14:00:14 <ian-pittwood> #startmeeting airship 14:00:15 <openstack> Meeting started Tue Mar 17 14:00:14 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ian-pittwood. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:16 <openstack> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. 14:00:19 <openstack> The meeting name has been set to 'airship' 14:00:25 <ian-pittwood> Good morning everyone! 14:00:36 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> o/ 14:00:44 <ian-pittwood> Here's the agenda for today https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2020-03-17 14:00:50 <ian-pittwood> #topic rollcall 14:01:10 <airship-irc-bot> <james.gu> O/ 14:01:13 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> ian-pittwood: Just a heads up, the design call is ongoing. 14:01:14 <michael-beaver> o/ 14:01:16 <ian-pittwood> There's nothing there yet so I'll give everyone a few minutes to fill in and contribute topics 14:01:31 <ian-pittwood> dwalt how much longer do you think it will go? 14:01:44 <howell> o/ 14:01:57 <roman_g> o/ 14:02:23 <nasirkamal> o/ 14:02:30 <howell> meeting's going pretty strong right now, it may be a few minutes 14:02:36 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> I'm not sure. At least a few mins probably 14:03:54 <ian-pittwood> No problem. I'd like everyone to be able to give their full attention to one thing so let's wait another 5 minutes or so to see if it finishes up 14:04:31 <ian-pittwood> Again for anyone just joining us, here's the agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/airship-meeting-2020-03-17 14:08:49 <ian-pittwood> did the design call finish up? 14:08:55 <howell> we're done :) 14:09:00 <roman_g> ian-pittwood: just finished a minute ago 14:09:09 <ian-pittwood> Great! 14:09:40 <ian-pittwood> Ok well let's get into it 14:09:53 <ian-pittwood> No announcements today so onto our first topic 14:09:57 <ian-pittwood> #topic Airship SEO improvements 14:10:09 <ian-pittwood> I believe this is roman_g? 14:11:12 <roman_g> Yep. 14:11:22 <roman_g> If no one volunteers, I could reply. 14:11:28 <ian-pittwood> #link http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2020-March/000897.html 14:11:28 <roman_g> Thoughts? Comments? 14:12:06 <ian-pittwood> Should this be tackled by the WC or TC perhaps? 14:12:30 <ashferg> just so everyone is up to date-- we've contracted a professional SEO firm to help improve search placement for all OSF projects, so if you all have any specific keywords you’d like to make sure are on the radar, you can respond to Jimmy’s email on the discuss ML 14:12:34 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> roman_g: Thanks for volunteering. I'm also fine with the WC taking this over. Maybe we could do a quick etherpad to gather topics? 14:13:13 <ian-pittwood> Right now dwalt? 14:13:41 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> I just meant over the course of a few days. Just a suggestion 14:13:51 <openstackgerrit> Dmitry Ukov proposed airship/airshipctl master: Ensure node power state ON/OFF for Reset command https://review.opendev.org/713201 14:14:10 <ian-pittwood> Sure that sounds like a good plan. roman_g could you make an etherpad and fill it with your ideas and then post it in here? 14:14:11 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> It might be that we don't have too many keywords anyway and an etherpad is overkill 14:14:30 <roman_g> ian-pittwood: sure 14:14:41 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> thanks roman_g 14:14:48 <ian-pittwood> Thanks roman_g 14:15:02 <ian-pittwood> #topic OpenDev + PTG discussion ideas needed 14:15:13 <ian-pittwood> #link http://lists.airshipit.org/pipermail/airship-discuss/2020-March/000892.html 14:15:19 <ian-pittwood> this is also roman_g 14:15:58 <roman_g> Mine, yes. 14:16:43 <roman_g> Simpli sait, if you (we) have anything we would want to add for discussions on OpenDev summit, we are requested to add it to the etherpad or via reply to the email. 14:16:49 <roman_g> Ooohhh. 14:16:54 <roman_g> Simply said 14:17:14 <openstackgerrit> Merged airship/airshipctl master: Fix a failure when running unit tests locally https://review.opendev.org/713011 14:17:32 <roman_g> If we have speakers, we are encouraged to volunteer as well. 14:17:36 <ian-pittwood> Gotcha. So is this more of an announcement for those that would like to participate I suppose? 14:17:44 <ian-pittwood> Or do we need to organize something? 14:18:00 <roman_g> Yes, this is announcement mostly. 14:18:32 <roman_g> I'm in committee there, will promote you/your topics ;) 14:18:55 <ian-pittwood> Ok. Anyone that would like to volunteer, please see the link posted above! 14:19:21 <roman_g> We’re looking for discussion topics and Moderators for the following OpenDev Tracks: 14:19:24 <roman_g> - Hardware Automation 14:19:27 <roman_g> - Large-scale Usage of Open Source Infrastructure Software 14:19:29 <roman_g> - Containers in Production 14:19:32 <roman_g> - Key Challenges for Open Source in 2020 14:19:32 <roman_g> >> Moderators need to be available to attend OpenDev, June 8 - 10, 2020. 14:19:47 <roman_g> Volunteer to be a moderator or suggest discussion topics here before March 20: https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/opendev_vancouver2020_volunteer 14:20:11 <roman_g> I've informed Matt already. 