409417:11
openstackgerritRafael Folco proposed openstack/tripleo-ci master: Vote and gate on containers-multinode-branchful jobs  https://review.opendev.org/67384217:12
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openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Change exception retry condition  https://review.opendev.org/67409717:25
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triple-oh-n00bStupid question: additional (network isolation) networks with dhcp config. Does the tripleo server assign this? If so, does it create dhcp listeners on the ovs and listens to requests -or- does it assign them from a pool internally?17:28
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cloudnullsshnaidm|afk weshay mwhahaha ^ that should force those methods to retry. which based on the conversation I had with infra, should satisfy the need to retry on failure. if we continue to see the 401 with that in place we'll have what we need to get a more thorough investigation going on that mirror/proxy17:29
mwhahahaThey already retry17:30
mwhahahaLook in the logs17:30
mwhahahaIt 401s 5 times17:30
weshayheh.. thanks17:31
cloudnullwe need it to reauth17:31
weshayneed what to reauth?17:31
cloudnulllooking at the code I think it attempts to stream the layer 5x then fails17:32
cloudnullmaybe something to do with nested exceptions ?17:32
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cloudnulland nested retry decorators ?17:32
cloudnullhttps://github.com/openstack/tripleo-common/blob/master/tripleo_common/image/image_uploader.py#L94817:33
cloudnullwe need that to fire again17:33
cloudnullIt seems like it gets here - https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-common/blob/master/tripleo_common/image/image_uploader.py#L988 - which takes the session attempts the upload and eventually fails.17:35
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mwhahahacloudnull: we don't auth17:42
mwhahahacloudnull: these are all public images17:42
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cloudnullit looks like we do https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-common/blob/master/tripleo_common/image/image_uploader.py#L349-L38417:45
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cloudnullseems the docker api requires a token, even when using public images.17:45
cloudnullthat method would return a token even if the user was set to None17:45
* mwhahaha shrugs17:47
mwhahahaauth would be None there17:47
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cloudnullwithout dumping the headers its hard to say what is actually being set, but something is being defined as headers['Authorization'] ?17:50
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mwhahahacould try turning debugging up on the image uploader to get requests to debug17:51
mwhahahai mean it's worth a try17:52
mwhahaha(your patch that is)17:52
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cloudnull++ that's a good idea. I'll try and give debug a spin to see we can find anything else out17:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/stein: Clean docker and podman after executing an update or upgrade  https://review.opendev.org/67047818:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Fix logging for metrics_qdr  https://review.opendev.org/64358418:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Pass deployment_options to config download  https://review.opendev.org/67386818:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-common stable/queens: Ensure that OctaviaServerCertsKeyPassphrase is 32-byte long  https://review.opendev.org/66982918:01
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: Adds constraint: OctaviaServerCertsKeyPassphrase must be 32 chars long  https://review.opendev.org/66984818:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Introduce tripleo-config role  https://review.opendev.org/66967218:13
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cloudnullI slammed together a simple test using methods that mimic what our uploader is doing - https://pasted.tech/pastes/0a897a677312f3acf81d59e92128e3ef7896682318:24
openstackgerritRonelle Landy proposed openstack/tripleo-ci master: Add to_build as an acceptable feastureset_override  https://review.opendev.org/67380818:24
cloudnullseems the token will expire in 300 seconds18:25
cloudnullmaybe we can set the expire time ?18:25
* cloudnull doesn't know the docker api very well 18:25
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openstackgerritEmilien Macchi proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: WIP - prototype to generate Glance config with Ansible but keep Puppet  https://review.opendev.org/67319018:39
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openstackgerritHarry Rybacki proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Fix broken metadata_settings for redis templates  https://review.opendev.org/67410618:46
