16:04:18 <Sam-I-Am> #startmeeting #docinstallteam
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16:04:28 <Sam-I-Am> this might be quick
16:04:44 <sgordon> yeah
16:05:00 <sgordon> i dont see any of the other folks in here
16:05:19 <Sam-I-Am> nope, its pretty empty. hoping moving this later would help, but i suspect people havent noticed the calendar change.
16:05:37 <Sam-I-Am> we'll quickly go through stuff and see what happens
16:06:02 <Sam-I-Am> first, old items
16:06:08 <Sam-I-Am> #topic debian testing
16:06:41 <Sam-I-Am> i attempted to follow the instructions and couldnt even get keystone to work
16:07:03 <Sam-I-Am> there's a bug and etherpad of stuff to fix, but it hasnt received any attention since a few weeks prior to the holidays
16:07:18 <Sam-I-Am> my guess is we're not publishing it again for mitaka
16:07:27 <Sam-I-Am> not enough effort being put in to make it work
16:07:57 <Sam-I-Am> next up, new items
16:08:11 <Sam-I-Am> #topic mitaka milestones available
16:08:30 <Sam-I-Am> some packagers are offering mitaka milestone packages at this point
16:08:44 <Sam-I-Am> if you have some time, try them out using the liberty guide and make a note of changes
16:08:45 <sgordon> yeah
16:08:58 <Sam-I-Am> the earlier we get started, the earlier we finish
16:09:04 <sgordon> https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/mitaka/milestone2/
16:09:19 <Sam-I-Am> #link https://www.rdoproject.org/testday/mitaka/milestone2/
16:09:45 <Sam-I-Am> typically the openstack-specific options we need to fix for one distro work on all distros, so testing any distro is helpful.
16:10:18 <Sam-I-Am> post your findings to the etherpad
16:10:21 <Sam-I-Am> #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/installguide-mitaka
16:10:25 <sgordon> indeed, though i expect there will be some packaging bugs as well
16:10:39 <Sam-I-Am> always those :)
16:10:57 <Sam-I-Am> usually i make a note of them and test them as new releases appear, or file bugs if necessary
16:11:25 <Sam-I-Am> #topic aodh instructions
16:11:47 <Sam-I-Am> looks like they merged, sans suse. we'll need some follow-up patches depending on how packages turn out for all distros.
16:12:07 <Sam-I-Am> #topic manila instructions
16:12:07 <sgordon> the suse bit was submitted as a separate patch which i have marked WIP
16:12:27 <Sam-I-Am> #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-December/008051.html
16:12:53 <Sam-I-Am> there was some fairly active discussion pre-holidays about adding manila to the guide... and somehow that became another service too.
16:13:20 <Sam-I-Am> i havent seen any patches, so i'm guessing that's the end of it
16:13:25 <sgordon> neither
16:13:45 <Sam-I-Am> maybe we'll see stuff closer to the mitaka release
16:13:59 <sgordon> there is also some magnum stuff but it's being developed in their repo
16:14:03 <sgordon> (very slowly i might add)
16:14:21 <Sam-I-Am> yeah, i think that was one of the projects looking to move to the install guide
16:14:48 <Sam-I-Am> #topic openstack client and clouds.yaml
16:15:07 <Sam-I-Am> the openstack client is slowly (very slowly) replacing most of the per-service clients
16:15:21 <Sam-I-Am> there was a patch for glance in the install guide the other day to use it
16:15:25 <Sam-I-Am> nova should work too
16:15:28 <Sam-I-Am> neutron... ehhhhh
16:15:40 <Sam-I-Am> so i dont think we'll get rid of per-service clients entirels for mitaka
16:15:54 <Sam-I-Am> however, during testing, we should try to do everything with the openstack client and see what happens
16:16:12 <Sam-I-Am> also note that distros tend to package older versions of the openstack client, and development is very active on it
16:16:25 <Sam-I-Am> so we'll have to cater to whatever the lowest version is among the distros for mitaka
16:16:39 <Sam-I-Am> the other thing is changing openrc files to clouds.yaml files
16:16:48 <Sam-I-Am> which i think we can only successfully do if the openstackclient works everywhere
16:16:53 <Sam-I-Am> so that might be a N thing
16:17:47 <Sam-I-Am> #topic bugs
16:18:02 <Sam-I-Am> i need to look at the list in the agenda again... its been a while
16:18:07 <Sam-I-Am> but in general we do not have many bugs
16:18:11 <Sam-I-Am> mostly small stuff
16:18:42 <Sam-I-Am> #topic patch reviews
16:18:57 <Sam-I-Am> same thing here... not much in the pipeline except aodh, which we'll address again later
16:19:57 <Sam-I-Am> #topic open discussion
16:20:02 <Sam-I-Am> anything else before we call it?
16:20:59 <sgordon> nopppe
16:21:22 <Sam-I-Am> cool, let's return to 'normal' life
16:22:33 <Sam-I-Am> #endmeeting