14:20:31 <roman_g> If you know someone else who should know - point her/him to the email in ML. 14:20:43 <roman_g> I'm done, thanks. 14:20:53 <ian-pittwood> Awesome, thanks roman_g 14:21:02 <pramchan> Can we assume volunteers with travel restrictions can partcipate in organizing remotely and dtill be volunteers? 14:21:12 <pramchan> still 14:21:29 <ashferg> yes, we're working on all of that 14:21:42 <uzumaki> I'd like to volunteer for one of these 14:21:52 <roman_g> pramchan: it's in June. God knows what would be happening this summer. 14:22:31 <pramchan> Anyway I will volunteer for one 14:22:48 <roman_g> Summit could move to be fully virtual (though not running on OpenStack). 14:22:57 <uzumaki> lol roman_g 14:23:13 <ian-pittwood> Sounds like if you'd like to volunteer go to this link: 14:23:15 <ian-pittwood> #link https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/opendev_vancouver2020_volunteer 14:23:35 <uzumaki> yeah, I'm looking at it. Will send an entry in my name. Thanks! ian-pittwood 14:23:49 <ian-pittwood> Or reach out to roman_g for additional questions since he seems to have the inside track :) 14:23:59 <ian-pittwood> Alright next topic 14:24:06 <ian-pittwood> #topic Airship user survey 14:24:12 <ian-pittwood> howell it's all you 14:24:22 <ashferg> that's mine :) 14:24:27 <ashferg> similar color, oops 14:24:29 <ian-pittwood> oh sorry! 14:24:36 <howell> lol 14:24:37 <ian-pittwood> ashferg it's all you then! 14:24:41 <ashferg> no worries! 14:24:45 <uzumaki> inside track? like a roman_g's some kind of a james bond? 14:25:00 <ashferg> so, wondering if you all are interested in the creation an airship user survey. You might be familiar already with the OpenStack user survey, which helps us better understand the needs of users and collect feedback from them to pass back to the community 14:25:03 <ian-pittwood> uzumaki shhhhh don't blow his cover 14:25:37 <openstackgerrit> Jagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/maas master: Enable Docker default AppArmor profile to maas https://review.opendev.org/705136 14:25:47 <ian-pittwood> How is the survey distributed? 14:26:09 <roman_g> User survey is probably something WC would have a word on. 14:26:37 <ashferg> via email. yes, agree to bring it up in WC as well. just wanted to get a temp on it here 14:26:42 <uzumaki> sounds good to me 14:26:50 <roman_g> Distribution is via email to registered openstack foundation members, I guess 14:26:54 <ashferg> it'll also be on the website so it's easily discoverable 14:27:09 <ian-pittwood> Is everyone in agreement on the survey? Any opposition or suggestions for contents? 14:27:15 <ashferg> we actually distribute the openstack one to any users we have a contact for 14:27:30 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> I'll add it to our next agenda. Thanks for the topic ashferg 14:27:37 <ashferg> great, thanks! 14:28:03 <uzumaki> ian-pittwood, challenges in airship usage, I believe is the most important, remember the feedback from deutche telecom? 14:28:22 <roman_g> ian-pittwood: there probably wouldn't be many real users, mosthy those who are interested in Airship. We know more or less all of those who tried to install & use Airship :) 14:29:01 <ashferg> yeah, it would be more for the benefit of having it created already so we can use it going forward 14:29:04 <uzumaki> ian-pittwood, challenges in understanding what airship is all about, perhaps we could have documentation improvements/ideas from the community 14:29:19 <ian-pittwood> Gauging interested users is probably important too. It will help let us know what we need to do to encourage users to utilize airship 14:29:29 <openstackgerrit> Blake Dittmer proposed airship/pegleg master: cleaned up deploy-k8s file https://review.opendev.org/713456 14:29:32 <ashferg> yeah, exactly! 14:29:36 <ian-pittwood> #idea documentation feedback 14:29:47 <ian-pittwood> #idea airship usage 14:30:06 <uzumaki> ian-pittwood, specifying the use case they use airship in, or would be interested to see airship in 14:30:22 <uzumaki> this somewhat ties in with our discussion last week, on airship use cases 14:30:24 <ian-pittwood> #idea user specific use cases 14:30:57 <ian-pittwood> Those are all good ideas. Thanks uzumaki 14:31:08 <ashferg> yes, thanks you! 14:31:09 <uzumaki> you're welcome 14:31:34 <ian-pittwood> Any other quick ideas to take down? We can have a more in depth discussion in the WC meeting next week too 14:32:22 <ian-pittwood> Seeing none... Let's move on to the next topic 14:32:27 <ian-pittwood> #topic Marketing brainstorm 14:32:38 <ian-pittwood> I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is also ashferg? 