fultonjcloudnull: fwiw, i was under the impression that even non-auth'ing v2 registries implemented not authing by just granting a token to anyone.18:48
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openstackgerritAlex Schultz proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Close resources correctly  https://review.opendev.org/67410718:49
EmilienMhrybacki: is it a cherry-pick https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674106/ ?18:49
hrybackiEmilienM: no -- the issue was fixed (probably by accident) during the great template shift from Rocky to Stein18:50
hrybackiI /did not/ cherry-pick it right away to queens ;)18:50
EmilienMhrybacki: can you find the patch that fixed it in Stein?18:51
hrybackimmm I can try18:53
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hrybackiEmilienM: so it looks like the big shfit happened here: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/commit/47ec1089a58ac8c3b6d1911a213dbb54b848a06d19:01
hrybackistill hunting for the fix metadata_settings in redis-container-puppet that pulled out the bad getatter19:02
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hrybackiEmilienM: found it. It's a combination of ^^ and https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-heat-templates/commit/9799dd549e81ee00632b8f73f272088239549015#diff-3983eff5b7d9b07450d5f3587ebae10119:03
EmilienMhrybacki: ok, do you mind explaining in the commit message (already very great) that this is a rocky only patch because X and Y reasons. Thanks19:04
EmilienMit helps maintainers19:04
hrybackiEmilienM: on it19:05
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openstackgerritFrancesco Pantano proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Allow overrides in non global ceph.conf sections  https://review.opendev.org/65816119:10
openstackgerritHarry Rybacki proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/rocky: Fix broken metadata_settings for redis templates  https://review.opendev.org/67410619:11
hrybackiEmilienM: done -- and linked specific reviews19:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-heat-templates stable/queens: [rocky/queens] fix task name nova_api -> nova_compute  https://review.opendev.org/67395219:14
EmilienMhrybacki: thx19:14
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triple-oh-n00bIf I added some disks after introspection, do I need to re-introspect a node? Or will a deploy pick it up? :-/19:16
triple-oh-n00b(sorry, knwo you guys are busy)19:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-tripleoclient stable/stein: Mock deployment action in upgrade tests  https://review.opendev.org/67398619:20
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cloudnullfultonj it looks like it does grant a token to anyone, using creds or not.19:28
fultonjcloudnull: ok, yeah. i assume that's why you see auth stuff even if you're not authing.19:29
cloudnullits just that the token expires in 300 seconds19:29
cloudnulland I've not found a way via the auth api to request that be longer.19:30
fultonji guess they assume every container can be downloaded in <5 minutes19:31
fultonjcloudnull: which repos is this? docker.io ?19:31
cloudnulltripleomaster/centos-binary-nova-compute/blobs/sha256:2efded40b28a63edb701aef3f646be560c1d938199334b173f496db2ca7285b119:32
cloudnullthe 401 we're seeing is on image upload19:32
cloudnulland it only happens when running on ovh nodes.19:33
cloudnullwhich I suspect are far away from wherever docker.io is19:33
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VorrtexHey all, I've been digging into the ticket backlog of late, and was curious if there was a specific process to worry about when trying to determine a ticket's validity when concerning quite old tickets.  As of right now, I've dropped a comment on a couple with a little information in each, but is there a status to change them to for re-verification or something?19:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-validations stable/stein: New validation: ensure services status  https://review.opendev.org/67399519:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/tripleo-ansible master: Updates old references to ceph_docker_* ansible variables  https://review.opendev.org/67347820:06
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openstackgerritHarry Rybacki proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Point InternalTLSVncCAFile to /etc/ipa/ca.crt  https://review.opendev.org/67374920:27
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openstackgerritJohn Fulton proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Switch scenario010-multinode-containers to bluestore  https://review.opendev.org/67354521:15
triple-oh-n00bhmm. openstack baremetal rebuild <uuid> doesn't seem to do what it's supposed to :-/21:17
triple-oh-n00b(If I assume "supposed to" correctly)21:17
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triple-oh-n00bCan I unattach the "server" from the node, delete the node, reintrospect and then re-deploy to it?21:20
triple-oh-n00bafter a "rebuild" of the node, the pxe boot says there's no image for it to get to deploy.21:20
triple-oh-n00b(I destroyed the RAID on it) :-/21:21
triple-oh-n00bI shall try an introspection reprocess.21:22
* triple-oh-n00b stabs wildly in the dark.21:22
triple-oh-n00bRed screen of death. Interesting.21:23
openstackgerritJohn Fulton proposed openstack/tripleo-heat-templates master: Switch scenario010-multinode-containers to bluestore  https://review.opendev.org/67354521:23
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openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/tripleo-common master: Add reauthentication to sessions  https://review.opendev.org/67409721:25
cloudnullfultonj mwhahaha hopefully that will get the session to get a new token in the event of a 40121:26
mwhahahak21:29
mwhahahafor the record, i hate requests.Session() usage in openstack21:29
* mwhahaha flips tables21:30
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cloudnull+121:36
* cloudnull throws another table 21:36
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cloudnullnow i go eat ramen, maybe I'll flip a table there :)21:39
cloudnullback later.21:39
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cloudnulltake care all21:39
mwhahaha:o21:39
* fultonj waves21:40
triple-oh-n00bmmmm. ramen21:41
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triple-oh-n00bhmm. My deploy is getting a timeout waiting on x.x.x.92 -- I deleted this server :-/22:15
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mwhahahahow did you delete it22:16
triple-oh-n00bopenstack server delete xyz22:16
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mwhahahaoh you silly person22:16
mwhahahadon't ever do that in tripleo22:16
triple-oh-n00bI do not doubt that.22:16
triple-oh-n00bOh really?22:16
mwhahahayea22:16
triple-oh-n00bDuly noted.22:17
mwhahahaopenstack overcloud node delete22:17
triple-oh-n00booooohhhhhh22:17
mwhahahaand then you have to reduce your <role>Count22:17
mwhahahato properly scale down22:17
triple-oh-n00bYes. it's creaping up!!22:17
triple-oh-n00bcreeping22:17
mwhahahaopenstack server delete will trash the deploy essentially22:17
triple-oh-n00bI see.22:17
mwhahahabecause it breaks the heat/nova integration22:17
triple-oh-n00bdarn. Anything I can do to refresh that list?22:18
mwhahahanope22:18
triple-oh-n00blol22:18
mwhahahaif you had a backup of your undercloud22:18
mwhahahayou could restore22:18
mwhahahaand fix it22:18
triple-oh-n00bNopes.22:18
triple-oh-n00bI mean, i could just trash the whole thing.22:18
triple-oh-n00bWould there have been a way to unassign a server from a node?22:21
mwhahahayou'd have to do the scale down action22:21
mwhahahaso the openstack overcloud node delete take a specific server to remove22:21
triple-oh-n00bWho's to say from a 3x server config which server it would have reduced?22:21
mwhahahaopenstack overcloud node delete <uuid>22:22
triple-oh-n00bThat method usually just says it cannot delete as there's a server associated.22:22
* mwhahaha looks for the docs22:22
mwhahahahttps://docs.openstack.org/tripleo-docs/latest/install/post_deployment/delete_nodes.html22:22
triple-oh-n00b:(  I'm sure I tried this and got a message saying I couldn't because of a server association. But I didn't scale down any of the values in the templates. Maybe this was why.22:25
triple-oh-n00bI shall try it when it's finished it's latest attempt at a deploy.22:25
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: WIP New command "overcloud node extract provisioned"  https://review.opendev.org/67414122:35
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triple-oh-n00bokay. it's still timing out trying to contact that server I deleted.22:42
* triple-oh-n00b readies the shotgun.22:42
triple-oh-n00bIf it's stuck in there, and I cannot see it to delete it... Do I need to rebuild the stack? :-)22:43
triple-oh-n00bWould: "openstack overcloud delete overcloud" suffice?22:45
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openstackgerritAlex Schultz proposed openstack/python-tripleoclient master: Close resources correctly  https://review.opendev.org/67410722:57
mwhahahayea that'll delete all teht hings22:57
triple-oh-n00bIt's ongoing now.22:58
triple-oh-n00bnote to self: backups22:58
triple-oh-n00bHow would one deal with such a faux pas in a production environment? (hypothetical)23:01
triple-oh-n00bOh, that's interesting. The stack is clean, and my nodes are "available".23:05
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mwhahahayou'd be screwed in production w/o a backup23:09
mwhahahalets just say that one is a major no-no23:09
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triple-oh-n00bGlad i'm learning this now and not later.23:29
triple-oh-n00bDoes beg the question: Why would such a thing exist if it's so destructive :)  But I guess it's just part of openstack.23:30
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