14:32:47 <ashferg> sure is! 14:32:53 <ian-pittwood> nice, take it away! 14:32:57 <openstackgerrit> Jagan Mohan Kavva proposed airship/maas master: Enable Docker default AppArmor profile to maas https://review.opendev.org/705136 14:33:30 <ashferg> this is a better focus for the WC meeting as well, but another one of our projects did this and it was really helpful. they created a list of what they needed most from a marketing standpoint, like “ways to encourage dev contribution” etc., which might be something that will benefit airship as well 14:33:57 <ashferg> so just wanted to put this on y'all's radar as something that might be good to discuss on the wc call next week 14:34:46 <ashferg> so you can think of some ideas ahead of time. things like gaps in content that might be helpful to fill, where the OSF marketing team can help with promotion, etc 14:35:24 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> That sounds like a good idea. I'll add that to the WC agenda as well! 14:35:33 <ian-pittwood> Thanks, dwalt! 14:35:37 <ashferg> thanks! 14:35:39 <pramchan> Do we have marketing collateral slides or WC/TC sugests any to use 14:35:55 <ian-pittwood> Does anyone have any ideas they'd like to take down to discuss in the WC? 14:36:24 <pramchan> Thanks ian-pittwood 14:36:29 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> pramchan: You mean presentation/slide branding? 14:36:47 <uzumaki> I'd like to come to the next WC meeting, can anybody join? 14:36:53 <ashferg> pramchan: we have some slides we've used in presentations as part of larger decks, but I'm sure a lot of other content from Summits, other events are out there 14:37:00 <pramchan> yes as as some SPs in APJ asked for this 14:37:27 <ian-pittwood> Yes, we have a community section of each meeting, but you are more than welcome to sit in on the rest of the call as well 14:37:50 <uzumaki> that's great! thanks ian-pittwood 14:38:29 <ian-pittwood> I suppose it's worth throwing out the WC meeting page link 14:38:31 <ian-pittwood> #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Airship/Airship-WC 14:38:42 <ian-pittwood> for anyone that's interested in joining us on Monday 14:39:22 <ian-pittwood> Alright seems like we can move on. Please take any additional ideas to the WC for discussion there! 14:39:33 <ian-pittwood> #topic roundtable 14:39:45 <uzumaki> thanks ian-pittwood , will be there 14:39:49 <ian-pittwood> Any additional discussion that outside of our agenda? 14:40:33 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> I'll wait until the meeting is over, but roman_g, if you have a few mins, I'd appreciate your help on a couple of our Zuul jobs 14:41:07 <pramchan> Modnay noon 23rd WC yes will try attend -Thanks 14:41:11 <roman_g> dwalt, sure, I wold be staying here online 14:41:18 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> thanks roman_g 14:41:18 <roman_g> *would 14:41:48 <ian-pittwood> Anything else for roundtable? 14:42:13 <uzumaki> nothing from me 14:42:41 <ian-pittwood> I'll go ahead and post our review requests then 14:42:46 <ian-pittwood> #topic Requests for review 14:43:17 <ian-pittwood> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zVFakfLU/ 14:43:27 <ian-pittwood> Uggh... One sec 14:43:39 <ian-pittwood> Enable container resource limits (all Airship components) https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:resourceLimits+(status:open+OR+status:merged) 14:43:47 <ian-pittwood> Deckhand: Re-enable all CI gates: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711263/ 14:43:53 <ian-pittwood> Minor Governance changes: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711263/ https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712499/ 14:44:00 <ian-pittwood> Airship/images, python/docker libraries, attempt to fix image publishing: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712505/ 14:44:06 <ian-pittwood> Container logs collection https://github.com/airshipit/airshipctl/issues/89 14:44:13 <ian-pittwood> That should be everything 14:44:29 <ian-pittwood> One important note from roman_g though 14:44:55 <roman_g> The last one - >> first << contribution from vamsisavaram - Container logs collection https://github.com/airshipit/airshipctl/issues/89 14:45:20 <ian-pittwood> Please take time to make code reviews. Even if you are not a core reviewer, your opinions still matter. When we all contribute to code reviews, we get better code 14:45:58 <howell> +1 to that 14:46:03 <roman_g> +100 14:46:06 <ian-pittwood> It's not a bad idea to make some sort of guideline for yourself. Perhaps for every PS submission do 3 code reviews? 14:46:26 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> yep, make it a habit :slightly_smiling_face: 14:46:28 <ian-pittwood> Or maybe review code over your morning coffee? 14:46:46 <howell> and your lunch coffee, and your afternoon coffee :p 14:46:56 <ian-pittwood> Exactly, if we make it a habit then we can get things moving much faster! 14:47:05 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> you can never have too much coffee 14:47:07 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> or code review 14:47:10 <vamsisavaram> Hi all, just want to say hi. It would be nice if someone reviews my commit: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/712555/. Its my first commit, and I would appreciate comments on it. :) 14:47:26 <roman_g> :thumbs_up: 14:47:39 <airship-irc-bot> <dwalt> congrats vamsisavaram, will do :slightly_smiling_face: 14:47:40 <ian-pittwood> You got it! 14:47:54 <ian-pittwood> Ok well I think that's all we have 14:48:08 <ian-pittwood> Thanks for coming everyone! 14:48:15 <ian-pittwood> #endmeeting